GP Test Enanth 250 | Questions & Answers

Hey guys am looking to cruise on a cycle of test 250mg enanthate once every 7 days so one injection every week just that alone all year round. So basically this is like TRT but a high dose of TRT i don`t want to have to cycle on and off like your tradional gym guys who jump on 500mg for 6 -8 weeks and cycle of. Is this safe to do so just 250mg one injection every week all year round. I dont want to feel like shit cycling of tesostrone.
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Jogger User profile Expert

I would try about 140 every 5 days bro that’ll be more stable, and 5 days isn’t too soon I beleive
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A19 User profile

Do you ever want to have kids? If so, cruising is not what you want to do. If not, then yes, you can run test all year. With test enanthate every 5-7 days would suffice. Hope that helps. Don`t forget to vote. Thanks for the question.
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MattBeard User profile

My only advice would be to do it and after 3 months get blood work done and you will see how it all looks. If all ok then I guess high trt is fine for you. I inject 150 every 7 days on cruise and all is well within range.
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BigZ User profile

Best way is to try it for a little and get blood work done, everyone is different. I have friends who have high normal levels at 150mg of test a week and some need 250mg a week.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert

A true cruise is no more than roughly 300mg Testosterone per week. Adding other compounds will render you on a mild steroid cycle and you will not be cruising. A cruise avoids pct and muscle loss. Some cruise on a mere 150mg test weekly, while others opt for 200mg per week etc. I feel comfortable at 300mg test weekly but not more or I wouldn`t justify it as a cruise.
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EDubz User profile

If you blast and cruise or blast and trt you won`t feel like shit coming off the blast once you start your trt dose you`ll feel fine maybe your strength will go down a little bit but it`s not like you feel like shit but even at that trt dose I would split it into two injections per week just to keep your blood levels as stable as possible throughout the year
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My oil seems to be runny. Is that normal?
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EQhead User profile Expert

Yes, it is a liquid. Different carrier oils will have varying thickness or viscosity. You`re good man
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MattBeard User profile

Yes, prefer it like that, less pip in my short experience.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert

Some labs use thinner oil that is less viscous. I prefer thin runny oil personally. It feels less dense, is easier to draw and inject, and I presume it`ll cause less post injection pain and minimal to no scar tissue build up.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert

It`s normal. Geneza uses MCT oil which is very thin
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JohnSmith User profile

Yes, there isn`t a lot of molecular weight to it, as it`s just test and should be fairly thin.
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Jogger User profile Expert

Yeah bro used geneza and it’s runny, it’s the oil they use, mct, good luck with it
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Got my order in a few weeks ago and did my first pin 9 days ago. I`m running a super basic 250mg/week of just Test E but I noticed there is some pretty intense pip going on. Everything was sterile and done correctly as far as the actual pin went, but hot damn if it doesn`t feel like my ass got hit with a sledge hammer. I`m not really worried about an infection just yet but wanted to check if anyone else was having any pip issues with this.
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JohnSmith User profile

You`re not alone, anytime I first Introduce gp pils into my body I get insane pip, and insane fevers and swelling on the area. I`ve used them intermittently for almost a decade now. I`ve just steared clear off them. I have lots of clients who still use it, the drug themselves are great and give amazing results just not for my body and may be for yours as wel
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Will1 User profile Expert

Usually Test E I have zero problem with. But of course the compound itself isn`t the only thing that can give PIP. Die to not seeing what`s below the skin, it is always a gamble when you inject, even with compounds that tend not to hurt. I think you likely knicked something that`s extending the healing process. I know glutes were tougher for myself and I had knots every so often yet I inject in my quads or delts and it was barely ever I came across any PIP in those areas. If it`s red and very swollen, then you`d possibly have concern of an infection. If no swelling and it`s just feeling sensitive, then you`re safe. But keep an eye on it.
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RufusMcSteelson User profile

I think you`re right. My wife`s a nurse so I have her do the pins for me and the second pin was two days ago and while there`s some decent soreness, it`s significantly less than the other glute; at least for now. There`s a bit of mild swelling but no redness but hopefully it`ll start to finally go down this week! Thanks for the response.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Not sure on tour history with test but alot of the times when your new to pinning your muscle dont like it so like if you pin in your quad for the first time it hurts I could barely walk for a week the first time i pinned dragon test 350. It was horrible i limped forba week. But it was a virgin muscle. After a few times of horrific pain, now it doesnt hurt one bit the only thing that has hurt is primo but its hit or miss. What I am trying to say is it`s normal and should get better with time just practice pinning slowly dont for get to vote
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RufusMcSteelson User profile

I`ve done a few cycles in the past but this is the first one in about 5-6 years hence why it`s so basic. Just really don`t remember ever feeling like I had a massive leg workout for over a week straight like the first pin has felt so far. Thanks for the response
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Hey, so I`ve done a few cycles at 500mg/wk of cyp with a couple other compounds over the past 2yrs. My question is would I be able to do a cycle at 350mg/wk of sust with my calories high for a bulk to see results? Or would I benefit sticking with 500 since my body is somewhat used to taking that dose? Any experienced advice or info is appreciated. Thank you in advance
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nickname_238 User profile

No you don’t have to raise the dose every cycle. I have had many cycles when I kept growing and making great progress at the same dose. If you are getting great results don’t feel like you have to go higher, do what feels right for your body. Good luck. Take care.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert

Hey Dee. One of the selling points when Oganon first came out with Susta 250 (besides less frequent dosing) was decreased sides and the same or better effects at lower doses. In truth, i have never noticed this but it does seem plausible. The theory is that the different esters attach to the receptors in a slightly different manner and that the steady, sustained levels provide better outcomes. I kind of feel test is test but i do use sustanon (some form of it) for my testerone backbone almost always. I have had my levels checked frequently on sust and find that i can absolutely get away with once a week dosing (the mfg recommendation) or perhaps even every 10 days. I dose twice a week typically because i am usually stacking with something else that requires twice a week dosing anyhow so i just mix them less total volume per injection. I am a big fan of the lowest effective dose but for me 350mg is as low as i ever go (except TRT). Expecting huge results of 350mg is probably asking a bit much of your gear-but everyone is different and you are new. If i were you i might pyramid like we did in the old days. 350mg for a few weeks 500mg for a few then back to 350mg again. It will give you less total drug for the cycle and a slightly easier transition into PCT. Just my thoughts hope it helps
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A19 User profile

350mg/week would be sufficient. The difference maker when it comes to gaining size is your diet. Eat clean and at a caloric surplus combined with a strict workout refit and you can pack on some serious pounds. Hope that helps. Don`t forget to vote. Thanks for the question.
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nickname_311 User profile

You can keep it low like that and still see results, but not as much as 500.
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So doing sust 500 eq 400 for 15 weeks with a dbol kicker would it be better to add 5 more weeks of sust and eq or do eq with test e at 500/750 and 400 eq? I could start post cycle faster with test e i start 3 weeks after sust why mot keep the most test possible till post cycle?
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Will1 User profile Expert

If you want to keep your blood levels stable, don`t switch between Sust and Cyp. Just go with one all the way through. Sust has long acting test in it, so it will fade off just as fine as Cyp. Just the short ester running down quicker but overall will not make a difference in your progress. With EQ, I always found it better to go 18-20 weeks, but that`s just my preference.
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert

It`s better to choose one of the test esters and go with that one. Unstable blood levels will cause acne and they are both test at the end of the day.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert

Brother you making this too complicated. Here`s my recommendation, since you are using dbol to kickstart then it doesn`t matter which test you are using, sustanon or testE. Sust do have fast acting esters but Once your your body is saturated with test it doesn`t make a difference if you use sust or testE. But just pick on type of test. Since eq take 5 weeks to kick in i usually stay on eq for 20 weeks. But since it`s a long ass time my boys will also be shut down for a long time as well so therefore i incorporate hcg in my pct or while on cycle. one more thing, test at 500mg and eq at 600mg a week. Split it into 2 pins. Hope you have nolva for gyno. clomid for pct. and arimidex for estrogen. hope that helps buddy! Don`t forget to vote EQ500 and up arrow.
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DanielChristianson User profile

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So i got 500 hcg a week nova and armidex …xlomid for pct i was going to run adx at .5 eod but did a cycle with sust 500 deca 400 with no ai and couldnt do pct i had no issues during but lost it at lack of pct but deployments are unreliable lol……instead of switching it up how about adding 14 weeks of proverion?
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crazy Dan User profile Expert

Don’t do anything you are uncomfortable with. If what you’ve been doing previous cycle give you good gain then stick with it. There’s no need to chance. We are here to give you, in our opinion, something different and maybe better, in our opinion and experience. Stick with your plan sust 500mg and 400mg EQ with a 5 weeks dbol as a kickstart is plenty. Don’t add 2 orals in your cycle since they put stress on your liver. I think you should concentrate on keeping your gain by getting your natty back asap as soon as you are off cycle. You accomplish this by pinning hcg 500iu a week right up to when you start pct but not with pct. Clomid 100/100/50/50 is fine bu i also add nolva 40/40/20/20. The sooner your natty get back the sooner you can keep you gain. Or else you continue to lose gain as soon as exogenous test is out of your body. Hope that clear. And since you use EQ, don’t forget to vote EQ500 for this week potw.
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DanielChristianson User profile

This is 10ml, or 10cc. Each ml/cc is 250mg.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Each bottle is 10ml thays 10 cc each cc is 250 mg so for 500mg per week bottle will last 5 weeks.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert

10ml or also referred to as 10cc.
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Traianos123 User profile

10cc or 10ml, and each cc got 250mg
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert

TEN cc`s! Enjoy.
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Star Fox User profile

Each has 10ml or cc. Good question and good idea to confirm.
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EQhead User profile Expert

10cc = 10ml. This is 2500mg/10ml(cc) or 250mg/ml(cc). Cheers bud!
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.50 caliber User profile

there are 10 cc/ml in each vial ml and cc are equal measurements 250 mg in each cc/ml so the vial contains 2500 mgs of test e
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Currently using GP test cyp 350mg a week, and I`m having some issues with bloating/ water retention. Estrogen levels are slightly under 30 normal range and I`m running proviron at 75mg a day. I have read that out of all the tests cyp as the most bloat. Has anyone that`s used both seen less bloat using Test E or about the same?? I see this Test E gets a ton of heat reviews. Diet is in check as well keeping the carbs lower and the sodium intake down.
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Traianos123 User profile

Except taking an AI during the cycle i dont see any solution, your dose is already low, maybe your body is prone to bloating. Even at high dosages i dont have problems with the water weight and also i use Dbol that is known as a steroid that produce water weight but i do take an AI during the cycle, i think this is the solution for u.
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nickname_238 User profile

Test E and C are pretty much the same. Unless you want to pin everyday or eod, you can try test prop and see how you respond. As long as my diet is in check it really doesn’t matter what kind of testosterone I take. Also Not saying go crazy with the salt but it’s good to salt your meals a little for cramping and overall mineral balance in the body. Try drinking more water. Also try adjusting your AI to .5 three times a week. Good luck. Take care.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert

I interchange Cyp and Enanthate all the time without seeing any issues. If you`re feeling like you`re holding water while on low Test and 75mgs/day Proviron, I`d have to see your diet and your BF% because you can look pretty shredded on something simple like that. Reply with your accurate body stats and maybe we can provide more help.
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BigZ User profile

6 foot, 230 15% body fat
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Cypionate should have the lease bloat it has a longer half life if it is a problem take arimadex at .5mg 2 or 3 times a week. And may e next cycle use test propionate that may help. Keep sodium low and drink extra water do some cardio to sweat a little and I have actually used lasix every once in a while just to drain some water
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BigZ User profile

