I was using EQ and noticed a raise in BP. On this message board I was told to switch to Primo. Now Im reading in the Para Pharma of Primo that hepatic liver, cardiovascular problems and high BP. I though this was better then EQ for those side effect from the answers I had received.
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SamV User profile
From what I understand, that`s a concern only for folks with pre-existing condition. If you`re already diagnosed with high BP or other heart related conditions, this drug seem to alleviate more.
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Blood p User profile
All steroids will raise blood pressure as they increase red blood cell count and thickens your blood. Primo is not as dramatic in effecting bp.
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Dan User profile Expert
testosterone elevate your bp. and so is most aas. if not no then some other health issues. EQ will creat more rbc. this give you vascularity and endurance. To relieve bp some brothers will donate blood. you also should start at a lower dose if you are react well to EQ. add in cardio route to help with bp. there are bp meds you can take while on cycle as well. good luck
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Mike User profile
If you were experiencing high no with Eq you could donate blood to thin your blood. Primo is much better with limiting sides of steroids.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Most AAS will cause an increase in BP, has to do with the estrongenic sides and an upset in electrolytes causing your vascular to essentially become bloated. Primo may help, may not no one can say with any certainty for YOU. BUt i would imagine in most cases it would. Also very expensive and less dramatic gains at least for me Everything has sides stop reading every side effect. Aspirin has about a dozen. Focus on the ones that are most common and that you are prone to. A mild diruetic and/or BP med will help. see your doc with mildly elevated bp and tell him diuretics like HCTZ/tiam have worked in the past or if you feel comfortable buy from 24roids
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Cory s User profile
Primo is significantly less harsh on bp than primo. You should have much sides with primo.
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Have not ran hgh yet and am in a bind choosing. Between primo at 500mg a week for 10ish weeks or grab 2 or 3 kits blue top hgh. Looking for best perminate muscle gain
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novadesert007 User profile
Primo is very mild so you won`t experience massive gain as Test but I see what you trying to stay off Test. HGH works best with Test. I suggest get 6-7 kits and run 3-4iu Mon-Friday for 6 months. You won`t get the real result unless you ran Hgh for longer period of time
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EQhead User profile Expert
It`ll take longer with hgh, but I highly recommend it. After 2 to 3mos you`ll start to see results of leaning out. I`ve run blue and brown tops and both are very good. Start at 2iu per day for 1st month then increase to 3iu. Be prepared for carpal tunnel pain for awhile…. at least that was my experience. It does subside though.
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jason User profile
Why primo? It`s not a miracle drug because it costs so much. Way cheaper drugs to take to get better results. Why not run a low dose test and EQ cycle instead of primo? To put on muscle steroids are better than growth. Growth is fantastic with other steroids, but by itself you will be disappointed.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Primo is nice it does give your muscles a better look and it`s great on low calories. And hgh you wont see any muscle growth from it but it can do wonders for anti aging it`s a toss up but for hgh 6 months minium o would say a year at 2 or 3 iu per day 5 to 7 days a week. What ever choice you make cant loose
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EDubz User profile
With 2 or 3 kits of HGH your not going to make great gains, it takes atleast 6 months of using HGH to start seeing good muscle building effects. If you want to make gains in 3 months I would go with a test cycle.
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MegaCycle User profile
Primo needs to be run pretty high, hgh needs to be run for at least 6 months. They are going to be very different
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Have not ran hgh yet and am in a bind choosing. Between primo at 500mg a week for 10ish weeks or grab 2 or 3 kits blue top hgh. Looking for best perminate muscle gain
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JB205 User profile Expert
What will the rest of your cycle consist of? I`ve run HGH on cycle and by itself, and I will tell you running HGH even with 500mg of test a week, I saw crazy results when I ran them together. I felt like it was definitely worth saving up and running HGH with a full cycle is the way to go. I ran a cycle for 16 weeks and dropped to a trt dose of 150mg a week with HGH for a full 6 months and it was by far the best gains and quality muscle that i was able to hold the entire 6 months.
