Hey guys, anyone tell me how long this stays good for once reconstituted?, trying to figure out how much time I can squeeze out of this kit. Also how much is 1 IU on a slin pin is it the same as the generic hgh? I`ve seen guys use this with slin pins instead of the pen just wondering if the dilution is the same. I`m looking to use 2-3 IU a day for better sleep and joint health and some fat loss would be nice too. Thanks in advance for any help..
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Should be about a month as long as store correctly
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Wish I could be of more assistance but that I`ve never used that but that`s what I`ve heard in the past
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
It is not how long it stays reconstituted once you reconstituted the hormones become alive thus they will die after about 30 days they are living organisms so you will want to use them little guys quickly do not reconstituted unless you plan on using the whole vial within a month or so keep it refrigerated
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Cyclone User profile Expert
The standard answer is 30 days, but there`s no reason to reconstitute more than one vial at a time.
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Onyx User profile Expert
If kept refrigerated you can use it for a month. Good luck!
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How many ML`s is the bac water solution?
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Hello Jason, the total is 30 ML and thats the standard anymore. If naps doesn`t have it, try westendmedicalsupply . Com. There is also medicalandlabsupplies . Com for syringes if you need them.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
He`s asking how much water is in the vial provided in this “kit”, not how much or where to buy BAC water. Jason, just follow the directions with this product – they take all the guess work out of it for you. This is one of the (very few) benefits to paying for the “name brand” HGH, its basically dummy proof. Having said that, check out the generic color tops. Widely understood to be great quality and potency for literally pennies on the dollar.
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JasonDraksler User profile
72 IU`s is not referring to how many IU`s the solution contains?
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Just follow the directions
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JasonDraksler User profile
How do you get the directions without purchasing it?
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JohnSmith User profile
It will normally come with a small vial of 1-2ml of water to mix with the gh raw, and is to be placed into the pen cart. Then click to your desired dose and pin.
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First time using this Lilly 72 IU kit. I`m trouble doing the math for what is 1 IU using the insulin needles. Right now I have the half .5 ml needles that measures up to 50 IU how much do I draw out for IU What number would it be on the .5 ml needle. Is it easier to measure using a 1 ml insulin needle instead. Please help thank you
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
I personally would have chosen a different GH product as it`s expensive. I`ve never purchased that specific kit, but it should come with a vial of powder, a vial of water and a syringe OR water already in the syringe. Just get some separate slin pins, get some back water and mix it yourself with the new components. Start off on 1IU/day for about a week and see how your hands feel. Slowly increase over time (avoiding bad sides) until you`re at about 3IU`s a day and take it from there. That`s a good anti-aging dose. Good luck.
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EQhead User profile Expert
If you add 10ml bacteriostatic water to 72iu of powder then every ml will hold 7.2iu. Every 1/2ml will hold 3.6iu of hgh. Every 1/4ml, 1.8iu. I`m not saying add 10ml bacteriostatic water to this, but that is an example of how to do the math. I don`t know how this HGH is sold…..is there a vial of water to mix with a powder? This is usually the case. This HGH is very expensive although it is pharmaceutical grade, but i don`t personally know if that`s any better than the color tops. I can vouch that the blue, brown and grey tops are of great quality and they`re affordable. Enjoy your weekend. Cheers!
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Lilly is Humatrope, why does the listing say somatropin for the pharmaceutical name?
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Somatotropin is Growth Hormone. Humatropin is just their registered trade mark name for their product.
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Joeskee User profile
It`s just another name the call growth hormone. Every company has a different name they use. But it`s all the same shit different name
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
It`s the chemical name, but the company or manufacturer is Lily. Like testosterone is the chemical name but the company can be Ciba, or Bayer-Schering.
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JohnSmith User profile
Somatropin is the chemical name for 191aa. It is the hormone defined as medical gh. All brands and manufacturers will list the products chemical as somatropin.
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Received this in the mail today and when mixed together it has several bubbles and it is white at the top. Will this get better with sitting? Should I discard this?
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Drol1 User profile
You can`t shake hgh. U have to slowly add the bac water and let it sit. Its a delicate substance.
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Barry Gibson User profile
You need to be very gentle with hgh because shaking it can break up it`s molecular chain. You may have handled it rough as per the bubbles other than that I`m not sure why you`d see bubbles. I suggest of you see them in your next vial after gentle mixing to contact napsgear.
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Thanks for the info on my last question. I have another one. I just opened the kit up and there is no pen to actually give the injection. I should of read more thouroughly I`m the description. What now? How else can the injection take place?
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BigOlRed User profile
23 g 1 in you`re probably going to have to go and get those other than that
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Ike User profile Expert
Diabetes websites sell these pen needles to use with your pharma grade hgh. I can`t suggest a site because naps policies but Google insulin pen needle and plenty off sites will show up that ship domestically.
