I have gotten Test C 200mg from the states for a year. Trying to reduce cost, I bought this product but I have had pain and signficant swelling at the injections sites since. Has this happened to anyone else? Any tips??
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A19 User profile Expert
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Pain and swelling? Are you using a different size pin? Are you injecting more mL`s at a time? How viscous is the oil? The viscosity can cause pain and swelling if it`s very thick. You can run the vial under hot water for a minute or two to thin it out. What kind of carrier oil is it? It`s also possible you might be allergic to it. You can contact 24roids to find this out. Try massaging the injection site prior to injecting as well as after injecting. Hope this helps. Don`t forget to vote. Thanks for the question.
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Texas User profile
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Thanks for the reply!!
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
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Aaster is a great lab my friend! I love their carrier oil to reduce viscosity like GP carrier oil. So try wiping down the rubber stopper before and after you draw with alcohol. wipe heavily around injection area with alcohol. Then when pinning try penetrate the needle with your skin perpendicular. sometime if you penetrate skin at an angle it can cause irritation. When needle is in try not to move it to much as you push the plunger. Doing this can cause trauma and therefor irritation. After injection wipe area with alcohol and massage the area for a few minutes. this helps spread the gear through out the muscle. Hope that`s helps buddy! and don`t forget to vote.
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Texas User profile
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Thanks bud!! I`ll give all that a try.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
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It`s normal to feel some swelling and irritation especially when your body is not used to the compound or the carrier oil, it could also be the ratio of ba to bb in the oil. This pain and swelling will subside soon. Just massage the area good after injecting it and press the plunger slowly to reduce trauma. For example dhb is known to cause a lot of pip, but after a couple of injections I have gotten used to it and really don`t feel much pain any more. Your body will get used to it, and just watch out if it`s an infection because it will worsen but it is unlikely to be an infection. Just be sanitary and use alcohol swipes deliberately and clean up well, then you`ll be good to go.
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Texas User profile
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Thanks JamesEarl!! I hope I acclimate quickly.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
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It`s not abnormal to get some pain/swelling near the injection site. But if it`s pretty bad, you may have a small allergy to the mixing oil aster uses. Keep an eye on the area for excessive heat, swelling getting bigger, fever, etc. I`ve had a few bad pins and most of the time it was due to my injection technique. Make sure you always swab the rubber stopper before and after you draw inti syringe.
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Texas User profile
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Thanks bud!
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What is the carrier agent in the testosterone cypionate by Aaster Solutions? And preservatives or other ingredients?
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johnnymnemonic User profile
Very potent and smooth cyp. The best in the biz. As far as I remember they use pharmaceutical mygliol or mct.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
I`ve heard migliol too, rather I read it some time ago. Generally the carrier oil is of no concern unless there`s an allergy to it. Aside from ba and bb to keep germs out and preserve as well I don`t think any other ingredients other than the actual anabolic steroid powder is dissolved in the solution.
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Jogger User profile Expert
Mygliol bro and it’s smooth, I have used there Cypionate
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Jaris User profile
Mygliol, but they are pretty high quality, so theres nothing to worry about. Good luck
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MickeyJohnson User profile
Actually, pharma migliol is one of the best oils if not the best.
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I ordered from aaster about 2 weeks ago and my order is still showing paid/processing and says it hasn`t shipped yet. How long does it usually take for orders to show as shipped?
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MegaCycle User profile
I would open a ticket with them. I have had 2 orders that were paid and not shipped, opened a ticket and they actually shipped the system just didn`t update for some reason
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Papi1266 User profile
I would say, there seems to be a delay, because I have ordered from Alpha and recieved it in 2 week, maybe look into opening a ticket with 24roids.
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Shipping User profile Expert
Unfortunately this is a common theme right now. Gotta be patient
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Matt Beard User profile
Should have shipped by now in my experience with aaster, worth questioning 24roids on this one.
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JMann User profile
It depends on your payment method, if you did bitcoin it’s faster if you did say Moneygram it could take 2-3 days to pick your funds up, then 4-5 days to ship it out. Hang in there you will get your things, totally worth the wait, 24roids is legit. And I’m sure you have heard of the virus running through China, so it might take a little longer than usual.
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Hiker001 User profile
Same here, it`s on it`s way though and appears it has hit my local city. I ordered approx 2.5 weeks ago.
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Hello everyone – I was informed products from Asia, after waiting a month for shipment, are still on restriction. That being said, I`m looking for a European lab for Test Cyp. Which would you recommend? Hilma Biocare or Aaster? Thank you.
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nickname_533 User profile
Do not use Aaster, the wait time is ridiculous right now! I`ve been on paid/processing for 3 weeks
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Dromeo User profile
Aster is legit. Many people over the last few weeks have said that they`ve received their order within two weeks of placing it. Aster`s customer service is on point too. They were involved in a thread earlier this week addressing someone`s concerns.
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John User profile
I ordered some stuff from Aloha a Pharma on July 19. It arrived to my house in 19 days. Excellent timing considering what`s going on with all these China delays. Be patient and 24roids comes through in the clutch
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BigOlRed User profile
Aaster is currently what I`m waiting for they are switching everything from geneza
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nickname_464 User profile
They are both great, I`m currently waiting on a Hilma order as we speak. Your going to be happy with either one.
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Philip Casing User profile
I owuld go with Aaster. They have huge load of orders now but stil manage to ship fast And they products are great quality. Hilma is not bad but inferior to Aaster and I heard their shipping is often delayed.
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If I bulked for 10 weeks, cut for 5 weeks, then PCT.. would the cut affect much of my muscle growth? Of course with correct training and diet and everything.
