Can I run this with tren . Or should I mix this with something else
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LivetoLift User profile
What is the EQ 200 essentially I saw this and I`m now and figured I would ask?
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Zilla User profile
Boldenone
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
You can, but understand EQ is a long ester. I would run EQ no less than a 16 week cycle. If you wanted to run tren too, I would add Tren for the last 8 weeks of this. The EQ will help offset the effects tren has on cardio.
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Zilla User profile
Yes you can. Eq has to be ran at 600+ mg/ wk to be most effective and with this mix that would put your test at 600 as well which, for me, would be a bit high. Also eq should be ran for a min of 16 wks.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
The blend is god by themselves friend! But i would recommend you get another bottle of EQ on it own since i run EQ a little higher than test. My stack is test 500mg and EQ 600mg a week. You should not run tren until you have a lot of experiences with cyclings. AND you know you responded to gear like gyno, elevated estrogen, prolactin, even test recovery. In other words, you pin tren after you cycle with nandrolone, EQ, etc first. Tren is the strongest steroid out there and it also has the strongest side effects! mentally and physical side effects. EQ/test is a great stack that will get you great result. Good luck friend and don`t forget to vote.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
You can run Tren with that no problem. But what are your goals, stats and cycle history? There`s more than one way to run them all together and more background info would help people provide more specific advice to help. Good luck bro.
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B-trained User profile
You can run Tren with anything but if you`ve never used Tren before I would ease into it so you can see how you handle the sides. Good pinning my friend.
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jamesPrewitt User profile
From my experience running test and EQ together is fine EQ needs to be ran a lot longer so for the tren don`t mess with it until you`re ready to cut up the last four or five weeks but be careful which ran start with acetate that way you know is that your body can react to it some people have a horrible experience on it but don`t let that scare you cuz that`s only like 2080 there`s a very few people that do but a lot of them bill and don`t ever go over 500 mg a week keep it at that you don`t need that sells powerful you don`t need that much actually one 250 mg. What do you come off cycle. And don`t use very much of it cuz it`s very powerful hope to help you buddy you can also run EQ for 16 you can almost run of the year add small reasonable doses don`t run you know 800 to a gram in a week
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Would this be a good item to start with? What does this do? Thanks
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Bob Johneser User profile
Yes! Its two of my favorites! Test gives power and muscle gain, eq is good for lean gains and endurance with less side effects. Great combo. Keep post cycle therapy in mind so you dont crash your natural Test and loose your gains. Good choice, good luck!
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NWA User profile
Hi can you give me a little more info on how much i should take and how often? Thanks so much. Appreciate it
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
I would pin twice a week that`s 400 mg each also eq takes a little longer to show effects so it`s best to run this for 15 weeks some will go 20 week. If you decide to go longer then 15 you could up it to 3ml per week that`s 600mg each. Its bot in common. But you should get great gains from just 2ml per week 15 weeks minium. Good luck
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NWA User profile
The last thing I did was 300 test & 200 tren together. Would you recommend i do that again or try this one? Sorry for all the questions. Appreciate your help.
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nickname_311 User profile
If it was me I would just start with either test e or test C for 500mg a week run that for 12 weeks
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NWA User profile
That seems like a lot. Are you able to recommend one on this site i can purchase? Thanks
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Just run Test E or Test C for your first cycle. If you run Eq with it and experience anxiety, you won`t know if its the test or EQ doing it. Test only should be first cycle so you learn how much AI you need as well.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
What is up Easy-E!! EQ/Test is my favorite cycle!! low sides with great result but it takes a long ass time to run. My cycles are 20 weeks average. But you need to buy another bottle of EQ to add to the mix/blend. Test 500mg and EQ 600mg is my sweet spot. EQ will blow you up or lean you out. it depends on your diet. Overall it give you stamina, strength, and vascularity! It produces a lot of rbc so this is why you get lots of veins. This in turn help carry nutrients especially oxygen so you can do things for a long time and not be tire. al this but minimum sides. It`s consider to be a dry gear since it doesn`t aromatize much. But if you are new to the game, just pin test only at 500mg a week for 12 weeks and see how your body react to gear. make sure to get your ancillaries before you start. And most important get your diet dial in. After a few cycles you will be transformed! Remember this is a lifestyle and it takes time so be patient brother! Good luck and please do not forget to vote.
