How would you guys run this? I`ve heard 2 weeks prior to your last pin and then 14 days after? Can I combine this with arimidex?
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Michael Smith User profile
Answered: May 02, 2020
14 days after. Don`t combine with arimadex get clomid. Dosages depends on cycle.
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POOKIE User profile
Answered: May 02, 2020
Nolva is normally used for PCT Post Cycle Therapy which can start 14 days after your last injection if using long esters. Arimidex is used ON cycle (not post) to balance your testosterone to estrogen conversion; it keeps it from getting too high and causing side effects. As MS mentioned above, you can also use clomid for PCT. Good luck
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: May 02, 2020
nolva can be “run” to mitigate gyno while on cycle. It binds to estrogen around the breast area. 40mg ed at first sign of sentivity around nipple until sensitive stop. Or nolva can be run with pct at 40mg ed for 2 weeks and then 20mg ed for another 2 weeks. Some will also add clomid with nolva during pct at 100/100/50/50. Pct will start 2 weeks after last test enanth or test cyp esters. Or 3 days after last pin of testP. So when to start pct depends on the length of the gear esters. good luck buddy!
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Barry Gibson User profile
Answered: May 02, 2020
2 weeks after your cycle ends and fir about 2 weeks or a bit more if needed. Generally 20mg daily however can go to 30 or 40mg if required.
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Thanks for the great answers guys! Also I do have a bit of gyno not heaps but I did an estagon test and got told my estagon is quite high… So I probably would do nolvdex… But could I only take nolvdex on its own….? Just because as dumb as this sounds taking all that other stuff is going to confuse me… I was hoping I could just take nolvdex on its own ..? Also will nolvdex help me keep the muscle I have gained from the sustanon ?? Sorry kinda new at this..
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Branko User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
You can take arimidex to battle gyno sides. Should always have it on hand before any cycle. Take .5mil o half a pill, eod…or every third day. Get some asap!
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Just User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
You always lose some muscle post cycle but training hard and eating like before will help
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JB205 User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
I would recommend doing clomid and nolvadex and even HCG but it`s not necessary so much in your case. Just keep asking questions and learning, you can even look up some great videos on YouTube that can better help explain the pct process. If you are off on this process, you can have a real shity time coming off cycle and yes, you could lose all your gains pretty quick. The safe you are and the better you feel coming off, is key to being able to stay healthy and keep hitting the gym to maintain the hard work you have achieved. Skipping on things can jeopardize that process. Good luck.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
AHH well thats different. Nolva will definitely help with the gyno and absolutely indicated. It may or may not be enough alone to return your levels to normal
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Shadow User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
Nolva will help, but if you want to get rid of the gyno entirely, you needed to run some Letro!!! In my opinion, it`s the best at totally getting rid of gyno. Good luck ..
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
You can certainly try and be sure to have labs checked again in a few weeks. That way you`ll know if its enough or not. Without labs there`s really no way of knowing for sure besides your gyno clearing up. Hope it works for you, sometimes simple is best.
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Can someone please tell me, I have been on sustanon 250 for about 7 weeks going to do another 5 weeks and cycle off. Can I use just nolvdex for my PCT? I was using 2.5ml a week of sus but now I`m on 1.2ml a week. How much nolvdex should I use ?? Please help me
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MegaCycle User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
Yes, you can run nolva for PCT. Take 1 week off then start PCT. —- in all studies involving Nolvadex doses used to stimulate endogenous Testosterone production, only 20–40mg daily of Nolvadex was utilized, and it has in fact been shown that doubling the dose to 40mg or any higher will not produce any significant difference in endogenous Testosterone secretion. The only reason why many elect to utilize 40mg daily of Nolvadex for the first 1-2 weeks of a PCT program is for the purpose of achieving optimal peak blood plasma levels quicker so as to ensure HPTA recovery quicker. This isn`t necessary and just further increases your risk of potential sides. Dosing of a PCT including Nolvadex is as followed:6-8 Weeks: 20mg ED
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nickname_764 User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
i wpuld ise nolva and hcg always as pct. when you use synthetic test is shuts down your natural production. hcg will and only restart your body back up again. idc what anyone else has to say on this thread. clomid is junk.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
tamoxifen (nolva) was never designed to affect the HPT axis. It does this as a side affect and mildly in most. It works great for prevention of gyno but MEH at best for PCT. I have ACTUALLY had my levels tested during a nolva only PCT and mildly elevated my FSH/LH and end test not at all. Clomid and HCG were actually designed to increase LH and FSH and then endogenous test. They do this effectively and rapidly. They also have almost the same mechanism of action so prob unnecessary to use both. I use HCG or clomid alone for PCT and have for decades also had my levels checked literally dozens of times. It probably doesnt hurt to take all the extra compounds but really not needed. Dont believe me? Spend $50 and check your own levels
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pat User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
Use nolva at 40 my for 2 weeks then at 20mg for another 2 weeks 2 weeks after last injection bro
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Branko User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
Nolvadex is not a serm. It just works to block estrogen receptors. It can/ should be part of PCT ,but you need a serm like Clomid or HCG to restart you natural production . For nolva take 2 weeks after last pin at 40/40/20/20. And for real, get some HCG or clomid, even both if you want.
