Running a GH, sust and tren ace cycle. Sust I`m going to pyramid for 16 weeks hitting 1000mg peak week and tren ace 100mg EOD for 8 weeks with GH for probably 6 months. I want to run the HCG thru my whole sust cycle so my question is how much HCG a week should I be taking? Also for PCT I was going to run clomids, how much and for how long should I run the clomids? Thanks in advance for the help!
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
HCG at 500 IU 2x week and clomid at 100/100/50/50 starting 10 days after your last injection. Good luck!
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Zilla User profile
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
You can do hcg at 250 ius eod or 500 ius 2x wk. Two wks before the end of my cycle I always bump hcg up to 750 ius eod for a wk, then 500 ius eod for 10 days, then 250 ius eod for a wk (24 days). This aids pct tremendously. Then start pct with clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 02, 2020
I recommend you pin 500iu twice a week during cycle. Then transition into pct and stop pinning hcg. Then take clomid at 100/100/50/50 for 4 weeks and you will be gtg! You will recovered really fast! Since you technically you didn`t shut down your test. But your hypothalamus did. So 500iu hcg twice a week and clomid as stated above. Good luck my friend! Don`t forget to vote.
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I`m coming through a 8 month cycle and adding in HCG to let my boys know they`re still needed. I`m not sure how much I should do at anytime and for how long. Any suggestions would help, thank you.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Sep 30, 2020
I would get a 5000 IU bottle reconstituted with 1 ml then every 5 units is 250 IU I would go 250 once a day and till the bottles gone
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JohnCummings User profile
Answered: Sep 30, 2020
250 to 500 iu a day until you get some size back, then start the clomid. Have some arimidex on hand or Aromasin if you prefer it, because hcg is estrogenic, and sides are possible. Good luck.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 30, 2020
8 months has little bit ridiculous for a cycle length I would never go that long 20 weeks Max on anyting. Use the answers above for the dosages. You keep taking Cycles like this it`s going to be ineffective your body`s going to get used to taking in there was a mountain is going to need those amounts to function properly. Have you ever seen Rich Piana talking about being natural and being on steroids you`re going to make your body naturally need that amount just to function. And you`re going to be training like you are natural because you abused them for a ridiculous amount of time
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 30, 2020
Goddamn 32 weeks??!! Brother your boys moved out and left the country! just joking hahaha If you have time before you start your pct of clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20 pin 500iu eod for 4 weeks. but if you don`t have time and are planning to start your pct in 2 weeks then pin 1,500iu eod then transition into pct but not with pct. The goal is to get hcg to mimick LH to bind to LH receptors to make test. Then the serms with take over to trigger your hypothalamus to release GnRH to stimulate the anterior pituitary gland to release both LH and FSH which then made natty and sperms. Since your receptors has bend dormant, getting it back to bind is the tricky part so either you introduce hcg at low dose but longer duration or high dose at short duration. The objective is to get the LH receptors to recognize the mimick ligand of hcg and then native ligand of LH. I usually run a 20 weeks EQ/test cycle and it`s really hard to get my natty back fast enough to not lose any gain so adding hcg before pct shorten the recovery dramatically. i pin 1,500iu eod for a little over 2 weeks then start pct. And i tell you it works! Good luck brother and don`t forget to vote for gp sustanon270 for potw. thanks!
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Onyx User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 30, 2020
Use 250- 500 iu every day for about 2 weeks followed by proper pct nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50
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LennyCardone User profile
Answered: Sep 30, 2020
Sound advice from everyone thank you.
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I`m guessing an insulin syringe is used for this. Not seeing any in stock here maybe im missing them also how much and how many times a week is best , on cycle or off
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
You can buy insulin syringes legally at your local pharmacy which is probably why they aren`t on here. 500IU 2x a week is what most people take.
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RyanVogel User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
You can by insulin syringes at your local cvs without prescription I use 500iu 3xweek mon/wed/fri
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Zilla User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
You can buy insulin syringes almost anywhere. Walmart, cvs, local pharmacy, etc.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
I use 31g slin pins for HcG and HGH. Buy by the 100s from amazon, cheap. You can also use 29g. Sometimes I`ll use short 29g and pin in buttocks sub-q.
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Star Fox User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
31g 1/2inch work great. Like others said they are cheap and available online. Good luck.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
I recommend the 31 ga needles personally. If you`re trying to avoid testicular atrophy, 500IU twice a week is what a doctor would prescribe you. If you just finished a cycle. Shooting 2-3000IU`s a week before PCT isn`t uncommon. There`s more than one way to do this. Provide some detail and you can get better answers. Good luck.
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JasonFrederick User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
Yep TA is what I have trying to fix that I`m on trt through my endo but they don`t provide this and I was told its very necessary.
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JasonFrederick User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
so it gets injected just under the skin?
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How do I mix this with the bacteriostatic water? The how-to videos I`ve seen show the user with an additional sterile vial to mix into, but I don`t have that. I have:10000iu HCG powder30ml bacteriostatic watersodium chloride solution can I just mix the bacteriostatic water into the HCG Ampule? How many ML of bacteriostatic water, and does it need to be refrigerated after?
