Hey just wonder how much of this should I take a week not my first cycle should it be like 2 a week and what dose would anyone recommen
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JohnCummings User profile
If I were you, I would buy all three products separately and mix yourself. To get the solutions to combine correctly there is often additional solvent added that can significantly increase pip. I have personally stopped using the pre mixed, and have had a drastic reduction in site pain. Good luck, hope it helps.
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Bob Johneser User profile
Great product! I would just do. Half cc twice a week (i do tuesday morning and Friday night), like every 3 1/2 days. If you have two bottles I would do 16 weeks (1.25 ccs a week). Certainly adjust as you go depending on how your body responds. I would also have some cabergoline on hand to combat tren side effects.
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EDubz User profile
I would do 1Ml twice a week like 1 ml Monday, and 1 ML Thursday you should het great gains from that cycle. Just make sure you have ai, caber, and of course pct ready. Good luck with it and dont forget to vote
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RyanVogel User profile
If I were you I would just do the 1cc the entire cycle to know that your body reacts well to the product
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thomasduffy User profile
Like once a week
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nickname_791 User profile
Start slow and grow. If its test 250 then I`d take .5 twice a week. So 1cc a week. Get all the gains u can out of that then jump to 500mg a week after that. Make sure u have your pct. ( nolva, clomid, and hcg) for post cycle therapy. Goodluck eat clean and train hard
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thomasduffy User profile
Thanks dude
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Onyx User profile
1.5 ml twice weekle for 12-15 weeks. Tou should get great gains. Good luck!
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this also seems to be the perfect cut stack as well? Should I onsider saving this to cut over a long period?
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Sean Phillips User profile
this is a great stck for you. the primo and tbol dont arom. and the test is easily combated with an ai!
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Viking blood User profile
this is a great anabolic and androgenic stack that builds muscle hardens muscle and burns fat! this is a great stack to build muscle and burn nfat train and eat accordingly
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mike User profile
this is also consider a long cut blend by dragon pharma. these drugs are very versatile and can be used to cut and bulk while staying hard.
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Jonathan User profile
this is the perfect bulk and cut stack. this is the long ester form of the cut and andro mix, but tren is a versitile drug to build mass and keep muscle while dieting.
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jenna User profile
this is a go to blend for androgenic, anabolic and hardening agents! it has it all, and can build slabs of muscle and do so while dieting as well!
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Cameron User profile
it is everything you want it to be! bulk and or cut!
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Jaris User profile
I prefer stacking everything by myself, because its better value for money
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Hi bros! A quick question. I saw a lot of positive reviews and one of my friends had extremely great results using Aaster gear so I definitely want to try their products. But the problem is I will have money for big order ready in 5-7 days. They are running a great promo now and are one of the few very reputable labs available at the moment so I believe they have quite a seizable amount of orders. Is it possible that in 5-7 days they will be out of stock just like other labs? I would really like to try their gear and take advantage of the promo but I am afraid about their stocks being depleted soon. Is there any way to check if they are fully stocked and will not run out of the products in 5-7 days? Thank you!
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Jd D User profile
They where the first lab to shut down and restock so they are good to go
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Pookie User profile
The other labs are out of stock for another reason. You should be good to go
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JB205 User profile Expert
This promo has been ongoing for awhile to be honest. I think your safe to wait the 5 to 7 days bro.
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Jason User profile
It`s highly unlikely they will run out but you never know. Ask you buddy to borrow some money. If for some reason you can`t get the money back to him tell him you will give him the gear instead since he also is on it.
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Lorddrip User profile
I really wanna try this as well it`s kinda expensive tho I guess if you u have deep pockets go for it its prolly strong as hell goodluck
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BigOlRed User profile
I`ve noticed that geneza has been running out more than any of them so you should be okay
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Guys Can I mix this Perfect Mass Mix with Sustanon
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Don O User profile Expert
Absolutely, you can mix them without issue. Good luck on your cycle.
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JB205 User profile Expert
You can but perfect mass already has test E 200mg in it. I would say if you are pinning mass mix one a week the yes, you can use the Sustanon in between just to up your test dose. But if your pinning mass mix twice a week and still want to add test, I would use test prop in between mass injections. It`s all going to depend on how much test you want to run a week.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
No reason you couldn’t. Testosterone is versatile no matter the ester attached.