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Heavy Lifted 91 User profile
Answered: Mar 17, 2020
Why don`t you just run the full PCT protocol just to be safe? I can`t understand for the life of me why would anyone want to do something half ass and risk their system.
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Has anyone had trouble with this product shipping lately I ordered back on 4 February, all my anabolic`s have been received without any delays.(Aster Test, winstrol) I am still waiting on this product has anyone experienced delays or shipping issues? It says it made it to the origin country customs and was shipped out but has never reached the USA “Yet”. I am just eager to start my cycle but I do not have my PCT in my hands so that is of concern.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 05, 2020
Does it have a number of countdown days to your shipment?
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nickname_88 User profile
Answered: Mar 05, 2020
We can`t knock your excitement. But anyone will tell you just be a little patient even though I`m sure you already are. Sounds like it`s almost all came through. But yes all shipping has been a little slow lately.
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Rollinballz User profile
Answered: Mar 05, 2020
all you will hear on this board is `be patient` from the people who want their free $2 for posting a reply. I have been a Naps customer for 5+ years with over 20 orders and used to rave about them and refer them No longer. I placed my first order for color tops on 12/20 and still have not received them. I have had over 20 messages back and forth with them in that time and continue to get the run-around. “we sent request to warehouse – wait – referred to upper management – wait – we sent again – wait. All i ever got was two tracking numbers for a label being printed with ZERO movement or confirmation on the tracking number the item was ever sent. I am beyond disappointed. For 99% this is a GREAT site. We all mess up but I am underwhelmed with the “service” on this order.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 05, 2020
Obviously better to have PCTin hand but a couple things. I have never believed in Nolva alone for PCT it was never designed to increase LH and FSH and does so only marginally compared to drugs like HCG and clomid which were actually designed to do this and do it much more effectively for most then Nolva. if you are using nolva alone then i imagine it is not a terribly harsh cycle that you are running anyhow so a typical pyramid with a decent taper at the end is all we ever did back in the day to mitigate the effects of lowT secondary to AAS, which is the only reason to to PCT in the first place. If it were me i would do a taper and very likely your tamoxifen will be in before the end of your cycle anyhow. like i said if you you were only using nolva to begin with alone it doesnt help that much anyhow. dont believe me get you LH and FSH levels tested 3/4 of the way through your PCT. I did and my levels were slighly lower then before i started the nolva. I have heard this over and over. It will cost about 40 bucks. Nolva works great for prevention of gyno but as a single agent for PCT clomid or HCG far and away better. to wait for the tiny benefit that nova would give doesnt seem worth it at least not to me
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Redpill User profile
Answered: Mar 05, 2020
Orders are backed due to covid , and yes I have an order still not here yet from China land that was ordered January 26th. Patience brother , it should come to you soon ish .
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S-C-J User profile
Answered: Mar 05, 2020
So your order shipped right after things came back online, and the DCs likely got a surge of orders. Its really hard to say!
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I`ve been hearing that a bunch of people that have been ordering from here have been busted once they get the product and that`s why brands say coming soon. So once everything is sold there`s no more nap and a bunch of people in prison. Can anyone confirm this????
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
Where have you been hearing this from? Was it a little green man or a blue bird by your window?lol please tell me your joking right? Seriously why would the DEA spend time and money on a single gym rat with a few bottles of gear? Shipping is an issue for apps like DH Gate and Wish right now too because of the Corona virus. Have faith and use caution where you get your information from. Best of luck mate.
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
I cant confirm this because is not true, i have received from Naps many oders without any problem, the products what are ” comming soon” are from brands that are based in China or Asia and there is a big problem now because of that virus, if u chose an European brand u will receive your order fast and safe, chose Aaster or Hilma, top brands.