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Dan User profile Expert
It`s a cartridge so just get a pen. But if you are in a hurry get insulin needles and syringes at a pharmacy store.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
you may have received refills for a particular pen, but insulin syringes are all that you need to successfully inject.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Just regular insulin pins will work fine. No need to stress it. Google them or find your local store that sells them
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S-C-J User profile
As other have mentioned, just use insulin syringes.
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I received the package and from what I can tell there is one syringe of water and one syringe of powder. So is it all supposed to be mixed at once? I don`t see any other way. Also how long will this humatope water allow it to stay good? I was hoping to use 2 i I`d per day and get about 5 weeks out of it. Will it still be active and good to use if it`s premixed all at once?
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Just follow the instructions provided with the product, this is one of the very few benefits of a pharma grade product. If kept refrigerated it will definitely keep, but why would you use growth for only 5 weeks?
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junior User profile
after reconstituting, just store the cartridge in the fridge and you will be good to go, it will maintain potency for this period of time. HGH must be taken for 6 months min to see legit results though.
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Big Dogg User profile
It`s good for a month reconstituted in the fridge. At 5 weeks the last bit may degrade 1% or something. Nothing to worry about. At 2iu fat loss will be mi final and you will just start to see anti aging effects at 5 weeks then you`ll be out. I hope you have a fee of those.
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Big Jake User profile
Keep it in the fridge and it will be fine mixed for 5 weeks. Seems very expensive for just a few iu`s. best results with hgh take 6 months or more even.
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mixc User profile
Do what the others said bro recon, it and then refrigerate, good luck man take care
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BigOlRed User profile
As long as you keep a refrigerated yes it will be fine for five weeks even up to 12 weeks and only loses a little bit of potency
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Hey Guys,are there any deals on this for example buy 5 kits get 1 free?Sincerely looking forward towards your answer,Frank
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JB205 User profile Expert
They have a New years sale right now . Buy 10 blue tops get 3 free or buy 15 get 5 free.
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B Rad User profile Expert
Sorry Francis it looks like there aren`t any bulk deals available on this one.
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Reno User profile
Sorry but none on this particular item unless you count the 10 percent off for using bitcoin. But that blue tops sale is pretty dang good.
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Greenleanmass User profile
They have a great sale for blue tops. Buy 10 get 3 free and buy 15 get 5 free hope this helps tou out god bless stay safe.
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Barry Gibson User profile
Isn`t there a new years sale on blue tops?? I`d check it out in case.
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omeed haji User profile
It`s look like no discount on this one but there are another brand there is discount on it but still is good price for 72iu .good luck
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What is 1 IU on the syringe
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Mix solution and powder slowly. Draw out to 10 mark on 1ml insulin syringe. The syringe will be marked 10, 20, 30, 40……to 100. Every 10 equals an iu if reconstituted properly.
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nickname_704 User profile
assuming your asking because its mixed with 3.15 ml of water Divide 72 by 3.15 That tells you how many iu`s per 1ml. Then figure it out from there. .22 on a 1ml insulin syringe will give you pretty much 5iu if my math is right. so 4 tiny lines or IU of insulin on the insulin syringe is a little less than 1Iu. to be exact 1Iu is 4.4 on the syringe
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Skuchie User profile
Depends on the syringe, but normally on an insulin syringe it has 100 units, so 10 on that syringe is 1 IU.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
You don`t want to spray the powder harshly with the solution and remember the powder may pull in the solution due to vacuum. A standard insulin syringe is 1cc/1mL/100 marks. If you draw to the 10 mark (1/10th of full 1mL) then you will have 1iu. But please triple check this on your own when you do the the reconstitution because this all depends on the actual amounts you use.
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nickname_537 User profile
10 units equals 1 iu on my syringe, however it depends on the concentration upon reconstitution so read the literature good or contact naps.
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Gino User profile
The little 1 line in the insulin syringe is 1iu. 10iu`s would fill an insulin pin that is 1ml or 10 units
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Hi there. Friends I am running a great cycle of Test prop, anavar and Ment from Aaster labs and I am loving it but I was thinking of adding some hgh to this stack for better skin quaity, better regeneration and general positive rejuvenating effects as due to my work I sleep no more than 4-5h a day. There is a lot of ug HGH on Naps too. So my question is. Is it really worth to shell out some more on this Humatrope or I will be good choosing some of the balck or blue tops? Please advise.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Yes , I have had plenty of positive feedback from the brown tops..but everything should be good to go…..consider working on sleep though man…literally everything you want to gain from adding GH into the mix can already be achieved naturally with proper rest….supplements SUPPLEMENT what you are trying to achieve, don`t rely on this stuff entirely. Good luck
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Will User profile Expert
Based on my experience with taking the generics and using the grey tops for the last 6 months, the generics are perfectly fine and do yield good results as to be expected. Whata here is not underground labs HGH. The colored tops are just known as generics but made from quality labs if they made it onto Naps.
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Mr.smith User profile
Everything on naps is good, since you are already on cycle and you are just adding I would get the generic. That way if it sucks you are still getting the effects of everything else and your overall plans for the most part stay the same.