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Gman User profile Expert
Yes but as its 500mg per cc I would only do about a 1/2 cc of each at a time. Usually with thick oil like that it can hurt a little but yes you can mix any oils together
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Drew User profile
You can absolutely mix sus with this you will have no issues at all.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
This stack already contains testosterone, so no reason to combine. I mean yes, you could, but testosterone has a ceiling dosage where you stop getting additional benefits, and just start adding side effects. Do you have significant cycle experience? if not, you shouldn`t be using a stack with Trenbolone in it.
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Hey guys! This will be my 5th cycle. I`m 58yo, eat very clean, 11% body fat. My plan for this cycle is 1ml (500mg) twice a week for 12 weeks. Does that sound good? My other question for you guys is, what should I take with this as an additional supplement to get the most out of the cycle – if anything. I haven`t really had side effects from previous cycles that included test, tren, deca and drost in various stacks. Is there anything over the counter, or from 24roids, that would enhance the effects of this stack?
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Lorddrip User profile
Depends on the goals you are trying to meet well I hope when I`m 56 im I`m good shape like that as well good luck brother
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Harold User profile
Pretty solid pre stack. The only thing I would add or at least have on hand is an AI just in case. Maybe take half a pill 2x a week. Also, would take HCG at 250iu`s 2x a week. Make sure you have a PCT on hand of Nolvadex and Clomid for when you come off and you are good to go
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jose User profile Expert
This is a pretty solid mix. As long as you are not sensitive to estrogen or prolactin then you shouldn`t take any cycle support. Regarding your seconds question, studies have shown Vitamine B1 and K2 are good for heart, and mega dose of Vit B3 decreases the LDL.
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Gman User profile Expert
You could always run an oral to start I would say turinabol at 40mg a day. As for over the counter not sure. The best thing you can do is eat for your goals food is alot more important to achieveing the goals you want
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JB205 User profile Expert
It`s hard to say without knowing what your goal at the end of cycle is. I have heard others mention that tren will hinder their cardio and effect stamina in that regards, but personally it tren ace never affected my cardio. But you could possibly add in EQ at 300mg to 500mg which could help combat any effects on your cardio from tren. All the esters in this mix are long esters, I have added test prop 100mg to a few cycles that I ran with long esters, I just felt sluggish at some points and when adding the test prop, it seemed to give me that boost back.
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Big Dogg User profile
I personally run Proviron with all my cycles. It gives a noticable boost for me. I also take Bromocriptine when I run any 19nor compound. In addition to a multi vitamin/mineral product I would use co-q10 and red rice yeast and Omega 3s. I use those all the time but double the dose when on tren. You can use chia seeds and flax seed to get your omegas and some extra fiber at the same time.
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What is the perfect PCT for this product? I plan to take 1 ml/week for 10 weeks and half pill Anastrozole every other day, also i will include Proviron, 2 pills a day.
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Victor Hugh User profile
Great choice. This product is awesome. But for your cycle I would choose 1ml every 5 days at least, not every 7 days. The dosage will be better then. As for PCT I would go for HCG during week 11-12 (long esters will taper down in this time if you stop taking Perfect Mass after week 10), 3 times weekly 500iu. And in week 13 clomid. First 3-4 days 100mg a day. And then 50mg ED for about 20-25 days.
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Joey tre User profile
Standard pct clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 i dont think you will need hcg but id still grab some.
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John Willis User profile
I would just use a regular PCT protocol. Clomid 100/100/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20. Matt every throw some HCG after discontinuing the test before starting PCT. Good luck bro
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Sven User profile
No need for all that other shit, in fact proviron is slightly suppressive and will hamper your overall recovery. Nolva at 40/40/20/20 has been proven to provide the same recovery as multiple compounds.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
I would say just do Nolvadex and Clomid for 4+ weeks. More like six weeks in my experience. I also like to take HCG the month before I stop my cycle. I actually like to run HCG almost the entire cycle but definitely before I begin a PCT but not during it.