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
Things get like this because of the situation in China it will be back to it`s original self in a few weeks x6g
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
Well, NAPS has been around a decade. I have been with them for years and made many many orders. I received 1 two weeks ago and have one processing. I would attribute the delays to problems in China more than anything. That being said you are ordering a controlled substance without an Rx and while i feel like the situation you are speaking of is highly unlikely i never fool myself and think that this is completely without risk. My old man used to say “if youre going to be dumb then you better learn to be tough.” Again, i think its unlikely but i am aware of the potential for consequences (however rare that is) and so should you.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
It appears this is all due to shipping issues regarding the China coronavirus and New Years delays. I would wait on ordering if at all possible.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
That is the stupidest thing I have ever fucking heard this is a mulit million dollar company been around for ten years I`ve been going thru them
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So I wanting to get more info on clomid and Nolvadex for pct just curious as to if I should be taking them everyday together or do I do 4 weeks with the clomid and then. Four weeks with nolva ? Thanks in advance !
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Dec 18, 2019
A good protocol is clomid at 50mg first 2 weeks then drop to 25 for another 2. At the same time nolva 40mg for 2 weeks then drop to 20 for another 2. good luck
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Pincushion User profile
Answered: Dec 18, 2019
Different cycle`s need different PCTs from time to time. For example, if someone does a basic 12 week cycle of test and deca, let`s say 400/400 week each, then a standard nolvadex pct of 40/40/20/20 mgs week for four weeks should usually suffice. However for a let`s say 20 week cycle of test, tren, EQ and anadrol 50 for a Kickstarter, then you may require a more elaborate PCT of both clomid and nolvadex, and maybe even some HCG. It all kinda depends on how hard and how long you suppressed your natural test. Keep doing your research and be safe brother.
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skitt User profile
Answered: Dec 18, 2019
Pincushion make a few valid points here as it can and does vary in the sense of your cycle dosage and length.. as clomid stimulate LH and FSH and Nova stimulates LH production… With Nova it will not prevent the build up of Estro but it does prevent it from acting on certain receptors mainly in the chest area protecting the nipples from gyno.. As clomid also acts as an anti estro and raises natural test levels meaning you get the best of both worlds.. Nova does stimulate LH as mentioned and will help raise natural test… Usually with test only cycles you can get away with using one or the other and don`t need both.. A lot of people like to use both for extra protection.. same with HCG it is not needed for a basic 12 week test cycle it can be used yes but not needed as in my opinion it should be used with heavier cycles that harsher compounds are being used and higher doses that will shut your natural test down even harder… Even with a cycle with 2 compounds like test and deca you could get away with just using clomid but that would depend on your doses.. A lot of times all this can be over kill unless using multiple compounds and high doses.. but again you would just need to try them out and find what works best for you.. basic PCT with clomid would be 100 for first two weeks then drop to 50 for 2 more weeks.. If Nova is in the mix then you can do 40 first 2 weeks then drop to 20 mg for 2 more weeks… with these protocals you can play with the doses compared to the strength of your cycle… as stated look them both up and do a bit of research on them and find out for yourself so you can determine the best coarse of action for the cycle you are taking. good luck
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 18, 2019
Clomid 50/50/25/25 and in the same time Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. Me i usualy i do PCT just with Nolva, and is good.
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omeed haji User profile
Answered: Dec 18, 2019
If you have both in hand just do it together 100clomid first day and 50ed for 4 weeks and 40nolva first 3 day and 20ed after
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Dec 18, 2019
Yeah. You take them everyday together. You may be able to get away with just one but the longer your test is suppressed the more you lose. You just spent money, time, work, sweat… to male the gains you did. To me it makes sense to spend a fee more bucks, go aggressive on the PCT amd try to keep all your gains.
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I got nolva and some test e from dpharma, but some sibutramine (whatever it is – about 50+ pills) got added in as well. Am I supposed to take it with the nolva or something? Thanks.
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
If you didn`t order it and don`t know what it is, then absolutely do not take it. At one point I received a stealth sachets with the wrong pills, I only knew because they were a different color and size than my other 13 sachets. In any case, obviously someone`s order probably got the number transposed and was then included in your order. I would put it aside and open a help desk ticket and let Napsgear know, because someone ordered it and will be looking for it. Granted napsgear will not have you ship it back, it`s more for informational purposes.