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Bearcan1 User profile
Generics will do the job just fine, Grey or Brown tops will both be adequate for your needs. Obviously Pharm grade is a step up but not worth the extreme price difference in my opinion.
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RJB16 User profile
I have personally used the NAPS grey tops and loved it. Took the advise of all the experts and got enough to run 6 mnth ramping up from 2 IU`s to 3.5 IU`s ED and wow what a great addition to my stack so so good. I would suggest the colored tops all day long…. good luck
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
I agree with everyone but did want to mention something quickly Dan about your last question and high blood pressure. This is common and dangerous with people running gear. nothing will lower you bp if it is PED induced like a diuretic like HCTZ/triamterene or lasix. Heres why the same mechanism that causes bloat also causes your blood vessels to bloat, essentially causing the lumen or hole that the blood flows through to become smaller and incr pressure. Your vessels are becoming waterlogged essentially. An AI will help and like long i beast said beta blockers or ACE inh help too. but for me nothing works like a short course of diuretic 1-2 months at low doses. I am not talking about using diuretics the way that competitive bodybuilders do to make the skin paper thin, that is a whole different kettle of fish. Show up at your doc with mild elevated blood pressure and tell him diuretics have helped in the past, no real explanation needed. Also stay away from potassium sparing diuretics like spironolactone (aldactone) as these are one of the few other drugs besdies PEDs that cause gyno. hope this helps brother .
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Hi How many weeks do you get outta the humatrope 72 Iu if you do .2 Iu a day w/ 5 days on n 2 days off.??? I thought you shld get 7 weeks?? I only got about 4 weeks
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Well 72 divided by 2 is 36 so 36 days. That’s five weeks. Seven weeks at 2iu a day would necessitate 98iu.
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YD1 User profile
Hey bud. Above said it right. 36 days. Good choice especially starting out on that dose. Not many listen and start high. Juat have patience and you will see results. Good luck bud.
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N88 User profile
Yes 5 days on and 2 days off would be 7 weeks….10 UIs a week total = 7.2 weeks if you take 2 UIs a day.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
You are right, if you are taking two days off you should be able to get 7 weeks. If you are doing everything right It all comes down to the accuracy of the pen
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Will User profile Expert
Sounds like you may have been dosing inconsistently or the one`s measurements are off? You will get 36 days on of 2iu`s if measured correctly. Its rare youd want to stick at that low of a dose and yould likely want to raise from month to month though. You may need more Pena`s for future runs.
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John User profile
2 iu’s a day at 36 days equals 72. If you do 5 data a week, that’s 7 weeks and one day’s worth. Stick to generic. It’s more cost efficient
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I`ve just received this product. I know that the cartridge containing somatropin must be kept at low temperatures, but I am not sure about the diluent syringe that it comes with. Does the diluent-only cartridge also need to be refrigerated, even though I won`t be mixing the two just yet?
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Md Phd User profile
By adding the cold bacteriostatic water you will maintain a product and this is standard protocol. Most bacteriostatic water for Injection is sterile, non-pyrogenic water that contains 0.9% benzyl alcohol (9mg/mL) added as a bacteriostatic preservative. Keep asking questions.
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n0name_591 User profile
it does not need to be refrigerated until mixed together
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J.P. User profile Expert
Not necessarily. However, keeping them both in a dark and cooled environment is a well advised standard. It`s been a while since I`ve used Eli Lilly brand HGH, but as I recall it is packaged in a small cardboard box with a sealed plastic tray insert that holds each component in place. Best practice is to simply place the entire thing in your refrigerator. Leaving the plastic tray sealed ensures the manufacturer`s standard of sterility while the cardboard box will protect it from light when the refrigerator door is opened.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
No it only needs to be refrigerated once it has been mixed. Before that room temperature is fine.
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Skuchie User profile
Protocol indicates that you don’t need to refrigerate until the product is mixed, however there is no harm in doing so. I would leave the product in the box, and place it in the bottom and the back of the refrigerator, away from the light and door. It’ll keep the temperature constant and away from light. Please write a product review once you start using it, include how much your using, as I’m deciding on weather or not to buy it, or the generic brown tops.
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Jaris User profile
Yup, like other guys said, you need to refrigerate it when you already mixed it
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Is this to come with multiple needles? If so, I don`t see them where are they? Thanks
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B Rad User profile Expert
Sorry to hear about that man, if you didn`t receive what you payed for then definitely contact NAPS help/support, theyve always taken good care of me and Im sure they will make things right for you.
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N88 User profile
Open a ticket and tel them it didnt come with the “bonus” needles. sometimes they forget the bonus stuff that supposed to come with the order. Take a screenshot of it saying 20 needles.
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Joe User profile Expert
Submit a ticket to naps and explain everything with pictures. Naps has a great customer service. They take care of their customers.
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nickname User profile
Open a ticket at naps help and explain the situation.