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 24, 2020
The ampuole is made to be snapped at the neck on top and then open to the environment. Once reconstituted you need to transfer hgh solution to a container that are sterile and a way you can access the solution with minimum risk of airborne organisms to contaminate you hcg solution. So that would be a vial with a sealed rubber stopper like all your gear. If you have a sterile vial then you could draw 28ml of bacteriostatic water from the 30ml bacteriostatic sodium chloride bottle you have and discarded it. This will leave you with 2ml of bacteriostatic water. Then take 1ml from the 2ml bact water and reconstitute hcg in the ampuole. Then take reconstituted hcg and transfer back to the 30ml vial. now you will have 10,000iu hcg per 2ml which is the same as 5,000iu per 1ml which is also the same as 500iu per 0.1ml. this is perfect for aliquoting with an insulin syringe which has “10” marking to 0.1ml. The other option is transfer 1ml of bacteriostatic water to the hcg ampuole. Then “cap” it or wrap it with a fresh aluminum foil. Aluminum foil is pretty sterile without sterilization like autoclaving (since you are in a pinch). Let us know if you have questions. Don`t forget to vote.
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JackB User profile
Answered: Jun 24, 2020
Can I do this: remove 24ml of bacteriostatic water. Take 1mg of bacteriostatic water and mix into HCG ampule. Take reconstituted HCG and inject back into bacteriostatic water. Take 1ml again from the bacteriostatic water (now mixed with 10000iu), inject into a 2nd ampule and repeat the previous steps twice more for a finished mix of 30000iu hcg with 6ml bacteriostatic water? Would it need to be refrigerated after and how long would it be good for?
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 25, 2020
yes you can. But it’s better to have 3 hcg ampuoles ready. draw out 3ml of bacteriostatic water, aliquote 1ml to each hcg vials. Then one by one draw and put back to the original bact vial. This way you only deal with the hcg minimally. Now you have 30,000iu per 6ml. that’s 5,000iu per 1ml which is the same as 500iu per 0.1ml. So here’s very important! That’s SIXTY 500iu! 60 pins of 500iu. Even at 1,000iu a week you have 30 weeks of hcg. Your hcg will go bad. You need to use all your reconstituted hcg in 4 weeks. Maybe 6 weeks tops!! Give me your plan first with hcg. maybe i can come up with a better solution.
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JackB User profile
Answered: Jun 25, 2020
I’m actually on 3000iu EOD for fertility
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 26, 2020
Shoot!! then you got no issue with shelf life!! And for fertility that’s sounds normal range from my research. Good luck to you and your wife!!
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Onyx User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 25, 2020
Das has explained well how to reconstitute the powder. I wish you luck!
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if you fill a insulin needle to 10 that 1000iu of HCG
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: May 19, 2020
yes buddy! It come with a 1ml solution. Once you added the 1ml solution, it will become 10,000iu per 1ml which is the same as 1,000iu per 0.1ml. Now if you use a 0.30ml or a 0.50ml or a 1.0ml insulin syringes, rack “10” markings is 0.1ml and therefore contain 1,000iu. Hope that helps! Don`t forget to vote.
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MikeOxlong User profile
Answered: May 19, 2020
Hey Tak, that all depends on how much bacteriostatic water you mix with the vial of HCG. If you mixed 1ml of water with this particular 10,000iu vial, you would only need to fill the insulin syringe to the 1 mark on a 1ml syringe to get 1000iu. If you mixed 2ml of bacteriostatic water with the vial, you would fill the syringe to the 2 mark to get 1000iu, and so on. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Joeskee User profile
Answered: May 19, 2020
Yes u put 1ml of bac water and every 10iu on an insulin needle is 1000 ius of hcg. Good luck.
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CommiBiden User profile
Answered: May 19, 2020
With all due respect, let me re write your question. When filling a 1ml syringe with 10000iu per ml HCG is 10% 1000iu? Yes. I write half asleep at times also, it happens
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Im now 59 and have been training for 35 years, mostly natural, but used “otc” pro hormones regularly 1990-2002, and then started doing occasional “real cycles”My endogenous test is now in the toilet : below 200, so my Dr finally put my on TRT at 150mg//week. My health is excellent except for high iron (I now give blood every 2-3 months), and I`m 5`8″, 188 lbs w a 33” waist. I want to do “cruise-blast” cycles year-round now, since going off completely and taking clomid and nolvadex as PCT is like trying to resurrect a dead horse. I would like to be able to add in some Anavar, equipoise, deca (for shoulder issues), and/or maybe even some Tren E (100mg/week) during my Blast cycles I`ve used Tren E before and aside from the Tren dick and night sweats it works great for size and muscularity. I never get the cough if I mix it in the same syringe w Test or equipoise. At this stage I don`t want to get huge, but rather stay as big and hard as possible into my mid-70`s. I`ve used HCG and arimidex in the past during the latter part of cycles to reduce testicular atrophy and aromitization problems as needed. Advice from the experts as to how I should proceed from here?thank you !