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Michael Vasquez User profile
Depending on what you`re running on your cycle you shouldn`t see much of a loss in muscle. I run a similar cycle except mine is 8 weeks bulk and 8 weeks cut. I usually use tren on my cut it helps maintain most of my muscle from my bulk and helps with the fat burning.
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Big Dogg User profile
You shouldn`t see much loss if you`re still on gear. Running like that might help you keep some of the gains. If you`re running deca, high test, dbol… you`ll lose some water no matter what. Switch to short esters and dry compounds you should be able to cut up and keep/build muscle.
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LArry J User profile
Any cut will affect muscle to a certain degree. It may not be noticeable on an average gym person like most of us on here. Try some primo while cutting. 400-600mg a week. It helps with retainjng muscle while dieting
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Bill User profile
I`ve never heard of “cutting” for 5 weeks. That takes months. You want to start the diet then fine tune your cal/macros then add in the cardio as needed. Once you have that dialed in after a couple months then start your cutting drugs for about a 2-3 month time frame. Making your cut 4-6 months in total depending on your current body fat.
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Papi1266 User profile
I agree with Larry I would run primo as well to help minimize the muscle loss, some loss is inevitable also diet is key
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
Some but it will be minimal.
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I am planning on doing a minincut for about 4-6 weeks, which will probably drop my calories to about 2,400-,2,500 so quite a hard minicut, but my question is how much test would be enough to keep my muscle. Ive heard that 100mg of test weekly should be enough. I was planning on doing 400mg mast weekly, 100-200mg test weekly.
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Rambo1213 User profile
I would run a base of 150 – 250 ml per week depending on how your feeling. Hope this helps, good luck.
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Will User profile Expert
If your mini cut is 4-6 weeks, why change your Test dose? Stay the same as your previous cycle or pull back a bit. The extremeness of your cut and training is what will dictate your ability to retain muscle. Training wise, hold your strength the best you can. When that starts dropping, then you can expect lean tissue loss. So an extreme cut isn`t usually the best idea. Calorie deficit and switching away from carbs and make sure it`s high protein and moderate fat should help you shed bodyfat while maintaining muscle. Lots of other variables as well though.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
100 mg of test would stopnatty and reace it with less than Natty just making estrogen,do not run test h less dosing 200 a week atleast
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ThePony User profile
I`m on 200mg a week of trt and can cut and add muscle on very easily and without any loss or fat gain based on diet. 200mg of test and 400mg of mast would be great!
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Snitty88 User profile
Looks like you have a good plan. 200mg of test, 400mg of mast and if you wanted to get mildly aggressive 200mg of Tren would be a great cut. For 8-10 weeks
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Chris User profile
You could take some anavar at50mg for 6 weeks and have a great mild side free cut
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Would thier be any benefit running Test & HGH together? Do they work synergistically?
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Dromeo User profile
Definite benefit. If you can run both do it. Sounds like your first go around with test. If I was you I`d run the Cyp at 400mg/ week broken up into two shots. Monday and Thursday. HGH I`d start at 2iu a day and work up to 4. 5 days on 2 days off. If you have the money you can just run the HGH daily.
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John User profile
Yes Test and HGH work great together. They both work differently but results are amazing when combined. I run HGH for 8 months through the year and 2 16 week cycles of Test.
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JMann User profile
Absolutely, running anabolics alongside GH, will give you great results. You can basically have size and leaness. Rather than one or the other.
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Papi1266 User profile
The combination of these compounds are excellent you will be extremely satisfied with the results. I would run test at 400- 500mgs a week, and start at 2iu to start. Good luck
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Big Dogg User profile
Absolutely! That is artificial puberty. Those are the 2 main hormones responsible for male muscle and bone growth and development. Either one is great by itself but with both together you`ll be 17 again.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Why wouldn`t they? Google dues wonders
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When ppl say to inject every 3.5 days for stable levels, that`s basically in the beginning of the 4th day correct? Just want to make sure I got it right.
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3-4 days. User profile
Close enough. Sunday night, Thursday morning.
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Big Jake User profile
In my experience, anything remotely close works pretty much the same. I do Monday morning and Thursday evening. If I`m 8-12 hours off it`s meaningless, the half-life of test cyp is about 8 days. To wait 7 days between injections would offer more fluctuation in level than the 3.5 day plan. If you`re taking a smaller dose weekly might work ok. larger doses or complex cycles are best twice a week. Sometimes I`ll pin some Deca twice a week as well, or if I feel I need an AI, I`ll pop have an arimidex twice a week too.
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ThePony User profile
Think 1 Devin gn a whole day, and a half being 12 hours. Due to the half life of 3.5 days, this give your hormones the best chance at being elevated and remaining stable.
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traianos123 User profile
Monday morning and thursday night will work great, it does for me.
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Matt Beard User profile
Because of my secret steroid life from my partner I tend to do Tuesday morning, Friday morning when she is at work, but perfect timing would be Tuesday morning, Friday evening or any split like that.
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John Rambo User profile
What i do for 3.5 days is Monday morning and then Thurs evening. 3.5 days to help with most stable blood levels. Good luck man
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Could I inject in the early afternoon or does it have to be in the morning?
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Injection User profile
Anytime, I inject morning afternoon and night.
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ThePony User profile
It makes no difference on hormone levels. I inject if every 3.5 days; so morning and night.
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Whatever User profile
Whatever works for you. Sometimes if you have pip and try to sleep it might be uncomfortable.
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traianos123 User profile
U can inject any time u want, but if u keep the time range at 3.5 days between shots is better, more stable hormonal levels.
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Big Jake User profile
You can pin it anytime you`d like. IM injections allow for quicker uptake. If I am pinning a little early sometimes I`ll do it subq (1/2ml at a time or less) so it absorbs more slowly. pin anytime you want, timing is less than critical with test cyp. You usually reach your peak level about 2 days after you pin anyway
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Matt Beard User profile
Your choice when, just a good idea to try and keep it 3.5 days apart from injections.
