What is a good dosage in conjunction with my PCT? If you can include dose, frequency , and duration.Thank you
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RyanVogel
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I would take 500iu 3x a week
crazy Dan
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There`s many ways of using hcg my friend! pct is to get your natty back asap. Using hcg can shorten the time of recovery. At end of your cycle pin 1,000iu eod until it`s gone. Start this when you pin your last testE or yestCyp. then transition into your standard pct which is clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 for 4 weeks. Just remember that the sooner you regain your natty the more gain you`ll get to keep. good luck brother and don`t forget to vote.
JD Cycle
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Bunch of protocols. 250iu twice a week if you had a smaller cycle. 500iu twice a week for moderate. If you ran Tren or Deca, 1000iu eod for 5 pins, then drop to 500iu eod. The more harsh my cycle, the higher the HCG I use
JamesEarl
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Generally 500iu daily three times weekly is also my suggestion.
anonymous_1212
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Hey NewB, I use 500IU EOD for a total of 10,000IU 3-4 wks after the last injection of AAS. If you only have one 5000IU vile this will be okay but use 500 IU EOD until gone, but start your Clomiphene right after at 100/100/50/50 and then Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. Have a good PCT bro and be safe.
JuiceDoc
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I begin taking hcg a week after my last shot and a week before staring other pct compounds. I take 750iu every 2-3 days for 5 weeks.
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Hey guys just a heads up, and I`ve seen a few questions about this lately. HCG has been reclassified as a biologic (it used to be a peptide). This is a move by Merk (and other big pharma companies) who makes Pregnyl to block compounding pharmacies from making it for TRT and weight loss , thereby increasing sales of their product IMO. This changes who can compound it and the way it can be prescribed. It may be nothing or it may be something, and why I`m printing this and why you should care is that it is increasing difficult to get HCG in the US, some of you on TRT may have noticed. Anyhow, how this affects availability for companies like 24roids is anyone`s guess and there are other options like gonadorelin and clomid, but I have much more experience with HCG. This sort of thing happens frequently and can be a pain in the ass. So , fertigen is also POW (until Nov 9 I believe, I know I meant to type this earlier sorry) and cheap, maybe a good time to stock up just in case-I know i did. It may mean nothing for UGL`s but why chance it IMO. Just an FYI hope it helps. Have a great day everyone.
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JD Cycle
Damn. I was not aware of this. Good looking out brother.
JamesEarl
Thanks Dr Scott, I have always suspected some issues would arise as it is a biologic compound, however I did not realize it would be a commercialized move to prevent compounding so the pharmaceutical companies could make more profit. But regardless isn`t there a synthetic rdna based hcg also that has been available?
nickname_311
Interesting read as usual. Thanks for letting us know. Keep on giving good information.
JohnSmith
This is a good thing to let the community know, and something my endocrinologist and I were discussing a few weeks ago. I get it prescribed periodically along with clomid, and am on a low dose in between appointments to keep my balls full before he prescribes it for “treatment,” of natural production and fertility. He discussed I may need to get more frequent prescriptions or stock up.
Onyx
Great info. Thank you!
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I am considering doing my first cycle and am just trying to ask all the questions to get my ducks in a row for when I need to do my PCT. My question here is, when you receive the HCG from what I gather it comes with two vials. Do you mix the appropriate amount of water needed for the whole cycle of HCG into the bottle of HCG and then store it in the refrigerator so you can just use your needle directly from the HCG container every time? Or do you only mix the appropriate amount of water in the HCG bottle for that ONE injection? Does the HCG turn back into a powder form after you use the syringe to pull out the liquid? Sorry if I sound like an idiot! Thanks in advance!
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JD Cycle
With your first cycle, assuming you`re only running test, I would say you can skip the HcG and just run Nolvadex and Clomid for PCT. Your first two cycles your body rebounds fairly easy. I had zero issues my first two runs, but caveat that with I didn`t use Nandrolones either. My thirdnI introduced Nandrolone (NPP) and it definitely was needed. That said, I would get Bac water if you can. My protocol is to inject 1 vial with 0.5ml and a second with 1ml bac water. After my last pin, I shoot 0.1ml (1,000iu) every other day for the first vial, so 5 pins. Then I do the same volume of 0.1ml from the second, but then it`s only 500ius. I run this for ten. Start clomid and nolva two weeks after last pin and you should be good.
Slamm3r
There are many ways to skin a cat, but normally HCG comes in small vials in powdered form. Don`t use the vial of water that comes with it to reconstitute. Buy some bacteriostatic water, you can find it on 24roids. the amount of water used to reconstitute will dictate the concentration. more water, means less HCG per shot, easier to measure etc. Depending on how much water you add to the HCG, you can keep it in the small vial, but if you add say 5ml you cant fit it in the small HCG vial and you will have to transfer the HCG to an sterile empty 10ml vial. With Bacteriostatic water, and in the fridge, the reconstituted HCG will last 1 month before it goes bad. You will draw each shot individuating from the vial. Say you add 5ml Bacteriostatic water to the HCG, then each 1ml shot will have 1000iu HCG. If you add 2ml water, then every 0.4ml shot will contain 1000iu HCG.No, HCG will not turn back into powder once mixed.It`s good you are asking questions. That`s how we learn. Good luck on your first cycle brother!
nickname_21
Dont think to much into it. Just get 3 bottles of test 250. Run 500mg forn12 to 15 weeks eat at a slight surplus add 200 per day every few weeks when weight stalls. 2 weeks after lastbpin start up a basic pct boom that`s it
nickname_311
Yes you need to mix the whole things together stirred around gently then inject I would do at least one thousand per week split into two dosages.
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How long will one of these last?say I pin 2x a week?Say I pin 250-500iu twice a week?
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crazy Dan
At 500iu twice a week is 1,000iu a week. The product come in 5,000iu so it will last 5 weeks. But if you pin 250iu twice a week you will pin 500iu per week. This will last you 10weeks. So either 5 weeks or 10 weeks. Good luck buddy! and don`t forget to vote.
Wolfman
Another question if u don’t mind, how long do u run HCG for?until bottle is empty?or regular 4 week pct length?thank u
crazy Dan
depends on what you want. Hcg to keep your balls full throughout the cycle then 12 weeks long for a 12 weeks cycle. But at low dose of 250iu or 500iu per week. hcg can be used at end of cycle to wake your boys up. This is usually 2 weeks in length and doesn’t have to be exactly just as long as they wake up from hibernation. So you pin from 500iu eod to 1,500 eod for 2 weeks and transition into pct but not with pct. Whatever protocol you use you just need to calculate the amount of hcg you need and therefore how many bottles you would need. let us know if you have more questions.
crazy Dan
btw, once you reconstituted the hcg you need to use it all within 30 days at the latest. Sooner is better. This is also why you reconstitute hcg with bacteriostatic water since it has a preservative in it to extend the hcg shelf life as long as possible.
JD Cycle
How long depends on whether you do 250 or 500. At 500iu twice a week, you`ll get 5 weeks. If you`re using the entire cycle, I`d run 250iu twice a week for 10 weeks. If you use purely PCT, I like to do 1000iu every other day for 5 pins, then drop to 500iu for 10 pins. Tons of different protocols you can follow.
nickname_311
If it was me I would be doing at least a thousand per week on that
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Looks like this will be Potw for next week according to the poll.
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nickname_311
Has there been any other time for a PCT product? I don`t remember of any.
crazy Dan
Shit brother maybe it`s time to stock up hcg!! Always good to have hcg while on cycle or to help with pct. Too bad it`s not Singani hcg cus that`s shit pop my boys right back up from hibernation real fast! Sun pharma is ok too. But at $17 a pop??? That`s not a deal. It`s a steal!!! we shall see.
PunchNpie
Originally I was hoping for DP Deca 500 to win, but in all honesty I wouldn`t mind stocking up on some low prices HCG. Can never have too much of either on hand I suppose.
JD Cycle
Usually whatever is in the lead by Wednesday wins.
nickname_311
I`d say Monday whatever ahead wins.
TonyStark
It`s a sign to stock up heavy on HCG! I guess GP products being out of stock is a blessing in disguise.
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I did a cycle of test e for 3 months at 500mg/week and now I`ve been cruising for a month at 160mg/week. I want to keep my boys healthy and full. I just received this today and my question is how should I dose this just to keep my boys right?
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JohnCummings
500 iu once a week seems to work well for me
Cyclone
The tried and true protocol is 250iu dosed twice a week – this is pretty universal for HCG “maintenance” on the testes.
Slamm3r
250-500iu twice a week.
crazy Dan
Sure thing my friend! Discard the saline solution it came with and get bacteriostatic water. Then add 1.0ml of bacteriostatic water to the vial. gently swirl (not shake) to mix. Then use an insulin syringe preferably a u-50 or a u-30 to draw out 250iu of hcg which is “5” marking on the syringe. pin 250iu twice a week. But fir me i pin 500iu twice a week. With 500iu you have to draw to the “10” marking on the syringe. i find that the longer you suppress your boys the longer it takes fir hcg to kick start your boys . Unless you increase the dose of hcg. this protocol i gave you is pinning while you are cycling. But if you want to kick start your boys at end of the cycke then you would need 1,000-1,500iu eod for 2 weeks but this is moot for you since you are on trt. hope that makes sense buddy! good luck and don`t forget to vote.
nickname_311
Honestly if it was me I want deal with it. Until you are off. If you want you can do 500 a week split into multiple injections making 500 a week and continue on with that and be fine. That was me I`d rather not have that cuz I`ll come back once off
JD Cycle
I use it to kickstart my pct instead of running straight through. I pin 1000 ius EOD for 5 days, then 500iu eod for 10 days. All after my last injection.
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How do I preserve this since it`s in 1 single sample and how long can I preserve it?
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PunchNpie
I keep mine in the refrigerator and usually don`t store it once mixed more than 30 days.
JohnCummings
It deteriorates maybe 10% after a month. So, keep it in the fridge away from food or contamination. I like to keep mine in a sterilized plastic container.