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Will User profile Expert
They are two completely different things that work very differently. A couple vials of primo and a couple kitsch of HGH won`t yield a lot of muscle gain. Your diet and training determine that most of all. AAS is more of a muscle builder while HGH is better for recovery, improved sleep, and keeping bodyfat levels lower. Primo would yield the ability to grow muscle, but taken over a long period of time. However, if your goal is building muscle, youd be better served with Test + deca/NPP. Those will yield more changes in your body than a weaker compound like primo.
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nickname_99 User profile Expert
Hgh can be beneficial I would run it for 9 months primo is great too pick 1 for now do the other next time
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Harry Balzunya User profile
I agree with what was said above, and want to add no muscle will be permanent if you don`t consistently keep up with diet and workout regimine. Running HGH while on test will help but your going to want to get atleast 6 months worth of it to get the most out of it.
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S-C-J User profile
Neither one is going to add much muscle growth, but Primo would be the better choice. HGH has to be run at high dosages for long periods of time to see even nominal muscle gains.
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Tosser User profile
Bro, GH is not going to make you gain any muscle without AAS alongside. And three kits is not long enough. You may see fat loss and feel great but that is all you will notice.
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does anyone no what happened to pharmacon labs 24roids used to carry why dont they no more. does 24roids just drop certain labs because there not cuttin the musterd
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Fit_mom User profile
You can go through them direct. Maybe that is the reason. There are still great labs on 24roids. Good luck
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Honestly not sure…sometimes the pharms aren`t around anymore, or maybe 24roids wasn`t turning as much of a profit as they wanted from the Pharm…still a lot of great alternatives on here though, Geneza is my favorite and tursted pharm. Good luck
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Will User profile Expert
We cannot give you the answer to that. Start a 24roids support ticket and they`ll be able to provide you an explanation
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nickname_755 User profile Expert
24roids drops some brands. It`s not necessarily quality, they are in the business of making money and who knows maybe they couldn`t caught a deal
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Gymr User profile
It`s possible they just went to direct ordering.. not 100 on that but seems to be that way
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nickname_537 User profile
Check with 24roids, maybe they weren`t selling as much or quality was amiss? Only way to know is to ask 24roids.
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Is this different than other Primo`s? This one says to pin 100mg every day while others say weekly. Would 200mg every 5 or 7 days be enough for a 200lb male, 14% bf or should I am i off all together?
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Jaris User profile
Everyone is different, start with 200mg a week, than wait and see how your body is responding to it. Then you can make any changes
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
No it`s not different than other primo`s. Primo has to be taken on high doses 600mg and above a week to work great. You pin it twice a week to keep stable levels in the blood. Dragon primo200 is product of the week now you can pick it up half price.
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anonymous255 User profile
I would pin 200-400mg every 5 days.
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Will User profile Expert
Primo 100 is a fast ester while Primo 20p is a slower ester. Primo 100 will need to be daily or every other day. Primo 200 can last in your system a week or 2 and should be pinned at least once a week.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
The reason it says to pin Ed is because of the low mg/ml. With primo you want to pin 400-600mg a week at 600mg a week that would be 6ml per injection or for 2 injections which is a very high injection volume. If you pin .75-1ml a day it makes it much easier for your body to absorb it rather than taking 3-6ml of oil at one time.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
It`s not different, same compound. You can pin ED or EOD or every 3 days, whatever the schedule as long as you reach your target weekly dosage.
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Is this safe for women?
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Dan Drought User profile
Yes it was made for both woman and children but you should always take it slow and gauge your side effects.
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David France User profile
Primo and Anavar are both the safest steroids for woman.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Primo is safe for women. However, no standard therapeutic dosage has been established for females. Hence, the majority of females will find that a dosage of 25-50 mgs per day will be optimal in a cycle of 6-8 weeks. Due to primobolan’s well-documented effects on hair loss, cycles longer than 10 weeks are not recommended.