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Does testosterone sting while being injected? If so how bad?
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
It all depends on the person. Any needle is going to sting.
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Swolebro User profile
It can. Especially if your muscle is virgin muscle and not used to injection. Or if the oil is thick. It shouldn`t hurt too bad tho. I`d say maybe a 3 out of 10. If it`s really painful, something else may be going on. Poor injection technique or allergy to the oil.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Very very minimal, depending on needle, injection site and injection speed, don’t worry about it I can hardly feel it
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traianos123 User profile
maybe the way u are injecting is not right or the muscle is virgin, anyway this never happend to me. Try to inject in other area.
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Will User profile Expert
Needle size, spot of your injection and if you knocked something, and type of test can all make a difference. Test P and sust always gave more PIP than Test E or C.
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nickname_506 User profile
Well, if you inject a metal needle in living flesh you have to feel.something. the same goes for injecting oil in a living muscle with nervous system. But dont worry,.it is not going to be a huge oain. Sometimes you will hardly feel anything. Go for it and see for yourself. For your first shot maybe ask a more experienced juicer to help you?
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For anyone who has ordered and used this test C how was the quality apon arrival (I`m not talking about packaging)? Have you seen or felt a good amount of gains with using it. Last question approximately how long did it take for your order to arrive? Thank you.
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bobby charlton User profile
I live in Europe it took about 13 days, this is a solid company and will give you great gains sir, good luck
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RJB16 User profile
Have always had good results with Test C, When I order I have had packages come in 9 days and this last one was 42 days. So you might want to plan accordingly….
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Markus Bradley User profile
Absolutely great product. Prepare for super nice gains and pumps. Shipping to the US took 10 days for me.
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Aester User profile Expert
Took 12 days to get to east coast. Quality is awesome.
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Mike User profile
I have never gotten packages in less than two weeks and on average it takes about three weeks to get them. I think the longest it ever took was five weeks to get my gear. I have never had one shipment seized and I have been ordering from from 24roids for years (I think 10 years now) Aaster is a good brand. You will like it. A lot of pros use it. Depends on what you were looking for as far as dosing and length of cycle. An average test cycle can be anywhere from eight weeks to 20 weeks I would say. From 350-750mg/week split in 2 shits about 3 days apart. Get PCT and an AI before your first shot. Especially now with the coronavirus, who knows how shipments will be until that is under control.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Anywhere between a week and a month usually there`s no set point for shipping unfortunately. And I have always had good luck with test. You`ll be fine.
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Since idk if there is a way to respond on previous questions I`ll just make a new thread. As far as my first question I totally forgot to take in account test c has longer esters so thank you all that pointed that out. And to the person that said something about me being prescribed at 19 there is litteraly no way for a Kansas kid (unless you have amazing bloodlines) to compete with texas or Florida or Georgia players. They just have something in the water down there lol but in all seriousness for my question regarding shipping yes I`m sceptical because yes they xray every incoming package if they even see like protein powder they will open it and check and all bags we bring over gets xrayed hope this clears up my previous questions! Once again thank you
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Regan Blake User profile
My Aaster order came from Europe. It was nicely and discreetly packed. I think they don`t have a problem with the US customs at all but a military base may be a different thing. Although I might be wrong and you have nothing to worry about. Either way, even if your package gets confiscated, which I strongly doubt, 24roids will make it right for you.
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Papi1266 User profile
Maybe I would consider a different addressor another way to get it,if they will go thru your packages
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Big Dogg User profile
Dont have this shipped to a military base. They have their own rules. They can search and open your mail and consequences may be harsh (you would know better than me). Get a POBox at a UPS store and pick it up there. The comment I made about the doctor was not personal to you. I knew you were from the midwest when I read it. The POS doctor would risk you (and your whole team`s) lifelong health so you could win a football game. It`s a f`ed up mentality held in parts of this country. Make sure you have AI and PCT before you start your cycle.
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
I wouldn`t go through a military base. Have it shipped elsewhere at all possible. You`re dealing with top notch security when looking stuff over.
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Pookie User profile
If they are Xraying everything don`t risk it. Find some other way to get the gear
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Xray User profile Expert
I wouldn`t mess around with a military base just rent a box
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For my second question is regard to shipping I`m worried about from what I`ve seen on other people`s Q&A`s they send amples and stuff just wrapped in bubble wrap lol I know forsure that will not pass through customs maybe in the states but definitely not passing through customs on base can anyone give me confirmation about the level of discretion of shipping. Thank you all in advance!!!
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Lane, I`m curious as to how you know for sure what customs will do. 24roids has been in business for a long time and shipped thousands of packages so I trust how they do it. I`d estimate that over 95% of packages make it through — maybe more. I will 100% give you confirmation that you will be satisfied with 24roids no matter what happens. Buy with confidence. Thanks for the question
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Papi1266 User profile
I have to say I never worry about shipments not being as discreet as it needs to be from 24roids, I don`t believe you will have any issues, the boss have no making or anything on them they are just plain with a label.
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
If it becomes seized by customs don`t respond to the letter. Show 24roids the letter. They will make it right.
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RJB16 User profile
All of my packages have all come very well wrapped and also in a discreet box…
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Siggs User profile
They ship to the USA and all of mine have made it without a hitch. It is very discreet but I don`t know how your base works there own customs. Do they open the packages? If not then you will be fine. If they do find it just deny you ever ordered it. There is no proof that you ordered it. Anyone can order stuff and send it anywhere.
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Dan User profile Expert
All my packages came wrapped very nice and discreet. It`s just random luck that some get condigcsted. That said, military base is another thing. So I can`t speak about that.
