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Hey 24roids, longtime no see. I got shoulder surgery about 4 months ago and kinda started lifting, still have some gains i got when at most I used was orals, anavar, winstrol, clen, and barely any sarms. I’m pretty demotivated since my right arm isn’t back at it and i lost some gains, I also did some other things like drinking and some other goodies. I’m thinking about starting to lift again and would like to try a cycle, i’m thinking about the usual test enanthate 300-500 mg a week, and maybe arimidex if side effects. Also hcg and the regular pct at the end. Probably going to go at it for 10 weeks. Let me know what you all think and what test and such you suggest on the site.
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Will1
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I think thats a very good way to start back up. Get another month or two in the gym training without anything and then toss the test in and I think that should jump start you back to getting back to your old self. Muscle memory is very real, so you shouldn`t have a hard time building back up. Your biggest challenge will be taking it slow and protecting that shoulder while the test is giving you added strength. Last thing you`d want is to re-injure the shoulder, so just try and take it slow for your shoulder and chest exercises. But I think it`s a good plan and best of luck man!

Jazz55
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Welcome back brother! There`s a great deal on test E from Ultima this week. I would jump on some of that asap before there is a new POTW. Also, to get back some of your gains I would suggest some Deca. This will also help with any joint pain from getting back in the gym after so long. Test E 500mg per week and run the Deca at 300mg per week. Take it slow and easy the first couple weeks back at it brother. Hope this helps Continue reading Beginners Bulk Cycle

Hey all. This will be my first cycle and I was hoping for some advice on what products would be best/safest for a beginner. I`m 32, 250lbs and looking to get back in the gym. I was thinking about purchasing the basic mass starters stack….?Anything need to be added with this stack or is it good to go as is? Once again I`m a first timer and any advice/help is appreciated.
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Branko

I recommend staying away from all stacks first cycle. Just a long ester testosterone is all you should do, like test-e or test-c. You first and foremost need to get everything you can naturally with diet and training. I had awesome results with carnivore diet and 5×5 strength training program. Do that and lose at least 20lbs first, or you`ll bloat more and be susceptible to more sides. Then get test only and your PCT of nolvadex and Clomid. Do a bit more research my brother. It`s a marathon, not a sprint, and no amount of steroids will give you the body you want without proper diet and training FIRST. Good luck!

traianos123

Most of the guys will say u to do only test as first cycle, but i see that this stack is very good for a newbie, only one thing i want u to change, the Anastrozole dont use it as they say at “Cycle Layout”, u will kill the estrogen level in your body if u use this every day, u need to take Anastrozole EOD (every other day), or better twice per week. U will need to buy separate your PCT, for this Nolvadex will be good, u start 2 weeks after last pin, 40/40/20/20, if u want to have a more efficient PCT, u can pin a few times HCG before the PCT. Continue reading Basic Starters Mass Stack

I saw the thread about the ai dosing being way too high for this. How are the other doses of this pct?
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Onyx

Most people will recover successfully with 100mg of clomid and 40 mg of tamoxifen during the first two weeks than 50 mg of clomid and 20 mg of tamoxifen for two more weeks. Of course there are different protocols. Do your own research and decide which protocol is the best for you.

MattBeard

Standard PCT is clomid 100,100,50,50 and nolva 40,40,20,20 so you will have plenty to spare and the HCG seems to be run in many different ways but the protocol they give looks ok except you would probably want to start it 1 week before last pin so stop it as you start the clomid, nolva pct, assuming its test e or c at least. As for the AI, its way to high and most would only use it sparingly during cycle if required.

Dr. Scott

it definitely is too high. Onyx is correct that`s a standard protocol (some use HCG too) Not sure why they put an Ai in a PCT stack, especially one already containing nolvadex. During PCT, it is kind of a roller coaster hormonally so nolvadex is often included in pct, it also helps raise endogenous testosterone to a small degree and protects nicely from estrogen rebound. Anyhow, I think the addition of an AI to this PCT stack is overkill especially at the doses they talk about (5 weeks at 1mg day!). But if you like the product get it and just save the arimidex (anastrozole), for use during the cycle and not PCT. BUt either way you are correct the dosing is high, Most guys do pretty well on 0.5mg every 3rd day and move up as needed. hope this helps Continue reading Basic PCT Stack