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michael patsalou User profile
open support ticket naps will help, good luck
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Just received this. Says it comes with needles, I don`t see them. What am I missing? Thanks
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nicknam User profile
It says it comes with syringe. If you did not receive it open a ticket in napshelp or write an email to support & napsnewsletter.com
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B Rad User profile Expert
Sorry to hear about that man, if you didn`t receive what you payed for then definitely contact NAPS help/support, theyve always taken good care of me and Im sure they will make things right for you.
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N88 User profile
Open a ticket and tel them it didnt come with the “bonus” needles. sometimes they forget the bonus stuff that supposed to come with the order. Take a screenshot of it saying 20 needles.
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Kyler User profile
For sure contact naps about it and with patience they should get it sorted out
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Joe Longo User profile
This does not come with syringes.napsgear has them for sale at a great price
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I will be using this product at 2 IU/day, which means it will last me 36 days. It`s a single cartridge, so I will have to reconstitute all of the 72 IU at once. It apparently lasts only 28 days per instructions of use. How much deterioration can I expect there to occur after these 28 days, and is there a risk of injection using it past 28 days. My last pin would be 8 days past the recommended maximum 28 days of storage.
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Will User profile Expert
No risks with injecting beyond 28 days. Just that the HGH won`t be as effective. I don`t know of any studies that shows just how much the HGH degrades after 3-4 weeks….might be completely degraded or partially. I`d say better planning should help you utilize HGH. Maybe adjust your daily dose to 2.5iu. Also, are you buying more and going to be taking longer than your mentioned 36 days? HGH takes several months months for you to see the benefits it has to offer. Make sure you`re not just trying this for a month or two and getting off. Would be a waste of money.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
No risk to speak of, And the deterioration of the peptide should be very minimal. This is a big Pharma product that typically gives extraordinarily conservative estimates on shelflife, sometimes out right lying about products that will last years or decades past their expiration.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
As stated above when it comes to shelf life pharma companies basically lie. It’s part of their bigger scam to keep hospitals purchasing drugs. You should not have an issue.
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N88 User profile
I issues past 28 days. In fact there should be minimal or zero lessening effects.
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nickname_537 User profile
As long as you keep it in a room temperature to coolish environment no worries. If any item needs reconstitution (mixing) then it must be refrigerated. Other than that steroids and unconstituted hgh as well as hcg and pills etc/injectable steroids (other medications) will last several years past the stated expire dates. The dates are set to prevent law suits just in case and no doubt to keep people/hospitals/clinics/pharmacies/etc etc to continue purchasing more and more product under the pretense that it is “expired” or soon will be. Don`t worry you`re good to go.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
There is no risk as far as bacteria, mold, infection…etc. The “risk” is that the product will not be as potent. It degrades slowly under the right conditions (kept cold in the fridge) but the manufacturer has to cover their bases you know. I personally would want to get it all in within a few weeks of the expiration. Good question and thanks for it.
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Sorry for the lack of clarity… if I do 2 injections a day, I would run out of needles in 10 days. I would not be out of HGH. What needles do I need to buy that work with this product/setup to have extra needles since the 20 it comes with won’t be enough?
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J.P. User profile Expert
Your question was clear lol…. “I regularly use this cartridge from Eli Lilly. Unless something has changed it doesn`t come with the pen. Eli was making them available through practitioners only and may still be. To circumvent the 20 needle thing or not having a pen, I use a sterile empty vial and a box of insulin syringes. Just follow the instructions on the box for reconstituting. Then wipe the little red rubber stopper on the one end with an alcohol prep pad and use the insulin syringe to transfer from the mixing cartridge to the empty vial. After that it`s just some simple division to determine how much to fill your syringe with. Not sure if it`s still up, but Eli Lilly at one point had instructional videos on their website that walked patients through everything”
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Ok if you do 2iu per shot you will need 40 insulin needles to be safe.I believe they are 29ga half inch .Naps sells them by the 100 or singles so you can ad 20 to the order or most pharmacy sell them just say for trt and should be ok.Insulin needles come in 29,30,31 gauge 5/16 or 1/2 inch . Any of these will work just fine
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Again, it sounds like this “all in one” kit doesn’t match your needs. It sounds like you need ordinary hgh that gets reconstituted in an ordinary vial. This way you can you standard insulin syringes and inject as frequently as you like…
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Will User profile Expert
All you`ll need to pick up is insulin needles. They are super cheap and you can buy them at a good assortment of doses within the syringe. I buy 100iu insulin needles because I actually use them for AAS injections as well. Works well with HGH as well. You can Google them and you`ll have plenty of options on places to buy.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
As j.p said, this kit doesn’t come with the pen it comes with separate needles, it should be an easy transfer as jp laid it out for you, follow his instructions and you should be good to go
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Tuck87 User profile
What ever syringes is comes with just get the same type or 30 Gage 1/2 inch always works for me again naps should have what you need
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If doing 2-4iu a day with potentially 2 injections per day, how would 20 needles cover this? Ten days in you would have 0 needles left…
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Your question is not clear…If you do 2x a day for 10 days you will go thru 20 regardless of iu amount per shotIf you have 72iu of hgh and do 4iu per shot you will use 18 needles.