I have aromasin. 12.5 mg every 2-3 days?
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Just got my test e in and im running it with tren. Question is in the interest of having one injection instead of 2 separate ones can I put both in same syringe? I`d rather poke myself once vs twice.
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Mr and Mrs J User profile

You can absolutely put them both in the same pin.
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G$$ User profile

Yes I recommend putting them both in the same syringe
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Ya that`s how you do it dill up that syringe. But you may be better off pinning twice a week it helps to lower the spikes and that may make it have less side effects. But it`s up to you. Enjoy the cycle
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

Yes. Oils that are intramuscular injection can be mixed with each other. You would not mix water based that go SubQ with oilbased though. So if you were to shoot HGH, HcG, etc, seperate pins.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert

Yes, it`s a common practice actually
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert

I`m assuming you are using Tren Enanthate? If so, injected both compounds every 3.5 days and enjoy the ride. I`m guessing this is your first time. Good luck.
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EDubz User profile

To be honest if you have to ask this question your probably not ready to start Tren. Not trying to be an ass just saying
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Opengyms User profile

Yes, I draw them into the same syringe and pin once. No need to double the pinning.
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Where does Geneva Pharma ship out of?
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Swoleville User profile Expert

It ships from Malaysia. Due to the pandemic my last order shipped from the Netherlands.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

Same from my experience as above. I`ve had some ship from Netherlands, most ship from Malaysia. Most UGLs don`t advertise the specific country, otherwise it would defeat the purpose of it being “underground”. Even brands labeled “Ships from Europe” don`t list the specific country.
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Shnicken User profile

I only order Geneza and mine always ships out of Malaysia. Shipping is usually always quicker than I expect, hence the reason I love 24roids and just keep coming back.
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Jason123 User profile

I got an order a few weeks ago and it shipped from Malaysia. Once shipped it took 31 days to receive.
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Joeskee User profile

They ship out of Malaysia and for some reason Geneza and dragon are on time with there shipping time for some reason even in the pandemic.
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Hey guys, would there be any benefit to frontloading a the first 4 weeks with npp on a 12week cycle of this stuff? Happened to have a some npp on hand but not enough to run the full length of cycle just wondering if this would be beneficial or if I should just save npp for future cycle. TIA
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Jasonhodges User profile

Frontloading is bro science. You won`t absorb it any faster that just means let`s say you front load test e your cycle plans on 500 a week. It will kick in 2-4 weeks later so you think pinning double or triple the dosage will make it absorb faster? No that just means your first week where you doubled the dosage you`ll be on 1000mg when it kicks in. That`s why people kickstart kickstart with orals man it basically gives what a frontload would if a frontload did in fact work.
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Jasonhodges User profile

I`d save the npp. But in my case I have some deca leftover over and not enough to run a cycle but I don`t have 2 weeks worth which will be enough to make my shoulder and joints feel better.
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Uhoh38125 User profile

i would stretch the npp across the cycle at a low therapeutic dose if i had it…. to make my joints feel great and protect from injury… just my thoughts but im 47… my joints fucking hurt lol.
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Jason123 User profile

Save it or run it low dose and get some therapeutic benefit for your joints.
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Tried my best to find something but could find the info I wanted. whete is everyone getting blood tests done at? I saw a guide on reddit /steroids wiki but paying 300 for a test sounds odd. Is anyone doing at home test kits, or could point me in the right direction. What`s the name of the test I should be getting. I live in a state that won`t do testing without doctor order. thanks
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Branko User profile

Hey man, alot of guys use discount labs. Comm
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KennyNolf User profile

Go to your MD. There is doctor patient privilege and he can`t say shit. Tell him what your doing and you need blood work for whatever you want to know.
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Heavy Lifted 91 User profile

you might of seen my comment on someone else`s question. Go to privatelabsmd and scroll down till you find female hormone panel test. It`s like $70 bucks. It has everything you need to be tested and you`ll tell them your male before the testing. Unless you want a full hormone panel test it`s like $250-300. Buy the female panel test, take it to labcorp or a blood testing center and they will do it for you. It`s completely private so your regular doctor would never know.
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Star Fox User profile

So you have several option. If you have insurance then the best and cheapest option is to be honest with your doctor. HIPPA has your back and your doc can`t reveal shit. Most are very understanding anyways. If you happen to get a judgemental prick then this would be a good test and good reason to change them lol. The other option is to pay anymous labs like discountlabs dot com or privatelabsmd. They are spendy but pretty fast and most importantly no questions asked. Good question and good on you for thinking about getting tests done. Good luck bro!
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nickname_404 User profile Expert

Unfortunately, if your name is any clue you will be unable to use any of the online sites like discountedlabs or privatemd that the other guys mentioned, that practice is prohibited in NY, NY and RI-which is bullshit. But if you dont live in NJ I would suggest discountedlabs, i use them yesterday, they provide a doctor who calls in what you want as part of the fee. All 50 states requires an MD to order labs BTW.
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Hey fellas. I`m 6` 245 pounds and looking to start my first cycle ever. I`m looking at Test E, Arimidex, Clomid and Nolva… I`m just not too sure about the dosing and timing. I`ve done research online but it can get a little confusing. Are these good enough to have an effective cycle as well as run a good PCT?? A little advice on how much and when to administer would be appreciated brothers!
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

500mg per week you can pin it once or split personal preference some armidex or anastrolozo witch I perfere dont use until symptons start
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MikeOxlong User profile

Hey Trav, good question. I`m surprised more members haven`t jumped in on this one yet. One thing you failed to mention was your age. I`m in my late 40`s and I don`t waste my time or money on PCT anymore. No need in purchasing clomid and nolvadex if you`re going to lose the majority of your gains from cycle. If you`re younger, PCT is good, but if you`re nearing 50, just blast and cruise and keep your gains year round. If you`re set on PCT, the “normal” PCT is 4 weeks of clomid 50mg per day for the first two weeks, 25mg for the last two and tamoxifen 20mg for the first two weeks, 10mg for the last two. Some will throw in HCG (250-500) for a couple weeks to kick start the testicles. As far as your cycle goes, 500mg Test E split twice a week will yield big gains! At 6-00 245 you`re already a big boy! With proper diet and training you should pack on a minimum of 20lbs. Anastrozole/arimadex at .5mg every 3rd day is standard. Look for high estrogen signs, you may not need it. Good luck and I hope this helps.
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A19 User profile

First cycle ever you should run the test at 400mg/week. Split into two injections. Monday`s and Thursday`s. Run this for 12 weeks. Keep the arimadex for when you get side effects such as puffy or itchy nipples. You may even be more emotional than usual. If you need to take the arimadex, use 1mg every three days, for 2 to 3 weeks or until the sides go away. Best way to go about it, is to have bloodwork done to see exactly where your estrogen levels are. As for the PCT, since it`s your first cycle you don`t need the nolvadex. Just run the clomids. Start the PCT 2 weeks after your last injection. Run 100mg/day for 2 weeks, then 50mg/day for another two weeks. This will complete your PCT. Again, best course of action would be to have bloodwork done here as well to see where you`re at. You should watch “Rx Muscle Estrogen Management” on YouTube. It`s a short but very informative video. Hope that helps. Don`t forget to vote by clicking the up arrow by my name. Thanks.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert

Yes it does get very confusing. you are not alone. I normally recommend 400mg testE per week for a beginner. 6 foot brother lie you can go 500mg per week! Split the dose to 250mg per pin monday morning and Thursday evening. this will give you a better level blood through out the week. if you don`t like pinning you can also pin once a week but that`s 2ml in your ass!! 🙂 Have arimidex if you start to develop sides. take 0.5mg eod until sides subside. thanked nolva at 40mg ed if you start to feel sensitive around the nipples. that`s sign of gyno. Do a 12 weeks cycle since testE doesn`t kick in until 4-5 weeks in. But you going to love it when it does! On week 14 or in another word, 2 weeks after your last pin of testE take clomid 100/100/50/50 for 4 weeks. Remember you already add exogenous chemicals in your body so if you don`t need AI or anything else then don`t take them. This is the long game so you need to play it smart! Welcome to Mt. Olympic! 🙂 And don`t forget to vote.
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Gonna start my first Test cycle. I want to run 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks seeing how sides go.So I should buy 3 or 4 vials?Thanks!
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

If you are running 500mg a week then you`d need 1 vial for 5 weeks so to run 12 weeks you need 3 vials and you will have almost a whole vial left. My recommendation would be to buy 4 and just keep it for the next cycle or a cruise if your to that point. As far as sides go I wouldn`t “see how sides go” be proactive and take your ai from the start of your cycle so you don`t need to “see how sides go” you won`t have to worry about it.
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Seany Boy User profile

Thanks Mike, solid answer!
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crazy Dan User profile Expert

500mg a week for 10 weeks equal 5,000mg. 500mg a week for 12 weeks equal 6,000mg if test. Each vial of of testE250 is 250mg per ml. You have 10ml so a bottle has 2,500mg in it. So you need 2 bottles for 10 weeks and 3 bottles for 12 weeks plus some left over. Now you can never ever get the exact volume out nor does it come exactly tbe amount it said on the label. Keep in mind that every time your draw out the test you will lose 0.1ml in the tip of the syringe. Plus YOU can`t exact draw out that exact amount. For all those reasons you should always buy exact. Buy 3 bottles even if you are planning to do 10 weeks. Don`t forget to get your ancillaries.
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Seany Boy User profile

Thanks Dan, that`s really useful info. Much appreciated!
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Hey Seany Boy, how is this your first cycle if your profile was created in 2013?! Ha, that`s crazy. Maybe you ordered other compounds off here 7 years ago. Mike gave a good answer — 4 vials will cover you with 8-10 extra weeks. I disagree about taking ai`s without a significant need. Watch “Estrogen Management” on Rx Muscle youtube channel for more information. Ai`s are good to have on hand but I would go to nolva first for gyno. thx
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Seany Boy User profile

Thanks for that source I will definitely check it out =, much appreciated.
I occasionally grabbed Clen from this site and used it with caffine along with Var pills just for the cut.
I want to push past my limits and keep a good size now and I can`t achieve that without test after doing a lot of reading
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Pattycake User profile

You might want to also consider estrogen blockers it`s nice to have around my first cycle didn`t bother me till I ran my second just food for thought bro
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Seany Boy User profile

I`m gonna grab some Arimidex just in case of side effects. Thanks for your reply!
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so I bought a cycle of this (e-250)to try out. I just got started with approximately 1cc every 4 days but decided to stop after two shots because of some circumstances. That was 28 days ago. A week ago, (22 days after the first injection) I had my quad muscle get tight and swell in the injection sight pretty bad. Pain existed as well but swelling send down. Since then my testicals have had a dull pain and my lower backs been hurting too. Any insight would be appreciated into why I`m getting there`s effects. I have my suspicions but I`m not 100 percent sure. Thanks in advance!
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EQhead User profile Expert

The quads should only be used as an injection site if absolutely necessary. Try pinning glutes with a 25G 1.5″ needle and i think you`ll have a lot less PIP. The testicle pain could be from them producing less after the introduction of exogenous testosterone. LBP could be from a lot of things and may or may not be related. The higher concentration tests (350-400mg/ml) always give me PIP, but you`re on 250. Just pin the glutes next time, alternate sides and use alcohol wipes. It`s very important to follow sterile technique. Go get checked by your doctor as well. Be honest with them about injecting test in quad. Cheers
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Matt Beard User profile

I regularly pin in the quads as I find it the most convenient place and never had any problems. The delay from injection to pain is very strange also. I would get checked by dr`s to be on the safe side. I`m assuming the area was cleaned with alcohol wipe prior to injection, and the bung was cleaned same way prior to injection. Don`t know how experienced you are but getting into a good routine following the same steps everytime is helpful as can be a stressful experience first few injections.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