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NWA User profile
So if i were to do 500mg a week of test, and I buy test 250, I`d do it twice a week? Also how much in the needle per dose? Thanks
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
You can estimate to lose about 0.1ml of gear everyone you pin. You prolly pin with a 25g 1″ needle so not much in the shaft of the needle. The hub fit on the syringe tip so they are the same (fitting on top of one another) so that’s the biggest pocket of none displace area. The plunger, especially the BD syringe should have no space and therefore has no oil left. All together you will lose 0.1ml of gear per pin. After 10 pins you lose 1ml. Keep in mind each bottle might not have a full 10ml in them as well. So planning accordingly. i also but one extra bottle just in case. I hope the answer your question buddy! And don’t forget to vote.
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DrGray User profile
You know what is even cheaper? Testosterone! Cheapest cycle to run and perfect for beginners. 500mg/wk test e or cyp. I guarantee it will do exactly what you`re hoping to accomplish with your test/eq blend! Also consider this a plus, you already know what you want for you next cycle! lol good luck brother!
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i typically run test and deca only cycles with good results. i was thinking of running test e at 600mg/wk and eq at 600mg/wk with deca at 500mg/wk for 16 weeks with an oral kick start. thoughts on this cycle for adding size and muscle for this bulk
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Will1 User profile Expert
Sorry to sound cliche here, but the size and muscle will depend on your diet, training, and recovery. This cycle has the compounds to really grow and get strong. You just need to have your other variables dialed in. My other recommendation would be not to use the oral as a kick starter. Use it during your cycle when all the compounds are fully kicked in and you hit a plateau on your lifts. The oral will be a plateau buster and allow you to continue progressing while all the compounds are built up and running in your system. That method as worked very well for me.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Yes! Brother Will is right! If you don’t eat you ain’t getting big. If you don’t eat clean your gain ain’t going to be clean. So eat caloric access to gain mass. You eat clean yo get quality muscle. This goes with leaning out as well. Caloric deficit to cut. So it’s all about your diet. Hope i made my point… Or Will’s point.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Not necessary for gain brother! Either go with deca or EQ but not both. Deca is wet gain while EQ is dry. Deca get you big quick while EQ takes forever to get you big but the gain is good dry quality gain!! Some of your deca gain is water while EQ are mostly red blood cells!!! hahaha just joking! EQ makes lots of rbc and therefore give you vascularity to transport the rbc which this help with carrying oxygen and the result is stamina and endurance. This is why i love EQ! strength, stamina, vascularity and the awesome dry look with muscle striation. Crazy shit! š So i recommend 500mg test and 600mg EQ with a tbol kickstart at 16to 20 weeks OR 500mg test and 300mg or 400mg deca with a dbol kickstart for 10 to 12 weeks cycle. Dry cycle versus wet cycle. Good luck buddy! And don`t forget to vote so a brother can eat! š
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BoogieMan User profile
Will1 is correct. The only thing I would slightly disagree with is an oral kickstarter. If this is a 4month cycle you can use a mlider oral for a kickstart, for example turinabol 4 weeks. And then after a break of 4-7 weeks if need be, you can use another one to make it works as a plateu buster. But this time for example dbol or superdrol or anadrol. With several weeks break between orals your liver will be fine and your cycle even better. Also, if you want to join test e, deka and EQ you might wanna have a look at onther of Aaster`s blends. They exactly that combination of compounds in Extreme Mass Gain. Good luck bro!
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anonymous_1212 User profile
Hello Little, How are ya man? If you run a cycle of 600T/600EQ/500ND/?oral Yes, You will gain mass and due to the ND it will be quite a bit of water. IMO that if your diet is not on point, that will coincide with your training regimen, and that most of all, they must be complemented by Rest, quality rest at that. I recommend for a diet up until the 12th week (16 week cycle) or the 16th week (20 week cycle) combining carbs, fats and proteins together for 5 small meals ED to get the bulking state ramped up. I would also choose a day off of eating just to give the gut a break (i do fasting very often to give those muscles a much needed break from this life). For an oral kick start to your cycle I would choose Turinabol at 40 MG ED for 5 weeks, by then the injectables will kick in and you will be off on your bulk cycle. I also suggest finishing the ND early in the cycle then add in Anavar for the last 5 weeks to complement the 600T and 600EQ. Also, please watch your BP because you will be retaining water and then adding in EQ will increase the RBC that will further add to your internal volume. Remember to always have: liver support, AI, Cabergoline, and all PCT needs before you embark on another journey. Let me know if this helps and I hope it does! Stay healthy, safe and live well bro! Remember to vote for Q&A and POTW! Reply if you need to ask more.
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
I would recommend something more like 600 test 900 EQ 300 deca for 16 weeks. EQ needs to be run high for good results and thats a long time to be running moderate test/deca and could run into estrogen related sides. 300 deca should suffice.