TR86
The gents above are correct about refrigeration. However you need to use bacteriostatic water to preserve it. If you mix with saline it will deteriorate much more rapidly. 24roids has bac water and a couple other places online do as well. Hopefully this helps.
crazy Dan
No it`s not ampoule my friend! The sterile saline solution comes as an ampoule but the lyophilized hcg is in a vial with a rubber stopper. Still it is a one time injection if you reconstitute the hcg with the saline solution. What you need to do is purchase a bottle of bacteriostatic water which has benzyl alcohol which acts as a preservative. Once you reconstitute the 5000iu hcg with 1ml of bacteriostatic water you can store it in a fridge and use it for no more than 30 days given that you use aseptic technique at all time including wiping the stopper with alcohol before and after each draw. 5000iu in 1ml will yield you 10 pins of 500iu of hcg. So each pin is 0.1ml. In short, reconstitute your hcg with bacteriostatic water and you can use and store it for 4 weeks or 30 days. Good luck brother and dont forget to vote fir GP sustanon270 for potw. thanks!
JohnSmith
It VERY MUCH IS an ampule. I’ve used this product a dozen times. See product description and my answer below.
crazy Dan
I thought i was trippin so i went into my fridge and confirm my Sun Pharma hcg. I have a 10,000iu hcg Sun Pharm and IT IS IN A VIAL with a yellow safety cap and a rubber stopper. You might be right with the 5,000iu hcg Sun pharma but i can’t imagine they put a 5,000iu in an ampoule and a 10,000iu hcg in a vial. So you might be right with the 5,000iu and ampoule And in the case my bad buddy. I have a 10,000iu vial with a stopper. all my Singani 5000iu comes in vial with rubber stopper. my German Remedies comes in vial with rubber stopper and my Bharat 10,000 and 5,000 comes in rubber stopper as well. Any way you can wrap open ampoule in aluminum foil if you are in a pinch. but try to use it up asap. good luck brother!
nickname_311
My question is why aren`t you taking the full 5,000 I try to have 10000 on hand when I`m trying to come off of anything
JohnSmith
He didn’t say anything about coming off or needing 10,000 when asking about 5000. I’m not sure how’s to addresses or helps answer the question asked.
LennyCardone
I`m not coming off. I`ve been on a long lower cycle which I`m about to ramp up and I`m adding in 5000- 10000 because I`m a little nervous how long my nuts turned into peanuts. Just a little precaution to let them know they`re still my friends and I care about them
Swoll,onthe,low
If you have a clean vial or you can order it up one with the rubber stopper. Me personally I would draw all up into a syringe and then just reuse a syringe and inject a little bit everyday or fill a couple syringes depending on how you dilute it put them in the fridge and get several doses out of each syringe or fill multiple syringes with one dose each syringe store in the refrigerator
JohnSmith
A few of the people have not use this and don`t understand your question. The raw powder comes in a glass amp and the a 1ml amp of water. I`m presuming you`re asking how to store it if not using the full dose at once so it`s not sitting in the fridge like an open cup, “for 30 days bro.”I mix the compound then draw each dose I plan on injecting into multiple insulin syringes, placing the cap back on them, putting them in a zip lock bag, and setting them in the fridge. I then just pull a pin out and inject it on the days I plan on injecting.
LennyCardone
Thank you. That`s exactly what I was referring to. Everyone gave sound advice as well
JohnSmith
I’m glad I could help, please give it an upvote.
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Does this come with the BS water?
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crazy Dan
No it doesn`t my friend! However it comes with sterile saline. But i would advise you to not use it unless you are pinning all the 5000iu at once. Purchase bacteriostatic water seoerately and reconstitute the hcg with it. bact water has a preservative in it to extend the shelf life of your hcg. Hope that helps buddy! and don`t forget to vote for gp sustanin270 for potw. thanks!
evanjohnson347
No it does not but bacteriostatic water can be purchased legally for cheap at many online reatailers.
LennyCardone
Since it`s an ample, how do I preserve it? Let`s say over 2 weeks?
LennyCardone
And I`m thinking 10000 iu would be better… I`m coming thru a 8 month cycle
nickname_311
No it does not. I would buy some so it lasts longer and be good with that also I would get 10000 to have it be proper 5000 Lodi things way too low
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What happens if you finish a test/tren cycle with PCT and don`t use an HCG ?
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A19
Nothing will happen. As long as you run a PCT you`ll be fine. HCG would just get your balls nice and full quicker. That`s all. I`m assuming you`re at least running clomids for your PCT. Hope that helps. Don`t forget to vote. Thanks for the question.
BigZ
You can most likely still bounce back if you`re young. It just takes a little longer that`s all. I`ve bounced back plenty of times with just a nolva/clomid pct and I`m 29.
Onyx
nolvadex/clomid pct is effective for most of the people. Good luck!
anonymous_1212
Hello Joe, There shouldn`t be any negative effect but remember, everyone is different. You can use either or all three but I personally use all 3 (depending on length of cycle, dose and AAS). I do recommend that you use HCG though because it helps with sperm mobility, regeneration, LH secretion and it can be ran with Clomiphene Citrate at the same time. Check out this study: “Clomiphene citrate and human chorionic gonadotropin are both effective in restoring testosterone in hypogonadism: a short-course randomized study.” Knowing (personally also) that a 19-nor is Highly Suppressive if not, 100% suppressive of natural Testosterone production and Sperm, I would use as much arsenal as I could. Currently I am awaiting my HMG to try it out but currently it’s been stuck somewhere over the rainbow for quite some time. If you choose to just use CC and ND then use this frequency: 100/100/75/50 CC and 40/40/30/20 ND and if you add an extra week, it shouldn`t hurt, but remember you need estrogen to function as well bro. Let me know if this helps and I hope it does. Live well be safe and good lift to you! Remember to vote and reply if needed.
Uhoh38125
It will just take longer than Clomid/Nolvadex, but it also depends on how heavy the cycle and your ageWatch Seth Feroce pct blasting and cruising video on the tube…. lots to learn there.
crazy Dan
Your main goal with pct is to get your natty back asap so you can be normal and keep most of your gain. Hcg will help pct and shorten the recovery of your natty. So if your natty is back and you didn`t use hcg then it doesn`t matter. In other words, hcg is a tool to help you recover from testicular suppression. So you don`t need to use it id you don`t want to. Hope that`s clear my friend! Good luck buddy! And don`t forget to vote.
Unc33135
You may just not recover as quickly. Might not be any difference at all if your using clomid/nolva. Personally i like hcg. I just came off that cycle and am currently on hcg. Recovery seems to be coming along well. Even if u dont take any pct at all youll still eventually recover itll just take much longer. Things like age, dosage, length of cycle all factor into how youll recover.
nickname_311
Make sure to have HCG on hand.
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I read that taking test c or any test stops the production of sperm. If so will this hcg bring them back to normal? How long will it take to do so?Planning on having kids soon. I`m 35 and my first cycle will be test c at 500 a week for 12 weeks cycle may do 40mg dbol a day for first 5 weeks then the usual PCT two with clomid and nova. Many thanks.
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Branko
Yes, taking exogenous test will make your body not produce test….but doesn`t necessarily mean that you won`t have sperm. Many men have fathered children even while on cycle. That all said, HCG will stimulate balls to work again and increase fertility so it is a good idea. You can add towards the end of cycle before pct, or with pct.
nickname_311
Pct and hcg should do the trick just read the descriptions and go from there.
EDubz
Test definitely does slow down the production of sperm but this varies person to person I got my wife pregnant while I was taking 750 mg of test for 3 months other people can be taking a low dose of about 200 mg of test and not being able to have a kid but taking HCG will definitely help the boys start reproducing test on there own and will definitely increase your chances of being able to have a kid. As long as you do a proper PCT you should have no problem having a kid after the cycle it`s just some people can`t get their girl pregnant while on cycle good luck and don`t forget to vote!
Dr. Scott
yes, adding testosterone will decrease sperm count as well as motility (movement) and morphology (shape, appearance). They have been using testosterone it at surprisingly low doses in parts of europe as a form of male BC for decades. This is fairly well known. Hcg (or even clomid) will help bring this back, best to get off everything wait a few weeks and begin a course of HCG. Aside from sperm count, There are blood tests you can get to help predict the effectiveness of your HCG. You can get FSH/LH levels near the end or 17 – OH Progesterone : HCG + TRT Efficacy Predictor, if you want to try to stay on TRT and use the HCG and hopefully have the best of both worlds. Both tests are usually around 80 bucks apiece.
EDubz
Hey Scott so you think its strange I got my girl pregnant when I was on a high dose 750+mg of test and 400 mg tren in that cycle and I was 3 months in? I thought it was odd. You think good chance of it not being my kid?
Patriot_1234
It will help get you going a lot quicker than without it, but how well depends on your genetics and many other variables. After your last shot of Test, take 1000IU shots of the HCG twice a week until it`s gone and then roll into your PCT. there`s more than one effective way to use HCG so you`ll get a variety of answers. Good luck.
Mightyone
I was on 500mg of test c and yes I was able to get my girlfriend pregnant. I think it had something to do with my libido being so high and fucking 3 or 4 times a day lol and her forgetting to take her birth control. And my second son was conceived while I was in the middle of a test tren and anadrol cycle. Maybe I was just lucky but they say anadrol makes your loads bigger so maybe that was it. But it is rare but entirely possible and I have 2 very healthy sons who are 3 and 5 years old now. I hope that helped good luck brother stay safe
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Does this need to be refrigerated after mixing ?
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Jogger
Yes brother after mixing you can store for around 30 days in fridge, good luck man
JamesEarl
Yes. Refrigeration is extremely important after mixing and it gives up to 3 to 4 weeks of potency that way, otherwise it can degrade and lose potency if left outside after a mere 6 hours or 8 hours.