I agree with EQhead, the quads are tricky-even among the most experienced, obviously it can be done but a huge potential for adverse effects. You may have done everything right and just dinged a nerve or hit some other structure. I have found needle size is critical and can push most everything through a 25 gauge (i use a bigger one to draw). Also as eq also said at least an inch for most for proper IM inj. Finally sterile technique you may have compromised your gear, needle or something, but really stick with the glutes or delts (if under 1ml). Also, likely not the case but kidney infections often are disguised as lower back/Flank pain. You may have an infection that has moved to the kidneys or they are struggling to keep up. More likely just a back strain but keep an eye on it, see a doc if it continues or you run a fever. Dont just blow this off, probably nothing but may become serious if left unattended. I cannot count the guys that i have know over the years who have gone septic from improper technique, contaminated gear, reusing syringes or whatever. Take care of yourself, not worth compromising your health to that degree to look good with a shirt off or win a contest IMO.
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Can someone please help me out on how put my thyroid into high normal like being on Trt
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Frank User profile

You can use T3 or T4 if you really want to but me personally, I stay away from drugs that mess with thyroid regulation. Are your thyroid numbers low? Has this been verified by a doctor? If not, you should see a doctor and see what`s going on.
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Hi I`m going to start my pct next week I`m coming off my first cycle of test e 250 at 380mg per week for 12 weeks. I have an idea of the dosage for clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolvadex 40/40/20/20 but I was told this would be an aggressive pct for what I took. My question is what would be an adequate dosage for both clomid and nolvadex?
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Billy Ocean User profile

Not aggressive at all, ive used this same regimen many times. Your g2g
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evan johnson User profile Expert

That looks good to me man. Maybe just o 20mg nolva every day instead of 40 for the first 2 weeks but can`t complain much after that.
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Siggs User profile

Looks good. When you get to more aggressive cycles you might want to think about throwing in some HCG and start it a couple weeks before the end of the cycle. Good luck
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Thays should work just fine. Just make sure after pct you give your self enough time off before next cycle to give your body a small rest. Time on time off.
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Dan User profile Expert

It`s not aggressive. I would do that regimen. Once your natty shut down you want to fire it back up. So a normal pct is what you`ve describe. If you don`t have sides while on the 12 weeks cycke maybe cut the dose by half. An aggressive pct would be 1500iu hcg eod for 2 weeks then start pct right after.
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traianos123 User profile

I disagree, at only 380mg/week test he dont need both Nolva and Clomid, he need only one from the two. Nolva at 40/40/20/20 it will be perfect!
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novadesert007 User profile

I agree with other brother above. PTC is not aggressive at all. Cycle is fairly fair so you will bounce back quickly. No need HCG, but I love HCG
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traianos123 User profile

Yes, u are right, this will be an aggressive PCT, u should do only Nolvadex at 40/40/20/20 mg/day, so first 2 weeks 40mg/day and the second 2 weeks 20mg/day, each pill of Nolvadex is 20mg, so is very easy to dose. If u want to run only Clomid the right dosage is 100/100/50/50. If u want to use both Nolva and Clomid u should take Nolva 20mg/day for 4 weeks and Clomid 50mg/day for 4 weeks. Me after my cycles i run Nolva only and i have very good recovery, 40/40/20/20.
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Hi everyone I`m starting my pct next week from my first cycle of test e 250 at 380mg per week for 12 weeks And I just wanted some feed back on taking clomid and nolvadex. I have an idea of the dosage for clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolvadex 40/40/20/20. My concerns are do I split the dosages to half day/night. And do I take both clomid and nolvadex at the same time?
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Cyclone User profile Expert

Many bros will suggest taking both compounds to “double down” and be extra sure you have a complete recovery. Modern research strongly suggests that this is not necessary, and while it doesn`t do any harm, it affords no additional benefit, only extra costs and side effects. Do your research and collect opinion, then make your own decision. The half life of these compounds is such that you can take once a day, and splitting the daily dose is not necessary. Best of luck!
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Hiker001 User profile

I`m on PCT also. My dose at this time based off tons of reading and forums such as this.Currently Im doing 100/100/50/50 Clomid only. I do have Nolvadex but my dose was 400mg per week and everyone thought that would be sufficient, even some of the Pros on YT. So far so good and I can tell Im already getting the boys back in shape! Good luck buddy!
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Mic User profile Expert

You dosages are fine although some research suggests 100 Clomid is unnecessary, take them all at once bro that’s fine
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Hey Jag, no need to split the dosages of clomid or nolva. The half lives are more than sufficient to take once per day. I believe clomid and nolva have a half life of 5-7 days according to drugs dot c o m. You can take them anytime during the day. I would take them together after breakfast. Your PCT is aggressive considering your cycle. I would consider a less aggressive PCT as you probably don`t need that much clomid and nolva to bring you back. The safe thing to do is get blood work done after 4 weeks and see where you`re at. Thanks for the question
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Jag24 User profile

Hi what would be a more adequate dosage from the cycle I`m coming out from for clomid and nolvadex? Thanks
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

All up to you if it`s easier just do it all at once on the morning if your split it theres a chance you might forget a dose but either way will work and for blood work I personally would wait 6 weeks so everything levels out but if your deciding to jump into another cycle you can do it sooner to at least see where your at
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novadesert007 User profile

Yes you will start 2 weeks after your last pin. Take both at the same time. You can split into 2 times a day but that is just unnecessary. These are SARMS, It`s not like AAS where you need to take to get your blood stable.
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Have any of you gotten bad reactions from gp test?
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ThePony User profile

Yes many times and have steered away from it because of it.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Hey GP, I have used GP test linked above and didn`t have any bad reaction. I used 500mg/week split into 2 shots along with other compounds in the syringe. I use ventro glutes only with a 1.5″ 25g needle. Thanks for the question
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Kbird User profile

Yes, I`ve gotten terrible pip, swelling and fever from gp test cyp.
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john smith User profile

I used test cyp by gp a few years ago and pinned in my shoulders and they swelled the size of bread loads each pin and had a fever over 103 for weeks. I don`t use it anymore because of it.
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Dan User profile Expert

No way! I use GP all the time and never had any issue. I might question once or two about the potency but that could be me. Maybe you are allergic to the oil? Good luck.
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Simpleton User profile

A few times it is hit and miss but I`m always nervous starting a new cycle with it
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First timer here. I`m interested in starting Test to help increase muscle and workout intensity. I`m 32, 5`5 and weigh about 130lbs (roughly 10% BF). Being new, don`t really want to try too many things at once. Is it reasonable to start with 125mg of Test E 250 twice a week (250mg weekly)? Would Clomid and Nolvadex be ok as my only additional support drugs? Thank you in advance for your help!
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Stephen Jefferson User profile

If you were doing trt then yes, but you want to run a 12 week cycle so for that I recommend you run 500 mgs per week
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Will User profile Expert

That`s actually a pretty good starting plan. 300mg is usually where ice always recommended starting but 250mg is above you`re normal testosterone range, so should yield good results. One thing to make sure because starting AAS is that you`ve built a good base naturally. I know 5`5 can handle a lower bodyweight but 130lbs sounds really small. You might want to work on building another 20lbs of lean muscle mass before starting steroids. You`ll get much better results with a bigger base. Clomid and Nolvadex are good for a PCT.
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Taylor User profile

Like mentioned above running a 12 week cycle at 500mg is perfect for a first time user. Two injections per week each being 250mg is a solid cycle. Adding PCT would be recommended just remember to NOT start it for 14 days after your last injection as the testosterone you`re using have a longer lasting ester (Cypionate, Enthanate) which takes more time for it to kick in and work but will also stay in your system for longer then an everyday injection ester like a propionate.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert

Great plan but as most will say on here, I would recommend focusing on bringing your size up naturally. Please consider this. Clomid would be all you need for PCT, Nolva really won`t be necessary is this situation. You will do whatever you want to do, but I would hold off for a while. Good luck
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Most will say 500mg per weeks. But I believe in low dosages so yes 250mg per week split will give you gains and mostly lean gains with less water retention . Then in the future you have plenty of room to increase the dosage so try 250mg per week 10 weeks and see how you do. Keep track of gains and food
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Dan User profile Expert

I would say yes 250mg a week is good for first cycle. 400mg would be a better but not much to start. Clomid for pct. Nolva for pct and possible gyno. Get arimidex for estrogen sides. 12 weeks cycle.
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Ok, so stuff is coming in 2 shipments shipment 1 has one brand of test. The other has another brand plus nolva, hcg and arimidex. Shipment 1 will be at my door like tomorrow of just test. Would I be fine at like 250mg per week until arimidex arrives and bump to 500mg?
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Dylan User profile

It takes test a couple of weeks to kick in anyways I would say go for it. On the On the other hand what if something is stuck in customs or has shipping issues and it doubles the time? You would be good to start it now but like I said If shipping issues happen you may have to pay more for a domestic that you should`ve waited for.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

If your concerned about your other products being late or being seized a good rule of thumb is to not start a cycle until you have every last piece of it together at once
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Cyclone User profile Expert

Yes, but you do run the small risk of your other package being lost or delivered to another address.
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Big Dogg User profile

You`d be fine for a few weeks at 500mg/week before you would POSSIBLY need any AI. I wouldn`t start unless the other pack has cleared your countries customs though.
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Simonak User profile

If you`re gonna be receiving your package within the next week or 2 you should be fine at least in my experience it takes a little time for large amounts of test to build-up . If you`re just looking at a week or 2 you should be fine.
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Bswole User profile

Yes u can atart your test at 500 if u want. Test takes a long time to turn into estrogen. Don`t worry u will be fine your other shipment will be there soon. .
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Ok, I have a daily countdown next to my order on the number of business days. How accurate is this? It counts down every business day. With the shipping being absolutely horrid as late I was just wondering how accurate it was. It started at 21 days and now is at 15 days.
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Swoleville User profile Expert

For me the count down is just a reminder if its been 30 days yet and if I haven`t received my order to contact 24roids. The bigger issue is time spent in customs. That`s the real concern
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JMann User profile

Yeah it’s just an estimate of when you will receive your order. Could be sooner or a little later.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

It`s what I refer to as a WAG;Wild Ass Guess. It`s purely a tempkate estimate. Customs is where I`ve seen the most variation. I`ve had customs take almost a week on some products while taking only hours on others. Use it as a rough guide, not a rule. That said, most of my products beat the estimated time on the early side.
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Jd D User profile

Mine usually arrives before the countdown gets to zero
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Dylan User profile

I have always received my orders when it shows 6 to 14 business days left so I have never even seen it get close to the amount of days they say I think they overestimate
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Bswole User profile

Dont worry bro this is normal last time my order was in my mailbox 9 days after it shipped. Sometimes it was longer but never over the 21 days good luck.
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Is anyone besides myself a little hesitant on making a purchase knowing the raw material comes from China and the corona virus being so contagious?
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Michael User profile

Pretty sure the virus doesn`t live long enough to even make it alive through the mail. So nope, not nervous. I`m more nervous that the control of it could lead to me package being seized or something like that.
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Big B User profile

I Thought About It. But From What I Have Read It Seems Extremely Unlikely. So I Ordered My Gear.
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nickname_311 User profile

Me too, my buddy ordered and the postman looked like something you would find off of zombieland. Jk you`ll be fine.
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Branko User profile

I wouldn`t worry too much about it. Not only is there a very low survival rate of the virus itself, but pharma grade materials usually have higher safety and cleanliness protocols .
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Kdub7 User profile

China has had weird diseases like SARS for years. The good think about these long shipping times is the longest they believe it last on surfaces is 9 days. Just pray you shipment take a month to be safe.
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Winning13 User profile