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Daniel Kostov User profile
any pct that works for you and you have done with good success would be the perfect pct for you. If you only have done basic pct then adding in HCG at 250iu per day for 2 weeks on top of your nolva/clomid combo would be a great pct
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ive been wantig to try some of the european brands. wich ones do you gues reccomend. aaser,sis,para pharma,hilma or alpha pharma. please people who have used them, i usally stick with gp,dp thanks
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
I am personally a big fan of SIS, but they seem to keep going in and out of stock. They have fast shipping and quality products. I have used their Test Cyp, Win, Nolvadex, and PCT Tabs. My next order will likely be them, if they are in stock.
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mchilds User profile
I use SIS if not GP but I`m not sure what`s going on with SIS right now.
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Grut User profile
You can`t go wrong with sis, para and Maha. I have used each of these brands and they hit hard. I can honestly say they are truly legit and potent. Try them out, you`ll see….
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nickname_483 User profile Expert
Rus-bio and Hilma are both solid, I have tried their Proviron and Dbol. Everytime I tried to order SIS it went out of stock and I really don`t see any reason to pay extra for Aaster, when they had buy3 get 1 promo it was worth it but all the other ones have worked great. Alpha is indian and one of my top 3 favorites brands after with Dragon and GP.
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Anonymous56 User profile
SIS and Aster solutions are very popular. I typically use GP and DP. But i have never had any issues with these
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Drew User profile
Aaster is top of the line my friend.
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Hi folks! Wow, my favourite brand is running a promo again! I love their quality and shipping service and I would like to make a biger purchase and take advantage of this promo. But I will have enough funds ready on Monday/Tuesday:( Does anybody know if they are gonna prolong the promo or it is gonna finish in 2 days???? I love Aaster gear and would like to make a big order but I will not be able to gather enough funds by Monday. Please let me know guys if you have some info. thanks.
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omeed haji User profile
i really dont know but sometime i hve seen after they finish promo they start some days again promo so i hope u get ur chance this time
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
It`s going to finish in 62 hours, you better get funds before then to take advantage of the deal.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
They have a count down on the offer time.but they do extend alot of times yet don`t count on it..get it now!! Great deal on Aaster products
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SteveC User profile
Aaster is THE BEST BRAND 24roids has to offer HANDS DOWN. Idk if they will extend this promo, but I`m assuming they will since they have with their last 3 or 4 promos. They might not though, so dont bet on it. I`m making my order tomorrow for this very reason 🙂
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Acfit User profile
The promo ends on the date specified. Sometimes the Promo will get extended, but it’s unknown whether it will. The last big promo for Geneza extended for another week after, but that’s not always the case. If you want it that bad, make it happen before the promo ends. Borrow from a trusted friend if you need to. Good luck.
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anonymous255 User profile
It usually ends on the date specified but sometimes they do extend sales after. That is a question for 24roids personnel.
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How many weeks should I run this for a good bulk cycle? And what else is needed
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Beard User profile
I wouldn`t run this for mass… I`d run like 500mg test c, 200-250mg of deca and 50mg of anadrol. N expect incredible results.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Just don`t. Meaning don`t mess with premixed vials. There`s a myriad of reasons. Just one, you lack the ability to make adjustments. All you can do is lower or increase the dose. What if you are one of the people who has a better experience running Trenobolone higher than Test? Additionally Tren is better utilized for health purposes in non bulking cycles. Buy each drug individually if you`re set on them. But keep in mind that the Tren and Drost can wreak havoc on your health due to their toxicity. Add that to gaining weight and it doesn`t make for a fun experience. Especially when Tren kicks in hard and all you want to do is lay around. Try an old school bulking cycle, higher test and a shit ton of food. Save to harder drugs for when you need them
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Ben Thefighter User profile
Great blend and a perfect mass cycle for good quality muscle if you have enough experinece. I assume this is not your first cycle. Because great and perfectly dosed as this blend is, it is rather for guys how have at least 2-4 cycles under their belt. 12 weeks would be perfect here. The blend has 3 powerful compounds so you wouldn`t need anything else here other than IA to prevent aromatization (drostanolone enanthate should take care of it but it is better to be safe than sorry so get one pack of Aaster Arimidex as well) and one bottle of Cabaser 1mg in case you get your prolactine level high due to tren enan. Oh, if you want sth for a kickstart (it is gonna take 2-3 weeks before long esters start working most efficiently) you can run Metanabol or Turinabol for first 4 weeks 30-40mgs. To previous guys who say not to do stacks… geeeez… not everybody is a first timer and not everybody is here to run test prop only. Tren and drostan along with testosterone is one of the best mixes ever for good quality mass s othink before you say anything!!!! Your reasoning is like “don`t do steroids at all because they are dangerous for your health”. Geeeeez…. are you sure you haven`t entered the wrong forum?Bro, just keep your diet clean, work out hard and make the most of the cycle.
