Can you take Deca-Durabolin when on a cycle of Win and testosterone?
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Bob Johneser
Yep, thats a good combo! One test, one nor-test, and one DHT dirrived element! Also, winny dries the joints, deca lubes them (sort of).
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Dr. Scott Expert
You can, but i always have a reason for adding things to a stack, particularly orals. for me i hold a bit of water from deca, so the dry effects of winny are largely washed out by the deca (and test). i will run winny with compounds like tren, EQ or primo to better exploit the lean gains from the winny. of course i dont make the rules (no one does) and everyone is different but for me with a test/deca stack i much prefer DBOl, sure i hold some water but the size and strength gains are pretty dramatic. To each his own brother.
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nickname_21 Expert
You can take anything almost with anything but the trick is what`s your goals and why. So winstro an test the only reason you should run that is if your trying to lean down and make your muscles look mean and ripped now it test is too high your gonna get a wetter puffer look add deca even more so. Unless test is already low and you want to run deca at 200mg or lower per week for joint relief. I would say save deca for a bulk to run with test and make gains
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JamesEarl Expert
Of course you can, but remember while winstrol is dry and suitable for cutting although diet determines if it is a cut or a bulk, the problem is deca will add bloat negating the dry lean gains of winstrol. Maybe use EQ instead of deca so you get lean gains from equipoise.
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I`m going to cycle 50mg a day of Win for 8 weeks. Do you have to walk up to 50 mg then walk back down to nothing at the end of your cycle or can you start with 50 and end with 50. Also how often can you cycle on and off Win?
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nickname_311
I would taper on off just like you said there we get what you`re understand anyway I do of started off small and sitaly building up I usually just use Winstrol to kick-start a cycle
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nickname_762
So how many mg to start and how fast should you go up?
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JamesEarl Expert
You can taper off, however keep your cycle no more than 6 weeks. The rule of thumb is to take off from oral usage at least equal or double in length to time on. Use liv52 along with orals and if your budget allows it buy some NAC also. Good luck with it man!
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CommiBiden
You may find win to be harsh on the joints. Recinsider with HGH176 & 800mg per week primo or HGH191aa & followup with six wks Hexarelin. One event overlooked in prescriptions is increased production of endogenous HGH may be accomplished using strategies such as Hexarelin post cycle for six weeks max. After this stage you loose bang for buck.
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crazy Dan Expert
Winny half life is 9 hours so i rather split my daily dose than taper up and then down my dose. one in the morning and one in the evening. This keep you blood level even and as saturate with the gear as much as possible. Since you are taking 50mg a day, i would take the larger dose, in your case 30mg an hour or 2 before i work out. This is give you a great pump and can push you a little extra. So in short, don`t taper the dose. Instead split your daily dose. Lastly, i recommend you take winny no longer than 6 weeks max! It`s toxic to your liver. And i would space the frequency out like i would with each cycle. Hope that answer your questions friend! And don`t forget to vote.
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Ok so first time cycling Win. I was going to run 50 mg a day with 250 mg of cypionate every 3-1/2 days for 8 weeks. Does this sound good. Trying to cut up and loose a few pounds. Also is it true the Win blocks estrogen effects from the testosterone?
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Cyclone Expert
Winstrol`s anti-estrogen in effects are pretty minor, You should still have an aromatase inhibitor on hand in case you run into elevated estrogen issues. The only criticism that I would have for the cycle is that it`s too short. Yes you can only run the Winstrol for eight weeks, but since you`re going to the trouble and risk of shutting down your system you might as well run the testosterone portion for a total of 12 weeks.
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JohnSmith
This is a good elementary cutting cycle. You might start the winny 6 weeks out from the end at 50mg. Also, winny does not prohibit aromitization from the test, it just does not aromatize itself. Rubbing 25-50mg of proviron a day will help increase hardness and give you this effect. I`d still run an ai every other day, as it will give you a harder look by cutting out estrogen. When I run arimadex I can go from looking like I`m mid bulk to mid cut in a matter of 2 weeks.