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J.P. User profile Expert
I regularly use this cartridge from Eli Lilly. Unless something has changed it doesn`t come with the pen. Eli was making them available through practitioners only and may still be. To circumvent the 20 needle thing or not having a pen, I use a sterile empty vial and a box of insulin syringes. Just follow the instructions on the box for reconstituting. Then wipe the little red rubber stopper on the one end with an alcohol prep pad and use the insulin syringe to transfer from the mixing cartridge to the empty vial. After that it`s just some simple division to determine how much to fill your syringe with. Not sure if it`s still up, but Eli Lilly at one point had instructional videos on their website that walked patients through everything
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ROBERT User profile
You can watch a step by step how to video on YouTube. For me at least having people explain to me in words is great but taking that and watching a video is what`s most effective for me to understand the best. I`m more of a hands on type guy. Also, if you Google “bacteriostatic water calculator” there will be a easy layout of “fill in the blank” questions with your wants and what you have, once answered you have exact amounts of what you need to do.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
needle are cheap, you can grab 100 insulin needles for about $15 online
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
You need to purchase your own extra needles. Simply purchase a box of insulin syringes, they have needles attached and everything already. 20 needles won`t cover much regardless.
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Tuck87 User profile
If you don`t have enough you can always purchase more there cheap and pretty sure naps carries what you need it depending on your location and local pharmacy
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I saw the closed out question below and I am looking for further details. I am considering this product and need to know what other supplies I need to use it. It says 20 needles but that won’t be enough. Is this “cartridge” a pen where you switch the tips? How would you use regular slin needs for this one?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
It comes with everything included. It is a turnkey product and the needles come with it. You can`t use regular slin needles with it either way.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
This is a convenience product and includes everything that you need, but comes at a significant price. I would strongly consider the color top generic hgh products, and the value is much better with comparable potency and acceptable quality.
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Joe longo User profile
This is a good kit. A go to for the easy of use. Everything is included for use.price is up there but it`s quality and full ready to go your getting for the price.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Eli Lilly doesn`t make their pens available as freely as other manufacturers do such as Pfizer. This is just the cartridge used to reconstitute the dried HGH. As far as pharmaceutical grade HGH goes in this part of the world it`s a decent deal. UGL HGH will no doubt be way cheaper, but go with what you feel the most comfortable using. You don`t need the pen or needles. Scroll up a question or two where I talk about using a sterile empty vial and insulin syringes in place of the pen and needle set up
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Depending on how many iu you want to take you’d only need 5 more needles to get 2.5 ish iu per injection, that’s should be pretty standard, this is a cartridge that comes with everything you need or you could draw it out with insulin needles from the cartridge itself
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Does naps re ship hgh? I`ve seen yes and no on the forums.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
I believe these are sent using a method that virtually never gets detected (hence the additional cost), I have never heard of a single instance of this being seized. But only customer service can answer this conclusively.
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Chris Jeonding User profile
Lou, it looks like you have no faintiest idea about hgh. It actually does NOT have to be refrigerated before reconstitution. This of course depends on a brand and the method they use during manufacturing process but most of the hghs can be stored in room temperature before reconstitution for even as long as 3-4 weeks.
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Scott User profile
Does NOT need to be refrigerated before being reconstituted
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LegacyLifter User profile
They rarely get seized as they use discrete shipping for HGH.
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Does anyone know which hgh is from the USA?
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Naps doesn`t have domestic currently, but the HGH ships real fast to USA so it might as well be.
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
None of the generic stuff comes from the USA. All made from China or India raws from what I`m lead to believe. Hgh ships faster then other gear though so that`s a bonus
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Swoleville User profile
It doesn`t ship domestic. Shipping is just expedited
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ltl trucker User profile
From my understanding, none of its sourced from the US. What NAPS supplies though is good quality
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Will User profile Expert
None of the HGH or AAS on this site are sources from the US. All of them produced overseas.
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nickname_464 User profile
Unfortunately Naps doesn`t have HGH that is manufactured here in the U.S., but if you`ve ordered from Naps at least twice I think they offer a domestic shipping option, but again not manufactured in US. On that same note if you read around the forums you`ll see Naps has a great record for delivering quality HGH.
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Does this Humatrope-72-iu-cartridge-p10990 come from the USA? I`m just kinda worried about spending so much money and have it seized at customs. Thanks ahead of time for your answers.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
No it doesnt. They are shipped from pharmacies in Turkey. There is a risk when ordering hgh because naps doesn`t reship hgh. Some of the colored tops are shipped domestically but you have to pay some premium for them
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N88 User profile
No this product comes from overseas….Turkey i think. Your chances are good for it NOT getting seized in my experience but i see you point due to cost.