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cruise User profile
Answered: Mar 21, 2020
a cruise and last would work. cruise at 150mg for 4 to 6 weeks, then blast your cycles. sometimes you may need to cruise longer if you do a long blast tren cough is mostly from ace.
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AAS Gains User profile
Answered: Mar 21, 2020
i have opted to cruise year round as well and occasionally blast. Id pick a compound for your blast. either deca, or tren. pick one at a time. eq is something that has a very long half life, and usually doesn`t do much under 12 weeks. so id stick to deca, or tren. the cough come from tren ace, so if e works for you stick to it its the same just with a longer half life.
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Dromeo User profile
Answered: Mar 21, 2020
You sound like you know your shit. Test/ deca/ EQ is always a good cycle to run. Some people make the mistake of thinking that deca will heal joints. It doesn`t. It fills you with water which lubes you up so to speak. Test/ tren is a good cycle as well. You can even toss in the EQ with that. Cruise at 150mg – 250mg. Just make sure you have your ancillaries on hand. Caber, arimadex, aromasin, etc.
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blast User profile
Answered: Mar 21, 2020
cruise at your trt dose, and blast every couple months for 7-8 weeks. I prefer to use shorter ester to blast hard and come off. so i use tren ace and npp, and run them around 300mg annd 400mg respectively. you could cruise with eq for a while as well between blast and into cruises and out.
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ThePony User profile
Answered: Mar 21, 2020
using prohormoes over the counter for 12 years does not leave you close to natural, but see you have been for the last 18 years could be differrent. using them or not at 59 its to be expected. id be careful at your age using tren as it has negative effects on cholesterol and BP. Id stick with blasting at 300mg and adding in mild compounds like npp, primo, and var. the point is to lift into your 80s, not have a heart attack at 60.
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Jdawg User profile
Answered: Mar 21, 2020
Cruise and blast this. Great stuff right here, good for pct and during cycle. 1000iu to start and run 250 iu 2x a week
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Hi everyone I just wanted to know from ppl that have experience in using HCG if 1) – you can use it while on your cycle and 2) – does it really put the size back to original or does it or can it actually make your nuts bigger than before? Also does it have any abilities to increase your penis size as well?? Just curious cause I`ve read that it can increase both scrotum and penis!? So is there any truth to that? I sincerely appreciate your advice and experience in this area. I would be grateful for ppl who have a lot of experience with HCG to reply. Again thank you in advance.respectfully Jerseyboi
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 25, 2020
I use while on cycle and it keeps my boys feeling full at original size not bigger. For penis size it`s not bigger, but when my balls are fuller I get more frequent erections so in that sense the average size of my cock in a given day is bigger than when not on Hcg. After cycle i taper off over 2 week period.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 25, 2020
You can absolutely use it during your cycle, i often do at the end and for a month after. It gives a nice pop and i usually make some of my best gains. It does bring the boys up to speed quickly like within a week. I never noticed that it makes them bigger and it certainly has no effect on your penis size, if it did by now i would need a truss..sorry.
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Hcg User profile
Answered: Feb 25, 2020
It`ll keep some size in your boys. Won`t do anything for your penis size. It`s not suppressive and will raise your test as wel, but dose aromatize.
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Grow User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 25, 2020
Hcg is a must for me on cycle. It keeps your boys full and strong ejaculations
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pax east User profile
Answered: Feb 25, 2020
It restores them to original size and gets them working again, also increases test but dick won`t become huge unluckily lol
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Jersey User profile
Answered: Feb 25, 2020
250-500iu every few days will keep your boys in action and plump. Nothing for that shaft though.
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sup guys, im gonna run a test e only cycle for 12 weeks at 500mg a week , i was wondering for pct should i run hcg with nolva and clomid? and if so, how much units should i use a week ( 2 weeks from last pin )
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nickname_835 User profile
Answered: Jan 01, 2020
For simple pct you take clomid 50mg a day for 2 weeks, 2nd week drop it to 25mg for 2 weeks. For Nolva you take 40mg a day for 2 weeks and then drop to 20mg a day for the last 2 weeks. So you take both for a total of 3 weeks. And for hcg which everyone will give you a different opinion on you start taking it the last 2 weeks of your cycle think it`s 1000iu`s a week for 2 weeks I can`t remember the exact amount though, most people take it for if your balls shrink some, helps bring them back.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Jan 01, 2020
Yes run a basic pct,they are posted all over this site,hcg 3xweek Nolva 20mg 2xday clomid 50day
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JB205 User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 01, 2020
I`m on trt now, but when I would run a pct, I would always lower my test slowly down to about 100mg a week, the run clomid and nolvadex. You can use HCG it brings the testicles back quickly.
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Scozz User profile
Answered: Jan 01, 2020
I agree with the above saying to take clomid and nolva at dose for two weeks and then cut in half, that`s good info. I don`t think you necessarily have to do both for a test only cycle but it`s not going to hurt you if you do, if anything it would be you making sure you have a sound plan by doing both. Hcg every one will give you a different answer, personally I do 500 iu 3 times a week for 3-4 weeks depending how I feel and it`s always worked fine that way for me.
