I I am a 36 year old male in good overall health. My ? is can i start on this or is this to much for a newbie to steroids
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Bonh
It is better always to stay away, as long as you can
Swoleville
For beginners who have never cycled it`s best to do a test only cycle to see how the body responds. Test c or test e at 300 mg per week is a good starting point
Lord
I would stick to testosterone for yourself first few times
Ryan
Stick to a test only cycle to capitizle on it being new to your body, and to learn about how test and other compounds affect you before you throw them all in together
Gman
Once you start it`s pretty much a life commitment you normal testosterone level will never recover ever!! So either you stay on a trt dose for ever or suffer from low t the rest of your life.. bit if your committed to bodybuilding the rest of your life that s what you want to do then go for it get blood work often make sure your healthy and cycle non and off if you just want to try it and but not really interested in long term its not worth it
Will
If this is your first ever cycle, just run Test E or C at 300mg. That`s the first cycle everyone should use to see how your body reacts to testosterone. Being older and starting doesn`t mean you`d start on a different cycle. Always approach AAS as less is more. Because it is in the long run. The more you use earlier, the less results and tools you`ll have for later.
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When should the tamoxifen be used An should it be used with anything else
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Jaris
You should take it after cycle, maybe combine it with clomid. It depends on your cycle. Dont recommend running it on cycle, because it is not ai.
LongIslandBEAST
Best is to use it post cycle along with Clomid. Also add HCG to your cycle. 200iu every four days works for me. You may want to grab a true anti estrogen like arimidex for if you have any estrogen related side effects during your cycle. If you do I found 0. 5mg every other day to be sufficient but you may want to change this to every day until symptoms of side effects subside. 1mg is not typically more effective than 0. 5mg so most people find this dosage to be fine.
Greg Landes
Use as PCT after your cycle is completed. It is tamoxifen is also known as Nolvadex, and both are sometimes combined during pct to help restore the body’s natural production of testosterone and gel body reach homeostasis.
RJB
As stated above run with clomid, and you can run Hcg. Arimidex at 1mg is also good as LIB suggested.
evan johnson
Run 10 days after your last injection alongside clomid and or HCG.
J.P.
With this stack Tamoxifen is being utilized as an aromatase inhibitor. They`re recommending to use it as needed upon experiencing estrogen related side effects. I know this has been done by some guys over the years, but bottom line if you need an AI, get a true AI. My advice would be to save the Tamoxifen for post cycle therapy. Note that this stack is not utilizing Tamoxifen as PCT, so you will need to buy more to have enough for a full PCT. In the meantime, pick up some Arimidex for estrogen control during your cycle and Aromasin for the end of cycle, making sure you have enough to last throughout PCT and beyond. Aromasin is really the main drug here as it will be the one to save you when you`re having trouble balancing estrogen on cycle and works way better for PCT given it`s suicidal properties. Also once PCT is complete, it`s helpful to have something like Aromasin on hand just in case. Often times post PCT Aromasin use is taken in a very small dose as needed, but is well worth it and will keep you looking and feeling better through the whole process
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The Question was for organ support mostly I understand supplementation.
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ltl trucker
if one dances on the “dark side. ” I take these 5 supps everyday, especially when taking any PH or androgen. Ubiquinol is the reduced form of CoQ10 which is a very important antioxidant that is synthesized in every cell. Plant sterols and non-flush niacin have both been shown to help increase HDL and control overall cholesterol(all orals and some androgens like stanozolol kill your HDL). Low HDL is associated with high risk of heart disease. N-acetyl cysteine is a precursor to the body`s master antioxidant glutathione(GSH), which is often depleted from the liver when taking oral PH or androgens. Vitamin K2 has also been shown to help significantly decrease risks of cardiovascular disease and heart attacks. All of these compounds are often overlooked when people decide to take PH or androgens. If you are going to take powerful drugs that can have severe cardiovascular effects, please do everything you can to protect your heart and minimize the negative effects as much as possible.
Tren Man
Choline and inositol with L-Methionine all have shown great results for liver health post cycle. Vitamin K2 has been shown to make arteries more flexible by %40. Vitamin B3 at high dosages reduces bad cholesterol.
LegacyLifter
Listen to these guys above me.
J.P.
Honestly man, when getting into a bigger stack like this, I`ll have my people take an all in one cycle support just to keep them from swallowing 500 pills a day. If you look around you`ll find something that`ll meet your needs while being cost effective. Another thing I have them do is start taking the support supplements prior to beginning the cycle. The amount of time varies, but if you`re ready for a stack like this, I`m guessing you already know the answer to your question, or at least how to research for it
mchilds
I agree with JP. Find an all in one. I think Piana sold one and some others are out there. Realistically drinking a ton of water and occasional grape/cranberry juice is important. You need to keep things flushing through your system. Think kidneys, liver and heart. Saw palmetto, milk thistle are 2 important ones.
Micheal Ervin
Organ support and supplementation are kind of hand in hand, your filing a spot that your body is lacking or hurting just like if you were anemic you need iron pills which is a form of supplementation, but Tudca, CoQ10, magnesium, saw palmetto, and fish oils are the best supports as far as heart, liver, kidneys.
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BEST PCT FOR THIS CYCLE NEED ADVICE AN SHOULD I RUN ANY ADDED SUPPLEMENTS OTHER THAN MILK THISTLE/SAW PALMETTO AN MAGNESIUM ? Should I stay on test Cyp after this to keep gains there or cycle off right after?
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Jaris Kapcevičius
Arimidex on cycle, pct clomid and nolvadex, 100mg clomid, 40mg nolvadex for 2 weeks, and 50mg 20mg for the rest
Anonymous
No, you should completely come off test to get your natural test production back. Any exogenous test will stop your natural test production.
Will
Not to sound mean but those are just supplements that will not help. They are not the OTC PCT needed to restore your natural levels. Clomid and nova are the 2 best. You can always give HCG a go however I`ve been fine with the others. It`s best to have all 3 on hand in case you need them.
smithpress
Adex EOD, nolva at the end, OR you could just cruise on test 250 a week
SocalJuicer
You only need to run the liver support supplements that you mentioned in the first six weeks when you are taking oral steroids. Everything else is injectable and does not meaningfully tax your liver. Do NOT stay on test cyp after the cycle, this will continue to completely supress your natural testosterone production and can cause problems beyond 12-14 weeks. For PCT, purchase some Nolvadex (tamoxifen) and run it at 40mg every day for weeks 1-2, 20mg per day for weeks 3-4. Honestly, it sounds like you have not done adequate research on the drugs you are taking into your body, I would strongly suggest this as you can have serious side effects (From man tits to infertility).
Micheal Ervin
Drop the milk thistle and run Tudca instead it actually does more for the liver, as far as the other supplements those are good with a complete multi v and fish oils. For on cycle you should be running hcg the entire time to keep a functioning HTPA if you ever plan on coming off, for pct a good regimen of nolva 2 weeks after the last injection for 5 weeks at 40/40/20/20/20 should be sufficient. As far as staying on test cyp unless your planning on going the trt route permanently at some point you’ll have to come off which will cause some loss of gains but it would be better to do it earlier than later because theoretically your body’s androgen receptors start to get insensitive after a 16 week blast anyways so going high doses past that point starts bringing diminishing returns