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Will User profile Expert
Don`t be hesitant because of the concern of an order being seized. Naps has dealt with so many orders that have been seized and they`ll take care of you and reship. You`re not at risk of losing your money. I also have made several orders with none getting seized.
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Swoleville User profile
In the rare event it gets seized just open a ticket and naps will help you
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
This hgh product will ship from Istanbul with priority mail, so should be at your doorstep by 2 weeks, there’s always a risk that products could be seized by customs unless it ships domestic, if your to worried about it buy domestic if you can roll the dice it should ship smoothly
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How can you tell if this humatrope is not counterfeit? Is there any code that you can verify with Eli Lily`s website or something?
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ltl trucker User profile
The authenticity of synthetic human growth hormone (somatropin) can be determined by several tests:Growth hormone lab analysisDepending on which brand you buy, some manufacturers are willing to pay for the lab test, where you send a sample of their product to a lab of your choice. To find a lab, google and call around. Ask if they are capable of testing for real 191 amino acid sequence somatropin / HGH. The cost of such test in USA is around $350 USD. Ask the manufacturer of the HGH brand if they will reimburse you for the test. Some will do it. HGH serum testA cheaper and simpler test, which can be done by most labs is to have your blood tested for HGH serum prior to injecting growth hormone. Afterwards, take 4IU of HGH and 3 hours later have the same HGH blood serum test repeated. If your product is real the 2nd result should show a drastic increase in serum level. Some manufacturers will also reimburse you for this test after you send them the lab results. Just ask. Growth hormone serum test result inconsistenciesHGH serum levels depend on many factors and are inconsistent from test to test. These factors include injection timing, dosage, diet, current body levels of amino acid degrading enzyme responsible for HGH degradation, potential immune response, etc. For this reason you are unlikely to get the same growth hormone test result twice. The result is a reliable indicator that the injected growth hormone is authentic however it cannot determine the quality or potency of HGH. This is a common misconception often mentioned on bodybuilding forums. HGH serum levels will not tell you “how strong” the growth hormone is, only whether it is real or not.
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J.P. User profile Expert
While I`m not sure about the Eli Lilly websites, I currently have 4 of these at home right now. The box it comes in is going to be sealed like it is when it leaves the manufacturer. The writing will be not in English (don`t recall which languages are on the box at the moment. ) There will be a scan code thing ok n one side of the box with what appears to be lot numbers to each individual component within the kit. On the other end of the box will be an additional part/lot number that I assume represents the kit as a whole. When you open the box and pull out the inner package it`ll be a sealed, plastic container that has been formed to hold each component in it`s own individual space. There will also be an insert pamphlet with a bar code and all of the required information printed in multiple languages. If these are counterfeit, I`d say who ever did so went to painstaking detail with the packaging. Even the components of the kit are properly labeled in the same way Eli products always are, with the lot numbers printed or stamped on them. Also, a small, but relevant point, the product itself is very much real.
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Massgains User profile
As for checking if this hgh is counterfeit I’m not 100% sure about The website for Eli Lilly for checking the code but everytime I ever got one of the humatrope 72 iu-cartridge the packaging is always sealed just as it is by the Manufacture. Once you open it all up each individual cartridge has its own lot number and serial numbers on it. I believe so you know everything in the box goes to that pen. I will tell you one thing I have been using naps for years and years now and I am yet to receive a fake Counterfeit product.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
You should not be worried about counterfeit products here on Naps. If there ever were counterfeit products sold it would be heard about very quickly and that product or supplier would be removed from the site.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
No but it is legit. Although counterfeit pharmaceuticals is a huge industry I don’t believe Napsgear is selling bunk gear at those prices because the people using them would know and it would be a big deal. You can always send a sample to an independent lab to test its potency but that cost money too. If you doubt that it’s real than you should doubt every product sold on Napsgear. I can’t be 100% but I am like 95% sure it’s legit and not a counterfeit. I have yet to hear anyone say a product was not as described.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
If you are that worried, you can Google how the packaging should look, preferably high resolution photos. Compare to your own, and see if you can spot any minor inconsistencies in font, etc. Post the photos of your product online as well and ask other members about it.
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So we cannot apply any store credit or any other type of discount when buying this, is that correct? Also is there an extra higher charge for shipping because hgh degrades fast during transportation. How long does this kit take to arrive?
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Will User profile Expert
Shipping cost for HGH is $50. You can apply rewards credit or loyalty credit towards your purchase but you cannot use any discount codes towards it. The discount codes on payment methods also doesn`t apply. Shipping for HGH is quicker which is the reason for the higher cost.
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ROBERT User profile
Rewards and loyalty credits can be used. $50 Shipping because its quicker.