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Okay I may just be mentally challenged with all this stuff since I`m just getting into this but… I was trying to figure dosage and how much I should order. I was prescribed test c when I was a freshman in college playing football by an absolutely amazing doctor but I havent taken anything since I was 19. I`m 25 now and I`m just now getting back into working out after tearing my ACL in the army. Im just wanting to get a kickstart back into it. I`m currently in Afghanistan as a civilian contractor and have a few questions. First off regarding dosage and how much is needed. If my math and what I`ve researched is correct I`ve found that just starting off I should do a total of 500mg/week (on the low end I know but right now I`m just wanting to cut). Since its 10ml vials and 1ml/250 mg that would be pinning 1ml 2x/week so for a 8 week cycle I should only need 2 vials?… idk it just doesnt sound right to me like I said I could just be mentally challenged with all over this..
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
You are correct you`ll have 2 weeks left over. I`d get the 10 bottles on the deals they have. It`s cheaper than pre workouts even test is. Well worth the money.
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RJB16 User profile
Your math is good and as stated you will have 2 weeks left over…
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MegaCycle User profile
500 isn`t on the low end of a beginner cycle, that`s 400-500 is normal for first cycle. Though 8 weeks is to short for a test e/c cycle. You should do 12 weeks or so. The first 4 weeks will be building up in your system. Also, you always want to have extra on hand. What happens if you drop a bottle and it breaks in the middle of your cycle? Make sure you place AI and PCT on hand as well. Have everything for during and after before you even start your first pin.
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Siggs User profile
You are correct. 2 ml is used per week and with only 8 weeks you would use a total of 16 ml`s. With 2 viles you would have 20 total and at the end you would have 4 left over. Might as well go to 10 weeks. Also do not forget some clomid for PCT and even think about HCG as well to use during cycle. It will keep the boys working and they won`t shrivel up during the cycle. Good luck and ask questions if you need answers. Just don`t assume.
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Dan User profile Expert
Many layers to your questions. First at 500mg per week so that means you are taking 2 ml per week. Is vial has 10ml. So each vial give you 5 weeks. So buy 2 vials. Second, you don`t need 500mg per week. 350mg or 400mg on your first cycle is final. Third, each vial has 10ml but each time you draw and pin you will lose some volume. Probably 0.2ml wasted. And lastly buy at least 5 do you get one free with the deal. You definitely can use them later cycles. Good luck
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Big Dogg User profile
Each vial is 10 ml. So 10 250mg injections. 2x/week 2vials will last 10 weeks. Dont do less than 10 weeks with a long ester. It wont fully “kick in”for 3 or 4 weeks. Get 3 vials run it for 12 weeks, you`ll have a little left. You`re really too young to be using AAS. Dirt, training and discipline you`ll make more sustainable gains. A doctor who prescribed a teenager testosterone is not “amazing”. He is a POS and an idiot. You would have to take at least 500mg/week just to have more than your body is already making at 19. Gains you make on exogenous test go away easily as you likely know. Not to mention all the other havoc it wreaks in your body.
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Did they stop shipping these in boxes? My last order was just glass vials wrapped in plastic. One arrived broken.
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Hiker001 User profile
Mine were also, in bubble wrap. They were all ok though. So far so good on quality.
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Drew User profile
There isn`t many labs on 24roids that ship with boxes but most of the time there bubble wrapped really well and come I`m perfect condition. Open a ticket with 24roids and they will replace your broken bottle.
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Dromeo User profile
I`ve received product in boxes, envelopes and wrapped in plastic. Take a picture of the broken vial and 24roids will replace it. No need to worry.
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JB205 User profile Expert
I`ve gotten some package in boxes and some just bubble wrap. I think it depends on where its shipped from and how big the order.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Bdie, this is definitely something to take a picture of and send to 24roids. Keep the packaging with the return address on it as well as they might ask for it. I`ve rarely had items from UGLs show up in a box. Thanks for the question
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Papi1266 User profile
Alot ofthe time just bubble wrap sometimes boxes too, if suspect contact 24roids
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For those that are better at this half life math than I am, can someone confirm that pinning 75mg per day of Test P is basically equal to pinning 525mg of Test C once per week? I was thinking that Test C has a half life of 14-16 days, so pinning every week keeps your “active” levels pretty close to 500mg and Test P only has a 2-3 day half life, so pinning 75mg per day would never get you more than 75-150mg “active” in your body. I`ve read the descriptions and I see that the recommended dosages for body building are 400mg to 800mg per week, but I`m just fuzzy on how the math works. Thanks for the help.
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Big Dogg User profile
It`s not half life math that you need, it is “ester math”. Your half life info is off though cyp has a half life of 4 or 5 days and should be injected 2x/week. Prop has about 84% testosterone and cyp has about 70%. You shouldn`t need 500mg/week of prop. I only use 350. 350 x .84 is 294 mg of actual test. 500 cup x .70 is 350 mg of actual test. If you`re using prop pin 3x/week or ED. For cyp or enan pin 2x/week. You should only need 50mg/day of prop.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
50 mg per day of test prop is fine dont worry about the math cuase it does nt work that way. What ever you inject per week is what it is that`s it.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Go to steroid calc website. You can put what steroid and what ester you are taking and they show you the half life of the compound in your system on a graph.
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novadesert007 User profile
The reason people go with Test E and C are their half life. Takes time to kick in and takes time to leave the body. Both Test E and C are every 5 days when you are cruising. No matter what dosage you are doing you want your blood to be stable as possible.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Some of y`all are wrong, the half life of test c is 8 days test e is 4.5 days this is why we do multiple injections with both to keep a higher “active life” or residence life in our system because after that half life period the active life drops in half
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Mr.Chow User profile
Testosterone Propinate is only effective for the first 36hrs maximum. Don`t be fooled. Pen everyday.
