I know that tren is supposed to be tren, no matter what ester is attached to it, that the ester only dictates the amount of time to release it all into the bloodstream. With that being said, I`ve read from numerous source online that claim tren hex, aka Parabolan, always felt stronger to them. Do you guys think that`s just purely mental, that the long hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester can`t effect the protein synthesis or muscle growth? Or perhaps bro science doesn`t fully understand underlying effects caused by longer ester chains vs shorter ones like acetate or enanthate?
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JohnnyB User profile
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I`d give away my age if I told you I was part of the crowd training when the parabolan, finajet etc was around and fairly easy to obtain lol. Probably many guys of my era would say today that the stuff from the 80s did seem more potent however those of us old enough to compare then and today we were younger stronger and still growing. I have tried the parabolan that some labs here have and it`s obviously legit like all 24roids is but I`d like like most compounds we all have the same results to some degree but genetics,diet etc is what separates us all. I personally like to front load tren E when I start tren A usually with masteron and test prop and usually ad tren E in the first 2 weeks then just stick with Tren A till the show As the tren E gradually works into the mix and stays there for a while is awesome. Now that I`m a bit older lol I don`t run it to often. Usually if I plan to compete. Hope this helped some stay safe and strong brother
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
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Ha jonny B cracked me up. I too have been around long enough to remember the fabled Parabolan, finijet and that fucking junk- finaplix H. Anyhow, part of it was that parabolan (tren Hex) came on the market (can you imagine trying this “new” AAS) everyone made good gains (of course they would it`s tren is like hundreds of times more anabolic then test). And then one day “poof” it was gone and never came back for many years no warning no rumors, nothing just gone. So that added to the mystique obviously and over the years it has gained this mythic status that is probably not true). I agree the books say when the ester is cleaved that they are all the same– test is test and tren is tren they will say but…. the manufactures and salesmen for susta will talk about susta versus single ester tests as if it is a completely different drug (it`s not) and that it hits the receptor in a slightly different manner, this allows for increased efficacy at lower lowes, fewer sides longer dosing intervals ect. I not entirely sure I believe that, but there IS something. When susta was $40 a vial (or $5 more for one of those big glass syringes lol) i would consider it, but now that it`s almost the same as the single esters, why not-what if they tre right. Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (parabolan) is the same way, you are right on paper there should be no difference but i can tell you for me-there is. Just because it`s in a book and seems plausible doesn`t always mean it is. As an FYI, i have noticed that some of the third party independant AAS testing site has been showing LOTS of bunk Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate. It is either one of the other trens or sometimes nothing at all. I checked a few of 24roids companies like dragon, para and GP I think and all passed with flying colors a few had higher then expected potency. Long story short is on parer no, they should be the same, but I feel parabolin is slightly more anabolic and gives better hardess but may akll be in my head. Best bet is not to have any expections (i know thats hard) either way and do a prpoer cycke let us know how you do. Sorry, so Long winded but excellent question and Jonny B caught me reeling in the years. lol Hope this helps
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Tlift User profile
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I remember the parabolin /tren hex days . The stuff worked I never did more the a vial a week a few cycles a year for 3-5 years, to old to remember exactly ,lol. But training was beyond great and calories worked up to 8-10k a day. And grew like a horse with 250 mg enanthate a week. Never tried since , with the new esters . But if the stuff today is just as good , I can`t understand why today the amounts of trenoboline used are so high. If I was not over 50 , I would try again. But Parabolin and being young there were no limits !
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
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I have read and heard tren hex works better but like others mentioned on paper it`s the same however I do feel there might me more complexities that cause the ester to impact other variables along the pathway promoting more anabolism. If tren hex is not much more cost wise I`d go with it personally, it can`t hurt you know?
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
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When I dos SI dos this the same as enanthate. To me it`s about close to neanthe S anything else.
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Not a question, just a word to the wise. I haven`t used tren hex (parabolin) since back in the day, but have been considering it in a future cycle. As i was doing my general research i noticed more and more labs supposedly containing tren hex have zero in it. The good news is that i did find 2 independent labs (not 24roids as well as 24roids) that conducted analysis of this alpha-pharma parabolin came back excellent. The other good thing is that even though they did not contain tren hex, they did contain at least the tren acetate or enanthate. I couldn`t find anything on the smaller labs 24roids carries but they really do an amazing job vetting so i`m sure its fine. Just a strange trend i`ve been noticing, maybe the cost or availability of tren hex has changed or maybe just a one (or 3) off. Either way i thought i would pass it on.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Thank you for this information. It is on sale as product of the week right now I was thinking about trying some myself but I`m going to go with acetate instead. If you look at the trending now what`s selling the most is it the product of the week I haven`t seen that a long time
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Hello Dr. Scott and thank you for the information. If I ever did do Trenbolone I would rather do Parabolin above Acetate or Enanthate. 24roids does do a good job of makeing sure our products are tested. Would you happened to know what happened to Aaster? I asked they said “they are restocking” which tells me they are either a small lab or they had to move because they have not been on here very long after the relaunch.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
Your welcome, No idea brother, i would just be guessing. I can tell you that over the years this happens from time to time. Typically everything returns to normal within a few weeks or months, sometimes these labs never come back (like SIS). In the meantime, maybe move out of your comfort zone and try a new lab like BM (very affordable if you can deal with amps) or maxtreme (excellent product, boxes hologram ect top notch). I`m a bit of a gearhead and take short notes on every cycle-the MFG,bloodwork, weight gain, dose pics ect. Both of those labs (and most everyone i`ve used on 24roids)are fine. good luck
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Anything can you tell me about Magnum? Such as: viscosity/thinness of the oil, any lab tests? They have a good promo going on. Lol, I have gone out of my zone several times brother, back and forth between Geneza and other brands such as: SIS, Quality Direct, Aaster, DP, Domestic (pretty sweet the domestic has so many Testosterone ester makeups and MGs, they also have Undecanoate as well). Stay healthy and well brother.