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PunchNpie User profile
Absolutely agree with you here. I ran a very similar cycle last year and it was my best one yet.
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ok so im asuming this 10 ml vial contains 200mg test e and 200mg eq per ml? so if im taking a shot twice a week with each pin containing 1 1/2 ml i will be taking 600mg of test e and 600mg of eq ?
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
That`s correct friend!! I usually buy a separate eq vial and add another 100mg to the syringe. I pin 500mg testE and 600mg EQ a week. that`s my sweet spot! But 600/600 is good too but watch out for test conversion but 600mg is not high. Good luck brother! Don`t forget to vote.
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Little User profile
can you help me understand test conversion. thank you
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
testosterone converting to estrogen using a process called aromatization. Some guys has a propensity to convert test to estrogen even at low exogenous test. While other line me don’t convert test to estrogen until i start pinning 800mg a week. If you do convert, then you just need to take AI (aromatase inhibitor) called Arimidex. When you have too much estrogen you experience emotional imbalance like irritability, short fuse, retain water like bloating, erectile dysfunction, and many more. But sad part is that you Do need some estrogen so if you kill all your estrogen (too little) with AI then you experience same side effect as having too much estrogen. So you just need to know your sensitivity with whether you convert test to estrogen and what degree. This takes experience through many cycles. Hope that’s clear friend! Good luck and duct forget to vote.
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EQhead User profile Expert
Correct. 200mg of each component per ml. So if you`re taking 3ml a week it`ll come out to 3 x 200mg = 600mg of each. I ran EQ at the beginning of the year for 20 weeks and got great vascular gains. Enjoy. Cheers!
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Branko User profile
Yes! And that is the exact blend and dose I am taking right now.
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BoogieMan User profile
Yes, exactly. Your calculation is correct bro.
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B-trained User profile
That is correct sir, Happy Pinning.
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Has anyone else had major burning pain when pinning if so is there a way to mitigate this.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Yes, it happens when i use blends plus high dose. Currently i am running 400mg per ml of test sustanon and EQ. Yes together it is 400mg/ml! pip like a mofo! 2 pins ago there a knot and sore but it`s no longer there with no pain. Lasted for 3 days. Yesterday pin there would pip but no knot no sore just a little irritation. But sight is black and blue the size of a nickel. So usually blend cause pip especially high concentration. Try warming the bottles up before you draw them out and pin. As the gear enter your muscle immediately it could crystallized (short esters) and give pip. Warm bottle up and maybe it will help, a little! Good luck! Don`t forget to vote.
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JohnMcMahon User profile
Thank you for the assist!!! Its been hell with pip with this blend. I appreciate it!!!
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
The thing is is it`s so dense that it gonna hurt 400mg for I ml is alot. Yes it can burn it will hurt for a few days the only thing you can do is pun twice a week at 1/2 ml or mix it with other compounds your pinnung to thin it out but basically it is what it is
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Has anyone else had major burning pain when pinning if so is there a way to mitigate this.
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Jogger User profile Expert
Yeah bro 400mg per ml is a bitch and hurts a lot sometimes, don’t worry bro take care
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
It is very common for high mg oils to give some PIP. You can try using insulin needles and pinning more often to help, as if you pin everday the amount you pin would be decreased. I use a Test 350 blend and pin everyday so it`s only 0.2 or 0.3 daily.
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nickname_311 User profile
Just inject slowly very slowly it takes me about a minute to inject so I do not have any pain. It sucks having a needle in your arm or your but for that long but that`s the biggest way I have found not to have pain. Moo
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Ok so I am going to stick with this mix what else should I include in my basket for estrogen blocker and something to ensure my balls don`t shrink? Thank you
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KnickerB User profile
This is a small does for an estrogen blocker. If you really need add something, add an oral like winstrol or anavar.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
2ml a week is good for that stuff. Anastrolzolo or armidex .5mg 2 or 3 days a week depending if your sensitive
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Michael Vasquez User profile
It all depends how you react to it and your weekly dosage. I take 500mg of test and my balls are fine no shrinkage but you can add some hcg if it happens to you.
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RecoveryProject User profile
You will want to take arimidex .5mg with each pin and then you can add more if you have any side effects that come up. Also you will want Nolva, and, or Clomid. I use both, some people use one or the other. Best wishes
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
HCG for the balls, aromasin or Arimidex for the estrogen. This is a basic question which makes me wonder you`re experience. If you`re ew, just do test only.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Yes, HCG. plan on taking 250iu twice per week, starting in week three through the end of the cycle.
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Dan User profile Expert
pin hcg at 250iu twice a week three out your cycle. ai take when needed and serm Nolva if you feel gyno.