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Taylor User profile
Answered: Jan 01, 2020
Start your PCT 14 days after your last injection. Using Clomid and Nolvadex will be fine slowly lowering your dosage towards the end. I agree with the 500ius of HCG 3x`s per week for 3-4 weeks.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 01, 2020
hCG not necessary for such short and easy cycle. Never run hCG during PCT either, since hCG by itself is also suppressing your natural hormonal production. Stick with Nolvadex only, or if you want, add Clomid as well, it`s optional for such a short cycle as well.
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So I added the 1ml solution. What is the dosage for this now at 250 iu on the insulin syringe? Is it on the 25 line? I`m just trying to make sure I inject the equivalent of that.
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Lorddrip User profile
Answered: Dec 30, 2019
You are correct my good sir your math is on point and my the test gods rain down with hcg and nolvadex showers
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 30, 2019
Hey Aces, first of all you should not add the solution that comes with it. BAC water will last longer but no worries just know for next time. On an insulin syringe, pulling it to 2.5 (out of 100, or 1mL, or 1 cc) will give you 250iu. This is a very very small amount of liquid. You want 2.5/100 mL for 250/10,000 iu. Makes sense. Don`t listen to any other answers that tell you different. DO NOT GO TO THE 25 LINE. That is 1/4 of 10,000 or 2500iu. Thanks for the question.
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nickname_629 User profile
Answered: Dec 30, 2019
So each ML equals 10,000iu, which is pretty concentrated. You essentially have to “do the math”, meaning that you need 0.025 of a ml in order to dose 250iu. You may want to consider adding more liquid, as this will be difficult to accurately dose, even with an insulin syringe.
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Johny User profile
Answered: Dec 30, 2019
That`s way too little liquid to add. You should add another 3ml into it. Then 10iu`s or 1 on the insulin pin will be equal to 250iu`s. It`s still a very small amount but easyier to guage and measure. Hope that helps.
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Nathan Co User profile
Answered: Dec 30, 2019
I agree with Johnny up above. You would wanna do more fluid reconstituted with this. There are Reconsitution Calulators that you can find online. You can do you own math, then check you math with these calulators just to make sure. That`s what I always do. Also, get bacteriostatic water. You can get a 30ml vial for about $3-$6 online.
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Dromeo User profile
Answered: Dec 30, 2019
Listen to JuiceNaps.
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I recently ordered a package they sent it through DHL it`s been at defray de for a week I don`t know why they didn`t use USPS has anyone had this problem where it was stuck in The defray de
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 14, 2019
Hey Don, I`ve had some packages say “DHL” but it`s really been USPS. I would give your order some time then throw the tracking number into USPS tracking. Apparently orders are taking almost 30 days to deliver at the moment so it`s definitely a patience game. No need to worry until 30 days have gone by then you can contact Naps and they will sort you out. Checking the tracking number often doesn`t provide accurate timelines and makes me crazy so I stopped doing it! All my packages have shown up. Thanks for the question
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JB205 User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 14, 2019
I just had a package sent DHL and once it was shipped from origin, the tracking did not really update until the same day it was delivered then everything update all at once.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Answered: Dec 14, 2019
My last order was delivered DHL and it got stuck in a few places for some odd reason but still arrived pretty fast. My usps only gets stuck at customs.
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Jackson User profile
Answered: Dec 14, 2019
I have had a few packages ship DHL. It doesn`t track the same if update as quickly but I recurved all my gear each and every time without any issues. Best of luck
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 14, 2019
Juice is right. A lot of numbers may say DHL, but are actually USPS. Although at this time of year it`s probably going to be slower delivery. I`m waiting on a couple packages from early November and tracking hasn`t been as prompt as earlier this year
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Caleb User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 14, 2019
Google the tracking info instead and it will take you right to the right website, sometimes if you track through usps they don`t update until they received the package which could be few weeks
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I see now that i purchased a solution and not a powder. If this is unmixed do i need to keep it in my fridge? I just started cycle and i would hate to throw this in my fridge for 16 weeks
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Nov 13, 2019
You only need to refrigerate hcg after its been reconstituted
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skitt User profile
Answered: Nov 13, 2019
If its not mixed, I believe a cool dark place like your drawer would be fine.. but if mixed then yes your fridge but either way I don`t think keeping it in your fridge is going to ruin it…good luck
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Drew User profile
Answered: Nov 13, 2019
You do not have to refrigerate this product until you mix them together once mixed it need to stay refrigerated.
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nickname_610 User profile
Answered: Nov 13, 2019
I keep it anyway in refrigerator even it not mixed.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Nov 13, 2019
After reconstitution make sure to refrigerate it. Before mixing it it doesn`t require refrigeration but afterwards it does.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 13, 2019
Definitely I would keep it in the fridge either way but good question. I am going to buy one like that next time — I`m new to HCG and didn`t know not to use the liquid that comes with it. Thanks for the question.