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I received this test C recently and also bought a test kit from a testing website. The substance in the bottle tested positive for testosterone, but the coloring was for Test P instead of Test C. I have no idea how accurate the testing kit is, but it seems pretty legit. My question is, if it is Test P, can I just adjust my routine to use it instead of Test C? I was planning on running 8-10 weeks of Test C at 250 per injection 2x per week.
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Ronald Bobby User profile
You can use it instead test is test test p just has a shorter half life so you will most likely need a injection eod
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey AC, you can adjust by pinning every day or every other day which will for sure keep blood levels more stable. I personally like to pin props every day. If you want 500mg/week then do about 70-75mg/day. I would take pictures of all your testing showing your results and present it to Aaster, 24roids and the testing company to see what they say. Maybe try the testing company first to confirm your theory before making a fuss with the manufacturer. Thanks for the question.
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Big Dogg User profile
On another forum I saw the same thing with Dragon test e from 24roids. You will know if its prop. It will kick in much faster. You wont need as much either. Prop has 84% testosterone and cyp has 70%. I usually run 350/week prop. I would contact 24roids and send them pics. Post back what happens. I dont know of the accuracy of the tests. Maybe contact roidtest and ask them.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
If you ordered it from here then it`s a 99 percent chance it is what you ordered color can change and differ s in every batch. Somtime a it can be the type of oil used. Assume it is what its supposed to be run it normally as you would of
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
You can tell after few days of dosing if it`s prop or not,thosetest are not accurate to the ester
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Barry Gibson User profile
Use it. Test p is a shorter half life. Both are the same. Only the ester is different.
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I amazed at the speed of responses. I can`t get my customer service people at work to have anywhere close to the passion that you guys have, or the expertise. A follow up question would be what is a good range to shoot for blood levels of testosterone? I fluctuate between 800 and 1300, but I have never tried to be consistent with timing on the blood tests. I may get one a day after an injection or 4 days after.
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Iron User profile
From my understanding accurate testosterone blood levels are seen after about 4 or 5 days of the last injection otherwise there will be a high spike if the blood test was done the following day giving a false reading. Somebody else should chime in to clarify this. Good luck man.
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GearHead User profile
Would say you are in a good higher that average range for sure if you are feeling good there then keep it that high
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey AC, it all depends on your goals, I guess. For people on TRT, I would think 500-800 would be great. For people looking to pack on serious freaky mass 4000+ would be the target. My TRT doctor`s blood work test only shows “Over 1000” and I`ve had that before. To be honest, I don`t feel any different when my levels are crashed or if they are over 1000 probably because I have other compounds keeping my androgens raised. You`re right about how so many factors can play into the reading at the time of blood draw and it`s difficult to get consistent readings. Thanks for the question.
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Drew User profile
Are you on trt or are these you levels on cycle. Good try level are anywhere from 600-1000 how ever if your on a cycle 1500 and higher is normal.
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Bswole User profile
3500 to 4000 is where i would want to be to put on some serious mass. Yeah the people at 24roids are great no other sites like 24roids i promise u that bro
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evan johnson User profile Expert
YEs the customer service at 24roids is unlike any other. Shoot for something between 800 and 1500 ideally while on cycle.
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I ordered 2 10ML vials from Aaster and plan to run my first blast at 500mg per week. I`ve been cruising on TRT for a year and a half, typically at 250mg per week. My doc varies that if my levels get to high. As I`ve been researching and reading reviews and answers on this site (thanks to all you experts out there) I`ve noticed that some people believe that some of the generic drugs (HGH specifically) are not as potent as what you`d get at a pharmacy. Will the Test C from Aaster be as potent as what I am getting from the pharmacy now, or will I need to up my dose to get the effect I want? Goals are to bust through some strength plateaus and look good naked. Thanks again for sharing your opinions, wisdom and knowledge.
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nickname_629 User profile
Testosterone is crazy inexpensive to make, and therefore almost never underdosed or faked. In fact, many ugl products are slightly overdosed.
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Drew User profile
Yes the aster products are very potent it will be or or less the same as the test cyp you get from the pharmacy. But I would say try it at 500 per week and if you feel it`s weaker just up it alittle bit.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
The compound is the same thing if anything itau be stronger pharma is exact to the mg and ugl is usually slightly over not much and from 24roids it`s good so no do not use more
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GainsVille_85 User profile
I’m running 150mgs every 5 days of MAHA pharma Test C and my levels were 1134ng/dL. I’d say the UGL stuff is GTG. Trust 24roids.
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Nathan Co User profile
You will get what you pay for at 24roids. They don`t have crappy brands or under dosed stuff. I`m running GP Test on top of my Rx test right now at 500mg total and can most definitely tell it`s just as good. Dose as you would Rx
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Mr.smith User profile
I`ve seen test showing products being over dosed not under. I remember specifically anavar 10mg being like 12-13mg when tested and it made me think women have to be careful with them because a max dose of 20 can turn into 25. Anyway, 250 seems high for trt but if the dr is gill monitoring you your gtg. I`m wondering how much benifit you will get from a 500 mg blast without another compound.