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Jay Thomson User profile
yes I just checked it, its $50 for shipping growth hormones and i was able to use store credit if i wanted to
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
I believe you can only use loyalty credit or store credit separate but not together, also I don’t think you can combine payment method discounts with rewards or loyalty credit
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Beard User profile
I get mine domestically so I never pay that 50 bux shipping. I have used store credit any loyalty credit at the same time but it only works on certain stuff. Also there`s certain stuff that the loyalty credits won`t show up on. Haven`t figured out why but never cared. I order so much that I use it evenly regardless
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Yes you can use store/loyalty credit. %discounts such as review or bitcoin discounts do not apply to HGH. It will take a few weeks generally.
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I have read that pharmaceutical grade hgh is potent because it is accurately dosed and in the end is a better and more cost effective purchase. Rather than use a generic which may contain only 2iu for every claimed 10iu why not use the accurately dosed one? Can anybody with real personal experience or who knows about some friends personal experience using the pharmaceutical grade hgh vs the generic hgh give me their insight?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
With all the recent testing being done on the Meditropes(black tops) n The Grey Top (these names are important) they r getting CLOSE (not exact) to pharm grade standards. It seems like with each new batch quality gets just that little bit better. Back to the actual names, with the great quality of these generics ur seeing some labs come out with their own brand of black n grey tops that don`t have the same quality. So getting it from one of the 4-5 major suppliers is key to getting real quality meditrope (blacks) n The Grey Top (greys). To compare the generics to pharm is going to be difficult. Since it effects everyone differently from side effects like CTS to overall cycle results. .. its hard to compare one guys results on pharm to another guys results on generics. With the pharm grade products ur paying for the name. .. like with any name brand product. Behind that name of which ever brand u choose, u know it`s a proven n scientifically studied/tested product. But as mentioned u really need to trust ur source. Just as there`s fakes of the generics there`s just as many pharm fakes. Now I`ve heard that the generics will make some people bloat more than pharm. My first kit of the generics made me really retain a lot of water in my feet n ankles. But it seems as though once my body adapted to the extra GH not only did the bloating/swelling subside just about all of the other sides did as well. I`ve tested most of the popular generics on the market n am now just starting the pharm grade omnitrope. It does seem a little stronger than the generics at the same dose but I wouldn`t say it`s double. It`s prob more like 4iu generic = 5-6 iu pharm.
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Micheal Ervin User profile
The only difference I noticed in taking norditropin V. S. the generics which I’ve tried blacks, greys, and blues. Is the water retention, now this could be from my diet or other compounds I was taking at the time but with all of the gh products I’ve used I got the same side effects CTS, energy, better sleep, and better skin, with increased fatloss. For me the only reason I’d take pharma over generic is if I could find it at a cheaper price point.
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mchilds User profile
UGLs are getting better while pharma grade are getting less potent to cut manufacturer costs. I would say try both for yourself and see what you think. If it was saving a little I would say why waste your time but you will be saving hundreds if not thousands.
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Anonymous User profile
I just ordered bunch generic blue tops, if they work I going to keep buying them. Pharma grade is simply too expensive
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nickname_963 User profile
Itseems like the general trend would be another 1/2 again to doubling it. In other words, if it takes 2 IU`s of Saizen, Genotropin, Humatrope or the like to get the job done, it would like take 3IU`s (1/2 again) – 4IU`s (double) of the generic to do the same job. With the bodybuilding applications, that is why you hear of more and more folks using 10IU`s/ day and the like. My guides were suggesting 5IU`s a day . . . but of American HGH. Double that would be 10 . . . the number that seems to actually yield those kind of results in the asian stuff.
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RJB User profile
I think the Black , Blue and Grey NAPS HGH is right there. I am using Grey tops and on my third month along with Test E and Deca and love what I see and feel. . . .
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J.P. User profile Expert
Pharmaceuticals are just about always going to be better. However, the price difference is nothing to shrug off. When I switched to generic from Eli Lilly brand I did notice I needed a little more. In the end it`s still cheaper to go with a generic. Now finding a good, reliable generic is another story. I`ve had luck with Naps grey`s. For example, if I was good with say 3iu a day with Eli Lilly brand, grey`s I`d run 4 or 5iu
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
If you search “Guru Ameen” on youtube you will find great videos addressing your questions exactly. It is still up for debate which is more cost effective in my eyes but Ameen, who is very experienced in the industry, is a strong believer in pharma grade. He does say it`s a waste of money to go generic. Good question and thanks for it
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Does this need to be refrigerated? What happens if it’s not?
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Nathan Cotant User profile
The vials need to be but I’m not sure about the pen. I would assume so, so do it just to be safe.
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LegacyLifter User profile
It’ll deteriorate exponentially.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Yes every cartridge containing hgh should be refrigerated even if not reconstituted, if not then the molecule will rapidly deteriorate
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Micheal Ervin User profile
If hgh is not refrigerated then the 191 amino acid chain will start to weaken and eventually the molecule will deteriorate
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J.P. User profile Expert
It should be refrigerated. There are some exceptions when dealing with certain manufacturers who add what is essentially a preservative to allow for a more reliable transport. The problem is that heat will decrease the potency while allowing for a possible growth of bacteria. Especially in a reconstituted, multiple use vial. Ideally, you will want to keep both powder and reconstituted form in a cool, dry, temperature stable environment. I use a plastic ammo box designed to lock out moisture and store it in the bottom back of the refrigerator.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Somatropin and other peptides need refrigeration after reconstitution. If not, it will lose potency.