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Redpill User profile
Your balls probably won`t shrink much at all on that dose . But ya add in some tamoxifen or clomid , and if you really are worried about ball size get some hucog pre mixed hcg .
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Htown User profile
Hcg 250mcg 2x a week for ball shrinking and armi for an AI.
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Is this mix with EQ 200 an HGH or steroid. if not what is a good testosterone HGH mix out there.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
There is no hgh and test mix mainly because hgh doesn`t last more than 3-4 weeks after reconstituted and mixed with bac water where test usually mixed with oil. You have to buy them separately.
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RecoveryProject User profile
Hello Glen, Testosterone and GH are completely two different categories of meds. Once a steroid, the other is an amino acid. There is no “blends” of test and HGH. Test has to be put into an oil base, where HGH can reconstituted with a water base. The two should not be drawn into one vial and injected. Inject oils with oils, and waters with waters. You can get Test E and also get HGH if you would like. Buy them separately and use them both. Best wishes.
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Tsidorick User profile
The gear your describing is testosterone Enanthate 200mg & EQ 200 mgs per 10ml which means if you pull up 1 unit in your point that`ll be 200 testosterone Enanthate & Equipoise each. Niether one is a HGH THEY ARE BOTH STEROIDS. I am not sure if you have HGH but if I was you I would hold off because you don`t want to put too much in your body until you finish a cycle of at least 10 weeks weeks
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Anonymous 01 User profile
The guys above said it all. Two different categories of compounds.
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Dan User profile Expert
this is a premixed testE and EQ. there`s no hgh in it and there`s no other steroids mix w hgh. i don`t think hgh and aas can be mix at all.
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loukia User profile Expert
There is no hgh test mix this is equipoise and test, do some research bro before you do something you regret, stay safe
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Will User profile Expert
HGH doesn`t get mixed with steroids. This is testosterone and EQ. The product description will tell you about the dose in this mix and a little more detail on the compounds. If you`re just starting with steroids, this won`t be something for you to take. Testosterone alone is what you take for a first and second cycle.
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Just curious, I`m trying to avoid delays. Where is geneza shipped from? What brands are not shipped from China? It`s going on 40 days on some dragon products. Thanks
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pat User profile
I live in Europe and it just shipped from netherlands
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Shipping User profile Expert
Best option to order European brands. Fastest shipping
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
I`m pretty sure that it`s shipped from Europe
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
The delays should be close to over. The products with shipping delays are all coming soon or out of stock. I`ve ordered plenty from various places and only 1 dragon product was delayed. Aaster ships pretty fast though if they have what ya need. GP is close as well.
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Jd D User profile
It from China use the European brands they all r go to goi used maxstreme and they are on schedule
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Big Jake User profile
Geneza ships along with Dragon. I just had Geneza and Dragon orals delivered today that were ordered 2/6
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Been running this for 3 weeks now and every injection has the worst PIP I have ever had 10 days each injection site. I have run GP test and eq separate before and never had pain like this. Any suggestions?
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Super Dad User profile
This is normal when using mixed blends. it`s honestly why a lot of us avoid them. but you do get your bang for your buck. if I was you I would warm the area the hot rag on a heat pad and use an insulin syringe also you can spread out your pins maybe even go daily less oil less pip.
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novadesert007 User profile
I am sure you got all the sterile down. Pip could be caused by concentration of mixture. This mix is actually not bad, maybe your body just no use to it yet. You could cut the oil and dilute it. You can find them online videos everywhere. Other than that glutes all the way. Get a massage gun to make the muscle absorb it better. Good luck
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mixalhs patsalou User profile
Yeah man that’s usually the case with mixed esters, suck it up bro and try to pin with higher gauge and go slow
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Drew User profile
I would try and inject as slow as you can and try to inject into your glues and shoulders not you legs if you have been or not i dunno.
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Pookie User profile
Try a different site. What size needle are you using? The least PIP is glutes 1.5″ depth. You can try warming it a little under hot water, injecting slower….1 minute per injection, massaging the area and using less MLs.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Maybe try a different size needle or a longer one. You didn`t mention needle size
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When will geneza replenish there stocks? Theyre out of almost everything.
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ThePony User profile
Normally takes a few weeks.
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John User profile
It can be a week or a month.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Popular labs like geneza here on 24roids typically restock within 2-4 weeks and most of if not all of their products will be back in stock.
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Nathan Co User profile
I`m guessing it won`t be until after that Chinese New Year thing. It`s like 2 weeks long but I`m not sure of the dates. Google it.