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Guess I`ll break it down I got 110 120 to spend what company will give me the best for my money since I don`t have a ton of money to spend and the MoneyGram I have never done that nethier but I had heard you can use a prepaid card to purchase crypto I would like to get that discount I still have to find cheap pins somewhere as well and shipping shipping shipping is the problem but yeah anyone just shoot me a good product on here for the money as far as test and I`ll get some arimidex as well just in case and I do train I have been in jail slot sadly so yeah I have done super hard 800 1000 pushup sets that take forever I have done a lot of different jail workouts and I still do it like that today at home they work that`s all I know anyway getting off track just a good product for the money thank you for answering guys
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RJB16 User profile
All depends on what you are looking for BM Pharma has a great sale going if you like amps, Geneza has always been good to me and love the gear. I see what you have to spend, maybe keep hitting the workouts and save and get yourself a nice stack to put you were you want…. good luck
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Gman User profile Expert
In my opinion dragon pharma is a good brand so geneza but dragon seems to have better prices on most products. Soo only a 100 bunch maybe just get 2 vials of test 350 or 2 vials of test cyp or enathate. Run it for 10 weeks with proper pct. Go get a gym member ship so you can get all the muscles. Shoukd be able to put on a decent amount of wieght as long as your diet is on point for your goals
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Cowboys20 User profile
Geneza and Dragon Pharma provide good deals and gear. If low on funds then stick to test only but you`ll need to run a PCT. As for cryptocurrency, 24roids provides discount. In my area we have ATM crypto machines that I purchase bitcoin. Check your area to see if they have machines. You`ll need to create a digital wallet first to transfer funds. Do research first. Good luck
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
there are literally half a dozen ways to get discounts on 24roids, this site is amazing. Go to my 24roids review and post a positive response on a site like Roidformum i think and send the URL to 24roids and bam you get a 20% coupon that you can use with bitcoin. I mean you probably cant answer too many questions responsibly but maybe voting questions shit like that just agree and get 2 bucks a pop. Another program I think its called the lifetime commission program and you can set up your own site on FB and 24roids will provide you with the banners and directions and you can opt to get paid in bitcoin 15% of anyone who orders through you I believe (you dont even have to spend it on 24roids!) I have on 3 separate occasions got 200$ in gear for the cost of shipping–25 bucks!! I have used many online sites and they are good, but 24roids is great! Go to the tab promotions and see which ones you qualify or are interested in. If you are trying to save money 24roids is amazing
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Swole1 User profile
Like dr scott said probably not many questions you can answer, being new and all. Like he said questions about voting come up a lot either agree and vote or disagree and suggest something else and get $2 try not to fill the air with bullshit but answer one or 2 questions a day and continue to train and get knowledge, the rewards credits dont expire and as you get more knowledge you will be able to answer more questions. This money builds up and there is no limit. you will have to pay shipping but you can go a long ways using 24roids promotions they really are great. keep an eye on product of the week and other sales. $100 is probably not enough for a proper cycle but if you pay attention and do your homework you can get 100`s of dollars worth of gear for a hundred bucks good luck
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Best value for your money? It has to be one of the Chinese shipped brands for sure. It will be same quality anyway. But listen, you shouldn`t go into gear without a decently sized wallet. Trust me on this.
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Ok got 120 best product for a test prop I know everyone says for your first stack ever test c or test a but sadly I was a heroin addict for over 13 years so I`m no rookie when it comes to needles been sober over 2 years by the way now but ok 120$ I still have to get pins and everything I`m still learning and researching everyday to understand as much as I can I have been on methadone for a while and I think it has surpressed my t I gained weight and all that and I want to look way better by the summer I live Michigan so winter is about here I want to look awesome by then but iam on a budget I don`t have a ton of money and I just want the most solid test on here as far as results potency the whole nine I asked some questions yesterday those who answered who guys were super helpful and thank you so much I want to learn as much as I can and train and just get beast and strong just healthy all around stats 6 3 260 doctor had said I`m a little over weight so I figure I should lean out but no so much lose size I started getting the dad bod lol I`m 31 by the way and with the Bitcoin thatd a whole nother monster I don`t get I need to prepaid cards somewhere just I never done it before and I don`t have a bank account nethier so I`m kinda doing all this on my own you guys are awesome by the way
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Swolebro User profile
Congrats on getting clean my man. Keep it up. Testosterone enanthate is my go to for test. I pin twice a week on monday morning and Thursday afternoon alternating between my left and right glute. 500mg in total per week. I`ve gained 25 pounds throughout my cycle so far. The most important thing to consider while trying to become a beast or whatever is your diet. Diet diet diet. Without healthy eating habits you`ll end up getting fat and messing up your liver. AAS only helps the body synthesize protein allowing it to build muscle mass quickly. Personally I would lose some weight first, hit the gym, and once you see you have the motivation and the dedication then hop on test. Make sure you have the money not only to afford testosterone, but also an AI (arimidex or aromasin) and something for your post cycle therapy to bring your test levels back to baseline (nolvadex and clomid). Steriods require hard training and dedication. You`re not going to take AAS and magically get big. Good luck.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Huh, lots there. Test is pretty much test just be aware of the different injection times and half lives. Good idea to stick with test only as you know nothing is ever like the first time, you spend the rest of your time chasing the gains you made on your first cyle. lol Plus as you move on you can slowly add different compounds one by one and see which one works best for you as an individual. Opiates, especially long term abuse can absolutely suppress your natural test production sometimes for years! I applaud you in your struggle and more about that in a bit. If you dont have a bank account that makes it a bit tougher for bitcoin but you can do it, I believe bitcoin atm. I have never done that and others can speak more intelligently about it. For know i would just use a money order MG or WU. I have used both and very easy just follow the directions. bitcoin is the way to go but maybe later. Exercise and positive gains can do wonders for someone in your position and I applaud you and understand the struggle is real. Finally all PED`s do lend themselves to a kind of psycological addiction, particularly to those prone like yourself. Just a caution to be aware of and guard against. don`t go crazy. keep asking questions and sort the bullshit from the truth. best of luck and stay sober brother. Respect
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RJB16 User profile
Hit the gym get your diet on point then go with Test E. It is a 2x a week and you will be good… good luck bro
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Matthew User profile
Normally I would not jump this advice but I think your state of mind is the more important thing to work on and that`s getting your confidence and positivity g outlook back in the game. I have friends that is locked up and cant seem to stay out. First all gear on 24roids are legit! You should wait for testE or testCyp on sale for product of the week. It will be around $24 for 10ml depends on brand. Buy a few and make sure you $25 for shipping. Since you already “muscle memory” you can get back in shape fast. Normally I would Test is not a magic pill but I hear you bro! So pin just 300mg a pin. Pin only once a week. Since you need to save money. Normal, you pin twice a week. Be a little patience bro. Wait 4-5 weeks and you will feel like you can workout for a long ass time. You alsho have a positive outlook in life. Ride that wave. Work. Eat. Sleep. Workout. Do this for 14 weeks. Take a break. Start pct after on week 16week. It`s sucks but you need to be patience. Summer will come and you will be ready buddy!!