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
Sobutramine is an appetite suppressant. If you are trying to lose weight I guess you got a free weight loss sup if not I wouldn’t take it. Personally I would prefer something to metabolize food better than to suppress appetite. Swole is the goal and muscles don’t run on air.
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Anonymous 467 User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
Yeah man not to worry. If they messed up your order you can submit a ticket with naps to get it fixed. If you got something extra then i guess you scored done free product. Don`t take it if you don`t need to. Good luck bro
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
Be safe because if you did not order it then at least you should know what it is you know? Ask naps first what it is before using it just incase it was a mixup.
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Manster User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
If it came extra then congrats but if it`s a mistake and yiu got it instead of a product you ordered just let naps know and they will take care of it.
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
Looks like you got extra goodies. If you are unfamiliar with it and don`t know what it is then don`t take it
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I`ve bought this product a couple times before but this time it showed up in different packaging and is a different color pill, every other time they were a lighter shade of blue. These look more like the arimedex tabs. Did something change or did I the wrong stuff?
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barclord User profile
Answered: Nov 10, 2019
I doubt it. Oftentimes, the manufacturer will change colors or shapes of pills for security and dating purposes. I have received my GP orals in several different formats and all have been correct and quality ensured. Naps will probably confirm this if you open up a ticket with them. Sometimes you may also be able to verify with the batch info at the manufacturer site. Good luck!
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Nov 11, 2019
Security and safety reasons necessitate the companies sometime change color or tablet shape. Also if the major warehouse supplier is out of a specific colorant or in the case of a solution, if just another different carrier oil is available that can happen for injectables too. If you bought the correct item and the package has the correct name you`re good to go. Also if you happen to have an authentication code, you can verify online at the appropriate website. If in doubt regardless it never hurts to get a confirmation or to alert napsgear regarding your concern. Naps replies within a day.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Nov 11, 2019
Probably they just changed the dye used in the pills. If they changed the packaging than they might have changed the production facility. I doubt they would package arimidex as Nolvadex so you should be good. Good luck hope it’s just that.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Nov 11, 2019
I`ve had that with Geneza pills. They will be the same potency but a different type of pill. They seem to go back and forth on a solid compoun and what looks like a coated pill. I have not noticed a difference. I suspect dragon may have the same variation. Most likely different production processes. Good luck
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Nov 11, 2019
Just the maker using a different talc to press the pills.its going to be the same exact compound
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nickname_744 User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 11, 2019
Ugls get water coloring they have on hand. Dragon is good but off you don`t want to deal with this sort of stuff get alpha pharma
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Im currently running a six month cycle 500mg test e and 500mg boldenone per week, started april 10th ending in november, i know thats a little long but im just looking for suggestions for pct im definitely gonna need a strong pct after this, any suggestions are mich appreciated
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 06, 2019
Nolvadex and Clomid are always going to be ran for every PCT. HCG is optional but I`ve never felt the need to run HCG for restoring my levels.
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ViktorN User profile
Answered: Aug 07, 2019
It is a little longer than normal (5 months) you look like you will be on for 7 months. This means your testes has been shut down for an extended period of time. It’s May take a little longer to jump start your boys back again. There’s always a higher risk when you shut down your natural test for long period of time. You might be ok. Everyone is different. But EQ is a milder aas than test and tren. I would recommend you do the normal PCT. 40mg of Nolva for 2 weeks. Then 20mg after that for 2 more weeks. 100mg of Clomid for 2 weeks then 50mg for another 2 weeks or until you start to see you boys are back. I never had to but hcg can help stimulate your Leydig cells in your testes and make your testicle grown in volume :). You can take this as soon as you stop the cycle but you have to wait 2 weeks after your last test/eq pin to start your pct. hope that help. In short you will be ok even long cycle of testE and EQ but it may take you a couple of weeks longer to get you natural test running again. Good luck my friend!