As long as the product is in stock you shouldn`t have any issue with the order being fulfilled and shipped out to you. If the products are out of stock then there will be an issue with getting the product back in stock because the raw materials come from China and there might be a slow up on that. But if they`re in stock go ahead and order and they should ship as normal. Good luck
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Hi does gyno only happen around or close to the nipple area? Because I feel like I might have a small lump forming 3 inches above the nipple. My nipples are not sore or puffy at all. But I also feel like it might be from acne because I got some small pimples near my forearms.
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nickname_311 User profile

Get some arimidex. Get that taken care of.
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novadesert007 User profile

I personally never had gyno since I take AI. But I have seen my buddy had it, small lump right on side of nip like the nip color side will have it. Do you take AI? let us know. Femera is what you need for early stage of Gyno after that surgery is what you will have to do
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nickname_88 User profile

As anyone will yell you, we hope you have some AI on hand… arimidex or aromasin.. you didn`t mention if ya did but if so (hope so) start taking .5mg of either or eod for now at least.. get on that right away.. I have not suffered from sides on my cycles except acne n insomnia on certain compound but I take an ai , .5 maybe twice a week or sometimes once a week just to keep estrogen under control but not to suppressed… but sounds like you should get a handle on that just to be safe..
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TLT User profile

I would not chance it and start your AI in the case it may be Gyno.
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FatDadstack User profile

Bro your fine your probably just lil fat and paranoid. Trust me when I say you`d know it would be a hard lump and your man tittys would be in pain. Get some letrozole
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nickname_458 User profile

Your nips will start getting a little tender and puffy, for me it typically feels like a bb directly under my nipple and can range in soreness which can sometimes be downrite painful. Get you some arimidex and Nolvadex to be safe. Once it`s there, it`s there.
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When is GP coming back???
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Pookie User profile

Open a ticket with 24roids customer service and ask the question. Shipping from China has put a damper on our ordering
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nickname_88 User profile

Over and over and over these questions are asked here… No one here can tell you this… I would say contact 24roids thru live support and ask them but I have read from others that even they are not sure when they will be stocked up.. So we can`t tell ya that here..
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BigOlRed User profile

Hopefully soon I`ve been waiting on my order to ship for 2 months
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.50 caliber User profile

Only God knows until then go with aaster
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nickname_885 User profile

Even 24roids customervservice is not sure now. Go with Aaster. They ship from Europe very fast and their products are of extremely good quality.
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RJB16 User profile

Have to ask 24roids no one else will have answer…. But I will also be waiting…
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Thank you for the help on my last question i`m 27 what would you recommend for dosage on the arimidex as well as dosage for nolvadex clomid and HCG? i will be running for cycle for 10 weeks how long after should i begin my PCT and how often should i be taking my three PCT?
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Stephen Jefferson User profile

With clomid start at 50 and taper down… Nova 40 taper down… HCG you should have been taking it while on cycle, not all the way through but maybe at the half way Mark at 5000 per wk
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Dan User profile Expert

Always have AI ready if needed. Pct starts 2 weeks after last pin if you are pinning enanthate or cypionate. Take both Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20mg per day for 4 weeks. No hcg is needed. If you were planning to take hcg for pct you do it 2 weeks before you start your pct. there are many schools of thoughts on what a broder should take while on pct. read more about it but most wil only take Clomid and Nolva. Good luck.
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Dromeo User profile

It`s good to have arimadex I`m hand. Watch “Rxmuscle estrogen management” on YouTube before you decide to take it. Short but very informative video. PCT should start two weeks after your last pin. Like Dan said above I`d run the clomids at 100/100/50/50 and the nolvadex at 40/40/20/20.
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Mary Wagner User profile

.5 on arimidex other really depends on your experience cycling.
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MegaCycle User profile

Exactly what others said for PCT. for AI, don`t take it until you need to. It will allow you to learn your sides. Some people don`t need it on 500mg/week of test, so do. But learn your sides because knowing them will be useful in the future
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Just as stated by Google and everyone else is the way to do it
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Is using nolvadex as a pct by itself enough if your running 750 mg of the test E a week and what do you recommend for an AI
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BigOlRed User profile

I would run that for two to four weeks and then clomiphene for 2 to 4 weeks maybe even throw in 5mg caber twice a week as well just for precaution. I like to overdo PCT rather than underdue myself personally
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When will geneza restock? Been waiting on the GP enanthate 250 for almost 2 weeks now and still says comming soon. When is soon???
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Dan User profile Expert

That`s like the same 20th questions I seen in a week! I am waiting for Dragon myself. I just place an order with Aaster cus I couldn`t wait. Place a ticket with 24roids That are the only peeps that knows. None of us here can help. Good luck buddy!
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Hey Chris Rock, generally the QA section has not been able to answer these types of availability questions. You can try asking 24roids but they haven`t given definitive answers in the past. I hope someone can answer it but I`ve never seen someone chime in with a date. So… I`m going to give you a guess. Maybe others can too and we`ll see who`s the closest. I`m going to say it will restock on February 23rd. There are plenty of other options for test E I think. Thanks for the question
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Drew User profile

No one will be able to give you an answer on here my friend your best bet will be to open a ticket with 24roids and ask they directly.
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Papi1266 User profile

Nobody knows brother, I am sure it has to do with all the stuff going on in China right now, it`s making it hard to get products moving to other places. I suggest using an European company right now, till things calm down over there
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Big Dogg User profile

Soon may not be soon. Just order another lab. Everything is messed up with China and the coronavirus. It`s not just shipping. Most raws are made in China. A lot of labs cant restock so aren`t selling. I`ve seen some small guys shut down completely between the new law this year and the coronavirus. Alpha is great. Aaster, I`ve heard is great. Pick one and order or you may be waiting awhile.
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Dromeo User profile

We`re all in the same boat brother. I`m just hoping that when they are back in stock this deal is still going on. Some say that this Corona Virus is the cause of these delays. But no one knows for sure.
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Hi I`m still on my first cycle and I`m on week 5 doing 390mg of test e per week. And I still have not experienced any gyno problems in the course of the 5 weeks. My question is if I should be fine for the course of the cycle. And start armidex until I run into gyno problems.
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ThePony User profile

you`re fine at that dose and if you haven`t experienced anything. I wouldn`t take an ai, but nolvadex is a great option to prevent bi song of estrogen To your chest.
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Chris86 User profile

I never got gyno symptoms or tissue development until I used anadrol, super drop and Tren. You`ll be fine but run nolvadex as suggested if worried.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert

If you don`t need the AI at that dose of test then don`t take it. Keep it on hand for when you run a 500mg/week test cycle. If you get sore nips or bloating then take it
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EDubz User profile

Only use it if and when needed, at that dose you may not need an ai at all I don`t, but everyone is different when it comes to this.
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Michael User profile

You`re fine, but could the next week or two but unlikely, use nolvadex at 20mg a week if worried
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Johnny Longsockz User profile

Your at a pretty low dose for gyno symptoms. I wouldn`t worry too much. Use ai only when needed
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I`m very confused….I haven`t experienced morning wood AT ALL since highschool, I`m 27 and have done 2 cycles of testosterone, im currently on my 3rd Test/Tbol cycle. The last 2 cycles and this one, for the first week, and ONLY the first week of being on cycle (meaning 2 pins of 250mg 500 total) I have morning wood for at least 5-7 days…in fact I will wake up with it during the night. But after the first week…..gone..nothing… no morning wood…no waking up in the night with it…it makes no sense….if my levels are high I should still be getting it? before starting the cycle my test was 440 ng/dl tested after 6 months gear free. Any ideas about what the hell is going on would be greatly appreciated
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No boner User profile Expert

Get blood work done. Your prolactin could be high. Are you using an a I. Throw in some caber 1/2 mg 2xs per week
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Big Dogg User profile

Get a blood test amd see what the hell is going on. No one here can tell you what is going on in your body. I can tell you that you probably have high estrogen or low estrogen if your taking too much AI. Labsmd. Com for less than $100 you can order your own test for testosterone and estrogen. Without that anything is a guess.
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FatDadstack User profile

It`s normal to have and not have I would increase your AI or bump it up to 750wk 3 pinns a wk.
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Pookie User profile

What else are you taking? Low Estrogen will cause no boner situations. It is best to get your hormones checked and yes at 500 mgs you should be having no problems with that area
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Michael Vasquez User profile

I agree with the others get blood work done it`s the only way to know what is exactly going on then from there you can go on a proper try if needed.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Well it could be to much estrogen or not enough or something else you could always get a trial pack of viagra and cialis tonsee if that helps
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I`m starting a beginner`s cycle of Winstrol and Test E on low doses for both. Since I`m new to gear, I don`t want to start them both simultaneously. I would rather start one, see how my body reacts, and then add the other into the cycle if I`m feeling good. Should I start with winstrol and then add Test E to the mix a couple weeks after, or should I start with Test E and then backload with Winny after a few weeks on test?
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John Rambo User profile

I`m going to assume this is your first cycle. You should run a complete cycle test only. See how your body responds to a full 10 to 12 weeks. Most even suggest running test only for second cycle as well. Third cycle you could add winny at the end for 5 weeks tops. It`s bad on the liver so you don`t want to run that for your entire cycle. Keep asking questions bud. You`re in the right place
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S-C-J User profile

The problem with this strategy is that if you start the winstrol alone, it will suppress your natural testosterone production, causing you to feel like shite after a few weeks. Keep in mind that every compound will take a certain time to kick in anyway, so your not really going to know what is causing you to feel what, what is giviing you side effect, etc. A better plan would be to start the test E, run for 2 months, then stack the winstrol on the last 4-6 weeks of your cycle to polish up your gains.
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EDubz User profile

I wouldnt start with winny without the test. Start the test 1st, then if you feel good and want to add the winny ise it at the end of your cycle. Good luck
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gear hair no User profile

The golden rule is test must be ran with everything… You can`t run anything and not have a base of test… Now what you can do is start with test. By itself and then towards the end of the cycle the last few weeks add in. The Winstrol
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Wolverine User profile

Always run Testosterone only for your first and even second cycle. You need to see how your body reacts to a 10-12 week cycle. You will get incredible results with Test alone if this is your first cycle. Run 300-400 mg a week of test E or C., go heavy, and get the necessary quality food and sleep to grow. AAS are great to break plateaus, and go to the next level, but I can tell you after 34 years of lifting and many AAS cycles, how hard you train off of them and how much good dieting and sleep you get determines what quality muscle you keep. Be sure to get everything you need for PCT, get your blood work done at the end of the cycle, and watch your hemacort levels, and keep reading on here, there are some very experienced people on this website. Best of Luck and save the Winny V for later cycle.
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John User profile

Winny is great to polish your look. Back load the last 4-5 weeks at 50mg
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What would happen in the event of a recall? How would we even know that a batch was contaminated or bad? Is this just a risk we have to take?
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Ya i dont see anything being recalled it`s a risk but never heard of it having before
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Recall User profile

These are underground pharmacies. They aren`t putting out a recall. If you get such a notification, and respond you might as well go to your local police station and turn in your gear.
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Kimchi User profile

How does one contaminate a batch? By a sneeze, a cough, a body hair, ambient air, foul carrier oil or other? If you don`t trust your UG supplier then your only choice is to make your own. It`s quite easy though few do.
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ThePony User profile

No underground lab is goinfb extend a recall. The batches are made in sizable fashion but this isn`t Johnson and Johnson or pzier. If you get something bad, Ross it and move on.
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I order some of this test. I injected half a bottle and didn`t inject the other half. I am now wanting to get back on it but the color is no longer light yellow it is dark yellow. Has it gone bad? It doesn`t expire until 5/2020. I am a bit worried due to the color. Can anyone help me out with this question regarding is it still safe to use?
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Johnny Longsockz User profile