JD Cycle
Yes. If it comes with water, make sure it`s bacterialstatic water. Most come with sodium [forget specific type] water. You would use that if you`re going to pin the whole thing. Mix with bac water and it`ll stay stable a bit longer in the fridge.
nickname_311
Yes once you makes it put it in the refrigerator for future use. Remember to vote up on the comments / answers
Onyx
Yes, after mixing you should store it in a fridge. Good luck!
Patriot_1234
Yes refrigerate after mixing. And to add to that, store your bac water in the fridge so it always mixes at the right temp. Not a must but it`s easy and should help a little bit. Good luck.
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I want to purchase HCG for my PCT, will be running Test E at 500/week for 12 weeks. I`m planning on starting HCG 1-2 weeks after my last test E pin. Will start with 1000iu twice a week for the first week. 750iu twice a week for the second week, 500iu twice a week for the third week, and finally 250iu twice a week for the last week. bringing my total HCG to exactly 5000iu. Now my question is, could I reconstitute this 5000iu ampule with 5mls of bac water and then preload my 8 syringes with (1ml/1ml/.75ml/.75ml/.5ml/.5ml/.25ml/.25ml) put them in the fridge and pin respectively? Also, is HCG injected subcutaneously or intramuscular for the purpose of PCT? Thank you
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nickname_238
Yes that is fine make sure you put them in the fridge. I would start your Hcg immediately the day you do your last shot, for 2 weeks. Then you will run your clomid (Pct) after the 2 weeks of Hcg. You want to pin your Hcg intramuscular.
Mike Jones
That`s a good protocol for restarting your testes if you wanna go that route, and yes you can preload the syringes, with bac water not just saline, the compund should last quite a while. I prefer sub q to intramuscular with hcg due to the volume of injections you do and they both produce the same result. With that said, the best hcg protocol (at least in my opinion) is to start 2 weeks INTO your cycle not after. If you run 250iu twice a week so only 500iu a week you will effectively keep the continuous production of lh in your testes and they don`t shrink up or shut down so instead of restarting your testes they just keep going as long as your producing LH which is what happens when you take hcg. This is why many men on trt take hcg continuously to maintain HTPA function and they keep their fertility along with high sex drive and lower shbg levels
train4days
So maybe I could start hcg with 2 weeks left on my cycle. At 500iu twice a week, but also lower my test e to maybe 100 the first week then 50 the week after. Since my testes will start to produce some test?
BillySantos
It sounds like you have a spot on idea on what you`re doing, you need to inject intramuscular, yes it`s ultimately for PCT so you don`t shut down after cycle. It brings your balls back to life and makes them start producing testosterone again. If you run it during cycle you won`t have to run it during your PCT.
train4days
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but per my understanding testosterone production has a negative feedback. Meaning that presence of testosterone inhibits production by the testes. So it would trump my HCG if im still pinning test E. Rendering my HCG pins essentially useless. I am NOT a doctor. I just have a bachelors in biochemistry and this hypothesis is only derived from what I know and what I’ve researched in physiological pathways of hormone production.
JamesEarl
Hcg is better subcutaneous and also I personally use 500iu three times weekly alternate days and it works. Use the lowest effective dose. But not such a low dose that it`s ineffective to begin with. Good luck!
train4days
Thanks man. I am still currently in the planning stages for both my cycle and PCT. I have ordered my test e, arimidex, hcg and nolva. I want to have it all before starting. And I wont start cycle until gyms reopen. There’s only so much I can do at home without equipment.
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Has anyone ever had hcg help with sex drive ive been on trt for 6month and test levels are 1600 and estrogen and everything else is good but my sex drive is “GONE” ive heard hcg could help with my drive they say sometimes when your balls stop making test. Your body thinks no reason for sex drive so i was told that hcg will help bring boys back and drive should come wigh them my question is has anyone ever had this help them get there sex drivd back? Pls only real answers i only get 6 people to let me know fellas thx
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barrybonds
Some HRT will also prescribe HCG. 500 to 1000 iu 2x a week. It may help you, it will help if your testicles are shrunk down it will help return them to size. Also if you`re estrogen is too low you can have zero sex drive. But the best thing I`ve noticed is adding in proviron 25-50mg a day. This is really an under used drug in my opinion
Dr. Scott
well, actually you get as many people who want to answer, 24roids did away with the 6 question max. Anyhow, at 1600ng/dl testosterone levels are likely not you problem and you said estradiol is fine.. Hcg stimulates the HTGA/HTPA to make your gonads produce more “natural” testosterone but your levels are higher then average right now. That being said i do notice a small uptick in libido when i add HCG to the end of a cycle and my levels are likely 2-4000ng/dl (my lab cuts of at 1,500ng/dl). Male sex drive is very complex and testosterone levels are an important part but only a part, it could be any one of a thousand other things. No one ever listens to me on this part but 24roids sells a product called Melanotan II, it will make you tan AF with a little natural sunlight but it causes a noticeable, meaningful increase in sex drive. I do not know why this is the case but i can definitely tell you this is real and a weird secret that has been kept for years. I`ve noticed that drugs in this class are now being marketed as a sex aids so…So try the HCG, i dont see where it could hurt but i dont expect you will get what you are looking for. if nothing works check out the melanotan it is also available domestically. Seems crazy but i wouldn`t lie to you.
skitt
Hey buddy long time no talk lol.. Hope all is well with ya.. Wanted to say thanks for the idea on the Melanotan II.. Im about to place another decent order here in the next month just building up some credits and I might throw in a few bottles of that to give it a try..I was also going to order 5 or so bottles of the PT-141. I studied up on that a bit but I do have one question about that and the Melanotan.. I have the dosing down but I`m curious on the injections. I assumed they would be daily injections correct? or EOD? Thanks buddy I appreciate the help..
Dr. Scott
right good to see you old man. Well, i have been using this product way before 24roids ever had it and this is how i do it i add 1 ml bacteriostatic water to a vile and give myself 1-2 10ths (i notice the sexual sides more with 2 10ths) of a ml sub q daily for a week or 2 then 2 times a week there after for as long as you want. If you get even as little as 10-30mins of a sun a week you will get dark AF, almost too much. It will make every freckle or mole darken as well and a bit of nausea in some for 10-15mins after. I notice the sexual sides a few hours post injection and it is dramatic. I have researched this product extensively and cannot find any studies indicating it is dangerous but it is pretty new (like 2000 and mainstream in 2008) so use at your own risk. it is fairly powerful and for some strange reason people are just finding out about it. its good to know about and definitely has its place place but you can easily go overboard and look like that old lady on something about mary. Now you know what i know, hope this helps. definitely good to hear from you let me know if i can help. take care.
skitt
Lol yeah I was talking to my wife about this a little over a month ago and how I do NOT want to look like the old leather face lady.. ha ha great movie though.. I appreciate the info, and will definitely order a few bottles. At that dosing seems a bottle could last quiet a while to which is nice.. Always enjoy the advise you give man, your one of the few I know I can come to on here for sound info if I can`t find it myself, have a great summer and sure I`ll be talking to ya soon..
skitt
Hey buddy I think I might have miss understood ya there for a second… so for my peace of mind lol at 1 ML of back water in 10 mg of Melanotan II you said to start with 1-10th or 2-10th for first week.. on a 1 ml insulin syringe you meaning the 10 iu mark for 1-10th and the 20 iu mark for 2-10th correct??? it just threw me off for a second on the measurements
Patriot_1234
I`m on 200mgs/wk TRT and HCG helps me a bit. I run 500IU`s twice a week. I have noticed an increase in libido directly related to the HCG dosage. EG: if I shoot 1000IU`s I “feel” like it makes my drive stronger. But its a possibility your Test levels may be too high. I feel like my libido is best at somewhere around ~300ish mgs/wk. as when I go from cruising to blasting there`s a week where my drive goes through the roof and then it dies back down, and I get the same effect when going back to cruise. Sorry about your troubles.
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Ahdudu
Take cialis or proviron or cabergoline
skitt
Hey Eddie, I just finished doing HCG at 500 iu 3x a week M W F for last 3 weeks. I have been doing TRT at 200 mg a week for last 6 months.. Mainly used to help bring the good ol boys back to size.. Honestly while using it I did see a slight increase in Libido like Dr Scott mentioned but nothing that was over the moon.. Give it a try and see might think about adding a little cialis or Proviron and see if that may help as well…. good luck bro
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Does this stop your balls from shrinking while on cycle
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Bswole
Yes it will keep your boys nice full andready for action bro..
jack and the b
yes bro thats the goal, it also increases fertility, that particular one is a good product, good luck
Traianos123
This is the best product to keep your balls at normal size and full.
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Can some one please tell me what HCG to order???? I am in the middle of a cycle right now and I`m about to put another order in for some more goodies/ One of things i`d like to try is HCG I have never ran it PCT before and my nads have shrunk maybe 25% now that i`m older and have been on and off cycles for the last 10 years. Im getting so very conflicting information. Will this correct any shrinkage done or is it going to waste me time and cash? I have ordered Hgh going off some of the info on this site and it didn`t turn out good, other than that all of the other gear has been AMAZING and MORE! So if someone could let me know what supplier to order from, I hear the pre-mix is good but it`s premixed so you need to get it in before 4-6 weeks. I have around 8 weeks left on this cycle and would like to get some hcg to fill my boys back up. Do I order this or Bharat?
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Majico
Any HCG you order on 24roids should be legit. Next cycle, do the HCG while ON cycle, not after. This will prevent atrophy and possibly make it easier and faster to regain testicular function after cycle cessation. For this cycle, wait until the anabolic compound is completely out of system, then blast HCG for about 2 weeks, THEN start proper PCT. HCG is suppresive and should not be run during the entire PCT.