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Dennis Morrill User profile
It could be a while. I see just about everything is out of stock across the board, unless its made in Europe. Most of this stuff is made in China. The Coronavirus could have us scrambling for a bit. I sure hope not, I let me supply of Test E dwindle. We`ll all be keeping an eye open for it.
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Bearcan1 User profile
Agree, Geneza is my favorite lab on 24roids. Please reload š
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I have a bottle of Test E 250 and a bottle of Sust 350. I`m planning on running 500 mg Test E a week for 5 weeks and 600 mg Sust a week for 5 weeks. Or should I stack them together, 1/2 cc of each twice a week. I also have a blend of 200 Test E/200 EQ, that was going to be my original plan but the other bottle of TestE/EQ blend broke during shopping. Or can I incorporate that bottle into my 10 week cycle?
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Bobby User profile
If that bottle broke or has any damage, do not use it! Absolutely not. Your playing with broken shards of glass and that can kill you. As far as cycling with two esters, I do it. I start with the Sustanon to take advantage of the quicker Propionate. Since I`m using 500mg a week and pin 2 x a week, the bottle lasts 5 weeks. At week 4, I start using half a cc of Sustanon and half of Test E. That lasts 2 weeks and Whois me transition
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Is this first cycle? I would just do test e 400mg a week split in 2 doses then when its empty do the sustanon 500mg a week max, good luck and save eq for next cycle
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YD1 User profile
Hey bud. Juat do the testE. You dont want to risk any microscopic glass in the solution. People do buy a .22 syringe filter from Amazon and filter it into another bottle, but to be honest its just not worth it. Good luck.
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skitt User profile
All depending on the Brand of Susta you could swing something.. IF its Para Pharma or Dragon Pharma Susta then the make up of both those compounds are 200 mg Enethate 100 mg cyp and 50 mg Prop…again IF your susta is from either one of those labs I would pin the susta twice a week on monday and thursday at ,5 ml each shot that would give you 350 mg for 10 weeks.. At the same time with the same shots I would add the Enethate at .25 a ml per shot which will give you 125 mg for the week… with a grand total of 475 mg per week for 10 weeks.. I would have to do the math to figure out how much Enethate you will have left at the end of 10 weeks BUT it should be enough to carry you over for another 2 more weeks giving you a 12 week Test cycle.. Once the susta was gone at the 10 week mark I would just continue last 2 weeks with the Enethate BUT ONLY IF YOUR SUSTA ARE THE ESTERS I mentioned earlier.. If its regular Susta blend with 4 esters then I would either get more Test E or Susta 350 so you dont mix the two cause level would be a little wonky with all the different esters… good luck
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
I would just run the test. For EQ, 10 weeks is very short and you need to front load EQ. You won`t really feel anything from the EQ until you`re already done using it and it`ll be gone. If you want to run an EQ cycle, plan at least 12 weeks with 800-1200 for the first two weeks and then 400-600mg each week after. The way you describe the Test/EQ makes me believe you have only 1 bottle of it and 200mg a week will do absolutely zero for you. I would just stick to the Test. Depending what Sust brand you have, I would start with the Sust then transition to the Test E. Make sure to do your match correct and have plenty of AI on hand.
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mchilds User profile
Just save that single bottle of EQ Mix for next time. If it truly was broken in shipping from 24roids you can request a replacement from 24roids. But in the years I`ve been ordering off here I haven`t had a broken vial once. But then again I almost exclusively order GP so I know it`s going to be shipped properly with the correct gear. As for the test I would start off with the Sust to get the benefit of the short acting ester kicking in quick and then switching over to the test E for the end to allow the long sust ester to taper off. It can take a good month or more for Sust to get out of your system. That`s why I like to always finish the last few weeks of my cycles with Prop. Otherwise you might be starting PCT before your long ester test is even out of your system. Just my two cents.
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My order showed shipped then about a week later it said it was in San Francisco. I was excited, the next day it said in transit to destination. Today it`s saying it`s back in Malaysia, I`m a little nervous about it. Has anybody had this happen to them? Should I be worried?
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Jared User profile
I have never had that happen, it could just be a glitch in their tracking system. Worst case if you don`t see it soon, contact 24roids and see what they say about it. From my understanding of you don`t get it in 4 weeks, they`ll reship it again
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Manster User profile
unfortunately this is not unheard of with the tracking system. I wouldn`t be too concerned, but I would contact 24roids and let them know what`s going on just in case. Either way, 24roids will get you taken care of. They`re definitely the best at customer service.
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YD1 User profile
Whats up bud. Seriously never had that happen to me personally but I`ve heard of it happening to some people in aas boards. You must contact 24roids asap so they can check on this asap! Good luck bud.