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Have you heard of Running HCG(250) maybe twice per week and a high level of Zinc (50mg) a day “off cycle” to maximize your testosterone production and ball size? Maybe just restoring test production isn`t enough. I`m 40 and I cycle on and off “Test” and various other test combinations. My test seems to stay/be at 500 when recovered granted I have stayed on HCG through my cycle and off now for over 2 months. My question is have we not addressed all the reasons to use HCG. I used through a cycle, and didn`t use a proper PCT because I felt HCG during and post cycle with minimal AI`s for my estrogen sides were working good. I don`t know how much you really need a “PCT” when you run HCG during and through and past a cycle. I`m recovered fine but I also wonder if I could spike my natural test levels with HCG and Zinc like above 500. Some men my age have natural levels at 900. I`d like that if that were true for me. I`d appreciate any comments and answers especially if you are well versed in this.V/R BB
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
I’m pretty sure you will still need to PCT if you are on and off testosterone because the HCG is basically a hormone that gets downtegulated just the same as test. So if you think about it taking test is shutting down cells in your testes which make them smaller and taking HCG is telling your body don’t produce any LH which in turn tells your body to make testosterone. So coming off HCG will basically do the same thing coming off testosterone will do, it allows your body to product the pituitary hormones that are precursors to the actual hormone. Without getting into a biology lesson you need to PCT to get your body to produce hormones like normal. Without doing so is sort of like adding fuel to a fire and saying “look the wood is burning on its own.” It may appear to be working on its own but it’s just the fuel you are burning off.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Do clomid for like 4 weeks and you`ll be fine. Or better blast and cruise. Blast is higher doses. Cruise is test between 200mg to 300mg weekly to maintain. Cruising saves tye roller-coaster effect on your endocrine system and preserves better gains. If yiu ever decide to come off completely, run clomid and nolvadex for like 4 or maybe 6 weeks.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Like above said do pct clomid and nolvadex or just blast and cruise forever, just be responsible and take care
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
You still need a pct with clomid or nolvadex for 4-6 weeks. Hcg alone will not suffice
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anonymous255 User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Yes you can spike you natural testosterone in your off periodw with HCG and zinc. Adding clomid to this will help spike your natural testosterone as well.
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Zeke User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
You could theoretically do this, but the increase is going to be negligible and likely not worth the risk of upsetting your normal hormone balance.
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How should i dose HCG to get the nuts up again? Should i begin while on cycle or immediately after cycle? How much, how often?
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Test Case User profile
Answered: Oct 10, 2019
my doctor does it while having me test c.. he doesn`t take me off my trt. just to put me on hcg…. hopes this helps.. .. so it would be my guess that either way would be fine..
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Canadian User profile
Answered: Oct 10, 2019
Theres a few different protocols. But I use it the last 3 weeks of my cycle before starting initial pct. 250iu eod. Did this as a freshman in college and I do it now (when I need to). Although I`m pretty sure you can still use it post cycle. I just use the protocol my buddy showed me back in the day and it seems to get the balls rolling again.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 10, 2019
You can still use it during PCT, but it`s not advised..like Canadian said, start a couple of weeks prior to PCT at the tail end of your cycle. 250iu may be sufficient, I always have ran 500iu EOD. Hope this helps, good luck
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Md Phd User profile
Answered: Oct 10, 2019
With HCG there are two approaches. You can maintain a bit or run a higher level to encourage recovery from exogenous testosterone which suppresses intratesticular testosterone production, which is an absolute prerequisite for normal spermatogenesis. 500iu 3X per week. Keep asking questions
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skitt User profile
Answered: Oct 10, 2019
Agreed, I would use it last 2 to 3 weeks of your cycle including up to the day of your PCT. at 250 to 500mg 2 or 3 times a weeks… But I would NOT use it during your PCT… Do research and you will find the HCG does play a role on your estrogen levels rising, meaning while doing your PCT and not pinning your trying to keep your levels down so natural test starts back up.. Makes no since to put a substance in you that can raise your estrogen levels while your test is at a all time low.. Just saying…same with being on cycle.. some guys like to use it for whole cycle but I would not… signal gets sent to your pituitary gland to shut down cause you have an abundent amount of test being pinned in ya, so why put a substance thats sending the opposite signal to fire it back up while on cycle.. makes no since to me… anyways thats just me… again use it last few weeks of cycle leading up to PCT then stop when you start PCT… Good luck
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Oct 10, 2019
250iu 2xs per week will get the boys full again
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Any ideas on injecting HCG into shoulder? I have been reading it is pretty effective but I figured I would reach out to the pros for sure. I am going to run HCG for the duration of my cycle at a low dose and than for about 2 months after. I aim for right under the skin, possibly into the delt if I can get there with the insulin syringe. Feedback appreciated.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
Injecting in the delt will be no more effective than injecting anywhere else. With HCG, it will be an insulin needle you use and the side and front delt are the 2 spots to inject. Rear delt is difficult to get a good angle on unless someone else is injecting you. Try for getting the shot into the muscle. If you`re relatively lean, you should have no problem with that.