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crazy Dan Expert
I would cycle for 10 cycles since testC takes few week to kick in. I would also wait until week 3 to start taking winny. My objective is to have both winny and test to kickin at similar time do i can get the full effect of both together! Then on week 9 i would stop taking winny since winny shoukd not be taken more than 6 weeks. Then on week 10, just ride it out!! week 12 start your pct. Hope that`s clear buddy! And don`t forget to vote.
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Hi all,I am a 44 y.o. athlete female,lift 5-6 days/week. I`ve used HGH 2 ui/6 months last year. Already see great results!Clean diet, cardio, lift….But still have that little puff/bulge/fat around my abs, and would like to lean out more. What is the best product to use, Anavar or Winstrol? I already purchased Anavar, and thinking about HGH again for well being/slow aging process :-))))))Thank you all. Have a great pump. And stay safe!!!
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Zilla
I always say anavar for women bc there is virtually no chance of developing side effects. The biggest determining factor will be diet & cardio but var will help some
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CodyScott
My fiance is running 10mg of Anavar a day, and EQ300 twice a week at a low dose and her abs have came so far! They look amazing!! Try the anavar, stay consistent and remain on a healthy diet! Hope this helps Ma`am. Have an awesome day!!
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anonymous007
Wow! That`s what I`ve been researching…Var+Test in low dosage. Honestly, don`t care about becoming a man. Hahaha! My man calls me She-man already. Just kidding! Thank you, CodyScott
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Winning13
I agree with CodyScott about running 10mgs of Anavar per day because it is the safest way for a female to lean out and get crazy results without suffering a lot of side effects. My wife will be starting her 10mgs of Anavar soon as well. It work very well. Good luck!
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Patriot_1234 Expert
Since you want to get more ripped, my opinion would be for Var, Clen and T3 all together. There`s many ways to cycle clen successfully, google can go into detail. The T3 is a pretty strait forward slow pyramid to come on and off. HGH would be great if you can throw it in again. Good luck.
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MichaelSmith
My wife is 37, if she takes a combination of anavar 20mg split twice a day and cy3 Monday/Thursday (weekends off) she gets shredded. Women have to be careful with cy3, it has t3 in it, but it`s a low enough dose that it doesn`t impact her negatively (it doesn`t mess up her thyroid)
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Onyx
I would say anavar. Also hgh is a great product. Good luck!
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What do you guys think about taking oral winstrol sublingual to avoid liver bi pass and have less toxicity? Is it going to be absorbed under the tongue efficiently?
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steveo3194
Yes it will be absorbed sublingually probably even faster since it`s under your tongue but you might as well just swallow the pill because it`s going to do the same exact same toxicity to your liver in that regard. I imagine sucking on a tab of winstrol tastes pretty bad.
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nickname_75
But swallowing passes 2 times through the liver and sublingual isn’t suppost to pass just 1 time in the liver like injections?
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Jogger Expert
Dr touliatos on YouTube said it passes once through liver if done sublingually, that guy knows hiss stuff
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nickname_75
Thats exactly what i heard him saying
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JohnSmith
No, orals are metholated and must pass through the liver for the chemical to process.
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nickname_75
Mixed theories in here, damn Lol
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Will Expert
As stevo pointed out above, under the tounge would cause it to enter the blood stream faster, however the liver still ends up doing the same amount of work which makes it just as toxic. Another thing to consider is unless a pill is made for dissolving under your tounge, it won`t absorb into the blood stream. It will either sit in your mouth until your swallow or dissolve into particles that are eventually swallowed. You can confirm this with a doctor or nurse in the medical field if you`d like. If you`re the patient, they are bound by confidentiality.
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Hi!I`m a female and looking into trying Winstrol, I`d like to know what would be a good dose to start with. Thanks.