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Awesome job getting clean and recovering! Like the others are saying, test is test….different esters don`t equal (shouldn`t) different results. Any of the pharms on here are good to go…since you are on a budget, you should consider waiting until Test becomes the product of the week and you can get it 50% off…test usually gets voted in once every 4 – 5 weeks. Good luck man
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mchilds User profile
First off, any test will do. I say test C or E. Do about 4-500mg a week for 8-12 weeks with a pct. I recommend to most people in here look for a local bitcoin atm. You can google and find one. I know there are many in Michigan depending on your location. Then you can purchase bitcoin with cash and they will print out a paper receipt with your unique code to send to 24roids to pay. It`s that easy. They call that a “paper wallet”. Just let us know if you have anymore questions. 5 years sober myself. Congrats, one day at a time!
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Which carrier oil do they use in this compound? Tried sesame seed oil test cyp got intense pip on thigh for 5 days couldn`t walk lol.Thanks guys.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
I think MCT oil but will need others to confirm that
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SteveC User profile
Aaster is the only brand I will ever use again, and I can confirm they use MCT oil. Aaster is by far and away the best year on this site in every possible way imo. Love their shit.
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Drew User profile
Mct oils is what aster uses I believe.
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gsockz User profile
I believe it`s mct oil that I read somewhere while I was doing a lot of research awhile back. Good luck and pip is no joke
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nickname_543 User profile Expert
Its pharma grade MCT oil, a lot of ugls are using it. By the way the pip is usually caused by concentration. The thigh is little bit tricky too, try delts to see if causes the same pip
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Fit_mom User profile
Make sure your hitting the quad and not the it band. Try the glute as it is easier to pin. Good luck
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Need advice: I`m 37 5`10 180lbs 10%bf and looking to start my 3rd cycle and put on 20lbs or more. i haven`t done a cycle in about 3 years. my diet is healthy about 4000 calories a day and workout about 6 days a week. 1st cycle was superdrol, 2nd was 600mg test c and 40mg d bol a week. i was wondering if this would be a good 3rd cycle? 15 week cycle 500mg Test C or E a week, 200mg Deca a week, 25 mg Anadrol week 1, 50 mg week 2, 100 mg week 3 and 4. 0.5 EOD Arimidex or 12.5 EOD Aromasin. 500iu HCG a week. PCT:Clomid 100/100/50/50. Nolva 40/40/20/20. Also wondering if I should add Sustanon 250mg week or switch out Deca for it? Please let me know. Thanks so much!Johnny
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Myop1 User profile
I dont see the need for the sus. You got 600 test already of which i prefer cyp.
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B dizzle User profile
This is a great cycle for gaining mass. I personally would rather tbol or anadrol over dbol. I just ran some dbol with test e I gained 17lbs in 5 weeks but it was allot of water weight that`s dbol for u. Good luck with your cycle 88
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KTUCK User profile
Looks pretty solid but if you already ran test c at 600 the. I would keep it there and maybe increase deca to 400mgs 250mgs of deca is theraputical dose and if you get good results of dbol them I would stick with that anadrol is harder to control sides as it does not convert. But acts on the estrogen resptors from a different mecanisim so arimidex or aromisin won`t help sides from amadrol and it`s harsher on the liver then amadrol keep orals at 4 to 6 weeks max so imo test at 600 mgs deca 400 mgs and dboll 40 mgs would be a better fit for you or if you insist on androl start at 50mgs and have nolvadex for amadrol estrogen prevention
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Thomas Bauman User profile
Sust is the same as testosterone cyp or enanthate, so no point in substituting that for Deca. Nandrolone works great for many, but it runs the risk of prolactin based sides and long term libido shut down months or YEARS after cessation. For these two reasons, I would steer clear of Deca, NPP, etc. If you havent cycled in years, just run another test + dbol cycle – you have virgin receptors again. If you instist on trying another compound, I would look into Boldenone aka equipoise.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Looks like a fun cycle to me. Watch out for the Anadrol when Deca starts to perform its magic. Seen some people get slapped with some rather ugly sides. So, stock up on they cycle support arsenal. You won`t need the Sustanon here. Instead, buy Cabergoline. Taking Caber with any Nandrolone is like having your dick give you a high 5 while telling his friends that you`re the man!
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nickname_458 User profile
Ran this one with test e 500 mg, Deca 500 mg and Dbol 40mg for first 4 weeks. Loved it, drol would be fun to, just limit to 4-5 weeks. Deca will be doing its job by then. Yep caber is awesome when on nandrolones, I swear my organs are way more intense while on it. Yep, like a dick high five…lmfao!
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I`ve been searching online for lab results of this specific lab and haven`t been able to come up with anything concrete. I always try to look for updated lab results when I buy new products.My last cycle, I was using enanthate. The bloat was outrageous, even with proper nutrition, training and supportive supplements. I`d like to check the quality of this product and if anyone has any resources that proves it`s authenticity, I`d love to see it. It`s time to switch from enanthate.Thanks!