Swoll,onthe,low
Ok so you are going to want the best and only the best do order the one that says HCG ok. They are all the same exact quality just get the IU amount you need
Dr Scott
I prefer the fertigyn 2000iu dilute with 2ml bacteriostatic water (you will need to get some if you dont have any) that way its easier to dose standard protocols like 250iu or 500iu as it will be 1000iu/ml. get 4 or 5 boxes. but it only takes 1 maybe 2 to bring the boys back. lots of different choices for me thats the cheapest and most effective. Some guys like the premixed but i dont and at least until 24roids starts shipping them refrigerated i wont even consider it and especially not the 10,000iu/ml of any kind. hope this helps
bobby
i like fertigyn and have also tried pre mixed hucog both will work bro, take care
Htown
I like fertigyn. They are all good. 5000 are good because you want to use hcg up once you reconstitute it. I recommend 250 2x a week to bring the boys back.
KnickerB
Pregnyl and fertigyn has been highly recommended by experts here. They also suggest not to purchase the pre-constitued mix as it has short shelf life.
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I bought this product in January. It was shipped and received in NY on February 7. It`s March 8 and I still haven`t received it. What happens now? Thanks
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Big Dogg
Open a ticket with 24roidshelp. It may just be shuffled around and delayed in customs, but may have been seized. If its seized 24roids will reship it. Customs will send you a letter. Nothing will come of it for a small order. I`ve had a package seized and still use the same address. They dont keep a database or anything. Definitely open a support to ket tho if it`s been that long.
Drew
You need to open a ticket with 24roids you can email them from the email they sent you when you product was shipped. They will reship your product for you.
John
Shipping has been delayed. You can wait it out or try opening a ticket with Napz for store credit
pat
Contact 24roids if you like but I think it will be with you soon bro, good luck
Stephen Jefferson
It could be just delayed at customs give it time at least two weeks
Barry Gibson
Just open a ticket with 24roids and it`ll be reshipped.
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How many ml are in 250 iu. Should I buy my own solution for this cos I see people saying not to take the one that comes with it. What solution should I buy and where can I buy it that will ship to Ireland
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Roid_Head
It`s up to you. It depends on how many ml of bac water you add to the hcg vial. If you add 5ml you get 1000iu per ml and etc.
Yiannos
Yeah man if yo add 5cc you get 1000iu per cc man so good luck
Juice24roids
Hey Glynn, this all depends on how much BAC water you choose to put in the vial. Buy BAC water online at ebacteriostaticwater — they have the cheapest prices. I`m not affiliated with them. 24roids may have BAC water and if 24roids have it buy it from 24roids. Don`t use the solution that comes with it as it is for single use (using the whole 5000iu at once). I`m not sure about Ireland but a quick google shopping search should give you BAC water options. If you put in 1 mL of BAC water then you want to pull an insulin syringe the 5 mark (out of 100, 1/20th of a mL) to get 250iu. 250 is 1/20th of 5000 and 5 is 1/20th of 100 — makes sense. Thanks for the question
Heynow
Great response from juice 24roids. Always gives good advice
novadesert007
it comes with 1ml bac water. break ampules and mix in with the white powder. That`s 1ml 5000iu. 250iu is very hard to pull cause it is so little. if you mix more bac water sure. What I do is having 5 different insulin syringes. Each of them would have 1000iu once a week during the cycle. Help a lot with balls shrinkage. 5 syringes each .2ml.
Nathan Co
Definitely get your own NAC water and pick a measurement that is easy for you. It don`t really matter what you choose as long as you can fit it in the vial. And don`t shake it after adding the water. Slowly let it drip down the side. They is probably going to be a vacuum to the vial, so fill a syringe with air only first and see if the vial sucks the air in. When the vail is done sucking air from your syringe, then go ahead and add your bac water. Hope this helps! Remember, this stuff is VERY DELICATE
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Thanks for all the answers just one more. How many vials of this will I need for a 15 week cycle of test e and deca. I want to run this from the start. And how do you measure this out
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Dan
Depends on what methods you plan to do. But the thorough method would be the entire cycle of 15 weeks. At 250iu twice a week let`s say, would be 500iu. Per week. So 500iu tines 15 weeks is 7,500iu. Each vial comes in 5,000iu. So get need 2 vials of this hcg.
Jaris
Hcg is meant to be ran between your cycle and pct. That way you can bump up your natural test levels
bobbby c
250iu 2x a week and it keeps natural test going good luck get 2 vials
Kumar the Rodeo Star
Most people have no understanding of the three estrogen running through your body. Intratesticular testosterone (IT-T) is essential for spermatogenesis. In men with infertility secondary to hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism, injections of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), which mimics the activity of LH, stimulates the testicular biosynthesis of testosterone. Some men are more or on to e2 production and increases. NOTE: A.I.s have no effect on e2. With this in mind stick to protocol and not bro science. Never run more or less than 500iu and never more than 3x per week for PCT. You have 10 injections per vile of this sun p product so you need three viles for a 10 week cycle and 12 shots PCT which consist of 500iu 3X per week for 30 days calling with 100mg per day of Clomid. Some suggest 50mg per day because they have a sensitive tummy. How cares, that`s easy to fix via diet and or medication. I eat 30 raw Egg whites per day and have no “tummy issues”. Go figure. Keep asking questions
joey
yeah man 250iu twice a week to keep the boys up and running
Taylor
You will be fine if you grab 3 bottles having a little left over.
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Apart from keeping your balls working is there any other advantages of taking this.
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Juice24roids
Hey Glynn, all the benefits I know of have to do with keeping the nuts working. It will make PCT much easier, will help ensure you don`t become infertile should you want to have kids later, keep sperm production, higher free test levels (my free test is off the charts I think because of HCG, could be wrong) etc. Interested to see what others think. Thanks for the good question
John Rambo
Not necessarily for keeping the nuts going but also starting them back up. Some choose to just start HCG when closing out the cycle to get them timing again after they have shut down. It will help quite a bit with PCT and getting your body back to normal
Mike Jones
Yes if your on trt, since exogenous testosterone, shuts off your natural production and shuts down your LH and fsh production, lack of LH and fsh can cause libido problems even on trt, it`s like your body thinking since your balls down need to work anymore you don`t need to be horny anymore. This happens a lot of trt without the use of hcg, that`s why a good trt doc will always recommend a hcg regimen usually 250iu twice a week or 500iu once a week should keep your balls full, fertility working, and keep you horny all the time
Dromeo
Besides maintains the functionality of your balls it restores the functionality of them too which is why many people utilize it during PCT.
Cyclone
It also helps maintain size and fertility for those who are taking exogenous testosterone or other androgens.
Heynow
I only know of hcg to help your balls. Either keep them inflated or get them back inflated
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Iv never took this before and I`m just wondering how often should you take this and how long in to a cycle should you start taking it and how much and how often. I`ve read on here other people saying to take it 3 or 4 weeks before last shot but would that not be to late if you want your balls working properly. My next cycle is gonna be test e 250 and deca 250 pinned twice a week at 1ml and proviron twice a day and arimidex .05 mg on pin days it will be my 5th cycle
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Drew
I like taking this on cycle to make my pct process that much easier. I take 250ius twice a week for my entire cycle.
Papi1224
When I ran it, I did 4IU every other day, I ran it for 4 weeks with good results, the rest of your cycle sounds spot on. Good luck
Roid_Head
There are two different ways it can be taken. You can either take 500iu-1000iu a week while on cycle until your last pin then start PCT or you blast 2000iu-3000iu a week for 2-3 weeks at the end of the cycle. Some people start taking it 2 weeks prior to their last pin and some take it right after.
Yoshi
I am a huge fan of HCG, it makes coming off so much smoother. I take 500ius a week from start of the cycle. I split it up 250 x2 a week. I pin it the day before I poke or day of depending on how I feel. I find day before has been consistently better for myself. Try it out and you`ll find what works best for you. I cease use with my last poke and then go into PCT about 10ish days later. Do not use it during PCT, it is counter productive. Theres a great video on youtube by low T nation on it.
Juice24roids
Hey Glynn, I like to run HCG for the whole cycle. It ensure the testes don`t shrink up too much and it`s easier to PCT. I run 500-1000iu per week depending on how much shrinkage I have. I stop running it when the balls and loads are full. Thanks for the question
Mike Jones
Start as soon as you start your cycle. The recommended doses for on cycle use is 250iu twice a week usually mon/fri
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Do you pin this into a muscle
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GainsVille_85
HCG should be pinned subcutaneously. Belly fat usually works best and is convenient.
nickname_464
I guess you could, but it`s made to be taken subq with a insulin needle. There are many how to videos on YouTube. Best of luck mate.
Papi1266
You could but best results that I have achieved have come from in the stomach
Acfit
You use a 5/8in Insulin needle and pinch some skin on the stomach. Then inject at angle so it`s subcutaneous, just into the skin. Barely feel it at all. Good luck.
Nathan Co
You can, but it`s better if you just do it SubQ. No scar tissue build up and why inject deep if there is no need to.
Siggs
You can but SubQ is way easier and you don`t loose much at all.
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I was wondering should you take HCG throughout cycle? When you`re coming off before PCT? Throughout PCT? Does this change for short or longer esters? Any info and advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance
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Cyclone
Hcg should be taken starting around week 2, and through the end of the cycle. If you have enough you can continue to take 2 weeks into PCT, but no longer as it will hamper recovery.
Drew
I normally like to take hcg while through out my entire cycle so my balls never stop working so it`s so much easy to do my pct after words. I take 250ius twice a weeks on cycle.
nickname_21
You can use it during and after cycle and during pct it`s up to you some people never use it personal preference
nickname_464
This is kinda a person to person thing. I find that one to two weeks before end of cycle and for the duration of PCT is adequate. Best of luck mate.
Pookie
You`re gonna get many opinions on this….here is mine. I`ve taken HCG throughout my entire cycle in the early years but realized it does absolutely nothing for you as far as muscle building. If anything, it does help bounce you back quicker if you are gonna do PCT to rebound your natural production. I recommend starting a HCG blast 2 days before your last anabolic pin for 16 days at 750/750/750/750/500/500/500/500 EOD; then start your PCT.
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Larry
You take it throughout the cycle at 500iu-1000iu a week. You stop taking it after your last pin then clomid and Nolva for pct.