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anonymous255 User profile
I would run this for 10 weeks and add in adex at .5mg every other day.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
12-16 weeks, although I am not a fan of pre-mixed compounds, since you can buy individual components easily on this site, and mix them yourself at a ratio that your body may respond best.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Don`t rely on this stuff to bulk, really on it to SUPPLEMENT your nutrition to allow you to achieve your goals. JP pretty much hit everything. Don`t rely on this stuff, focus on your nutrition and training. Almost any compound can be for bulking or cutting, it truly depends on how you apply yourself aside from AAS> Good luck
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Hi guys. I am currently using Aaster Extreme Gain Mix and I am absolutely stunned with how awesome this product is!!!! I think it is the first time I am using so highly concentrated gear with so little pip. It is amazing. And the products is SO potent too!!! This encouraged me to use their Perfect Mass Mix in the next part of the cycle. So currently I am in my week 3 (fisnishing it) of the Extreme Gain and I want to run it as long as 10 weeks and then change to Perfect Mass. I am a heavy tren and masteron abuser during my shredding cycle and I like to run them for very long. My highest doses pre-contest were 500mg of each weeekly. But I have never used these compounds with long esters. Should I use more mgs than I used with short esters? Ok, I know tren is treen and master is master and the only difference is estrification here, but in practice it is sometimes a bit different. I was thinking of going 1,5ml of Perfect Mass twice a week and run it for 10-12 weeks.
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Maison User profile
I would stick with the 500mgs per week. It doesn’t make a big difference long esters or shorters. But if you plan to run the gear for a long time I would stick with the longesters. Your 1.5 dose is alittle over kill on your body. That may increase negative side effects.
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nickname_537 User profile
Lol you`re a heavy tren user at 500mg tren weekly lol? I use 1,500mg tren ace per week. No real sides. Just got blood work results yesterday after like 5 or 6 months abusing it and only issue was alt (some liver thing) was a little high but not a lot at all, hdl was down somewhat, everything else normal including blood glucose and kidneys etc. *Caution is that you must realize that everybody reacts differently man so maybe you can only handle 500mg tren per week, but maybe more too. Basically back to your answer, long esters contain less steroid. Example of a short ester at 200mg per ml can be 165mg actual active substance. On a long ester the same 200mg per ml can be like only 135mg actual substance you see? Big esters take more room so the active ingredient is lower. If you`re using long esters then go ahead and add like 20% or maybe 25% more. 500mg short ester becomes closer to 650mg possibly even 700mg if it were a long ester in order to get a similar active ingredient amount.
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Massgains User profile
Trust and listen to your body’s sides if your not experiencing and bad sides at 500mgs a week than ya up it you 750 and see if you get worst sides if sides don’t get worst your golden if they do get bad drop back down.
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Jack User profile Expert
1.5ml twice a week totals to 450mg of tren and mast and 600mg of test a week which is not that much. Since you know how your body reacts to each compound in the vial you should be fine.
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Scott User profile
Just picked up some of the same exact product about 5 hours ago since 24roids is running this 20% sitewide sale. I was going to dose the same exact amount as you are I’m just lil worried about the test amount. I can handle the 450 tren and mast, but I’m typically a 1:1 or even 1:2 test to tren. And haven’t ran test this high with tren. I’m going to do it anyways I’m pretty sure, if sides are rough, I’ll drop to 2mls a week and use the ace I have on hand. Pumped you had a good experience with aaster so far. Goodluck on the remaining cycle bro
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
This is a pretty advanced question that you might want to pose on a message board that has informed sources who brew and can intelligently speak to the nuances of gear.
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Have been hearing a lot about this brand and product. Anyone try? What’s a good dose with this? Thanks fellas
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SteveC User profile
While I haven`t tried this exact product, I can tell you that right now I am on a cycle of test/eq/tbol from this lab and their stuff is GREAT. Very little PIP (if any at all), smooth injections, and very accurately dosed. And the shipping is stupidly fast too. Overall, I give Aaster a 10/10 rating and I will be returning to buy more products from this lab in the very near future.