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EDubz User profile
I havnt jad this happen to me, but I would imagine it`s an error on tje tracking system, id its not stuck at customs, I wouldnt be worried
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Mr.smith User profile
I had a package go all over the place for a month. It was dragon pharma and they put the address on wrong. I had to track it, call the facility where it was and they went out, physically found the package and fixed the address for home so it would come to my house. It went all up and down the east coast for a month.
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K.D.T User profile
There could have ben a mistake with the address that caused it to be returned to sender this happened to me one before opem a ticket 24roids will fix it
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So I am going to run 2.5ml a week split in two shots 1.25ml each..Being 500test e and 500eq..is this good or should I get a bottle of test e and run it higher than the EQ? For 16weeks
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SteveC User profile
Actually, if anything, I would run the EQ higher than the test. However, 1:1 ratio is good as well. That`s what I used for my first time ever using eq. Btw, you will absolutely love EQ as long as you do a long cycle with it, absolutely no shorter than 12 weeks (should be 16 really). I got some insane gains from my first ever cycle of test and eq, eq is one of my favorite compounds for bulking because it increases my hunger to a ridiculous level. Enjoy the cycle!
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Personally I would buy them separately so I can control the dosages of each independently. Even if it seems perfect at first something can change where I would want to take out long ester test E, for example. 500 of each is a good weekly dosage — maybe even 600 eq / 500 test. 16 weeks is a good amount of time. Check steroid calc dot com to see blood levels and just how slow eq is to stabilize. Good luck and thanks for the question PRIMO FOR POTW
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nickname_483 User profile Expert
Buy separate vials. Eq has to be run on high doses and works better when front loaded, you can`t do that in a mix vial plus you never know if they got the ratio right on the mix oils
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
I think that sounds like a very good cycle especially if itās early on in your steroid using profile. You could always buy some extra Test E and EQ in case you wanted to run it at 500/600 or if you wanted to stop the EQ a week earlier than the Test E which I recommend due to the longer ester in EQ. That way you have to wait two weeks and not three to begin your PCT. But if you have to this is not a bad cycle.
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.50 caliber User profile
i would buy vial of eq and go to 600 m,g or a little more
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Matthew User profile
EQ is ran higher than TestE. But if you don`t have an EQ on it own than no worries. TestE EQ even is fine but most guys run eq higher. And your calculation is correct. Now see??? If you vote for EQ500 you can draw another 0.1mL and that will give you 600mg if eq per week. š
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Deca at 500mgs a week OrEQ at 500mgs a week for 12weeks
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
I vote EQ all day and every day. No worries of prolactin with EQ and the gains are more quality. Looks like the EQ you`re eyeing has test in it as well — a good blend. Thanks for the question and please ask more
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Deca is going to get you bigger but with more water weight. EQ is more lean gains but takes longer to take effect. You will want to run EQ out to at least 16 weeks if you run it. You can also run Deca and EQ together like I am doing. 480mg Test, 600mg EQ, 250mg Deca. Bulky.
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Anonymous 467 User profile
EQ will give more quality gains. Deca will get you bigger with not water weight. You will lose a good amount of your gains in Deca. EQ is my recommendation. I do not mess with the blends that your looking at here. I prefer to dose each compound myself. I`m starting a cycle of test at 750 and EQ at 600mg. Can`t adjust reach compound in a blend. Good luck man
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Mr.smith User profile
Deca if you donāt mind looking bloated, eq if you youāre more interested in dryer gains that maybe wonāt look so big while your on cycle.
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Matthew User profile
Hands down EQ!! Lean clean mean-looking. Definitely my favorite stack. Great pump. Long lasting endurance due to tons of blood. And let`s not forget the veins! But run this 16 weeks at a minimum. More time for more muscles. As a matter of fact, don`t forget to vote EQ500 for POTW. It`s $95 reg price.