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I am on trt and am dealing with a lot of shrinkage. My quack doc won’t proscribe hcg for off label use. I have read many posts where people are using at end of cycle but not much for people that blast and cruise or on trt. So what would dosage be like, how often and duration?Second thing is about the ”water” hcg comes with… People say not to use it and say to use bac water. I don’t have bac water and don’t know where to get it. Can it be purchased at a local pharmacy or does it have to be from online source? What’s wrong with using provided liquid? If bac water is better why don’t they include it instead? Basically I don’t want to chase down bac water unless it’s absolutely necessary. Thanks fellas and maybe gals
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FatDadstack
Bharat Serums & Vaccines Limited 10000 iu. I run 500 iu a week and my boys are hanging strong and larger than life. Just my two cent
NeuroMD
HCG can be used on cycle to keep the testicles responsive, allowing to keep their size and most of their function. It can also boost libido as even with exogenous test, a lot of intermediate hormones and metabolites aren`t there without normal testicular function and so HCG helps with this. Typical dosing would be anywhere from 250 IU 2x week up to 500-1000 IU 2x week. If the vial comes with bac water/NaCl solution, that`s more than fine to use as long as its sterile and resistant to bacterial growth. Many pharmaceutical supply websites carry bac water for very cheap. Best of luck man! It
Siggs
First off I blast and cruise. I use hcg the whole duration. 500 iu Monday, Wednesday and Friday for a total of 1500 iu per week. It seems to keep everything going and full! I started cruising and experienced shrinkage so I started the hcg so if for some reason I had to stop completely my own test will be produced easily and I don`t have to worry if my boys will come back to life or not since I am on long term. If your not cruising and using for pct start the same schedule 2 weeks before your last pin and it will hugely help in the pct process.
Atom
500 iu a week should serve your needs, but pay attention to effectivness as your body will become desensitized to its effects ( otherwise guys would be doing hcg cycles)
Nickname_777
That`s shitty that he refused to write you a prescription. I blast and cruise feel way better running hcg i didn`t use it for the first 5 month`s when i was using test the difference is how i feel taking hcg i buy hcg 5000 i buy enough for the year but you can decide how much you need or what you want to do, the bac water that come`s with the hcg is only good for that shot, so i would order bac water online it`s super easy if you google BACTERIOSTATICWATER it`s the 4th page i did it that way without going to a pharmacy. It`s simple to mix you can check on youtube how to do it also learned that way. go with 500 hcg a week that;s what i been doing and im feeling good libido is crazy once you get you`re hcg ball`s will come back god luck bro
John Porco
I use HCG during all my cycles. 250 iu`s for 2 pins a week so a total of 500iu`s per week. Yes Bac water is absolutely necessary to keep the HCG bacteria free and also prolong the shelf life or in this case refrigerator life. If you use the liquid that comes with it, you have to use it all at once or it`s no good. A simple search on where to buy Bac on the internet and you will find it. Very simple to get so don`t use it without the Bac
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This is my first time using hcg. I`ve read watched enough to know not to use the ciao that cane with it as this is made for one dose. If I`m injecting 500iu per week how would I mix it with the bacteriostatic so that I would get the dose needed? Thank you for the input! I guess to clarify. How much of the bacteriostatic solution would I put into the vial with the hcg powder.. thanks once again.
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Nathan Co
That depends on what size of vial it is. If you put 5ml of bac water in, you could pull .5ml and you would have 500iu. But 5ml may not fit in the vial if it`s really small. Some vials only hold maybe 2 or 3 ml. Google “reconstitution calculator” and the calculator will figure it out for you.
traianos123
I will recommend u use HCG Hucog, is premixed, like this is ready to inject, more easy, better for u if u dont dont experience in mixing this stuff, i like more the premixed, just an ideea, good luck.
Big Dogg
Its basic math. Just limited to the size of the vial and how much volume you want to inject. I do HCG IM. I do not like pinning subq. I also dont like dealing with tiny amounts of injectables. 5000iu/500iu=10. How much you want to inject x 10. 1ml = 0.1ml pins. 2ml = 0.2ml pins…
Juice24roids
Hey Craig, for 5000iu what I do is put in 1mL of BAC water and pull to the 5 unit mark on the insulin syringe to get 250iu. 5 units is 1/20th of 100 units (full syringe or 1mL or 1cc) and 250 is 1/20th of 5,000. Don`t listen to other answers that tell you different math. Nathan doesn`t know that 5mL doesn`t fit in an HCG vial. 5 units is a very small amount of liquid but I like that. Put in 1mL and pull to the 5 for 250iu. Thanks for the question.
Gearpeace
Just reconstituted exact same product yesterday. My math came out to 5000iu divided by 1ml 100unit(insulin syringe) = 50iu/unit. So 50 x 10 units is 500iu…..to the “10” on insulin syringe. I`m taking 250iu twice weekly. It was easier for me to add 2ml bacteriostatic water so now the “10” on syringe is 250iu…..easier to draw to 10 for me. Let me simplify cause that`s sounding confusing. Add 2ml bacteriostatic water to vial. Draw to “20” mark on insulin syringe for 500iu. Draw to “10” for 250iu if you`d like to do 2 shots per week.
Cyclone
You’ve received some quality answers already from other users, just keep in mind that if you want to understand the process better, there are reconstitution calculators available on the Internet, just use Google. There are also lots of YouTube videos that explain this process and the math behind it.
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If Viagra is taken daily during cycle in small doses it will work something like Hcg? it will keep my balls at normal size? or my question is just stupid? )) Does anyone take Viagra every day during cycles? I just realize that i got lots of V on my hand )) Thanks for your time.
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voodoo
Viagra doesn`t work like that. It block a enzyme to allow blood to flow to your penis when you need it during a sexual arousal. Take it when you are about to have intercourse Hcg is a hormone It`s totally different!
EDubz
No…. Definetely wont work anything like hcg does…. Will not keep your balls from shrinking, nor tell them to “come back to life”..
Skuchie
It`s not like HCG, it doesn`t do anything in regards to testicular activity. In laymen`s terms, Viagra works more like a valve. The body of the penis is made up of a spongy type of tissue, which swells when blood enters during an erection. Via gra maintains this swelling by restricting the outflow of that blood. That`s why they say viagra itself won`t cause arousal, because it doesn`t, it only controls blood flow.
Nathan Co
Sorry man, but no. Viagra will only allow my blood flow to your penis and that is about it. It won`t do anything for testicular size.
nickname_629
Stupid question (jk), all viagra will do is increase blood flow, it won`t do anything for testicular size and function.
RJB16
It wont work like that bro… Use it as needed for trouble when on cycle…
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OK, how to keep this HCG sterile? It comes in an ampule and you crack it open… BAC comes in a rubber top vial, sterile vials also have a rubber top. If I wanted to mix 10ml BAC water with a 5000iu kit so I could draw 1ml at 500iu, how do I go about this in a sterile manner? Like, how do I get the powder into a sterile vial? I guess I have to mix it in a cup/beaker or something, draw up like 3ml at a time and use a syringe to transfer it to a rubber top vial? What`s the protocol? How do experienced users of HCG manage this?
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skitt
Hey Jake, I have kinda wonder this at times as well, with oils and other products.. Just an Idea but once you crack open the ampule, put 1 ml of Bac in the ampule and mix, then take syringe and needle and draw up the 1 ml of solution and transfer it to a 10 ml sterile vial then add the other 9 ml of Bac water to get your ratio.. That`s how I would do it.. That way you dont have to put it in any other containers and worry about contaminating it.. If I understood your question correctly… good luck bro good question to
Mike Jones
Using 10ml of bac water for hcg would be a waste of bac water (no offense) so as skitt stated, take 1ml of bac water and not the sterile solution they provide with the amp, mix the powder and BAC water draw from the amp and transfer to a sterile vial. At this ratio every 10 units on a slin pen will be 500iu so every 5units will be 250iu etc. if you don`t want to do this bharat serums makes a premixed hcg with preserves that lasts at least a year from manufacturing date, with 1ml of solution you can add bac water to the mixture to dilute the solution or use the same math I provided 10units to 500iu
Gearpeace
So I`m guessing you don`t have a sterile ventilation hood like most compounding pharmacies have???….amateur hour here. Lol! I actually like Skeets suggestion above…..if it`ll dissolve in 1ml+ of bac water in amp. Alcohol swabs the top of 10ml vial prior to transfer. Let us know how it goes
NPC LIFE
I thought the same as you guys. You can buy 10ml sterile viles on amazon. I agree and would mix one at a time and fill up 10ml viles. Don`t mix it in a beaker not worth getting an infection.
Swoll,onthe,low
Mix it all in 1ml put into sterile vial then ad 9ml bac water,very simple
Matthew
Wipe alcohol on surface of both. Especially sterile water rubber cap. Insert needle in water then draw 1mL of water. Carefully and slowly add to ampules of lyophilized hcg. Gingerly mix with needle. Or slowly redraw the water w hcg powder up and down slowly. After a minute draw mixed solution from ampules to vial of water with the rubber stopper. Swirl for a few minutes. Swirl not shake.
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Good morning all. Quick question, does anyone know if the fertigyn HCG comes premixed. Not a big fan of premixed HCG for my own reasons. I think i`ve used this brand in the past and it came with an amp of sterile water or whatever but the product picture looks like this is not the case. i`m not going to bother submitting a ticket to 24roids so please dont waste the space Thanks for the help.
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Lorddrip
No they are self mixed bud hopefully this helps and I can see why you would rather do it yourself good luck man
Big Dogg
It looks like just the amoule of water in the photo. HCG powder comes in a separate vial. I`m sure you know that you need bacteriostatic water to mix it with. It comes with sterile water but that should be stored once reconstituted.
patsalos mixalis
these are self mixed i have one in stock, take care bro
GainsVille_85
It will come with an amp of sodium chloride mixed with water. I always toss it and use bacteriostatic water for a little longer “shelf life”. I’ve only used HCG that I’ve reconstituted, wouldn’t trust a pre mix.
