Why the majority of oral winstrol is yellow powder and the injectable form is white powder? Wasn`t it supoost to be the same colour if it is the same substance? Also the taste of injectable is completely different from the oral if you try crush the oral in the mouth and drink the injectable. Thank you
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Branko User profile
Bro ….what??? Oral is pill form SPECIFICALLY for oral use. Injectable is only for INJECTIONS, not to take orally! And it`s not the same. Oral is methylated…
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EDubz User profile
The oral version and the injectable version even though it`s the same exact substance isn`t going to taste or look exactly the same one is made to take orally to go through your liver one is made to inject intramuscular. It`s not like they crush up the pill and mix it with oil and sell it like that it`s a whole different process to make the injectable version
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Zilla User profile
The reason there is a color & taste difference is because the oral form has fillers & dye. Oral & injectable versions are not prepared the same
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nickname_100 User profile
I read these posts RE Winstrol Injectables and people actually using it as a sublingual compound> This is designed for IM injection only. Not desinged to be absorbed via osmosis through our GI tract. If you dont want to inject use the oral version. Again to be taken as a whole unit orally through our digestive tract. Yes, will be metabolized via our liver cells. Should always be taking both with Milk Thistle and NAC to assist in cellular regeneration and inhibit ALT/AST enzyme elevation levels. Limit to about 6-8 weeks towards end of cycle. Use these compounds correctly to minimize cellular damage and oxidative stress to our systems.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
unlike most other orals winstrol is not methylated at the c1 position (like the difference between mast and proviron), but both forms are alkylated at the 17a position. This allows it to to avoid first pass breakdown, but does confer a fair amount of hepatotoxicity for either (the oral is prob a bit worse for reasons i dont feel like getting into.) But they are the same compound so you could drink it, although i doubt it is absorbed sublingually but either can be processed orally, just not sure why you would. Some of these UGLs do not micronize the powder and sometimes that makes it very hard to inject with anything smaller then a 20g (Zambon is the only one i know for sure that is micronized but i`m sure others are out there). But that is just the particle size not the drug itself and can be avoided, but not your question. Some guys realizing this say fuck it and drink it to avoid throwing it out or using a pencil sized needle to pin, i guess i could see that. To answer your question, tablets contain excipients binders and colorants. They can make them any color they want, and in fact the old 2mg stanozolol that used to be available in the US was a reddish brown, but come to think of it most tabs i`ve seen lately are yellow so I see your point. the last thing is i`ve heard a few guys lately talking about oil based inj winny. i have only seen aqueous (water) based winny ever, and that settles out overnight. i could be wrong and maybe just typos but if i had an oil based winny i would question it. Good question tho.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
The oral version has fillers as well as dyes causing it to look and even taste different from the liquid injectable version which does not contain those extra fillers and dyes.
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To match 50mg per day of injectable winstrol how many mgs should we take in oral form? Thank you
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
50 mg will match 50 mg. The only differnce is the half life the oil is about 24 hour half life where the oral is about 8. So split the oral twice a day pin the oil once a day
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nickname_75 User profile
Oral form doesn’t pass by the liver twice and loose some efficiency while injecting passes 1 time? Im asking this cause I had amazing results with 50mg of inj winstrol but now I could only get my hands on this oral winny.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
It comes out to the same the oil has a bennifit that the half life is longer so if you pin 50mg at 8am the next morning at 8 am you will still have approx. 25mg floating around. If you took 50mg oral at 8 am the next day you would have about 7 or 8mg floating around. Other then that they are the same mg for mg. The liver pass only helps out on the liver so oil is less toxic to a degree
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Joeskee User profile
You would have to take 5 winstrol pills to match 50mg injectable but u can get 50mg pills but I wouldn`t advise.
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Jogger User profile Expert
It’s the same dosage bro, if you want 50 a day do 5 pills daily if they are 10mg and split them into 2 equal dosages am and pm good luck
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
The dosage is the same. Some say liquid winstrol can be drank and gives you the same results because it is alpha alkylated 17 like an oral. If you take the tablets just keep in mind to divide the doses because it metabolises in like 8 hrs for the oral whereas the injectable has a longer half life.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
In theory, injectable goes directly into the blood stream and get to where its needs to go and do it`s job. Then it goes into the liver and get “destroy” so it has more time per gram in your body and this is why half-life of injectable are 24 hours. Oral is chemically modified to survived the intestine to get to the blood stream but once it reached the the liver it will be “destroy” just like the injectable. So once both types get into the liver it get destroy. So the only difference is the injectable goes straight into muscle then bloodstream but oral need to survive gastric acid then intestine lining then migrate to bloodstream. Shit by that time the games is over! hahaha Meaning once oral get to bloodstream the amount of time it gets to do is job is practically over! So it is the time of activity and Not the amount of quantity that you need to look at. 50mg for both oral and injectable is fine and equal to one singer. Hope that makes sense! Don`t forget to vote.