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michael patsalou User profile
a friend used it told me its high quality
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TestLab User profile
I`ve heard great things about this mix at gym. I never personally tried it but from I`ve heard it has a KICK to it, as well as some post injection pain but what mix doesn`t have PIP. Some people though rather buy them separately so they can really control dose and effect. Good luck and stay healthy!
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Jacky User profile
Ive heard nothing but good things about this product so I have little doubts that it will suit your needs (with correct preparation of course)
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Snagged 4 vials of this. Plan on running 3mls a week. 600/450/450 test/tren/mast per week. My question is how much AI will be needed while running this since the mast is already in the mix and a somewhat weak AI. Currently take .25 adex EOD for test/tren 500/400. Should I just keep with that dose of adex? Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks bros. Stay swole.
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Maison User profile
I would up the arimidex to .5mgs eod and pick up some caber for the tren sides.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
I’m not sure why you would want to increase the testosterone dosage to 600 mg per week. Typically, when you run a more complex cycle such as this, you would want to actually lower the testosterone dosage down to something like 200-400. Add another compound, plus increase in the testosterone dosage is increased risk with a very negligible benefit.
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randy User profile Expert
Depends on if you are sensitive to estrogen or not. 500mg of test a week is kind of standard and many people don`t even take an AI at that dose, 600mg of test is kind of high but everybody reacts differently to estrogen. If you started noticing the sides you can up the dose until you get to the sweet spot. It would be best to get a blood work done and check your levels mid cycle
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GainsVille_85 User profile
To answer SoCal it’s because he wants to run 3mls/wk and the way the product is dosed that’s how it works out. 2mls would be 400/300/300. That being said I agree with him that 600 test with those other compounds is not necessary and will produce more sides than what it’s worth. As far as the AI dosage, keep it the same unless you feel the need to change it. Add in the Caber.
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Fit_mom User profile
I would base off if you are having any estrogen sides now with the 500 test. My husband has zero gyno with 500w test. His natural T is low to begin with. If what is working stay the course. Just bump if you think you need it. Plus one on the caber for the tren. Good luck
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Hi Guys. Does anyone have any idea when we can expect some promo from Aaster brand? I tried their products and they were far better than anything else I have ever used. Now I have a big order to place but I could use some nice promo to save some cash. Anybody has some inside knowledge?
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michael patsalou User profile
not sure usually a big sale once per year
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nickname_464 User profile
Besides using someone else`s coupon code, I`m not sure. Personally I just check on here every couple days. The Geneza deal rught now is fire, 40% off! I can promise you their gear is legit as is their website, but so are all the labs on this site. Best of luck.
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Massgains User profile
Each labs has a sale once or twice a year depending on stock I believe.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
They literally are having a promo right now, 2 vials fere for every 10 vials. You won`t get another promo anytime soon, and they most certainly won`t be stacking promos.
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nickname_957 User profile
I think they have a big sale once a year or so, im pretty sure each lab does
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Has anybody tried this product or this company
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Haven’t tried this product exactly but have tried their other products including Testosterone Enanthate/ EQ. Very good quality brand and if I remember correctly very quick shipping also. Many other users will say similar comments and this is a respected brand here on 24roids.
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Scott User profile
Solid brand. Legit gear. Have not tried exact product but it looks good. I’m just not a fan of tren E. Tren ace is the way to go. But Aaster is solid stuff.
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Chris Jeonding User profile
Just like other guys say. Very good brand and extremely high quality of products. I tried several of them and all were top notch. These new blends look awesome but I doubt you will get a review just yet as they are new. They introduced them on 24roids like 4 or 5 days ago. But if they are equal in quality to other of their products that means they must be great.
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Marty Knuckles User profile
I haven`t tried this blend as it is new. But I ordered several of their products and they were excellent. One of the best brands on 24roids IMHO and grwoing bigger and bigger. Their shipping is also very fast and packaging very discreet.
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RJB16 User profile
Have order a few time form them but not that mix, all gear seemed good and properly dosed…
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LegacyLifter User profile
Lots of people here recommend this brand. If it`s on 24roids then it`s good.