I`ve used some out of a bottle and finished it up a couple months later. You didn`t say how long its been sitting but you should be good
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nickname_464 User profile

I`ve personally used GP test and other products that have sat for months and still used them without any problems. I would suspect the color is from a change in temperature, nothing to worry about. Best of luck mate.
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Dan User profile Expert

Color change could be oxidation/reduction of the natural oil. It could contain trace of mineral too. But in short it is perfectly safe!
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Nickname_2 User profile

When i got this product is was clear then light yellow it`s just the carrier oil it;s fine to use it changes from diff batch just use it bro no problems with it
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Maybe User profile

it should be good, the only thing you should be concerned about is if it is cloudy or crystallized. If bacteria gets in there it can grow. Try warming it up in a pot with simmering water. See if it clears o it and mixes. I`ve used vials years old that were cloudy and never had issues.
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Nathan Co User profile

That is just oxidation. If you are still worried, inject just a small amount and wait a few days to see if you have a reaction, if not, good to go.
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Hi quick question I injected testosterone into my glute and as I pulled out the needle I had a few drops of blood come out the injection site. I would like to know if any of the testosterone was wasted after this kind of situation happens.
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EDubz User profile

That happens all the time to me what I do is have my alcohol pad ready and as soon as I pull it out put the alcohol pad over it and hold pressure for about 20 seconds until it stops bleeding a little bit of oil may come out but not much not anything to worry about
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nickname_88 User profile

You`re good bud.. it can happen a lot then next few pins it won`t happen at all.. all depends on how pro you become at pinning lol or should I say how comfortable you become with being at ease and easy during the process.. make sure you`re as deep as the needle allows you to go in, pin slow and let the needle in for 10 to 20 seconds then pull out slow.. you may see small blood you may not.. you may have no blood but see a little oil.. you may not even see anything at all and it`s a perfect pin.. it`s all part of the process but being comfortable in the process is very big.. so a little blood, little oil even if that is lost, no there is no issue and you`ve gotten most of everything you need from your shot.. draw a tad extra for peace of mind if you want.. won`t make much a difference..
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Michael User profile

You probably lost a few drops but nothing to worry about. Same thing happened to me the other day on my delt… I pulled it out, few drops of blood, looked back a minute later and I had some oil coming down my arm so I just apply pressure for a minute and good to go.
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Big E User profile

This happens to me from time to time. Nothing to worry about though whatever you lost it was very little. When you inject next time keep the needle in for a good 15 seconds or so and keep a sterile alcohol swab handy and as soon as you pull the pin out apply to swab to the injection site and apply pressure for at least 30 seconds. Then massage the area to work the oil into the muscle. Be careful when pulling the pin out also if you happen to pull the pin out at an angle instead of straight out it can cause this problem as well.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert

No worries it happens sometimes. The oil coming out would be minuscule.
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Matt Beard User profile

I use a 1.5″ in the quad and do it very slowly and leave needle in for about 20-30 secs and so far no blood or oil at all. Mind you it`s only been 8 injections. My thinking is as long as you inject slowly to give it time to disperse into the muscle and go in deep you should be good.
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Do I need to worry about drug tests from work while injecting?
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MegaCycle User profile

No. Steroids don`t show up in urine testing, only in blood tests for the most part and it`s very expensive to test for steroids. You are fine
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John User profile

No don`t sweat it. They won`t test for Gear. Only narcartics unless you`re a pro athlete of some kind and could be considered cheating with PEDS
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Big E User profile

There`s nothing to worry about. The drug tests that employers administer are only for marijuana the majority of the time. The only ones who I believe could probably be tested for steroids would be law enforcement.
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Lorddrip User profile

I have no clue what you do for work but gear can come up as false positives it has happened to me in the past good luck
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Papi1266 User profile

You dont need to worry the test is too expensive so most employers do not use it, basic will not pick it up
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Cam514 User profile

Not through urine testing. Only blood tests. I was worried myself about it starting out.
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what carrier oil does Geneza use? I heard Pure MCT oil organic is this true ?
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traianos123 User profile

I am not sure 100% but from all that i know they use MCT oil, is good this carrier oil, i think they still use it.
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Oil User profile

No, cottonseed oil, I believe from what I`ve ordered and received.
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Kimchi User profile

I`ve heard cottonseed though must UGLs use grapeseed now. Someone needs to post some lab test results and not bro science.
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Barry Gibson User profile

Mind you ugl labs seldom utilize one carrier oil as they aren`t pharmaceutical grade, and depending on product availability and cost the factoring in on what oil to use is based.
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MegaCycle User profile

They used cottonseed oil in the past. Not sure if they have changed though I doubt it.
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Taylor User profile

To my knowledge they use cotton seed, if you look up certain keywords I remember this question being asked before maybe 1-2 years ago, see what they have to say too.
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Ok guys, next question I have would be what is your suggestion for TRT? Is doing that ok instead of a full PCT program?
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Dromeo User profile

No need for PCT of running TRT Doses. On the low end some people run 75-100mg of test weekly. On the high end which is what I do, anywhere from 175-250mg weekly. Running HCG would also be good for you.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

Trt is for life so if your ready to make a life time commentment then theres that I would start low end though I`d your gonna be blasting like 125mg a week but in between cycles still need to recover from other compounds so you still need time off from other compounds.
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Mr.Foo User profile

First get tested. Then run HCG at 500iu 3X per week and see how you feel. Probably great, if not then start TRT based on your lab results, proper Magnesium and a lack of response to HCG.
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BigOlRed User profile

either way some people prefer to just cruise and trt others like to do PCT that`s just if you want to shut down your natural production or not because if you stay on trt your body will not no longer make it if you go through PCT will make your body normal again
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Acfit User profile

If you`re willing to inject yourself once or twice a week with test for life, by all means go ahead. I`ve been on self prescribed TRT for about 1year and a half at 150-200mg a week split into 2 shots a week. I was never really good at doing PCT because I`m not really prone to sides which is lucky for me. But I feel good with my TRT. I stay pretty lean year around, so I use a 1/2in insulin needle in the delt or quad. When I blast, which I don`t really consider a blast, since I don`t do a high volume of mg`s, I keep my TRT dose the same and just add another anabolic. See how you feel at 150mg a week and like I said, if you don`t mind doing it for the rest of your life, you`re good to go without needing PCT. Good luck!
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nickname_88 User profile

I may have missed seeing it somewhere but your age is a big factor.. I wouldn`t suggest to any young man to start cruising but if you`re 40 or over and are tired of PCT and the ups and downs, well I can tell you first hand the cruise (trt) for life feels good… my moods, health, strength and more continue to stay up for me unlike when I was coming off and doing PCT… Natural levels diminish anyways at my age which is 43 so it makes sense for me and I`m happy I`ve chosen this route.. and for 24roids of course lol It will make a big difference for ya or any man 40 n over and WILLING to make this big change or take this BIG step for rest of life basically … definitely explore more, talk to others about it and take time to see if right for you.. it basically keeps your youth or at least helps with the feeling of… take care.
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I just read taking prop and Test E is contraindicated on Watsons official website, what if I did Test E 250 Mon and Thursday, Test P M/W/F 100mg. OR could I just do test E 250 and Test P 100 all on M/Th only plan on running test P for 5-6 weeks max. Open to harsh critique lol
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JMann User profile

They would not contradict each other, but I would take one or the other. Unless your kickstarting a cycle, then you could start with the prop for four or five weeks until the longer ester ( Test E) starts working. Be safe take care.
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Test User profile

Test is, test, is test! There`s no reason to do so much. Pick an Easter, know it`s half life, and inject the disarmed dose at a schedule to maintain a balanced hormone level! Don`t make it so complicated.
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Kimchi User profile

Yes, Test is test and long or short ester change does not affect me in the slightest. Suspension has a nice preworkout kick.
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PeteyGunz User profile

Think of it this way they wont clash with each other, because if you look at other blends such as Sustanon its really just a mix of lomger and shorter esters , i would just get sust personally . Happy Gaining!
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Nickname_633 User profile

Yea you can run both, but why 4-5 weeks ? test e will take at least a month if i was running it that long id just do test p no difference in using both test e & p i am doing this right now with cyp and prop great results so take everyone`s advice don`t pay more attention to the website
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EDubz User profile

Theres really no point of stacking them together. Iys just prop has a shorter half life so you would want to inject every other day for stable blood. You can ise prop in the beginning so it kicks in faster.
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Hi everyone I`m panning on starting my first cycle soon and I would like some feedback before I start. So I`m currently planning on taking 300mg of test enanth per week for 13 weeks then start on my pct. So my question is how much arimidex should I take while on cycle and when I start my pct how many mg should I start off with for clomid and nolvadex. Also should I liver support supplements for this cycle.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

It`s hard to guess how much you`ll need as it varies for everyone. Some take it everyday, some every other day, some even less. I would order enough to take half every day and if you use less, keep for next cycle.
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Ryan User profile

As far as an AI a half of a arimidex pill is reccomended but you are on a kinda low/med dosage so a half every other would be good (.5mg), and for pct 100/100/50/50 for clomid and 40/40/20/20 for nolva. (100 ever day for 2 wekks then 50, 40 every day for 2 weeks then 20
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novadesert007 User profile

Ryan is right! Just follow what he said. How do you feel on 300? It is kind of low but if you comfortable go for it. Test E won`t really kick in after 2-3 week and also depends on body metabolism. You gonna gain a lot on your first cycle. Grab some HCG as well for faster recovery and less shrink of balls Gl and have fun
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Michael User profile

300 is a decent amount but a tad on the low side. Most would go 400-500. That being said at 300 you may not get sides. I would wait and see if your nipples get any unusual sensation. If they don`t you are in the clear, if they do start .25 arimadex every other day. If you are still feeling a little off bump it up to .5 . That should be plenty but you could go up to 1mg eod but you shouldn`t have to and you do t want to do too much because you`ll get negative side of bottoming your estrogen if you go too high.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Adex .5 mg EOD once estro sides start,they prob won`t start if first cycle,clomid 50mg split a day Nolva 20 2x a day ,pretty standard pct
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Nathan Co User profile

I wouldn`t take any AI for the first 3-4 week then start with .5 mg a week and see how that goes. If you crash you E2, your cycle will suck. On 300mg I wouldn`t even need an AI. If I were to take .5mg every other day, I would be a hurting fucking unit! If you get sides, like itchy sore nipples, add it in at .5mg E3D until it`s gone and then go back to .5mg a week until you find you dosage. Easier to bring E2 down than come out of a crash! Trust me! It can take weeks!
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Hey guys, will be going on my 4th cycle. The first was test prop 100mg/eod & winstrol for 8wks. The next couple were test cyp at 500mg/wk for 10wks with oral kickstarts. 1 with tbol the other with dbol and added NPP in the last one. My question is, how many cycles do you need under your belt before you up the test? And when I do since it`s dosed at 250mg/ml should I jump to 750 or somewhere between 500-750? Thanks in advance
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Ronald Bobby User profile

I would always keep it low as possible you can always go up with it. I personally just run a couple cycles then up it 100mg at a time. 20mg could bump your test levels up 100 points
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EDubz User profile

I would go to 750, you seem like your doing it right, keep the test as low as possible, for as long as possible, as long as your still getting results, then there`s no need to increase the test. Depends also on your goals, if you want to kick it up a notch.. I would go to 750 tho for the next cycle. Good luck
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Big Dogg User profile

What is your goal that you want to up the test? 750 is a lot. I`ve only run that once and I`ve never done it again since. Unless you`re competing (strength or bodybuilding) I dont really see the point. If you do just go to 600. Stack the test with other compounds, dial in your diet and train like a monster to reach your goals.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