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johnnymnemonic User profile
Many bros get confused about it and thwy have no idea what they talk about and they just repeat what they read on the i ternet without any practical knowledge. So oral winny is great and i my opinion better than inj form becasue it also rises liver IGF which inj form doesnt do. As for dosing this is very individual thing. Personally the biggest dose I ran it was 70mgs for 4 weeks pre-contets but the whole winny cycle lasted 14 weeks and ranging from 40 to 70mgs in total. I was perfectly good afterwards and all my liver stats came back to normal when I quit winny. So in your case I believe a cycle of 8-10 weeks with dosing 30-50mgs will be great and with no sides.
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Hey guys, can I add winny to the tail end of my test cycle? It is taking a bit to ship and I was just wondering if that would be ok just to add it at the 6 to 12 week mark or what? Let me know. Appreciate it fella`s
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Drew User profile
You can totally add it to the last 4-6 weeks of your cycle weather you cycle is 12 weeks or 16 weeks. I would take it at 50mgs ed.
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Alex User profile
Yeah that will be fine, alot of pple i know do it more towards the ends of their cycle.
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Test Case User profile
yeah… and depending on how much test you running (and if on the low side like trt levels) you could probably just extend this cycle a few extra weeks to run it with the oral….
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile
Winnyvruns really good at end of cycle to polish off your gains and get you nice and hard/ looking crisp. Depending on how much test you got for your cycle you should def be able to run the winny for the last 6 weeks and go 14-16 with the test if needed idk when you are expecting the winny to arrive. If you need to order another vial of test it should arrive within 35 days of day ordered counting processing shipping and everything
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Yes it`s perfectly fine to run winni on the tail end of the cycle, a lot of people actually prefer it so they don`t get the sides winni gives at the beginning of their cycle.
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N88 User profile
Sure can…winny works great at the end of a cycle and will do well. Up to 50 mgs a day….try less and see how you respond.
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Ordered 3 of these on special to get a fourth free. Great deal for aaster Winny, buuuuuuut it has now been ten days and it hasn’t shipped. I ordered from several brands on the same transaction and all other shipped several days ago. 24roids was down last I tried to load it, so that’s not an option at the moment. Anybody had a similar experience with delayed shipping/etc.?
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Gman User profile Expert
Sometimes it wont show shipping info untill it gets to the states. Just give it time you have to wait the 30 days before 24roids can help you sometimes it`s faster the others enjoy the winny
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Drew User profile
Some times it takes longer than other or sometimes you won’t get any updates and then bang it’s out for delivery the system gets messed up from time to time.
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YD1 User profile
Like others have said. Sometimes it takes a bit longer. Thats why 24roids advice to buy from 1 source to avoid delays and problems. Good luck.
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mchilds User profile
Every once in a while their shipments take a while to get out. Once it actually ships it is pretty quick. That is the biggest issue with delivery with 24roids is the turnover time for them to get products in the mail.
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Fit_mom User profile
Yeah that is one of the downsides to 24roids is the length of time just to ship the product. It was 10 days for one of my orders and it was a split order. We just need to have patience with the 24roids. They offer great prices and gear but at a different cost. That`s why its important to plan out your cycle and get everything you need or think you may need. Good luck
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
24roids is not down. I had similar experience, not every warehouse ships in the same timely manner. Had a package ship 14 days after paying for it.