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What diluent does this product come with (bacteriostatic water, normal saline, etc. ), and how long does it last in the fridge for?
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Gregarious User profile
These pen kits usually contain Water for Injection with 0. 3% metacresol as a preservative, and 1. 7% glycerin. Humatrope must be kept refrigerated (36° to 46°F [2° to 8°C]) before and after it is mixed. Do not freeze. Once Humatrope has been mixed and is in liquid form, it must be used within 28 days. Throw away any mixed Humatrope left over after 28 days. Before giving an injection, check the date on the cartridge. Do not use the cartridge if it has expired.
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Micheal Ervin User profile
Greg’s answer was spot on the solution usually comes with a preservative inside to help keep the molecule stable being refrigerated before use. I’d say this probably last 2momths if so refrigerated
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RJB User profile
Yeah you will have 1-2 months once reconstituted, the preservative inside will help keep it sable along with it being refrigerated .
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LegacyLifter User profile
It doesn`t last very long. Like everyone else already said, no longer than 1-2 months.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Gregarious post is perfect, these usually contain saline with metacresol and glycerin for preservation. The diluted shelf life will be 1-2 months
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evan johnson User profile Expert
These pens come with the solution inside including bacteriostatic water and rerservatives. They are good for 1-2 months,
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i am looking to do an hgh for working out purposes. i am lost when it comes to IU and things. When they say insulin needles what gauge is that? Also where would i do the injections on myself?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
For strength and athletic purposes you would run 2 iu a day, the iu conversion is simple say you have a 10iu vial, your mix 1 ml of Bacteriostatic Water and every .10 ml or 10 units on a insulin needle will be 1 iu so you’d need .2 or 20 units. There are multiple gauge insulin needles I prefer the 32g cause the bigger the number the smaller the needle, the injections would be sub q right above or beside your belly button and always use sterile alcohol pads and fresh needles.
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
Insulins needles are going to be a smaller gauge, meaning a larger number. Some may be 31 gauge, some may be 29 gauge, depends on the brand. Injecting HGH is typically done in belly fat, there are areas where you won`t even feel it. Some inject it into muscle but it`s not as popular. Learning about IU, or international units, is easy with a little research. For a quick reference insulin syringes hold 1ml which is equal to 100iu. It`ll depend on how much solution your HGH is reconstituted with as to how to dose it.
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anonymous_7475
you shouldnt be using HGH if you are asking those types of questions. You should read posts on HGH in other forums carefully. Seems like you are new. Not trying to be demeanin, but you should educate yourself in detail.
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Does this come with everything you need to get started? I`m thrown by the word cartridge, which sounds like a refill for a pen or similar device.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Yes this comes with 20 needles for the pen, if you wanted you could draw it would of the cartridge with a slin pen but thats not the intended use, pharma gh usually comes with a iu pen that you select the dose and inject them change the needle and it will use only the chosen dosage.
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
It does, but you`d be better off picking up some insulin syringes. They`re cheap. That way you can better tailor the dose to your personal specifications instead of dividing the whole thing up based on the needles that come with it
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T-dog User profile
Yes it does but like Jesse said always have slin needles at hand, I always prefer using them.
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Does it have to be refrigerated?
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Peter T.
Always keep your GH, slin and peptides in the fridge (not the freezer).
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
It does. A lot of people I know order all bbn of their HGH for the year in the winter time. I realize it makes no difference if the stuff is coming from or passing through someplace hot. But I guess at the very least it increases the likelihood of it being kept on the cooler side while in transit.
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T-dog User profile
Yes always keep it in the fringe, once reconstituted with BAC water a vial usually lasts around 8-10 days. Only reconstitute what you need at the time.
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Does this come with the injection device?
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Kors Kester
You mean the injection pen? It does.
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Danny Rubino User profile
No. The 72 iu does not. It only comes with needles. The 36 iu kit comes with the pen I think. I just use insulin needles and draw that way.
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Stephen Lunny User profile
How do you use insulin needles with the cartridge? I didn`t know a pen device was needed for this until it arrived.
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Jackson Ferrante User profile
You use insulin syringes to draw the GH just like your oil based gear. But only small amounts to start. I started with 2.5 iu to start and moved up every week until I found what worked for me. Look up what 4iu`s are so you don`t overdose yourself. Be safe
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
No. With eli lilly the only way to get the injection device I guess is through a pharmacy or something. Makes no sense. But it`s easy and cheap to pick up some insulin syringes. $20 – $30 for a box of 100 is an average price. On the device you have you would stick the insulin needle into the red rubber port on it and draw up your desired dose. Or, if you want to go all out like most people I know, you`d just order an empty sterile vial when you ordered the syringes.