The higher the test the more of it converts to estrogen try some other compounds and see what you like. Maybe throw in deca at 400mgs a week keep test at 500. Or eq at 600. Or tren at 300mg
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Um None,you go 1000mg a week out the gate but most people try to keep the dose mid to lowest as possible because o ce you go high you won`t ever want to go low again
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Barry Gibson User profile

750mg is fine, might wanna keep test low and increase accordingly though.
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I`m on my 2nd cycle of Test E and Deca. Dosage 500 test to 250 deca every 5th day. Is this too much? I`ve had some great gains with this so far without sides taking 1mg Armidex on injection day (pills are hard to half) am I taking too much? After everything I`ve read, seems this dose may be high.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

This is fine if your gaining with no sides then why change if? Keep doses low if gains are solid once you go high doses you have to keep going higher every cycle
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Drew User profile

This dose is not that high I Normally run the deca at 500mgs a week and test at 500mgs a week. But if your getting good gains with what your taking now I don`t see any reason to up it.
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nickname_832 User profile

This is a very smart cycle for a beginner. You are gaining muscle with no side effects I would say your good to go. Good job on the gains bro
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Will User profile Expert

No, that`s not too much at all! If you`re getting results, stay on this dose until they stall. Most would actually call those doses low/mild. If you were on 750-1g, then we`d be talking about being too high. And your Arimidex sounds just right if you`re not seeing any estrogenic sides. Keep as you`re doing. If aides arise, then you`ll want to increase your AI frequency.
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nickname_458 User profile

It all depends on your goals and experience with aas. If your having to ask ask this question then it mite mite be excessive, that’s a pretty decent dose. If your fairly new to aas then I would start lower and work up to multiple compounds and higher mg’s.
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RJB16 User profile

You are on the right track and that is a good dose… Maybe pin 2x per week over every 5 days to keep levels more stable..
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Hey guys. Need a little input. Had blood work done several months ago and my total test was 154 (51yrs. old). I got this Test E and put myself on TRT. I`m running 250 a week (split into 2 doses). 50 mg proviron a day (25am / 25pm). 1mg anastrozole a week (.5 on injection days). 2iu HGH 5 days a week. Everything is going pretty good except my nipples are just slightly sore and I feel a little bloated. My labido isn`t great. Had blood work done a few days ago (almost exactly 8 weeks after 1st injection). Got results this morning. Total test is 1500. Free test is 48. Estridol is 42. Seems like I`ve read you want estrogen to be 20 – 30. I`m thinking about going up on anastrozole to .5mg M-W-F. Could an estrogen level of 42 cause the minor sides I`m having? Should the tweak in AI I`m thinking about fix that? Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

It would not hurt you 2 take arimidex point five every two days. I think that might help you out give it a try or a week or two see how your body reacts.
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nickname_957 User profile

I would start at .5 Every 2 or 3 days and go from and adjust from there. you have to find what work best for you by experimenting with things like that
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

begin an AI and nolvadex. Anyone who tells you that you need blood work to determine if you start an AI or SERM is wrong. When someone becomes symptomatic is the only sure way to know if you need an AI point blank. Gyno is forever and the hallmark is sore nipples. When my nipples ache i begin nolvadex 20mg immediately this will begin to provide you protection within 24 hours. An AI like arimidex will take a little longer, sometimes as long as a week to bring down your estrogen. It does so geometrically and fractionally so you will never destroy all your estrogen like some of the suicide inhibitors, I feel no need for these. I run nolva for 2or 3 weeks and arimidex 0.5 mg every third day. I have been doing this for decades it is safe an effective and my nipples start to become less tender in days. Also bloat and gyno go hand and hand as the are both cause by the same thing, bloat is hard for me to see in a mirror so another good reason to run the arim. I have done this for decades and have zero gyno. the surgery is expensive and leaves scars although if you know how you can almost always get insurance to pay as there is a small but real link between gyno and breast cancer even in men so not for cosmetic reasons only. hope this helps
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Mr.smith User profile

Any sensation in the nips needs to be aced on immediately. If you have the arimadex already then upnthe does on that. .25-.5 eod. Talk to your dr and see what he or she says but I would definitely take my own action right away.
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trex User profile

Ha talk to your dr good one. tell your doc that you are taking steroids and your nipples hurt. He will tell you to stop most dr are very uninformed when it comes to this. listen to Dr Scott, I do almost the exact same thing and I have been running gear for 8 years. Labs are important but not for this everyone is different and it is not always about just the levels the ratio of those levels too
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Sherwin User profile

You solution of increasing your AI sounds reasonable, and yes high estrogen is a likely cause of your symptoms. You likely one of the unfortunate individuals who`s body tends to convert a lot of excess test to estrogen, sorry brother!
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How do you best store this? Refrigerated or room temperature?
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Skuchie User profile

This can be stored at room temperature, there is no need to refrigerate.
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YD1 User profile

Whats up bud. The best way to store Test and other AAS is room temperature. Keep it in a nice dark area like in a box, med bag or even gun case. Do not refrigerate because it can start crystallizing. Good luck bud.
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Will User profile Expert

Room temperature is perfectly fine
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seoulmates User profile

Room Temp Brother. Some people even warm it up before injecting by running warm water over the bottle.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert

Room Temp is the way to go. I keep all of mine in a box in my bathroom cabinets. Like YD1 said, DO NOT REFRIGERATE, it will ruin the product. Good luck
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John User profile

Do not refrigerate. Room temp dry dark place like a closet or safe
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If I do 1 cc a week of test E how many mg is that a week ??
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Adam22 User profile

That would be 250 mg per week since its 250mg per cc. I wouldnt go any higher than 300 mg for your first cycle witch im assuming this is your first cycle. Use a 23-18 guage needle to draw the oil into the syringe and then switch to a 25-23 guage 1″ to inject. Upper outer glutes are recommended for beginners and watch videos on how to properly inject this way you know the correct technique to avoid hitting sciatic nerve. Make sure you have some arimidex on hand as well for eatrogen side effects. Good luck
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Matthew User profile

One cc is the same as one mL. So 1mL of a 250mg/mL is 250mg. I suggest you pin 0.5mL a pin. Pin twice a week to keep blood level even.
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nickname_802 User profile

250mg/1cc. Each vial will come with 10cc or ten doses of 250mg. Arimidex is a good AI. If you have issues with estrogen I would suggest letrozole. Works wonders and I only have to take 1/2 pill every week. Everyone`s body responds differently. If you feel that 300mg is too small of a dose, stick 250 twice a week. No need to go over 500 week.
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EDubz User profile

1cc of test E is usually 250mg. Usually the vials are 250mg/ per ML . so for every 1ml you inject your getting 250mg. If it`s your first cycle which it seems like it is I wouldn`t go higher than 500 mg. A week so that would be one ML twice a week like Monday and Thursday for example, make sure you have a pct set up, and on hand, an an anti estrogen like arimidex for estrogen related side effects. Good luck
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novadesert007 User profile

1cc is 250mg a week. This dose is for cruising. If you want to bump it up to 500 it is ideal for test only cycle or base for any other stacks. You`ll need AI and PCT on hand before starting the cycle. Just in case shipping takes longer or taken in by custom
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Alphabetsoup User profile

Everyone is wrong. It’s 250mg less the weight of the eshter
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Is Geneza test e usually clear ??
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Mid life Rejuvenator User profile

Always clear. Never Cloudy. Tint will be none to slightly yellow depending on the oil. Got 2 of these 3 weeks ago they were lighter in color. Been feeling great on it!
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barclord User profile

Yes, that is to be expected. Almost no tint to the oil.
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John Rambo User profile

I have gotten it with a slight yellow tint
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

Just looked at a vial and yeah it’s about colorless, maybe the slightest tinge of yellow/straw. From what I’ve noticed some companies are clear and others have a color. Tren always has a color in my experience for example. EQ is always clear.
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nickname_537 User profile

All testosterone is clear. Only winny and test suspension is cloudy from their suspended crystals.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

The test from Geneza that I have used is always clear
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For the guys on trt. Do any of you just get your test from 24roids over going to the doctor? Thinking i can get trt on my own without going to a doctor if i get my bloodwork done to verify everything is good. Rather than spend the extra cash if i can do it easily by myself
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K.D.T User profile

Sometimes it`s hard trying to get trt from the Dr some dr won`t perscribe it if your test is even slightly above low levels even if you have symptoms of low t and some Dr do no pressure adiquit dose most of the time its better to get it from a Dr but sometimes you will never if buying your self as ling as tour well informed in what your doing
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Joe User profile Expert

You should do that. Test is one of the easiest compound to produce. There is absolutely no reason to pay premium for pharma grade. I recommend dragon pharma or geneza. If you still want pharma grade there are few options from India and middle east on the site that work just as good.
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Fit_mom User profile

Going to a dr proved to be a pain in the ass for my husband. He had his test checked and the dr said he was in the range but low. Wouldn`t treat him. He went to a local mens center that basically would put him on a plan for a $200 membership fee and 200 per month for test. He finds it cheaper and easier to handle it himself. When it comes to hormone administration dr.s seem to be unwilling to help properly. Good luck
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Swolebro User profile

I actually have a co worker that orders his own testosterone instead of going to the doctor. He was right above the cut off levels and his insurance wouldn`t cover it. He was having symptoms of low t and didn`t want to pay full price, so he decided financially it made the most sense to do it himself. We both go through geneza Pharmaceuticals.
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ddc2025 User profile

It cheaper to buy it on this site. Most insurance companies won`t cover the cost of the prescription. Depending on what country you live in the price is ridiculously high. In the US depending on what Pharmacy you get it in the average cost is about $100 per 10 mL vial. I from the New York City/ Long Island area. CVS foremost big pharmacies charge the most by far any controlled substance.
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Matthex User profile

I`ve thought about this same scenario and basically, try is like the Cruise of a blast and cruise.. After doing however many number of cycles thru the years and I`m now 43 years old… I gave up on the ups and downs of being On, then PCT… On, PCT… from here on out I`m blasting and cruising with my gear from 24roids.. I know it and it is easier handling it myself then scheduling and paying for dr visits.. and when all said and done, and I chose to be done Blasting.. well I`ll just try myself, buying my own Test.. So yeah, if you have the patience, time and extra cash and care about it that much, by all means, see your dr.. if you`re pretty competent in handling it yourself, so it yourself.. I`m sure you`re fine to handle on your own bud.. best of luck!!
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I am considering ordering geneza pharmaceutical testosterone enanthate. Does anyone have blood/labs to see the quality? I`ve heard great things. I recently tried para pharma but didn`t have much success. I`ve used anabolic for years and I just want to hear users of geneza experiences.
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Russ User profile

Testosterone is VERY inexpensive to manufacturer, and is virtually NEVER faked or underdosed. You can check anaboliclab.com for blind 3rd party lab tests on both labs you mentioned.
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N88 User profile

i used GP test E and had blood work while on it and it`s 100% legit and potent. What type of non success did you have with Para? Are you saying it was underdosed or not really test or something?
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Johnny Longsockz User profile

GP is good to go in my books I`ve never had anything under dosed or faked by them
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nickname_537 User profile

Testosterone is extremely cheap to manufacture. Look at the ones with recent labs if you must. Labs has been here for too long to sell bunk items otherwise everybody would know by now. Don`t worry, you`ll br fine!
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YD1 User profile

Whats up. GP test is great as well as all others here in 24roids. I wish I can show you results but I dont think I can nor I wish to get kicked out of 24roids lol i have too much to lose if 24roids kicks me out as I depend on them on my gear. 24roids is 150% business! No games, No BS! Give them a try as I know you wont regret it! Im currently in TRT Nd get Testosterone Cypionate 200/10ml on a monthly basis but I also buy from 24roids so I can up my dose Until I go back into my cruise dose which is 200mg/week. Good luck bud.
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K.D.T User profile