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Scott User profile
It was mostly likely due to your estro levels with the water retention. Did you run an AI? I’ve also noticed running Dandelion root helps me with water retention. Test E and C are so similar, and switching from E and C shouldn’t change the bloating issue. I switch between both often and have not had an issue. Test is test.
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Fit_mom User profile
You may want to look closer at your diet. Do you use the FODMAP list? Many foods that are good for growing muscle can lead to bloat as well. Our bodies are constantly changing as we age. Some foods may not bother you this year but next year those same foods may cause issue.
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Acfit User profile
Aaster has gotten good reviews and has been in 24roids for a while. Their products are good to go. But I totally agree with the Scott. If you’re bloating, it’s because your estrogen levels are too high and making you retain water. Enanthate and Cyp are interchangeable with minimal differences other than half life being a tad longer on Cyp. Test is Test. Some people are more susceptible to sides than others and it also depends on how much you’re taking. Def take an AI with your next cycle. .25mg -.5mg of anastrozole twice a week to start.
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YD1 User profile
Hello, Anthony. Welcome. I dont blame you for wanting proof. Some products here have it and some dont. From what I see the heavy compounds that are more faked/counterfeited out there have lab reports here at 24roids. Testosterone wont usually have one because it is very cheap to make and not often faked. All I can say that I am living proof and many others here at 24roids. Im in TRT and every month I get a vial of Test C prescribed from my primary doc but Ive decided to buy from 24roids because its much cheaper than Walgreens and of course I want to do in higher amounts to bulk up. I`m now in Test Enathate from 24roids and save my pharmacy stuff for a rainy day. And I can 100% say that my lab results are great showing my test levels up in 2ks and of course my bad cholesterol up and my good down just as any legit testosterone will produce. If you would like go ahead and contact 24roids and ask if there is any resent test lab reports for it or you can contact dragon pharma directly through there web site and ask them. Good luck bud.
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N88 User profile
This is a good product. What was your estrogen levels? I`d get those checked next time you feel bloated. An AI can keep those sides in check
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
Aaster is new here but people who used their products have only good things to say about them. If you are not sure you can go with gp or dragon.
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For muscle building, what injectable steriod can you pair with Cypionate?I am on cypionate for low test, so i would like to stack that with something else in the same needle. What would you suggest? Thanks
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Nathaniel Hall User profile
For pure muscle mass gain, I’d say Deca is by far the most popular compound. It also lubricates your joints so that’s a plus if you have any joint pain. If the side effects of deca are too much for you, then EQ is also a good option. Slap dbol or anadrol with it and you have a nice little stack. best of luck
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D-man User profile Expert
There is a whole candy store. It really depends on your goals and experience. For your first blast, you could just increase your testosterone dosage to 500mg per week injected at 250mg twice per week. This would give you huge gains on its own. After you gain experience, you could throw in some other compounds. Deca will be good for mass. drostanolone is a good one to mix in as it will help make the other gear you take work better, it also helps with controlling estrogen. Experiment around, once you do plenty of research, and have a few cycles under your belt and feel comfortable with everything, you even throw in some Tren.
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ViktorN User profile
If you are on trt already. Your body is already sensitize with Cyp. You up the dose to 250mg every 3 days to keep it simple. That’s a little over 500mg (660mg a week;7 days) And like our expert Dman stated increase in dosage will get you going without anything else. But imo I love EQ. It has always gave me strength and size including vascularity. So if muscle is what you want then stack your Cyp with EQ (100mg per pin). Some even suggested lower dose ofEQ. EQ takes awhile to kick I. But it’s on “Its on like donkey Kong!” ;). Your stamina increase. Your endurance increase. Meaning Increase length of time you can exert yourself and the amount of load you can push yourself! It give you that extra push to get in a few rep which in turns tear more muscle and you grow big. EQ is very low In sides especially at that concentration. You just need to worry about Cyp. So get a hold of tamoxifen and clomid for your gyno and pct.
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John Smith User profile
There are a lot of options. You never mentioned your goals and how much do you want to bulk up. You can use either deca(200-400mg/week), eq(300-500mg/week) or small dose of tren-e(200/week). Deca works but bloats you up, Eq works but takes a long time to build up in your system, Tren if you can handle the side effects is the most potent.
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B Rad User profile Expert
As a first step in stacking anabolics boldenone is a great option since its low side effect, gives good results, and makes you feel good at the same time. You could add anywhere from 400-600 mg of boldenone to your testosterone per week and youll probably be very happy with it. If you want more dramatic results then deca is also a great compound and youll add even more muscle than with the boldenone but you might hold a little bit more water.
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Tren Man User profile
Pretty much all the answers are spot on. I would agree first just bump up the Test C you are already taking then add different compound that have been mentioned in other answers.
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What anti estrogen should be used for 1 ten week cycle of cypionate @ 250ml twice a week?
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Sam
1mg anastrozol every other day works for me.
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Roidman
That should be fine. Or 25mg exemestanum every day. It is less economical but mood is much better on exe rather than on anastrazol.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Arimidex at .5mg everyday or Aromasin at 12.5 mg everyday since they both have a half life of 24 hours, or if your really worried run letro at 1.25 mg eod running anything over 300 mg of test puts your body at risk for high aromatization of any excess test your body doesn’t use, to mitigate any estrogenic effects make sure an ai is continuously active in your system.
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
Choosing the right anti-estrogen can be daunting. Arimidex is a good starting point. However dialing in the appropriate dose is another story due to the half life of the drug. For that reason I tend to steer towards Aromasin. It`ll cost a few dollars more, but it`s well worth it. The half life is shorter but you don`t have to worry about estrogen rebound. Also your lipid levels will show an improvement