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: Aug 07, 2019
I’m going to line out what I think is your best option for coming off that long of a cycle. I’m not saying it’s the only way, but if it were me, this is what I would do. I’m assuming you’re running Boldenone Undecylenate, if you’re running a different ester of boldenone then adjust accordingly. Stop the EQ about 6 weeks before you plan to PCT. 10 weeks before your PCT starts add in HCG at 250ius twice a week. This will get your balls up and running. 4 weeks before your PCT stop the Enanthate and switch over to a short ester. Test Prop or Test Ace. This allows the long ester test to clear your system while the short esters support your hormonal needs. This is important because you want to be able to come right off the test and hop right on the pct meds. 10 days before you start your Nolva and Clomid, increase the HCG dose to 1000 ius a day and run it until you start Nolva/Clomid. During your last week of Testosterone use, only use a TRT dose and make sure your last test injection is 3 days before you start Nolva and Clomid. I know this seems overly complicated, but I believe it gives you the best shot at recovering after that long of a cycle. Get your levels checked 1 month after you stop all PCT meds. If it’s not where it needs to be, feel free to run another PCT.
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Maison User profile
Answered: Aug 07, 2019
The week you take you last shot run hcg 1000ius eod for 10days then take clomid 50mgs ed for one month and nolvadex 20mgs for one month.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 07, 2019
Just run nolvadex at 40mg per day for weeks 1-2, followed by 20mg per day for weeks 3-6. Additional compounds are not necessary based on modern research.
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Can I use nolva for sensitive nipples during my cycle and still use it for PCT and have it be effective? Of course, I know that I could use an AI during cycle but I just wanted to know.
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Muscle Pup User profile
Answered: May 10, 2019
Are you saying use nolva instead of an AI during cycle? I would definitely use an AI even if just a low dose of 1mg per week. Yes, you can use nolva but it’ll be less effective since it doesn’t reduce your estrogen. It blocks it from reacting.
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Tren Man User profile
Answered: May 10, 2019
Depends on how much test you are pinning and if you are sensitive to estrogen. At 250mg a week nolva would be fine but at 500mg a week or higher I would recommend letro to be safe
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Jaris User profile
Answered: May 10, 2019
I would recommend ai, bcs nolvadex is not ai, so. . Good luck with cycle
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ViktorN User profile
Answered: May 10, 2019
Depends on the concentration of what you pin yourself nolva would work for gyno only symptoms. And it sounds like it. However, not knowing dose and sounds like you r new to this. I would use AI like Arimidex to deactivate the enzyme conversation from test to estrogen. With nolva (tamoxifen) it’s a competitive inhibitor which still have estrogen binding to the enzyme but at a slower rate. Depends on your sensitivity to the concentration of estrogen you may still have gyno. Since test will be converted. So take AI. At end of cycle take Nolva. Because you do need estrogen but at low level. Also take clomids to kick start your huevos to produce natural test. hope that answer your question and good luck my friend!!
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mchilds User profile
Answered: May 10, 2019
Yes you can as long as you aren’t using a 19-Nor and using Aromasin. Exemestane and Nolva are the 2 that can be used together and work synergistically unlike Nolva and other AIs which can compete with each other and reduce the effects of the other.
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B Rad User profile Expert
Answered: May 10, 2019
If youre just using it temporarily for a short duration while on cycle then youll be fine using it again while running your PCT. Of course if youre having chronic high estrogen while on cycle then an AI is the best method of dealing with that.
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Should I use Nolvadex or Clomid after my first ever cycle? I have been taking 50mg injectable winstrol everyday for 6 weeks and 500mg per week of test e for 8 weeks. I am looking to only get one of Nolvadex or Clomid.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 30, 2019
Either is effective man. Clomid is usually more prone to cause side effects, but is slightly more effective based on clinical trials. If you are going to use Clomid take 50mg a day for ten days or so and then drop it to 25mg for another two or three weeks. If you choose Nolva do the same timing but use 40mg and 20 mg respectively. You have other options as well, you don`t have to take a serm. You could blast HCG right after the gear clears your system. To do this take 500iu of HCG daily starting 10 days after last pin for a duration of 10 days. Then you are done. You can also taper off the test. Wait 10days after your last pin and then use 25 mg of test every four days for a week. This is . 1 ml. .. A tiny amount. After that week cut the dose in half. 12. 5 mg every other day. You need an insulin pin to dose this accurately but the small doses can be shot sub q so it`s kind of a convience after a week or two of that drop the test completely. Body will take over from there. . this has the least sides and is what I recommend
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Vincent Valentine User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 30, 2019
I personally prefer Nolvadex over Clomid, as I tend to get more eye related issues (extreme tracers at night) when taking Clomid – although eye issues are a potential side effect for both Nolva and Clomid, to be clear. Nolvadex is more effective at stimulating natural testosterone production than Clomid on a milligram for milligram basis. There`s also evidence that Nolvadex can increase LH responsiveness while Clomid lowers it over time, making Nolvadex perhaps a better choice for PCT purposes. But the bottom line here is that both compounds are very effective at helping the body recover during PCT, and while some may develop preferences over which is better, both will get the job done when taken at the correct dosages.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 30, 2019
Honestly man, with this being your first cycle, I`d recommend sucking it up and getting both Clomid and Nolvadex. I`ve seen guys not do well with one drug while having great success with another. My personal preference is to run both. Clomiphene longer than Nolvadex, both at clinically recommended doses, which are typically lower than bodybuilding doses. Something else to consider is which aromatase inhibitor you were using during the cycle. While something like Arimidex will be sufficient during cycle, it can produce a nasty rebound effect after it is discontinued causing estrogen to flood your system. I always reccomend a suicidal aromatase inhibitor towards the end of a cycle, through post cycle therapy, and even after PCT. Some may say it`s overkill, but it work and works very well.