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Maison Jardin User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
There is no difference if you inject the hcg in your Stomach your Shoulder is the time release that GGG releases into your body the stomach he releases into three hours in the shoulder releases with in seven or eight hours therefore you shoulder is better spot to go
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Dalton Carpenter User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
people make sthings too complicated, there is no difference injecting in your delt vs in your stomach
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
I’m a Nurse and this is meant to be a subq injection which means beneath the skin. You don’t want to go deep enough that’s its into your muscle. You can realistically inject anywhere so long as it’s below the skin and above the muscle and into the thin layer of fat. This would be a lot easier if you picked a location that had deeper fat deposits like the abdomen or the love handle area. I use 5/16″ 31g needles for HCG and this is the perfect depth. The skin is never more than quarter of an inch thick. But the answer is you can inject there but there are much better places to inject. I’d try a different spot if I were you.
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Dan J User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
You can inject it anyway you`d like, subq, intramuscular, doesn`t matter all that much. It`s not standard though. Yes, you can inject it intramuscularly, it won`t change bio-availability, you can Google it. Not sure why you`d want to inject into should though, hCG is about the easiest thing to inject.
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smalldres User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
There are no added benefits or difference between injecting HCG IM vs. Subq
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What is the best was to store the mixed solution? I usually draw it up in pre measured insulin syringes and store them In a ziplock bag in the back of my refrigerator. Will this work?
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: May 02, 2019
Yes, that`s fine. HCG is supposed to be stored in a refrigerator after mixed and should last roughly 3-4 weeks. When it sits at room temperature, it degrades much faster.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: May 02, 2019
Yeah that will work. You can preload your syringes or store it in the refrigerator in the vial, it doesn’t matter much which one you choose. So long as you refrigerate after mixing and use within two months of mixing.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: May 02, 2019
Yeah that works fine. It can be kept in syringes in the fridge.
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Micheal Ervin User profile
Answered: May 02, 2019
I personally preload my slin pens and put them in the freezer, they are still effective and last longer than just fridge temp
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B Rad User profile Expert
Answered: May 02, 2019
Thats a good method, keeping them in the back of the refrigerator like you mentioned definitely helps to avoid any temperature fluctuations that happen near the front.
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Gregarious User profile
Answered: May 02, 2019
Yes, this is ok, as long as the solution is refrigerated, preloading of syringes is fine. You should use the preloaded syringes within two months, so don’t preload too many!
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I’ve read that you should take HCG 6 weeks in cycle and I’ve read that you should take it during the whole duration of the cycle. When should I take my HCG and for how long after cycle for the best results?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: May 01, 2019
So both are right, but it depends on the esters you are using, the quicker the ester, the quicker your HTPA will shut down and the more compounds being used will also affect the rate of shut down so for a basic test only cycle of test c or e there’s no point in starting immediately because it hasnt even started to take full effect the first week so I’d say wait till week 6 cause generally around week 8 you’ll have full shutdown, but if your using test/deca/dbol take it for the duration of the cycle same goes for any quick acting esters such as prop/ace/hex or mixed esters, for best results continue hcg until the day you start pct then run your pct for 4-6 weeks and it will have made a huge difference in recovery without it
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Tren Man User profile
Answered: May 02, 2019
You can take it during the cycle. There was a myth about HCG that was way overblown. People thought if they take HCG during the cycle they will desensitize LH receptors and therefore permanently shut down their natural test production. LH(Luteinizing hormone) is a hormone produced by pituitary gland and it basically sends message to testicles to produce testosterone. All you need to maintain your testicles and keep them from atrophy is 250iu twice a week. HCG has been approved by FDA for mega doses(4000iu a week) and taken for months at a time. FDA doesn`t approve something that can potentially lead to castration.
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: May 03, 2019
Take HCG during the cycle so you won`t have any downtime.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: May 03, 2019
Yes you are correct you can start taking HCG while you are still on cycle.
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Muscle pup User profile
Answered: May 03, 2019
Depends if you want to keep your balls working during cycle or if you want to restart them post cycle. During cycle take 250iu twice per week toward the end of your cycle
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mchilds User profile
Answered: May 04, 2019
There are multiple reasons why people take during cycle such as fertility and increasing LH but you would have to research the benefits. I take 250 twice a week as prescribed by my trt doc but many who aren’t on trt only take it post cycle. You can really do either. Do the research and decide for yourself but either way you won’t be wrong as long as you dose it appropriately.