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nickname_537
Inject 50mg weekly winstrol weekly. Too much more and you risk permanent virilization (male features, hairiness, beard, etc).
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Zach Linder Expert
If thisis your first rodeo with Winny, 50mg probably will be too harsh. 5 – 10mg max for a first cycle of winny is plenty. this compound is very androgenic and you may experience sides at a lower dose. it`s best to always start small and learn how your body reacts and tolerates each and every compound. also, I wouldn`t run it for more than 6 weeks. Please always remember, less is more. I feel like most people on here DO NOT have experience with female cycles (my knowledge is very little as well) so PLEASE do some research or maybe even consider hiring a coach that is very well versed in female cycles. Good luck, be safe
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skitt
Also to address another comment that John Willis said on your other post.. you will NOT NEED a Testosterone base at all… The whinny is just fine for you…good luck
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Drew
You only want to take 5 10 mgs Ed the absolute most I would go up to is 15mgs.
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Anonymous
Hello please take very low doses as they mentioned above, either winstrol or var. I do not recommend taking anything other than those especially as a women. As he said ^ 50mg weekly should be fine, keep it as low as possible and play it safe. Best of luck!
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Atrem
Just be aware of that with women, in order to avoid taking on male sexual characteristics, such as deepening Voice, Bobby here, and even enlarged clitoris, females must take MUCH lower dosages and be very cautious.
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Also following up on my last question, if I`ve never used winstrol before would 25 mgs a day provide good results seeing that I`m new to the product?
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Fit_mom
That would be too low a dose for a male and to high for a female. Men are usually 40-100mg ed and women 5-10mg ed. Make sure to take a liver support such as tudca 500mg a day is good for support.
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YD1
No, it won`t be. At 50mg split/daily will be good enough during the whole cycle. But if your looking to bulk this is the wrong way to go my friend. Go Dianabol and make sure you have testosterone included in all your cycles! Good luck!
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Joe Hodgins
If your a male than take Atleast 40mg a day. 50mg is what I usually go with and if I need to up it after a couple weeks I go to 60mg. Split your doses as well, so if your taking 40mg a day then take 20 in the morning and 20 an hour before workout. (If you workout in the late afternoon). Winstrol is really for cutting and getting lean and it’s great at it.
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Will Expert
I`d say 25mg is a good starting point. Start low and work your way up in future cycles. The leaner you are, the more pronounced winstrol will be.
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nickname_537
50mg daily. Or if you have smaller dosed tabs like 10mg each the smallest should be 40mg daily. 25mg per day and you risk wasting the product and getting no real results. Also have testosterone as a base on all cycles.
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N88
You can start with 25 but really winny starts being effective around the 40-50 mgs a day range. you can always start low and bump up after a few weeks
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Would this be a good choice to jumpstart my cycle with if i am running a long ester test?
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YD1
If you are looking to jump start a cycle I would go with Dianabol or superdrol. Wintrol is more for strength/tightening/cutting. You wont bulk much with it. It would be great to hear what is your base. Are you using testosterone ontop of winstrol?? Because tou will need it. Do test at 400mg and dianabol at 20mg daily to start. But If I was you I would just do Testosterone Enathate at 200mg-400mg weekly for 12 to 18 weeks. Dont do winstrol ALONE ! Giid luck bud
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Fit_mom
Dragon Pharma is good product. It is if this is your first oral and injection cycle. Dont know what your goal if your cutting or bulking. Many like to use it to cut with when in the cutting phase as it helps to shead water. You won`t need an ai with it by itself but if your taking test you most likely would depending on dosage. The ideal thing to do is split the dose since it has such a short half life of 8 hours.GOOD LUCK.