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.50 caliber User profile
BOTH 500 MG CYP 600 MG EQ TWICE A WEEK
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This is just to flesh out more completely an answer to herculees` question and allow you guys to respond. Concerning blends here are my thoughts. If you don`t like the dose, then fine get individual vials done deal. But if you have concerns about the correct mg per vial in blends, there are many labs on 24roids and indeed one for this specific product. By that logic why would you not be concerned that single entity products are correct. I used to work in a compounding pharmacy and made different blends for discerning physicians and it really is no more difficult to make than single entity products, occasionally at higher concentrations it becomes difficult to keep them all dissolved in suspension but that is not really what we are talking about. Also, if a person, new or experienced has an acute issue with PEDs it will almost always be PIP. by using multiple vials multiple times you are just increasing the likelyhood of cross contamination or introduction of pathogens, no ,matter how careful you are. Finally, they are just easier. I enjoy thinking about cycles and planning for myself and assisting others when I can but I`m not really fond of the actual work of doing it. I know some guys enjoy the ritual but not me so much. and of course it is almost always cheaper to go with a blend, as opposed to multiple vials. Currently, I run a chemistry lab and have access to an AA machine and gas spec, and could probably analyze these myself but I don`t have the time nor inclination or the desire to waste a vial testing. I trust 24roids that much. But this is just my opinion and experience. I am sure that there is no right answer, in the end it really does come down to personal preference and what works best for you. best of luck
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Anonymous 467 User profile
I agree that it is personal preference. I am about to run a test/eq cycle and originally i was going to go for the blend for convenience but later decided i wanted different doses of reach compound. I will run 750 test e/week along side 600mg EQ/week. With the blend i simply cannot do that. I am never concerned with the dosing of one product to another because i trust 24roids and the labs they sell. So i believe everything comes down to preference combined with convenience
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John juan User profile
Thank you for tbe info Dr. Scott! Your opinion is greatly appreciated. I never thought of blends that way and seems to make great sense. I was initially against them but might give it a try on my next cycle. Keep up the comments brotha and To 24roids, Give this man an Expert Title Please!!
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nickname_537 User profile
Preference and convenience is number one fir me. I like individually dosed vials versus combination items in one vial because it allows me to much better customise eaxh dosage. 24roids has been here for so long that were they not reputable then nobody would teust them. 24roids is good to go.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
I agree about the blends….from personal experience the convenience of not having to use as much oil per injection is the main reason I started to purchase them. For others worried about choosing a pharmacy to go with for the blends, I have only tried Geneza and have never been disappointed….I wish they would make an Test P, NPP, Mast P blend š lol
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Matthew User profile
Piggy back on this, could y`all vote for Dragon or GP EQ200/TestE200 for product of the week??? This week and later weeks? I m planning to buy 15vials or more. Stock up for years. Also blend are better imo. Stacking EQ and Test is popular. Put 1mL each or more will give you a big lump even if you use 1.5″ needle. That`s over 2mL if you are just pinning 400mg eq and 400mg testE. A week!! You know some bro pin more. So having a blend will decrease the volume of each injection by twice. So it`s preference, convenience, and cost.
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mchilds User profile
I`ve done both blends and not blends and like both. Others hate the limitations the blends bring regarding dosing. So to each his own. Most products from good UGLs on here have confirmation assays of the mgs in each.
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How many bottles would I need to run a 8 to 12 week cycle of testosterone.
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NPCLIFE User profile
Bro if your asking that question sound like you did not do your research. What ever you plan on dosing per week X 12 weeks. 3 bottles of test will cover 500mg per week for 12 weeks if you are purchasing 250mg test. Be carful sounds like you donāt have a clue what your doing. I suggest do your research
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Matthew User profile
I recommend you start with 400mg each a week. Thatās 2mL per week. 2 times 12 weeks is 24 ml. Each bottle had 10 mL. So you need 3 bottles. You will lose some liquid each time you pin o the syringe. But I suggest you run this stack 16 weeks. Thatās 32mL so get 4 bottles.
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YD1 User profile
Hey bud. Tou need to let us know on how much are you thinking on doing per week. If I was you I would definitely buy separate than a mix compound. Much easy to control and at the end it much cheeper. Good luck.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
I agree with Matthew. With this blend you`ll get 400mg of test each week by doing 1ml 2xweek. Same with the EQ. 16 weeks is optimal for EQ. You sound pretty green, so definitely do your research about EVERYTHING. Don`t rely on gym talk bro-science. Good luck!
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GodDamn User profile
Only two, but i`d pick up more just for next time and its cheap so, why not. Figure you get 10 X 250mg per bottle
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Skuchie User profile
Think about what your asking? An 8-12 week range?? Which is it? Those are literally “bottles” in difference. You really need to do more research, settle on a cycle and then buy the compounds separately so you can tailor your injections and dosages.
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What is the best injectable testosterone to take? How much and what days and how long?