EDubz
No this isnt already mixed the powder is seperate. I would use Bac water instead of what they give you. But I habe used the solution they give and didnt jave a problem. Good luck Scott.
nickname_332
It doesn`t come mixed. Pick up some bac water and reconstitute it yourself
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Hey guys im.needing some help and information on the product of the week. HcG 5000. I`m a 51yr old male that has always been in weight room in some compacity. I`ve used Anabolics a few cycles a year for the last 10yrs. Im.needing info on how much I need and how much I would inject and how often. I know I can google but I prefer to hear from 24roids customers and personal experiences.
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Dr Scott
It depends on how much gear you run and what your goals are brother. I use HCG for all my “Pct” and testicular atrophy needs. Lots of guys use clomid as well but these two drugs have a very similar mechanism of action so to have both is over kill IMO. Anyhow to make it simple i use a 5000iu vial at the end of each cycle 3 weeks out from the end i begin HCG at 500 iu 2 times a week for two weeks and after that until the end of the vial. so for me i use two vials a year. Now i am certain others will disagree but i have been doing this for a long time and found this to be the most economical, safe and easy way to do things. I take labs almost obsessively and things come back quickly plus whenever i begin this HCG portion of my cycle i feel great, libido goes through the roof and i usually make some of my best gains. but end of the day figure what is best for you.
traianos123
Dr Scott is right, u have to pin 500 iu 2 times/week in the last 3 weeks of your cycle, this will keep your balls at normal size and also u will see better results in bedroom ))
Drew
You would want to take 500ius Ed week for the last three weeks of your cycle or you can take it on cycle at starting at 250iu twice a week to prevent Apathy if that`s not enough work your way up from there.
Lorddrip
2iu a week and for test since you have done cylces you can go standard dose most likely if you feel 500 weekly and pct adex perfect and good luck man
Big Dogg
You`ll need bacteriostatic water to mix it with so you can store it once reconstituted. You`ll use 250-500iu 2 x per week. If you use it all the way through your cycle 250 2x should be fine. If you start at the end I would go higher.
nickname_464
250iu three times a week for the first two weeks and then down to twice a week for another two weeks. Starting about a week and a half before last pin of cycle. Hope this helps. Of course this is just personal. Best of luck mate.
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What`s the shelf life on this HCG before it is reconstituted? I never used HCG before but am on TRT and really should. BAC water is recommended by all – any frequent users have any tips and tricks? I`ve heard roll the vial, don`t shake it… how to mix and keep everything sterile. I want to get on a good semi-permanent routine so advice from others doing similar would be very valuable. good sources for BAC water? sterile vials? I just want to get the process down with all of the needed components. Going to stock up during the impending sale.
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Lorddrip
6 months depends on how much the bottle gets opened and all that mess hopefully that helps good luck bud
Johnny Longsockz
You may continue to use this mixture for up to 60 days, but remember to keep it REFRIGERATED after mixing. Storage: Once mixed keep HCG in the refrigerator. Prior to being mixed, HCG can be kept at room temperature although it is good habit to store unmixed HCG in the refrigerator.
Bob
John is right reconstitute with bacteria’s Tati Christmas water and refrigerate for up to 2 months, good luck man
Matthew
Before reconstitutes HCG can last 2 years or specified on vials. It`s even better to keep them in a fridge. If not fridge then cool dark place. 60 days after reconstituted. In Fridge. Bacteriostatic Water is to prevent from growth of bact or fungi etc. sterile water is fine if you use immediately. But it has to be water for injection. Good luck.
Smith441
In powder form they last much longer and have an expiration date its usually more than a year but after reconstituted with bac water they are only good up to 4 weeks.
John Rambo
I think it`s good for a long time before bring reconstituted. Don`t have an exact date. Once reconstituted i give it 30 refrigerated shelf life. Like you said roll it and never shake. I get my BAC water from bacteriostatic water. Com.
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Alright 24roids bros! Lets keep up with the voting here so we can get this HCG to be come POW. Everyone ready to stock it up!!
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JD Cycle
Don`t need any personally, but here to help. Hopefully some EQ is POTW in early spring!
NPC LIFE
Definitely got my vote. Everyone needs to start voting for different compounds. It`s always test or tren.
John Rambo
Already got my vote. I have never seen hcg as pow. I will definitely stock up. Also seems like once a product is in the lead Monday it typically stays that way until voting is done
Drew
Absolutely brother 17bucks is a great deal and it doesn`t go on sale very often my friend definitely gunna stock up.
nickname_629
Votes casted, I`m on board with this for sure! But are you still under the impression that the voting matters? LOL
Mr.smith
I`ll vote for it. Be interesting to see if hcg can get product of the week. I won`t be ordering any, just gonn watch it.
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I have clean 40 anavar 10 and winstrol 50 that`s it what`s the best i can do
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EDubz
Best idea would be to get some test to run with it. Without test, you wont get great gains that you`ll keep
Jack
There`s not much you can do with that dude. Get yourself some test. At least a low dose of 250mg a week is the base for any stack. Anything else you`re just wasting your time. Wait until Test Cyp becomes product of the week and get yourself a bunch really cheap
JD Cycle
Your best is to wait until you have some test to run. That`s not enough to do anything and Win will shut down your natural test. You`ll do more damage than good.
Drew
If you gunna take anavar I would take at least 500mgs of test a week with it. To get good gains
Fit_mom
If you were woman, you could do plenty. Lol women dont need to run test with any of those steroids. How about you tell us what your goals are. Good luck
LongIslandBEAST
You’re in the perfect situation to buy yourself some testosterone and get your first cycle popping. If you aren’t prepared to pin test at least twice a week than just steer clear of the gear.
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This is piggybacking off my last question. JASONZ – thank you very much for this info. I was unaware that I shouldn`t use the solution that comes in the package. I already put it in the vial. So now the vial has 95 units of sterile solution mixed with 4750iu of HCG and is sitting in the fridge. What`s the best protocol here please? Was planning on 5 units (250iu) twice/week. Should I continue with this in liu of your “don`t use this make sure you buy BAC water separately” advice? Or scrap it and start over? Thanks
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nickname_537
Im sure you can use it or they wouldn`t supply it. However hcg comes from female urine of pregnant females and legally the medical literature cannot guarantee against disease, besidea why inject piss extracted hormones man? I opt to use rhcg r is for recombinant and it is synthetically made hence avoiding the posibility of disease. Ovidrel is a recombinant hcg brand.
Zach Linder
It works just as good Juice24roids. I`ve used both the liquid solution that comes with this product and have used Bact water as well in the past and literally felt no difference. Why would the product come with it if it serves no purpose and can`t be used. Good luck
EDubz
I definitely wouldn`t scrap it… They send tbe solution with it to be used, so I would trust that its ok, we trust everything else we inject from them, so why not trust this
Swoll,onthe,low
It will be fine.if it`s not bac water then it`s saline and is meant for single dose but you have mixed it already keep it in fridge and just dose as planned it is Fine
N88
I used to use the solution it comes with …now i get the premixed HUCOG by Bharut. It`s super convenient and comes in 10K, 5K UIs.
nickname_458
I wouldn’t scrap it, use ur current protocol and just use bac next time.
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I`d like to check my math here. The product came with one vial of 5000iu powder and one amp of 1mL solution. To get 250iu (1/20th of 5000) I pull back to 5 on a 100 unit insulin syringe? This seems like such an incredibly low dose that I`m considering adding more mL of BAC water. I`d like to pull the syringe to 25 to get 250 (add 4mL BAC water?). Is this a bad idea? thanks
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nickname_481
Its not going to make a difference though. If you pin 5 unit or 25 unit when the concentration in both cases is 250iu of hcg.
Drew
Your better of just doing the 5ius instead of having to shoot so much more liquid for the same dose.
Jasonz
Your math is correct. As the others said why add more solution? You are getting the same iu. You also said the package came with 1 ml of solution this is sterile solution designed to be taken all in 1 shot. Dont use this make sure you buy bacteriostatic water separately. Good luck.
Tren-d
Math looks good. Get you some bac water to mix your stuff.
Zach Linder
I agree with Drew, stop overthinking it. You will be fine and do not need to dilute your solution further. Good luck
Swoll,onthe,low
You can put 2ml and every 5 cc will be 250iu. It will not hurt the quality of product or cause any issues just makes dosing easier
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Who cares about having big balls I prefer the ball shrinkage that comes with this lifestyle. Makes me less vulnerable to my enemies; more aerodynamic on land, sea and air; more maneuverable in any situation; less hassle; swifter karate kicks, roundhouse kicks etc.; and of course everyone`s favorite… Who can guess this last advantage?
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LongIslandBEAST
A childfree existence.
Drew
This has to be one of the dumbest most Ignorant comments I have ever seen on this broad. The point of this is to help people out with good Knowledgeable information. Not some nonsense like this.
Growbygrow
I have been filling my wife for 12 years and child free..besides our first..so I would say extreme sex drive without children
Gabe
No kids so more money! Lol.. You my friend have comment of the night! Thanks for making me luagh
J.P.
If only natural selection blunders came with such glaring revelations. Juice24roids forfeits reproductive capabilities? A win for mankind abroad. This is a Q&A for AAS related inquiries. Show some class and take this nonsense over to one of the many forums where knuckle draggers may frolic freely in the absence of wisdom.
Anonymous 467
Haha no children. At first i was opened to ball shrinkage but now what do i even care. My girl definitely doesn`t have a preference as long as my dick works haha
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Hi, Do you offer Bulk pricing? If so, what would be the minimum amount and price?Thank you,
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Ryan
This product doesnt appear to have bulk pricing but there is plenty of other brands/variants of hgh that offers bulk pricing and there may even be some pre built stacks on here that offer a discount on it
patsalos mixalis
Send a message to customer service they can help, here questions are answered by other customers, good luck
John Rambo
Shows no option here for bulk pricing. Don`t think it is available that way even if you contact 24roids. They usually make it available that way if they can.
Greenleanmass
Sorry this product doesn`t have bulk prices. God bless stay safe.
nickname_537
If it does not show bulk pricing then it`s not available. But send 24roids a message you never know. Good luck man!