I have had labs done while on Dragon and para pharma and test came back far above normal while i have not had labs done while on gp but have similar results when running gp so it`s safe to say is as good quality you won`t be disappointed
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My question is about the expo date. If I buy the 10 pack I’m worried about It expiring. How long out is the expiration date usually?
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N88 User profile

Expiration dates i`ve been getting from GP Test have been 2 to 3 years out. Regardless, they will last longer if you keep it in a stable cool environment. Best to wait for the next product of the week and stock up.
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nickname_537 User profile

Expiration date is only a formality. I`ve used testosterone about 10 or 12 years old and it worked fantastic and no different than brand new ones. It`ll last years past expiration dade, keep it in dark cool place that`s all. xdss8
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Ryan User profile

I ordered test a month ago and its exp date is 10.2022, but honestly as long as its stored safely it should last for a while past that date
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nickname_556 User profile

You might lose potency after some 10 + year after the experation date but not enough to even notice a difference stuff last along time
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anonymous255 User profile

It will last many years past expiration.
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Acfit User profile

As long as you keep it stored in a normal temp dark place, it will be good for years after expiration. May lose minimal potency, but not for years. Good to go.
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What would be the point of voting for this if this is on sale already??? Its basically going to be the same price as it is now as product of the week. Just buy it through this sale, no? I see it on top of product of week.
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zachary hall User profile

Perhaps people are using crypto to buy product and their funds are on hold so they will miss the week’s sale? I know on coinbase you have to wait a few days after buying coin before you can spend it. Just a thought
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Skuchie User profile

Primobolin is the current product of the week.DP Enanthate 250 is in the lead to be product of the week,next week , sept 2nd. It’s currently on sale for $51, if it’s product of the week, it’ll be 1/2 off the 61…or $30.50.
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Anon14 User profile

Product of the week is discounted 50%. It can certainly make a big difference is the final cost.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert

Product of the week will reduce the price by 50% rather than the 10 percent that is on sale right now. After product of the week it will cost $32 a vial
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anonymous255 User profile

Vote for tren e or mast e please!
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nickname_957 User profile

TREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Currently in week eight of GP test C cycle, and I have a ton of zits on my back and chest shoulders . Taking 500 mg a week . Is there a less zit inclined mixture that I could take in the future ? Good results otherwise .
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evan johnson User profile Expert

Nope that is as basic as it gets when comes to steroids apart from just lowering the dose. You need to make sure you are showering post workout.
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N88 User profile

Unfortunately test converts to estrogen and DHT and test c is as basic as it gets. Pin twice a week, two shower min a day and right after working out, change your sheets more frequently, use acne controlling body wash, use acne controlling wipes, take 2.5 mgs of finastiride to keep your dht in balance and make sure to use ais as needed to control estrogen…..both too high and too low estrogen can cause skin problems.
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Acfit User profile

Acne is one of the many side effects from steroids. Some people are more prone to it than others. Acne occurs because the sebaceous glands on the skin secrete more oils due to the increase of androgen levels in the body from the steroids. Working out also causes the body to sweat more and increase the oil levels on the skin. Best thing to do is wash twice a day and use over the counter acne medication to dry out the skin and acne. Make sure to take and AI (anastrozole) as well to help lower your estrogen levels as well. Start with .5mg twice a week for the amount of Test you’re taking. It’s strong stuff. Good luck.
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Ryan User profile

Honestly I dont think theres a better steroid as far as side effects go, best you can do is stay clean and maybe try some acne medication
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

You ment to say Test E, right? Anyway, testosterone has 1:1 androgen to anabolic effect profile. You can lower the androgenic side effects by lowering how much of it is converted into DHT, since DHT is what gives testosterone the big androgenic side effects. To do so, you can opt for 5-AR inhibitor dutasteride. It works well for androgen-induced acne, but it takes time to work and stabilize in your blood (it has a HUGE long half-life, I think 4-5 weeks, so you`ll even have to front-load it for a few weeks). Not much you can do about it right now. Perhaps order some finasteride or lower your dosage, and go on a skin cleaning regimen.
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Scott User profile

Change shirts after your lift. Shower 2x a day. I use this brand called cetaphil. They have really good soap and scrubs. It’s helped me with with any acne issues. Some more prone or extreme acne cases I would recommend accutane.
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Is it dangerous if your hematocrit and hemoglobin levels rise above the normal range while taking testosterone?
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

You will see a rise in your red blood cells while on gear. It`s an expected side effect. Some AAS raise it more than others (EQ for example). Avg. levels of healthy adults is about 45%, AAS users 55%. Many consider 55% to be the absolute cut off for safety (any higher, and AAS should be discontinued till levels return to normal). Should your levels approach 55%, you should go donate blood. A hematocrit above 60% is considered critical (life threatening).
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todd mcgee User profile

Yes if it gets too high it causes your blood to get thick n clog your arteries n you can have a heart attack. Give blood every 3 months to lower your hematocrit levels..
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ViktorN User profile

Yes! Increase in blood volume increases blood pressure. This will then lead to aneurism, breakage of a weaken vessel. Test will do that especially EQ. One thing to prevent high blood pressure due to increase in blood volume is to donate blood. This is not to say that donating blood due to high blood pressure because predisposition conditions like chesterol or hardening of vascular vessel will lower your bp. So from what you ask I can’t answer due to not know what your condition is before testosterone. If you took EQ then yes donate blood and it will lower bp. Hope that help. And good luck my friend!
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Go donate blood in you have high levels. Blood quantity raises while on gear causing high pressure hence problems..donate will lower issues
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nickname_537 User profile

It`s normal to occur on steroids and 8f it gets above range then for safety donate blood every 2 months or such.
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Fit_mom User profile

My husband started test and he donates plasma 2x a week. His hematocrit is normally mid to low range if he doesnt keep his iron intake up. He does bleed more when he is cut after starting test
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I`m 2 weeks into a Dianabol & Test E cycle. Today and Yesterday I wasn`t feeling as good as I normally do. I feel like my heart is beating a little faster and harder than usual and my breathing is more labored than usual. My overall energy levels are down as well. When I was in the gym I felt like if I pushed too hard, I wouldn`t be able to continue and would have to stop early. I started with 20mg dbol daily and 250mg test e per week. I bumped the dbol up to 30mg a day after experiencing 0 side effects through my first week. I have an AI (Anastrazole) on hand, but have not taken any yet because I haven`t experienced any sides. I take lots of omega-3 daily as well as a multivitamin, vitamin d3, and a liver support all daily. Is it time to take the AI, will this go away on its own? Should I lower the dbol dosage? Are these signs of high blood pressure, bad lipid profile etc…? Thanks in advance.
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Marcus User profile

I gave you advice down below
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert

Also, did you mean to say that you are taking 250mg of chlorine TWICE per week? (I previously assumed this was the case)… 250mg ONCE per week would be a TRT (therapeutic replacement dosage) that should not give you elevated blood pressure OR elevated estrogen, even with the inclusion of Dbol.
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Joe User profile Expert

Listen to your body stop going to the gym for 3-5 days, It seems like you over worked some muscles. Your dosages are too low to cause any problem with blood pressure. Stop taking dbol and up the test to 500mg a week in divided doses. Eat clean and let your body heal before pounding the same muscle groups
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nickname_556 User profile

Sound like high bp Get you blood work done and dose so and other meds accordingly can`t really play the guesimg game with this stuff or you could permanently mess your self up
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Maison User profile

I would say get rid of the dbol and see if your sides go away.
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Nattygains User profile

I would say for a quick fix bump your test e dose and drop the d bol back down. But overall I think you can keep the dbol the same as long as the test dose gets bumped. You don’t have to go straight up too 500mg a week. You can even try splitting the dose at 125mg twice a week instead of just doing the 250mg once a week. It will keep you levels elevated more and show increase your overall energy. Whatever you decide to do. Do it gradually and see how your body reacts.
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I am running this at 500mg a week, I’m 5’9 150 about 12-13% BFAnyway, how do you all increase your calories on week by week? B/c natty when I bulk I would go for 1-1.5 lbs a week and increasing my calories by about 200-300 when my weight stalls but with TRT would it be the same way?
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evan johnson User profile Expert

You can increase your calories as much as you want. Just know that some of your weight gain will be fat even on anabolics. You could also not increase your calories at all and you would gain a lot of muscle through body recomposition since you are so new to exogenous testosterone
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So i cant store this in my house if i was to store it in my stainless steel water jug which i have my hcg in right now with some ice the hcg is on ice would it be ok to put my test in the jug and position it so its not directly on ice but staying cool while i have to store it in my car throught the cycle instead of it being exposed to alot of heat would this be better than storing it in the car as is just in a backpack or something?
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Heman User profile

You don’t need to keep test cool, backpack put in your trunk will be fine
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More Tren User profile

Room temperature is enough, it doesn`t have to be cool but it will be fine in the bottle too. Put them in a zip lock bag because water can carry around bacteria very easily
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SteveC User profile

You really just need to he putting it in your house man lol. There has to be some spot SOMEWHERE in your house where you can keep it. You shouldn`t be carrying it around with you not only for temperature and exposure reasons but also legal ones too.
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Dan J User profile

Actually yes, it may be better to store it in cooler temp than in the heat of the car. Do note that it may crystalize, just heat it a lil bit before injection and you should be good.
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ROBERT User profile

It`s best kept in a room temperature setting but it wont e going into drastic temperatures so you`ll be fine.
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GainsVille_85 User profile

I’m confused as to why you can’t keep it in your own house. Buy a bankers box and keep it locked in a drawer somewhere. You’re asking for trouble by taking it everywhere you go, whether it’s getting caught with it or losing it or breaking the vial. It just seems like you’re making it hard on yourself.
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What’s up guys I just wanted a clarification for my first cycle. So I’m thinking of running Test E for 10 weeks at 500mg/ml a week, pinning twice e/a pin being 250mg/ml. Then wait 2 weeks before starting PCT w/ Nolvadex at 40g per day for 1-2 weeks, and 20 g for weeks 3&4.
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Yuhan User profile

Its a good first cycle. Have some arimidex on hand just in case you ran into estrogen problem. If you hcg 250 iu a week while on cycle your pct will work quicker
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anonymous99 User profile

Include clomid for pct along with nolva because just nolva wont cut it. Take clomid for week 1 and 2 : 100 MG. week 3and 4 : 50 MGFor future cycles I recommend addition of hcg as well.
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ROBERT BERG User profile

Thats perfect for a first time. I would add Clomid to the PCT. Other than that, good luck with everything
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nick User profile

Test only cycle is a wise decision for your first cycle. You also need AI and hcg. 250-500iu twice a week
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Massgains User profile

I wouldn’t wait till the end and wait two weeks While at the end of you. Cycle I would run a bottle of prop the last month to let you long ester get out of you so you know when to start pct. you would start pct three days after last injection. Instead of not really know where to stop and start
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Beard User profile

Just like everyone said, add clomid to PCT at 100/100/50/50. And have aromasin which I always run at 12.5mg a day. To me theres just no reason to allow ur estrogen to be up so high which it will be because ur body will naturally try to balance out. Whether or not ur sides are bad or not noticable i still take it. I`ve had gyno before from not taking it when i was younger n just dont gamble with that bullshit.
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So it will be fine storing it in my car throughout my whole cycle as long as i keep the windows cracked?
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Beard User profile

Nah, definitely dont keep it in the hot car bro. It`s small and easy to hide in the house theres just no reason to
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Norman User profile

The prolonged exposure to heat and sun light is not good for the oils. There is a reason they say keep away from sun and keep at room temp
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anonymous99 User profile

If you just want a simple answer it is a NO. Never do it.
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Jeff User profile