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Will User profile Expert
One type is not better than another because they are all testosterone. They all do the same thing, just have different esters. Test P is quick and will be in and out of your system fast. Need to inject every other day at least. Test C and E are slow acting esters and can he injected once a week, but it`s usually better running more frequent injections to keep blood levels stable throughout the week.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Testosterone is testosterone. One does not do anything the other canāt do. The only difference is the time of release and the āhalf lifeā. If you will be pinning often due to a short estered companion compound a lot of people go with Test Propionate. I try to stick to longer esters, phenylpropionate and longer, settling mostly on Enanthate, Cypionate and blends. I am really liking the SIS Labs TriTest400 that was Product of the Week a few weeks ago. Seems to be very good and is perfect for the cycle I am doing which is test and EQ (I stopped the deca). With a longer ester you should try to pin every 3.5 days so, for example, Monday morning and Thursday evening. This applies to Enanthate, Cypionate and long ester blends. Sustanon is good but you should inject EOD for best results.
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BABA User profile
I would recommend Testosterone Cypionate or Enanthate as they`re basically identical. Inject 300-500 mg/week spread out over 2 injections/week for 12-18 weeks. Have ancillaries and PCT ready.
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Swolebro User profile
Honesty it comes down to how often you want to inject. Test P is a fast acting ester. So if you have a bad reaction to it, it`ll be out of your system in a few days, but you also have to inject every day. At the very least, every other day. Test c and e can be injected twice a week because itll stay in your system for a couple weeks, but also takes a few weeks to see results. I take test e 500mg/week and I inject monday morning and Thursday night. A good beginner cycle would be 300-500mg of test weekly for 12-16 weeks. Good luck
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soca User profile
This is a matter of choice, but most beginners stick with enanthate or cypionate, injected twice a week for a total weekly dosage of 500mg.
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seoulmates User profile
Alot of people start with Test Cyp around 500mg a week for min of 8-10 weeks.
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For Anyone to Complain about Geneza or 24roids prices is a Slap in the face.Shut the F… Up .. we get Insane price reductions .(Not Fare) for real bro..get it off the street..Loyalty and Rewards these guys are the best to Ever do this.you deserve to be banned
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Swoleville User profile
Calm down sir. It`s not a crime to Express your opinion. Your over reacting
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Will User profile Expert
Agreed! They also go as far as posting test results on some of the labs. Underground labs are terrible these days with batches that are inconsistencies and so many penny savers. I switched from UG to 24roids awhile ago and when you have to drop doses from what you previously took, you know you`re getting good stuff!
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Skuchie User profile
I believe your new, as Iām on this site 3 hours a day, researching and reading reviews, and Iāve never seen your tag. Iāve been a loyal 24roids customer for three years and sing their praises, from the roof tops, if u will, and 24roids is nothing short of an amazing organization with the most professional customer support. I often compare them to Amazon, in both of those respects. However, the other gentleman only expressed his opinion, and an observation about Geneza, which he felt would benefit our community. You donāt agree, thatās fine, so PASS THE QUESTION, thereās no need for your negativity.
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JayP User profile
Where was someone complaining? Their prices are so good that I refuse to buy from anyone else. Not to mention the loyalty credit and other incentives they offer!
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K.D.T User profile
Not a big deal every ones intitled to there option this just a waste of a question
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YD1 User profile
Bro take a adex. Thats my fkin view not urs u dont like go else where. I see what I see!!! And i see the truth!!! U dont like ??? Dont look!! I buy geneza all the time. But wats right is right!!! Check your damn e2 levels bro and get some help!
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Hello everyone, Quick question. With test e being a long ester and EQ needing to build up in your system, should I front load this stuff. Maybe run double for the first week?
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Rian Hoeben
Is this your first cycle? Nothing wrong with allowing Test E and EQ to build up slowly in the system. Much safer approach in my opinion.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Front loading is not necessary but I would expect long-term results with this cycle.
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anonymous_386
No need to front load cause it should be a long cycle anyway 12 to 16 weeks. If 10 or shorter then yes but wouldn’t do less than 12 with eq.
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nickname_537 User profile
You can double up for a front load for faster effect. But if it`s your first cycle it`s not recommended to go that high. Also if your first cycle stick to testosterone only. This is the only way to know how your body responds to individual compounds and you can add one more next time and so forth until you know how each item works on you. But testosterone is a base and that means you need to run it every cycle to keep levels up because any steroid will lower testosterone and testosterone is naturally occurring in your body and you need it for proper function.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Slow and steady wins the race. You can but what`s the rush.everyone wants everything now.i don`t think it makes that much difference when I tried front loading but .you are going to do what you have decided anyway so give it a try bro.
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ViktorN User profile
No need to frontload EQ. Although some would say to do so. EQ takes 4-5 weeks to kick in so taking more in my opinion wouldnāt help much. Instead spend those 4/5weeks to push your muscle to your best. And when testE and EQ kicked they will pass that limit. Donāt forget your pct and AI before you start. Good luck my friend. (Late answer but just in case some search EQ/enanthate).