Mike Jones
On this product no, it’s priced per kit.
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how should I take this ? is just normal inject in muscle like test or any other anabolic or not ? I got this one but is only one water and one powder and if i put water in how many iu is gonna be and iu is 1cc or what it is
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Chris robins
Im pretty sure you can do either subcutaneous or intramuscular. Most people do subcutaneous tho.
nickname_556
Im or subq works and as for management depends on how much ba you put in
nickname_537
Subq is fine. Get rhcg it`s synthetic. R stands for recombinant. Recombinant is synthetic. Regular hcg comes from pregnant women piss and medical literature will not and can`t guarantee it will be completely disease free. Besides why inject a piss derived product? Get rhcg.
nickname_610
You should buy online bacteriostatic water and mix it with hcg . And buy empty sterile vial . You should watch on YouTube video colin f Watson hcg – he explain what the procedure to mix it . You need also insulin syringe and do injection into belly fat .
J.P.
First off, don`t inject HCG into your muscle. It`s formulated for subcutaneous fat injection. The area an inch or two out from the belly button is common and usually rates low for needle pain. Speaking of needles, use an insulin syringe, if you weren`t already planning to do so. The solution that typically comes with HCG kits is Sodium Chloride. It`s purpose is so that the HCG powder, once reconstituted, can be administered in one single dose, typically. Bacterostatic water is what you`ll need. In simple terms it`ll provide a preservative effect to your HCG making it safe for multiple injections. Instructions for mixing are straight forward and break down to simple math that depends on your desired dose. You can find a solution calculator online super easily. Last thing, don`t fall into this thought that you need to blast thousands of IU`s of HCG. That`s a dated theory and rarely still is appropriate for users. Also, to the above comment, almost all HCG manufactured these days is synthetic, at least in America. Medical professionals are not harvesting the urine of pregnant women to manufacture medications in 2019 lol
LongIslandBEAST
Peptides are takin subcutaneous with an insulin needle. Go about an inch to either side of your belly button and inject straight into the fatty tissue. It’s super easy.
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Hey 24roids Fam! I know this is a long shot, and I know that it`s currently in the lead for next weeks “Product of the Week”, but can we keep voting up HCG Fertigyn 5000iu for next week? Would love to load up on this. I know it`s already a great price, but $17/vial is absolutely amazing to stack up on (and I`m currently low in supply lol). If you`re not feeling this for next week`s PotW, what would you like to have voted up? Stay lifting my friends.
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John
Sure ill vote for it!
michael patsalou
Will try man. Good luck
ViktorN
Absolutely my friend! You got my vote. And since you ask me, I definitely would love to have Dragon TestE/EQ mixture 400mg!!! Thanks my friend!!
John juan
Hey Mtrain! I’ll vote bc I need to stock up as well. Would love to see Dragon Pharm primo 200 win for once. Would love to stock up on that as well
SteveC
Hcg is already so cheap, I dont see a point tbh. I would rather have primo 200 or anavar at 50% off, since those are two of the most expensive items that there are and also two amazing substances for bodybuilding. Just my .02
48yr Old Newbie
Id love to help out but why is a $34 item on the list to save on? Is this a product that you only need 25iu a week?Saving $17 on a 3+ month supply of the cheapest item in a gear order doesnt seem like a very good item to vote on.Saving half off on items that go for $80-$130+ for the higher mg versions sounds a bit more of what to vote on. How much of this stuff do you really need? Its $34 of a $1000 order, saving $17? Id rather see a vote on high dollar items so I stock up and save $200-$300 on my order $1000 order.
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By: Kaleb Parra Date added: May 08, 2019
As far as the use of HCG I am getting competing info in a big way. Some say to use it during PCT, some say it is counterproductive in that use. I’m on my first test only cycle, pushing test Cypionate @250mg twice a week. I’m planning to run 12 weeks at this dosage. Is HCG a necessary product for this cycle? If so, in what capacity have you personally used it/would you recommend using it (or not). I already have Arimidex and clomid in hand. Any additional guidance regarding PCT is appreciated!
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Anonymous
HCG is approved by FDA for much higher doses and duration than bodybuilders typically use. I`m talking 5000iu a week for half year. I run it during the cycle until 1 month after my last injection to make sure all the exogenous test has cleared my system. I take 2. 5mcg/week Letro along with it too keep the estrogen at healthy levels. Works great for me, never had a problem coming off cycle and I keep all my gains
SocalJuicer
DO NOT USE HCG DURING PCT, as it suppresses the top half of your HPTA (the body system that produces testosterone) and will greatly hamper recovery. Many bros still preach this practice, but a quick web search of bodybuilding forums (look for posts from the last few years, not 10 year ago) will prove that this is an outdated and counterproductive practice. Use it on cycle at 500iu per week taken in two shots 3-4 days apart. Is it necessary? That kind of depends. If you want to maintain fertility and the size of your testicals, then YES. If you don`t want any more kids and don`t care if your balls shrink on cycle, then NO. It does aid with overall recovery after cycle, so that is a small factor as well.
anon5_uk
I wouldn`t even use hCG for a simple short cycle like yours. But if I did, I would use it in last 4 weeks of the cycle, and stop using it 3-4 days before the start of your PCT. Never overlap it with PCT, since yes, hCG does restore your testes to natural size, but it still supresses your natural production.
Tren Man
You can use it during pct, for example if you are taking test c or test e take up to 3 weeks to completely flush out. if you come off hcg while you still have test in your blood guess what happens, you shut the natural test production, going one step forward and two step back.
N88
You can get away with just clomid and nolva for that cycle. HCG using the right protocol works great to get natural test going again. I`ve used it and peers have used and it does work just fine
LongIslandBEAST
For me running HCG during my cycle helps a lot to recover quicker and I found I keep more gains during my PCT. The worst thing to me is having my little guys begin to shrink and then hoping they come back so taking HCG ensures they don’t shrink in the first place. You are correct though many people will recommend taking it during PCT but this should be counterintuitive since HCG will tell your body to stop sending LH from the pituitary and this is a big part of your PCT. Not only do you want your Testosterone and sperm production to recover but a step above this you want your pituitary to continue producing LH and FSH which tells the gonads to produce sperm and test naturally. I found 250iu twice a week to be sufficient. You can do it the same day as your IM to keep it easily planned out. Good luck.
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Ok so with this If 1 ml is 5000iu a half a mil would be 2500 iu so if i take a quarter of a mill that would be still be 1250? how do i draw out 250 ?
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anonymous20167
if you are using an insulin syringe, it will probably be a 100 unit syringe100 units is equivalent to 1mlyou would need to draw up 5 units to get 250iu of hcg in your syringevery small amountso look for the 10, draw up HALF of thathope this helps
Lav3ga
Cut it with more water. You can fit 2 ml in the small vials. This makes it much easier to dose. 10 ticks on a slin pin is 250iu
BB89
You add bac water to diluted to your liking. If you want every cc to be 1000iu add 4ml of bac water to 1ml it already has you get 5000iu in 5ml. If you want every cc to be 500iu add 9ml of bac water so you get 5000iu dissolved in 10ml
Mike Jones
Lav is right, it’s easier to cut with more water, on a insulin syringe, with 1ml 5 units will be 250iu and 2 ml 10units will be 250iu
SocalJuicer
You need to reconstitute the solution with bateriostatic water, which can easily be purchased on the internet for just a few dollars. You will need to to “do the math” to come up with the required dosage, Lavaga provided a good formula to dose 250iu per pin.
TT KK
Add some bac water so you wouldn`t have such concentrated vial. The more you add the more you dilute
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Instead of sticking myself extra times, can i draw my HCG and in the same syringe draw my Trenbolone Enanthate so i only stick myself one time?
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RJB
So your HCG should be administered Subcutaneous like in the belly or fatty area. The Tren E you are doing should be done IM which depending on preference would be Shoulder, leg, or buttocks. I have never heard of anyone loading their Hcg in with there gear.
Jared purdom
I have tried this approach, and they are not compatible in the same syringe. The only difference between SQ and IM are absorption rates. That being said, if you mix the 2, the pain of the injection will increase significantly
ltl trucker
HCG is a sub-q injection, with a insulin syringe, most often injected near your bellybutton. Tren E is injected IM.
SWFL Sage
Tren E is injected IM HCG SQ. Tren E is oil based HCG is water based. Mix oil and water? Nah.
john smith
No, HCG is not for IM injections. If hcg was for IM injections then the answer would have been yes. Its fine if one is oil and one is water, oil and water don`t mix together.
Lav3ga
Yes, you change the rate of release of the HCG into your blood stream tho. Not a big deal tho. Anything you pin sub q has to make it`s way thru the fat and get into the muscle, where it can easily get into the blood stream. By injecting directly into the muscle you skip this step, and the drug gets to your blood a bit faster.
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If I calculated incorrectly and took 1250 iu the first 3 doses beginning week 6 of my current bulking cycle, how should I proceed after that. I haven`t experienced any issues at the moment, I`m just curious if I should continue using it or take a break for a week and start again with a smaller dose until I begin my PCT? Sorry for the dumb question, still a noob.
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Lav3ga
Personally I would just drop it all together until right before PCT. I run 1000iu a day for ten days right before I start my SERMS and this works great for me. If you want to stick with the maintenance plan then just get back on the 250 a week or whatever your target was. The big shots have already cleared your system the half-life isn`t long.
Don O
Dont worry the HCG wont hurt you if you took a little too much. If you want to use the HCG during your cycle then 250-500ius per week should be enough to keep your testes from shutting down too hard but its optional and you could just wait until the end of your cycle to use it for restarting your testes at that point. Like L said, the half life of HCG is short so it clears pretty quickly and the big shots you took will be out of your system in a few days after you took them.
Mike Jones
The large hcg doses won’t hurt you in anyway than causing loss of sensitivity of the leydig cell stimulation, all good tho let it clear your system (5-7 days) then start at the maintenance dose of 250iu 2x a week until your pct like don o said this will keep your testes full and functioning during your cycle without having to restart them after you come off, the recovery will be much quicker and less harsh.