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RJB User profile
Answered: Mar 30, 2019
Agree with JP, with this being your first cycle you might want to run both.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 31, 2019
If you are going for single compound PCT, standard practice is Nolvadex or toremifene. So Nolvadex over Clomid for sure, Clomid is only in 2 compound PCTs in addition to another SERM.
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Greg Landes User profile
Answered: Mar 31, 2019
You need full PCT, even on a 1 month cycle. Wait a few days after the last injection and then I recommend:hCG – 2000IU every other day for 20 days. Clomid – 50 mg is taken twice per day for 30 days. Nolvadex – 20 mg twice per day for 45 days.
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Ill be running adrol at 50mg a day, would nolva been a good anti to run during that?
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 03, 2019
Nolvadex shines best during recovery, (post cycle therapy.) A better option would be something like Anastrozole or Aromasin. I`m partial to Aromasin due to the estrogenic rebound effects I get from Anastrozole. Also, as if it`s not been beaten to death enough already, oral only cycles are like a million dollar super car with twenty dollar tires. No matter how “mild” the bro science community claims something is, testosterone based cycles will always be the only way to get your money`s worth out of an oral steroid.
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Lliam User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 03, 2019
Anadrol can antagonize estrogen receptors in some people, however, it does so without converting to estrogen because Anadrol is not effected by the aromatase enzyme. If you are experiencing estrogenic side effects from Anadrol then using a SERM such as Nolvadex should out-compete Anadrol at the estrogen receptor and alleviate those symptoms. Keep in mind that anti-aromatase compounds such as letrozole, anastrozole, or exemestane will have no effect on the estrogenic side effects of Anadrol.
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Doug User profile
Answered: Feb 03, 2019
Actually an AI would do absolutely nothing during anadrol because it doesn`t convert. So the only thing you could actually use to help with the highly estrogenic side effects of drol would be a SERM like nolvadex. I use it during every drol cycle. I start at 10mg twice a day n if I feel gyno sides I up it by 10mg until it subsides. Then assuming us run test during it n continue the test ud then run ur AI as in aromasin, letro or arimidex. Aromasin bring the best option because it`s also a suicidal n only drops ur estrogen by about 85%. Arimidex isn`t as strong and letrozole can tend to be too strong n cream ur levels.
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Chris M User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 04, 2019
Definitely wanna take Aromasin with it! Drol doesnt convert to estrogen but seems to throw the receptors into overdrive. Safest/smartest thing is to limit the conversion of test to estrogen in the first place and Aromasin is definitely the best for that and has little to no side effects if ran properly. Nolva will give you a big estrogen rebound and nobody wants that. Keep your diet clean, run a small to moderate dose of test, run Aromasin at 12.5mg every other day, and you will go into beast mode and get great results!
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anonymous_4849
Answered: Feb 04, 2019
I’m currently running anadrol with Sustanon and Winstrol. And I was using aromasin as an AI but I’ll be honest it’s strong as shit. Aromasin is a suicide blocker so it kill your estrogen. That being said I was always tired. I like Arimadex better to manage the estrogen and Winstrol to manage the bloat.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 04, 2019
Nolvadex (tamoxifen) can be useful in an emergency sitation to treat gyno from elevated estrogen, but really you should be using a true aromatase inhibitor such as Anastrozole (arimidex) or Exemenstane (aromasin) while on cycle. Note that Anadrol is unable to convert to Estrogen via the aromatase enzyme, but many users still notice elevated estrogen, especially in conjunction with high testosterone dosages. Have a true AI on hand, not just nolva!