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B-trained User profile
Thanks for the info Dr. Scott, I`m about to buy 100 amps of the parabolin but want to make sure it has the Tren hex first. When you say that alpha-pharma parabolin came back excellent are you saying it is Tren hex? thanks again for the info.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
yes sir on 2 independent sites (you probably know and can look yourself if you like) as well as 24roids, yes actually a bit above the stated amount of tren hex if memory serves. and i forgot POW so pretty good deal
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B-trained User profile
Thanks again, I enjoy your “not a question” posts. Keep them coming.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Thank you for being a good 24roids citizen! I appreciate the info and any in-depth research on these compounds you provide. Have a good day brother.
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B-trained User profile
Yes sir, excellent. Label claim: Alpha Pharma Parabolin has a label claim of 76.5 milligrams per 1.5 milliliters of trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate.Actual content: Alpha Pharma Parabolin was determined to have an actual content of 78.4 mg per 1.5 ml of trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate.No microbiological contamination was detected.
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monster712 User profile
I Have done Alpha Parabolin a couple of times and it was some of the best Tren I ever used in my life however, it was the only thing that ever gave me bad back acne and I have done pretty much everything for years and never had an issue as I am not acne prone but only when I was on the hex. My friends did alpha hex and never had an issue so it must have just been me. But, alpha parabolin is 100% legit. I have done nothing alpha Pharma products since their inception around 2008 and I was so happy when 24roids started carrying it.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
really good, thanks for the input. I`ve used a few of their products -susta and tren E and all performed well. For sure be using them in the future when and if they restock. thanks
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How often is injections a week and for how long..and the dose taken..
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Only 2 injections of this compound are necessary a week unlike the aceate ester which has a very short half life. I would recommend 2 injections of 150mg per week(300mg total) for 8-12 weeks.
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TB40 User profile Expert
Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate is a very long ester (time release), so twice a week dosing is more than adequate. With this compound I would strongly recommended starting with 153mg per week – this can easily be administered by injecting one full amp two times per week, for example on Sun and Thursday, or Mon and Friday. Keep in mind that you are not likely to feel any noticeable effects for 3-6 weeks. I would caution not to increase dosage without careful consideration, if side effects show up, they will take weeks to subside with this very long ester compound.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
With the half life of 14 days Parabolan could be used only once a week if desired or twice a week to keep more stable levels. Since tren is such a strong compound I’d recommend starting at 100mg a week to see how you fair with it and dose up from there max being being 300 a week
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nickname_537 User profile
Parabolan can be taken once every 2 weeks but honestly don`t do it less than weekly. Try 300mg weekly as a beginner. I did. No sides. No cough. Increased but controllable aggression. Now I`m using 1,200mg weekly and feeling less aggression and sides cuz I`m checking used to it. You may yet sides you may not because everyone reacts different. I`m really thinking tren sides are way overblown and I`ve also heard others say this as well .
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
I ran 2x a week for 8weeks with test cyp and had great results.So 2 times a week 150mg per shot will be 300mg a week and other test stack you will see desired results
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Joe Longo User profile
150mgs Every 4 days is good do t do too much and give it 3 weeks before young dose.this will take 3weeks to kick in fully
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Is this real?..I heard they stopped making this along time ago.i read that alpha pharma gets there products from licensed pharmaceutical companies so I heard they are good but anyone have any information on this product?.thanks
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evan johnson User profile Expert
This they stopped making the original “Parabolan” a while back but that doesn`t stop companies from making tren products with the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester attached instead of acetate or enanthate. While I generally prefer tren acetate as it keeps blood levels the most stable with its short half life meaning frequent injections, some people don`t want to inject that often. This product is a great alternative for you if that happens to be the case. I can assure you that this product is 100% legit.
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Vasya User profile Expert
The French pharmaceutical firm Negma stopped producing the original Parabolan over 20 years ago. Production of the hormone trenbolone bound to a hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester has been resumed by other companies to meet the demands of consumers, including Alpha Pharma which is licensed for pharmaceutical production in some countries.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Nope. It`s just a box full of injectable M&M`s. I`m joking. Often in the dark world of big pharmaceutical companies, when patents expire, new research emerges, or technology paves a new road to expanded manufacturing capabilities, a newer, occasionally better drug will take the place of something in the market. The old drug is then discontinued or picked up by other manufacturers who`ll then produce generics. So while something may no longer be made by it`s original creators, the formula can simply be replicated by another company. I`ve used Alpha Pharma and liked it. The option they provide to purchase their products in ampules is very convenient and the quality is impressive. The packaging you`ll receive from Alpha will have tracking seals on it allowing you to go online and verify it. A nice assurance most companies don`t offer.