T-dog
I have used HCG many times. I have blasted it at 1000iu ED for 10 days straight right up to PCT with nolva/clomid. I have also used it at a “maintenance” dose of 250iu shots 2x/wk throughout weeks 6-12 of a cycle with a PCT of Nolva/clomid. Speaking from personal experience I did not notice a single difference between the 2 dosing schedules for results. BUT as far as convenience, doing the “blast” 1000iu ED at the end of a cycle was much easier to accomplish and a lot less worrying if your HCG is going to last potency-wise.
Socaljuicer
Just drop it back down to a normal dosage of 250 to 500 IU per week. One caveat though, I would make sure you have enough to run all the way through your cycle to the end, if not, then I would take a break and time it so that you have enough to run an adequate amount through the end of the cycle. Hope that makes sense!
Mike Childs
Not a dumb question at all. Just bump down to 250iu 7 days after your last dose and continue to take that weekly. and if your balls shrink too much you can up it. I dont wait til the end of the cycle to take because I want my leydig cells to stay functional rather than allowing them to crash.
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I bought this and only got 4 shots at 250 Iu, Anyone else have this problem??
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Mike Jones
Well if you measured the solution like any normal person would before they reconstitute something and you got 1ml and assuming you only got 4 shots with 1ml meaning you used 1/4ml or .25ml or 25units per shot that’s 1,250iu not 250iu if you didn’t have an accurate measure on the solution then there’s no way you know you got 250iu, at 1ml of solution, 250iu would be 5 units on an insulin syring or .05ml of reconstituted solution. This product contains 5000iu of powdered hcg so even if you only had .5ml of water it’s still 5000iu
D-man
If you only got 4 shots, that is because you only mixed it with 4ml of solution, and you were injecting 1,250 IU. If You mixed it with 20ml, each 1ml shot would be 250mg. This would give you 20 injections.
SocalJuicer
This product must be reconstituted (mixed or diluted with) bacteriostatic water before administration. Bacteriostatic water can be purchased virtually anywhere on the internet or at a drug store at 30ml for only a few dollars. Essentially the volume of product that your received contains all 5000 iu. When diluting, pick a volume of water that will make administration easy. For example, if you mix so that your total volume is 2ml, then each “tick” or 1/10th of a ml on your insulin syringe would be 250iu, the recommended daily dosage.
Lav3ga
Your issue is that you are assuming the iu`s on your syringe are the same as the iu`s in the solution. Each of your “250ui” shots are actually 1250 iu of HCG. The vial you received was 5000iu dissolved in 1ml (100ui on the syringe) of water. If you want 250ui shots you need only 5 UI on the syringe and you will get 20 shots. Hope this clears it up.
big baby bear
If you only got 4 shots with the included bacteriostatic water solution you likely had 4 concentrated shots of 1250 ius. Depending on how much solution one adds is what determines the ius per ml. HCG is pretty inexpensive to manufacture so its unlikely the product was severely underdosed. Pick up some extra bacteriostatic water (also very affordable, a few bucks) and add what you need to make administration easy and mathematically simple.
gregg Palmer
You don`t inject straight from the bottle. It is 5000 iu so you need to add 4 ml of bacteriostatic water to is so you get it down to 1000 iu. then you shoot .25 ml for your 250 iu twice a week.
Phillip
You did the math wrong then. If you used 5000iu in 4 shots then you actually used 1250iu per shot.. What you should have done was split 5000iu into 10ml of BAC/Sterile Water.. so that for every .5ml you would be injecting 250iu of HCG. I realize the solution provided may have been less than 10ml but that just means you would be using less than even that but the strength (iu per ml) is decided by the amount of solution you put in. 5000iu is still 5000iu at the end of the day.
Dr. O
This product is 5000IU HCG in 1mL of solution. To get a dose of 250IU, you would only need to draw up 0.05mL in a syringe. That would be 5 units on a standard U-100 insulin syringe. That`s 50IU of HCG per unit on the syringe.
anon5_uk
You need to purchase an empty sterilized multi-use vial first (the one with the rubber stopper on top), as well as some bacteriostatic water. Then, you first gently mix the hCG powder inside the ampule with 1 mL of your bacteriostatic vial, wait for the powder to dissolve (for the liquid to become clear), then you pull the solution back into the syringe and inject it into your empty vial.You now have 5000 IU/mL. I would advise you to dillute it a bit more, depending on how much you want to inject. If you want to do 250 IU, I would add additional 1 mL of your bacteriostatic water. I would then use a insulin syringe to draw 0.1 mL of the solution (which would be 250 IU, since you diluted it to 2500 IU/1 mL). Easy.Don`t forget to refrigerate the vial once you reconstitute the powder 🙂
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How long do you take for pct and what dose
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J.P.
Though many have been promoting the use of HCG during post cycle therapy for years now, I don`t feel this is the best way to utilize HCG. Instead, what is becoming more common, is to use HCG throughout your cycle up to the point where you`ll begin PCT. For example, let`s say you`re running a 12 week cycle. For the last 4 to 6 weeks of your cycle you would use HCG at 250iu to 500iu per week. Then, after your esters have cleared you would begin PCT and discontinue HCG. The reason is that HCG will inhibit your body`s ability to independently begin producing it`s own testosterone again. The reason for the dose of 500iu or less, and the limiting of 6 weeks tops has to primarily do with desensitization. Prolonged use, and or higher doses of HCG may desensitize your body to the desired response. While I do agree with the high dose theory in some aspects, I more or less view it as an emergency procedure. Meaning that, if someone hasn`t been using HCG throughout their cycle and is scheduled to begin PCT in a week or two, then the higher bolus like dose of HCG may have a place. In general, as with most things, the minimally effective dose is ideally the way to go and is better for overall health.
TB40
HCG should NOT be taken during post cycle therapy will suppress the top of the HPTA, in other words it will interfere and prolong your recovery. HCG should be taken WHILE ON CYCLE from day one at about 250 iu twice per week – do not exceed this amount as LH desensitization can occur, causing even more problems with you system. Stop using HCG once exogenous test levels are low enough to begin recovery (generally 2-3 weeks after your last shot). For PCT, you will run a SERM such as nolvadex (tamoxifen) at 40mg per day during weeks 1-2, 20mg per day for weeks 3-4 (one month total). Alternatively, you may use clomephine (aka Clomid) at 100mg per day week 1-4, 50mg per day weeks 3-4, but be aware that it has more side effects.
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If you have 20,000iu of HCG, how much BAC do you have to mix in order to get 250iu 2x a week? Thanks
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J.P.
First off, buy smaller, but more vials of HCG so you don`t have to mix up so much at a time like the 5000iu product this question is under. This will better guarantee the sterility and potency of the reconstituted solution. When I mix for a client I mix 5000 iu at a time for the same 250iu dose you`re after. So, multiply everything by 4. For 20,000iu of HCG powder you`ll add 80ml of bacterostatic water and administer it 1ml at a time for a 250iu dose. If you`re asking about the 5000iu product this question is under, its 20ml of bacterostatic water mixed with the HCG powder, 1ml will equal 250iu.
Dave
Well it is simple math… but you have many different variables that can change how much in size are you looking to inject per 250iu injection? For instance if you take the 20,000iu and divide it by the 250iu you come up with 80 parts so now you have to figure out how big you want those 80 parts each one can be 1ml making it 80ml or you can make every part .5ml giving you a total of 40ml and so on and so on. Does that help/make sense to you?
Mike Jones
Well since this question is under the 5,000iu product use this math x4 if you mix each 5,000iu vial with 1ml of bac water every 10units or .10 ml on an insulin needle will be 500iu so 5units or .05 ml will be 250iu
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What’s the correct dosage per day for this? Also could you use distilled water in place of bacteriostatic?
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jason harris
Dosage depends on what your doing and weather you are taking it during cycle or after as part of your pct regime. Dosage will be different with these two scenarios. Do not use distilled water with this!! Bacteriostatic water must be used as it has benzyl alcohol in it to prevent any bacteria living in it therefore making it safe to put into your body. Go into the Q&A here at 24roids to learn more about HCG etc.
anonymous_565
No, don`t use distilled water. It`s not the same. Not clean. You can get proper water.very cheap at s medical supply store.
Mike Jones
This product comes with solution I’d expect bac water but depending on your cycle 250iu every 3 days is optimal. The half life of HCG is 5days
JESSE PEARSON
The reason others have recommended using bacterostatic water is due to there being a preservative in it that allows the product to last much longer than if mixed with sodium chloride. Advice on what dose to use and how often is all over the place and has been for a while. So all of the other theories aside, here is what has reliably worked for me. I`ve found that 250iu`s taken every 5 days is perfect throughout a cycle, or the last few months of a really long cycle. More than that and my estrogen gets too high.
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What’s the correct dosage per day for this? Also could you use distilled water in place of bacteriostatic?
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jason harris
Dosage depends on what your doing and weather you are taking it during cycle or after as part of your pct regime. Dosage will be different with these two scenarios. Do not use distilled water with this!! Bacteriostatic water must be used as it has benzyl alcohol in it to prevent any bacteria living in it therefore making it safe to put into your body. Go into the Q&A here at 24roids to learn more about HCG etc.
anonymous_565
No, don`t use distilled water. It`s not the same. Not clean. You can get proper water.very cheap at s medical supply store.
Mike Jones
This product comes with solution I’d expect bac water but depending on your cycle 250iu every 3 days is optimal. The half life of HCG is 5days
JESSE PEARSON
The reason others have recommended using bacterostatic water is due to there being a preservative in it that allows the product to last much longer than if mixed with sodium chloride. Advice on what dose to use and how often is all over the place and has been for a while. So all of the other theories aside, here is what has reliably worked for me. I`ve found that 250iu`s taken every 5 days is perfect throughout a cycle, or the last few months of a really long cycle. More than that and my estrogen gets too high.