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My quest is I`ve been running a cut cycle for 5 out of 8 weeks of winstrol 50 MG of Maha n tren at 600cc a week. Now I`ve used Genza cut mix in past wit prop, tren a, & masteron at 150 a day wit 30 MG of GP win tab n to b honest I`m feeling that this cheap out was a costly mistake. So my 2 quest r should I use tren a from aster wit test cyp all aster BTW & winny tab. O am I better staying wit a test prop instead of cyp. I was going to do 700 tren 60 win n 500 cyp o prop. Whichever u guys recommend. Cause at 24 I got my hands on 10 100ml per cc n 10 ml vials n did it back to back till it ran out. Now that I`m 40 n realize I didn`t know shit then n I know a Lil bit now. All advise is welcome I`m 5`10″ at 210 n dropped to a 32 waist from a 34 n was 195 when I started. Ty for all help
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anonymous99 User profile
You should have testosterone as a base when running Tren and I believe you will feel best if your test is at least equal to or more than Tren my friend. You are using Tren acetate from what I understand at the moment so why don`t you stick to test prop which is a short ester like acetate. From looking at your past cycle you should do fine with200 mg test prop eod/ 100mg tren eod and use bro science from there. If you are already 5 weeks out of 8 I would either stay on longer or preferably do this next cycle. And yeah you can add the pills but don`t stay on longer than 6-8 weeks. I hope this helped.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Whether you use cyp or prop won`t make much of a difference and depends how often you want to pin. And since you are already using tren you may want to opt for the prop.
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D-man User profile Expert
If you plan to run Tren A, then it is easier to run Test prop, because you can inject at the same time. You can run Tren E, with Test E or Cyp. and inject at the same time. When I am running Tren, I like to keep my Testosterone lower, this way I don`t get the water retention. But I get great results from 400mg of Tren and 250mg of Test. More is not always better my friend.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Just jump on some test and you will be fine – and going forward you need to run a test base with virtually everything, at least at a TRT level (200mg per week).
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mchilds User profile
I’m not really sure what half of what you said but cyp or prop doesn’t matter. Test is test. Just stick with that. Don’t do 700 of ten, ever. I always have to be 2-300mg more of test than tren to maintain erections, etc. so I run 350-500 tren and 500-700 of test along with it respectively. I never get results from oral wini. Cyp and prop both have low water retention fyi.
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N88 User profile
Test P is better for a cut cycle vs a long ester. .. .just have to pin more times a week–min of every other day. Also tren is good at the tail end and also winney. At low doses this oral can be ran a little longer if taking liver support
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Johnb User profile
If u gonna run tren ace and have to inject every other day anyway I would test prop not cyp. So I would run the super ripped blend plus get the Masteron.
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Have a female friend that I train with and we have changed up her diet and cardio but she is still having a problem cutting fat. Looking for a product to help her or a combination of products to help with this. Even if we have to do a 6 or 8 week cycle. Thanks.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
What exactly do you mean by “changing up” her diet and exercise plan? If she is not measuring and logging every single morsel of food and beverage that goes into her mouth with a calorie and macro counter, than you are never going to see good, predictable results. Take this step, with a focus on high protien and low carbohydrates, and have her eat at 500-100 kcals below maintenance everyday, and you will start to see meaninful results. Sorry, but gear is not the answer if you cannot lose weight naturally, especially for a female.
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Tren Man User profile
I don`t think she is on the right diet. If she is not cutting naturally there is no point putting her on steroids. People eat junk food and not tell anyone
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Anonymous User profile
If you are taking in more calories that your are burning you are going to gain fat. If she is not loosing fat it means she is taking in more calories that she is burning. A lot of women take anavar and are happy with the results, but doses for woman are much lower than men so if she is not eating right don`t expect any results
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Will User profile Expert
When it comes to dropping fat in general, not a show as your goal, diet is the primary thing to focus on. Reassess her diet and ensure she is eating in a calorie deficit on a daily basis. Changing food quality is not always enough and sometimes when another person picks out a diet for another, diet is often still high in calories. Plenty of methods you can also look at like carb cycling or keto. But if her body hit a plateau, you need to drop calories more. The fat burning compounds on here are not something to toss into someone`s diet unless they are cool with prescription compounds. In which they need to do a lot of research on for running correctly. Start with diet. Maybe a fat burner supplement. Last resort in what`s available on here.
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John Juan User profile
Definitely change in diet and some high intensity cardio. In addition, give some Anavar and HCH a try. Try very light dose last of both in the beginning.
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mchilds User profile
I agree with some of the others but if she is simply trying to lose weight gear is not the issue. Have her get her thyroid levels checked. You could start her on T3 and an ECA stack and Yohimbe. This combo will work if her diet and conditioning is in check. Have her try fasting if you can’t figure out the diet for her. Most people lose weight if they don’t eat 😉