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Joe Hodgins
Like YD1 said winstrol isn’t a great jumpstart. It’s more of a mid-cycle or finisher to shed some weight and get lean/vascular. If your trying to jumpstart your test cycle and are already pretty lean and don’t have much fat then like YD said go with dbol. If you already aren’t that lean and have a couple extra pounds on you then tbol is a great choice. Many people overlook tbol and I’m not sure why because it is a GREAT oral steroid especially as a jumpstart imo. It’s very similar to dbol except without the water weight so your gains won’t be as dramatic as with dbol but they will definitely be more true, lean, dry muscle. If u do try tbol, 40 mg a day is a good dose. Good luck brotha
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Will Expert
A lot of people use orals to jump start cycles but I think they are better used when you hit a plateau in weight and reps after a couple consecutive weeks. The oral then is a plateau buster and allows you to overcome that. Imo, that`s how they are best used.
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N88
Winny is better for a duration or late in the cycle support oral. A better jump start would be dbol or adrol. Those two work fantastic
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nickname_48 Expert
Dbol and anadrol are the best compounds to jump start a cycle because they increase the receptors activity. Winny is best for cutting
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So does winny help with ai? And also what`s a good dose to start with if i wanna run it with just test?
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Gaingang
I would personally still use an ai. It does help but some people are more prone to side effects such as Gynecomastia wich is a nightmare. Dosages usually range from 40-100 mg a day and dont use winstrol longer than 8 weeks. Its harsh on your liver.
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anonymous255
I get good results with with 20-30mg winstrol with just test, but a pretty average dosage is 40-50mg a day. You do not need to run over 50mg. Please do not run 100mg a day of winstrol.
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nickname_537
It`s ok, it lowers bloat actually. If you need an actual ai I`d suggest you use it. But I`ll be honest I`ve never ever had issues even at 1,500mg testosterone per week. Everybody is different. Not everyone gets the same side effects or to the same extent you know? Main thing is use it if you need it but don`t use an ai if not required.
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anon5_uk Expert
Winstrol doesn`t act as an anti-estrogen if that`s what you are asking. You`ll still need AI due to test. But you won`t need AI to cover estrogenic side effects of winnstrol since it doesn`t aromatize. But test still does though.
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Joe Hodgins
It does help with bloat but you will still need an ai (most likely..everyone’s body is different) if your taking testosterone. Definitely take test with it and run the Winnie at 40-50mg a day for no more than 8 weeks. Also, get a good cycle support while taking the Winnie
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LongIslandBEAST
I run winstrol at 50mg a day oral. Winstrol is good with I because I believe it binds to SHBG which in turns lowers estrogen production. The higher your SHBG the more sex hormones the body requires to fill receptors so by binding to it there is more available free estrogen and testosterone to bind to SHBG.
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What`s a good stacking cycle using 10mg oral winstrol an 250gm oral tren ..also direction using the liver clean an Clomid..thx
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Koby
Man up and take a shot of Test and Deca. Orals only = Jason Genova physique.
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Dan Drought
You should never stack 2 orals together, stack either with a base of test instead.
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evan johnson Expert
You should also add in test and possibly masteron since it seems like you are going for a cutting stack
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JESSE PEARSON Expert
First things first, you`ll have a better experience if you use testosterone as a base while running either of your chosen compounds. Second, after you have your testosterone base going for you spread out your orals. Taking them both at the same time will be taxing on your body. So maybe, take the Winstrol with test. When you`re done the Winstrol allow a few weeks for your system to clean out, then run the tren. In the future though, stick to injectable tren. For the Clomid, save it for post cycle therapy. If you were talking about pct, clarify and we`ll get into pct. If not, then get something like Arimidex or Aromasin for estrogen control. Also, since you`re dealing with tren you`ll want to get some Caber.
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nickname_537
Don`t stack two orals together because it`s very harsh on the liver and can cause permanent liver damage. Limit use to a MAXIMUM of 8 weeks (prefer 4-5 weeks, 6 weeks seems ok). Use testosterone as a base always because it`s going to get suppressed and you need it for normal bodily functions because it is naturally occurring after all.
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N88
Just run test. Taking winny and oral tren is not a good idea. Bad for your body and the results at those doses will be not very good.