Yeah I just dont see why ud even want to. Very easy to hide. Plus u cant inject it while it`s hot. I remember one time I had kept mine just in a hot room but out in the open, and I went to pin and the shit looked like it was carbonated because there was a million tiny little bubbles from being in the heat. I couldn`t get them out to inject it. I had to let it sit in a cool place until it went back to normal
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Jay User profile

Don`t do it, why risk it and keep it in the car though? My guess is your girl is against it and is being a pain in the butt
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ViktorN User profile

You can do that but you won’t feel a thing from your gear. Definitely the potency will get weaker and weaker. Heat, pH, radiation UV with breakdown hormones. This is why you need to store your gear in a cool (Not fridge) dark space. Why not put them in a small box above the closet? Don’t store gear or anything in a vehicle. Good luck my friend!!
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I have this will it be fine if i store it in my car at work under the seat with the windows cracked also with some arimidex an nolvadex it should be fine shouldnt it with the windows cracked
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N88 User profile

pills are fine but oils are not fine to store at high temps for extended periods. Ideally you want it in a dark cool location like in your temp controlled indoor cabinet
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert

Testosterone is NOT temperature sensitive, in fact many folks heat the oil before injecting. Especially for one or two instances, it will be absolutely fine!
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Will User profile Expert

That is perfectly fine. Storing in cold temps will cause crystal`s and warm temps are used to cause the crystals to go away. So you`re safe with the oil being in warmer temps. The pill quality on the pills will make them depend though. Poor quality can mean it will be powder the second you touch the pill. With that, I`m talking super warm temps.
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Mike User profile

Test usually are cooked with heat so the test is going to be fine but make sure your pill don`t get too hot.
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Anderson User profile

Yes they are not room temperature and they are made using some sort of heat element but they all state clearly that must be kept at room temperature away from sun. If your car`s interior meets the conditions then you are fine
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John Juan User profile

It all depends where you live. Warm or Cooler climate? Your car’s tempCan vary depending on temps outside but the fluctuation won’t be good for any gear at least for storing long term. Buy a safe and keep it hidden. You’ll be at ease knowing your gear is safe!
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Im getting to my last ML in the vial its close to empty its looks like its going to be hard to get the last ML out of the vial
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ROBERT User profile

When that happens to me I take nail clippers and clip off the foil at the top, pop the rubber out and it allows you to get the syringe in and trap the liquid in the corner.
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Jay User profile

Its ok, there is always going to be some amount wasted either though the syringe dead space or in the vial where you can`t draw. I don`t recommend you taking the top off, there is going to be a risk of contamination and 1 ml is just not worth it
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Dalton Carpenter User profile

I would just try to get as much as you can, poke the top of the vial in a couple dif spots to get better angles
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nickname_963 User profile

Push pin as far to one side as possible. As you are drawing, slowly back up the drawing needle through the rubber stopper to suck every last bit of oil you can. No worries if your short a little, that means you have been taking or too a slightly higher dose by accident sometime.
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ViktorN User profile

Open the rubber top! But be as aseptic as possible. Meaning do not touch the oil. Break the metal ring with a sharp scissors. Once metal ring is broken careful feel it off. Then gingerly remove the rubber top. With the vial tilted, draw the oil out with a long syringe. Long syringe will keep the inner vial as sterile as possible. Once all oil is drawn swap needle. The needle used for drawing is definitely dull. Hope that helps and good luck my friend!!
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Scott User profile

Barely push the pin through the rubber. And try different angles. You will be able to see it through your glass vial. I’ve never had any issues. If you still want to get every last decimal drop out, remove the top like others have said. Just be careful to not touch the oil
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Difference between Cyp test , and Eth. Test.
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ViktorN User profile

The effect on your body? Not a damn thing!! Molecular structure? Practically the same thing except 8 carbon ester while test E had 7. Half life for enanth is 4. 5 days while Cyp has 8 days. But that doesn’t matters once the tests take in affect. I personally take enanth while other prefer Cyp. It’s all depends on how your body react to the ester. In the end, test is test! Hope that helps my friend!!
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D-man User profile Expert

Both are slow acting esters of testosterone with a release time between 10-14 days. These two are usually considered interchangeable. I usually inject either of them twice per week. Prop is a really fast ester and needs to be injected every other day.
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nickname_963 User profile

Test E has an ester chain, or chemical composition, made up of 7-carbons while Test C has 8-carbons. The only real difference between cypionate and enanthate is that the former is said to break down and assimilate at a slower rate, giving it a longer half-life
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Tommie t User profile

The difference between test Cypionate and test Enanthate. The only difference is the Easter they are attached to. Cypionate the Easter has a half like of 8 days. For the Enanthate the half life is 4 1/days. But as fare as how powerful the tests them self are is completely the same 250mgs of test is 250mgs of test
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

The only difference is the elimination half life. Cyp 7-8 days and enth 4-5 days each should be injected twice a week to maintain stable blood levels
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

Not much at all. I believe about a day half life (actual absorption rate not half life as people think) and perhaps a small amount of mg difference due to the molecule (functional group) cypionate being larger and therefore heavier than the Enanthate group. But practically and functionally the same compound.
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One of my orders contained just a single bottle and the oil looks a decent bit darker than the others. Is this because a different oil base was used? I`m still waiting for the HCG from that order to come, is it possible it was mixed with the Test? I`m still very new to all this. So far nothing but great service and quality from GP. I would recommend them to other first timers for sure.
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mchilds User profile

No the HCG is not mixed with the test if that is what you’re asking. Some carrier oils are different than others. Some are clear some are a yellowish tint.
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Tren Man User profile

Carrier oils come in different colors and thickness. You didn`t mention what kind of test and from which lab it was from.
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Andrew Turner User profile

The The different colors and oil’s could just mean it’s a different batch you shouldn’t worry about that at all. And if you ordered from different labs like for instants the hCG it’s gonna ship for a different location so it will come in a different package if you go on the website and go on my account you can get the tracking numbers for your order
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

Different batches may look different colours, perhaps slight alterations in carrier oils. The compound is still the same. Not sure what you mean “mixed with hCG”, you will never get a product that is mixed with hCG. . .
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

If you are asking if it was mixed with the HCG I would say certainly no as it is 99. 9% chance they were made in different parts of the world. Different stuff is colored differently. Test Propionate is different color than Test Enanthate and Tren is different than those two, or they could be the same. The same lot/batch will be the same color but that is about all the logic there is to that. Different brands may also have different colored gear. Good luck.
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RJB User profile

Yeah carrier oil can have a different tint and thickness. Also the HCG is not mixed with your Test.
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I`m running my first cycle at 37 years old. I am 5`11, 180. I`m running 500 a week of Test E, 2 pins a week. Does it matter how long I run it if I am not worried about my nuts? I want to push it as far as I can being my first cycle. I plan to cruise when it`s done and eventually get on TRT. Should I be doing more to get the most out of it? How worried about anastrozole should I be at 500mg a week?
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Will User profile Expert

It`s your first cycle, you usually should start lower at like 300mg and see how your body reacts. Cycling anabolics, you`ll want to run lower doses to begin and taper up with future cycles. You likely could have gotten good results with your first cycle at 300mg and then your second cycle at 500mg. Now you`re at 500mg and will have to go up from there on future cycles. Be careful when planning future cycles to consider this. Don`t use high doses early. The comparison is using TNT on a door if you locked yourself out. Its overkill and hurts you in the long run. It`s usually advised to run PCT after your first couple cycles so you can get in the pattern on coming off when needed. Unless you have a prescription for TRT, always have PCT on hand just in case because you don`t want to be caught in a situation you don`t have any test and don`t have the compounds for PCT. Then your test is suppressed and nothing can bring it back. In the long run, blasting and cruising is a good idea IF you`re able to keep your health markers and blood work in check. I again recommend running PCT after your first few cycles and getting regular bloodwork done. Never getting back on cycle until you`re 100% healthy in your bloodwork. Good luck!
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ViktorN User profile

First cycle you want to take it easy and see how you react with TestE or anything else. Test E won’t kick in until 3-4 weeks. Most of our colleagues will go 16 weeks. As for “pushing it”, you need to build the basic frame like bone density, muscle mass, diet, routine, etc before your “take it to the limit”. Or else you just wasting gear. For example, you can’t build a tall building with a strong foundation and frame work. 509mg per week is a good start but some of our experts would recommend less since it’s your first. Test will stop your natural test production so your huevos esta lo siento” :). You need pct 14 days after your less pinto get the natural test start again. Since you want to cruise and get on trt you might want to do blood 12 days after your last pin. Have anastrozole ready if you have signs of sides. In all you did go, your first cycle is only test , you have anastrozole on hand just in case, I would only rev you be patience with the push yourself until you know how your body response to test. Hope that helps and good luck my friend!!
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mchilds User profile

You will need an AI at 500mg weekly. I would have arimidex and either letro or Aromasin on hand as well if arimidex doesn’t work. Start low doses only if you get symptoms.
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Big E User profile

Since this is your first cycle there is no need for 500 mg/wk. Just do 250mg/wk to start and you will be very pleased with the results. At this dose you will not need to worry about any aromatase inhibitor. You should start to notice significant increase in strength by week 4 or 5 and of course the size will come shortly thereafter I would run the cycle for about 14-16 weeks.
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Tren Man User profile

You can`t run it indefinitely, your body needs to clear itself from excess test for 1 months at least after cycle. Keep liver and kidneys healthy. Do 12 week cycles, its plenty of time to add size.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

500 mg/week test only is the perfect first cycle, so good choice on your end. Even if you aren`t planning to PCT, you should cycle blasts the same way. We aren`t cycling because we want to preserve our nuts, we are cycling because the supraphysiological dosages are stressing our bodies so much so they need a break after a few months. For first cycle, I`d do 12 weeks.
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Can I use test 250 and GP Bold in the same syringe or do I have to shot it separately
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evan johnson User profile Expert

Yes they can and should be shot in the same syringe and the only exceptions would be anabolics that have super high concentrations per ml in which case there might be too much post injection pain. However at 250mg/ml test and 200mg/ml boldenone you will have no such problems not to mention I have used this lab personally and gotten great results.
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Chris M User profile Expert

This is perfectly fine and much better then doing multiple pins at once. As long as you`ve injected as much oil at one time as you plan to now, then you shouldnt have any pip at all. Even though they are long esters, i always recommend doing shots every other day to keep blood levels as steady as possible for maximum benefits and least amount of side effects.
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Chip User profile Expert

You can absolutely combine both GP Test 250 and GP Boldenone in the same syringe for one convenient injection. Oils will mix in a single syringe seamlessly and you`ll have no problems as you inject.
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bigmurph User profile Expert

You can load them together just don`t go over 2ml or if you`re really big guy you can load 3ml. You can mix anything and inject but I would be careful because different compounds made by different companies and even the same company can have a certain amount of bb and ba that if you pin it all together the pip can be horrible because of the bb and ba adding up to be so much. Other solvents like gluicol and other super solvents combined can really be bad so give it a try and if its good you can continue to keep going.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert

Yes, you can absolutely combine those two and inject in a single syringe/ shot. This would be two ML of product, which is considered an acceptable amount for a single injection as long as you inject slowly and deep in the muscle tissue. If you added a 3rd compound or increased dosage and got into the 3-4ml range, you would be safer to split the total volume into two injections.
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anyway to find out if it is made from cotton seed oil.
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Enzo Alvarez User profile

Geneza has traditionally used Medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) oil as carrier.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

Geneza and most other labs will use mct or grape seed oil, because it is better dissolved into the muscle and pip free compared to cotton seed oil. The only time you will find cotton seed oil is from trt or pharmaceutical test because they are coming from a cost effective friendly aspect not caring much about the consumer compared to Geneza and other labs who want you to enjoy and use their product so they have returning customers.
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Tuser User profile

Have found Geneza to use mct. Also does not smell like cotton seed oil side by side.