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Hello friends. I have a important question about fertomid and fertifyn also. I was on steroids 3 years ago and I was recomended by the guy who selled to me that use fertigyn and fertomid after every three mounths xycle to clean my body and start again. I remember he usually gave me to boxes of fertygin that comes with the water and like 10 pills of the fertomid. But I dont remember what was the doses of each one. I am afraid to use to much or too little. I also remember my balls sack when completly back to normal agter these 20 days of cleaning progrees. Excuse my bad english and I will really apreciate your good advices. Thanks a lot.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 20, 2019
First you won’t get any negative effects per se using to much hcg besides desensitizing the leydig cells that hcg stimulates, for the use of hcg tho the best protocol to use it, is to use it on cycle either from the beginning of your cycle or 6 weeks into your cycle at 250iu twice a week. This is because the use of hcg for our purposes is to restart your testicular-pituitary axis that is shut down due to the use of anabolics, if you use hcg while on cycle you don’t have to restart the testes they will continue to operate at normal functioning, imagine your testes as a Diesel engine it’s easier to keep the engine going then to have to restart the engine after it shuts off/runs out of fuel
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RJB User profile
Answered: Apr 20, 2019
Agree with MJ if you are using during the cycle then no need to do after. Using as a Pct at the end will get your normal function back.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
I use 250iu every Mond and Thurs on cycle and I like using it for every cycle. Some only use I post cycle at 1000iu every day for day 10 days. There’s different ways you can do it.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
You don`t use hCG during PCT, you use it during cycle and end it 4-5 days before the start of your PCT. As for your Clomid PCT, you should switch to Nolvadex as it has better side effect profile and works just as fine, especially if you are doing a simple cycle (which I would assume you are). hCG 250-500 IU 2-3 times per week for last 4-6 weeks of your cycle. Nolvadex 40 mg/day for first 2 weeks, 20 mg/day for the next 2-4 weeks. Clomid you may include at the beginning of PCT, first 2 weeks at 50 mg/day for 25 mg/day.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
You definitely want to take 200-250iu of HcG every 3-4 days, I take 250iu every four days to keep my levels on point. I would begin this about a week into your cycle or even ten days and when you are completing your cycle you want to end your HcG at the last dose of Testosterone or about a week before it clears out of your system. As for the Flomid you want to take this after your cycle if finished. Most people think you only need HcG after your cycle but this is wrong. HcG will tell your testes to continue producing testosterone while the testosterone you are injecting will make your body think it is already producing enough, which makes your testes stop producing. By never “shutting down” your natural production you will never have to start them up again. Just allow them to stay normal the centers cycle and you will have much better results, especially during your PCT. You want to make sure during your PCT your estrogen-testosterone levels stay in proportion so listen to your body and watch your side effects and consider getting blood work done while in post-cycle. On cycle you will pretty much know your levels because you are putting them in your body but after you want to get blood work to really know where you’re at.
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smithpress User profile
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
Use the HCG during cycle and keep cycling, you never have to get off if you use HCG the whole time.
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The HCG comes in a ampoule that u have to break to open? How do you store the ampoule if you have to break the top? Or does the HCG come in a via with a rubber stopper i dont understand how would you store it safely if you have to break the ampoule to reconstitute the othe HCG products show a sealed Vial and a ampoule. While this product shows a picture of two ampoules. Is this product for a single use only?
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Micheal Ervin User profile
Answered: Apr 20, 2019
Simplest answer is to use it single use because ampule products of hcg are general used for medical purposes for fertility if you are going to be using hcg on cycle get a hcg product that will be mixed in a vial so that you can preserve the hcg for extended use I recommend bharat serums hcg
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Muscle Pup User profile
Answered: Apr 20, 2019
You’d have to buy a sterile vial and transfer/mix it in the vial using a sterile needle and syringe.
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TT KK User profile
Answered: Apr 21, 2019
You have to get a sterile vial somewhere else, HCG is approved for use with much higher dosages for different reasons. Some of these hcgs were meant to be all used when opened
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
You buy the bac water mix with the hcg powder GENTLY as HCG is fragile compound, and the store in the fridge. It will loose most of its potency after 3 weeks
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
hCG does indeed come in an ampule, and so does the saline water. So you get 2 ampules. It isn`t meant to be stored, since ampules are used for single injection, which is what this is made for. You need to buy bacteriostatic water separately (in a rubber multidose vial). You inject your bac water into the broken ampule with powder, you then withdraw the now diluted mixture of hCG and put it back into your multidose bac water. Store in fridge after that.
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Jaris User profile
Answered: Apr 23, 2019
You can split ampoules dosage, for example, you need only 0. 5ml and ampoule is 1ml, so that 0. 5 leftover goes to your syringe, and just wait for the nex injection. But make sure sterilize it before second use. You can just wipe it with alcohol
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This clearly says 1ml of HCG and Solution, so i will not to order bacteriostatic water correct?
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Muscle pup User profile
Answered: Apr 18, 2019
Each vial has 15iu. If you inject 1cc of bacteriostatic water, then two units on your insulin syringe will be 3iu.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 19, 2019
Not sure if muscle pop answered your question. Fertigyn brand definitely comes with a small bacteriostatic water vial. I have one in my refrigerator right now haha. The math is pretty easy but for the 10,000 IU kit when you add the single milliliter that they give you. 10 ticks on an insulin syringe is 1000 units.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Apr 19, 2019
Yeah it does with it. If you have calculation questions there’s HCG calculators on the internet to figure out the dose. Just search “HCG diet dose/constituting”
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: Apr 19, 2019
Yeah but you are going to have 1000iu per 1/10ml. In another words, 1/10 cc mistake and you will get an extra 1000iu of HCG. I would add 4ml of bac water so there will be 2000iu per ml.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 19, 2019
I always buy this exact hCG. You will get 2 ampules, 1 with the powder, and other one with saline solution (1mL). You need to buy bacteriostatic water yourself, as this product is meant for single injection only. I am afraid Lav3ga is wrong, this product does not come with a bacteriostatic water, nor does it come with multi-dose vial (it comes as saline inside an ampule, like already mentioned).
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 30, 2019
The only reason to buy bac water is if you want to further dilute the solution to get a smaller accurate dose, with 1ml of saline every 10 units will be 1000iu. Remember this comes in a ampule so if you want to use this for multi dose you’ll need sterile vial or buy another hcg product
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I understand how much to use and when to use HCG. I’ll use it for the last half of my cycle and discontinue once I start my PCt. I’ll run it at 500Iu p/week (2x250Iu). But my question is how do I mix it and know that I’m drawing 250Iu into my insulin syringe?? Appreciate the help fellas
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 21, 2019
Ok man think of it like this. You bought 10,000iu total, so if you want 250 iu in each pin you should get 40 pins total. (10,000/250). So now just add a known amount of water to the vial and divide it by 40. That is the number of mls you want to draw in each syringe. I would try to get 2ml in there so it`s easier to dose, but that might not fit in the vial. If you can fit 2ml in there then your looking to pull to the “5iu” line on a slin pin.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 21, 2019
Thankfully you understand how to use this product, now the math is the easy part. This product comes with 1ml of solution per 10,000iu of hcg now you can add more bac water for easier measurement if you’d like but at 1ml of solution you would draw to 2. 5 units on an insulin syringe if you were to have 2ml of bac water then obviously you’d draw to the 5 unit line like previously stated. And remember the iu dosage dose not correlate to the unit mark on the syringe, so the ppl that say the 1iu line means the 1 unit mark or notch on the syringe. Since this product comes in an ampule, after reconstitution you could transfer to an empty steril vial for storage in the fridge.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 22, 2019
Follow the instructions of the previous posters for particular mixture recipes. When you reconstitute, make a note of the amount of water that your added, and “do the math” to arrive at the desired dosage. Most would suggest that you add a volume of water that makes dosing simple and easy to measure.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 22, 2019
Mix using bacteriostatic water. Assuming you have a 1ml solution 250iu would be 2. 5 iu on the insulin syringe. a 2ml solution would mean that 250iu is the 5 iu mark
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 25, 2019
You get a multi-dose vial with bacteriostatic water. You first inject small amount of BAC water into the hCG crystals, wait for it to dissolve completely (DO NOT MIX OR SHAKE IT, it`s very sensitive, let it dissolve on it`s own), then you draw this solution back into syringe and put into your multi-dose BAC vial. Assuming this vial has 10 mL BAC, you now have a solution of 1000 IU/mL. For 250 IU, simply withdraw till 25 unit mark on your 1 mL syringe needle and inject subcutaneuously Make sure to store your vial in fridge! Stop using about 4-5 days before the start of your PCT (you`r last injection should be 4-5 days before PCT). The solution that comes with this kit isn`t BAC water, so you need to buy BAC water on your own. There are plenty of sources of it, incl. Amazon.
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Gregarious User profile
Answered: Mar 25, 2019
If HCG is 10000ius, mix with 20ml of bacteria static water. To make the concentration 250 ius per injection, pull plumber back . 5 mls for each injection. This will yield 40 total injections. You can then adjust accordingly by doing some simple math. Hope this helps.
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How often and how much should I use?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2019
Use anywhere from 250-500 iu twice per week.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 17, 2019
If used on cycle to keep your testes full and functioning, take 250 IU twice a week, Injected subconsciously with an insulin needle. If you’re taking this product for fat loss or other reasons, other dosages are recommended, but I’ve never use this product in that manner. Good luck!
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 17, 2019
Depending on the length of the cycle you`re using this in conjunction with you`ll want to use your HCG towards the middle to end. But not in post cycle therapy. For example, if you`re running a 12 or 16 week cycle, you`d use the HCG for the last 4 to 6 weeks of it. 250 to 500iu per week is about where you`ll want to he. But pay attention to how you feel, some people are sensitive to HCG and see estrogen related side effects from too high of a dose.
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Is there a recommended dosage and how often should it be taken
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 19, 2018
Studies have shown the best protocol is to take 250-400 iu twice a week, this will give you stable LH levels without de-sensitizing the leydig cells.
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bigmurph User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 23, 2018
This product comes with a pamphlet that explains the medical way of taking this medication.There are many different off label ways to use hcg for different reasons.I believe that you are probably asking about how you should take this compound during your cycle to help with your PCT.I have used HCG 3 different ways I have used the blast the before pct and the throughout your cycle. The best way in my opinion is to use throughout your cycle for 10wks at 500iu 2x a wk for 10wks right up until you begin your pct medications. Meaning even the 2 wks after your last testosterone injection you use the HCG then discontinue once you start your nolvadex and clomiphene.Another way to take it is the blast you can use it during the 2wk after your last testosterone injection. First injection is 5000iu 5 days later 2500iu 5 days later 2500iu then begin your PCT.That`s 2 different ways of taking HCG to help with PCT.
