I want to take 100mg a week. How many CC would I need?
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BigZ User profile
Are you cruising? If so 100mg a week might be enough so you want to pin 50mg mon/thurs each line is usually 25mg so 2Nd line would equal about 50mg.
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ShelbieSzymanek User profile
I’m a femal and trying this for the first time.i thought 100mg would be goo to start like it says. My syringe goes up to 3ML/CC. So I should take 1ML/CC Monday and Thursday?
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BigZ User profile
No no 1cc would be 250mg of test the 2nd little line on your syringe. Each line is 25mg on most syringes. For example half a cc is 125mg. 1cc 250mg. I hope that make sense
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ShelbieSzymanek User profile
It does! Thank you! The advise is greatly appreciated!
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BillySantos User profile
Honestly the average male produces about 50mg of testosterone a week, you`ll be injecting twice that. I`m sure that you`re aware of the effects that testosterone has on the body hair growth, bone density, facial structure, deepening of the voice, etc. You`d want to inject 0.2ml of test every Monday and Thursday.
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ShelbieSzymanek User profile
Yes! I have read about the side effects and would like to avoid them. Looking for a easy dose that is recommended for women. I really appreciate the advice. Is there anything else I should be stacking with this to help hormone levels or avoid side effects?
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joe shaw User profile
To actually answer this question. To take 100mg each week of a substance with a concentration of 250mg/ml you want to be taking .4cc each week. (Assuming here that we know 1 CC = 1 mL, which I`ve come to find over the years is news to people more often than it isn`t lol. Stay in school!!)
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
common question brother! I will show a trick to get you the volume you need for any gear you going to use in the future. Take whatever mg you want to pin and divide by the concentration of the gear. In your case, you want 100mg and you will divide that by the concentration of 250mg per ml. 100mg/250mg per ml is equal 0.4ml. You know this is correct because the mg cancel out leaving ml. Hope that`s clear and don`t forget to vote for GP sustanon270 for potw.
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POOKIE2 User profile
0.4 ML. Just divide the mgs you want (100) by the mgs per ml (250). 100 ÷ 250 = 0.4. Good luck….stay swole!
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Have some crystallization in my testosterone Cyp Best suggestion warm water or a heating pad ??
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Zilla User profile
Set the vial directly onto a skillet & heat on low until dissolved.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Water or water bath is the best way to transfer heat to another object so it best to use water in a cup. Heat your water to coffee hot. Place your vial in the very warm water where the water level reach the neck of the vial. But do not submerge water to reach the rubber stopper. Let it sit for a few minutes. Crystals should go back in solution in 5 minutes or so. Good luck buddy! Don`t forget to vote.
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Bob321 User profile
So I did the water thing and it ended up getting some merged water got to the rubber stopper should I get a vile
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
it’s perfectly fine friend. Just don’t do it all the time. Just wipe bottles liberally with alcohol. The crimp tighten the rubber stopper and sealed the inside from the outside. you gtg!
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Onyx User profile
Place the vial in a glass of hot water. In a few minutes your testosterone should be g2g. I wish you luck and a successful cycle!
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Bob321 User profile
Ended up putting it in water but my files ended up being submerged they fell over one had a cap on it the other one didn`t ad
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nickname_311 User profile
You could try submerging in warm water but I would be afraid of the cap coming off. What I would submerge it is in enough water that it doesn`t go up to the cap and just let it sit like that and stir it gently while heating up.
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.50 caliber User profile
i always take a small sauce pan put enough water in it to go to the neck of the vial heat on medium to high, when it starts to boil shut it off, let sit for a few minutes ,the roll around between fingers. always works.
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Hello guy`s can someone please help me out on thisi have been on TRT for 21 years. I do it myself now. i inject test cyp once a week at 200mg. I have made great size and strength on EQ and test cyp/Enanthate. Since my body is used to 200mg weekly, what dose will you suggest? I currently have EQ , NPP, test prop and test cyp Thanks
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Jogger User profile Expert
bro all depends on the gains you want dry or not, although you can cut with all steroids i would do 400 test c or e with 600 eq for 16-20 weeks or npp and test prop pinned eod, good luck bro
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Will User profile Expert
If you feel you maxed out 200mg, then up it to 300mg. Slow and steady increasing the dose.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
200mgper week of any type of test is not cycling. Bump it up to 200mg per pin and pin twice a week. that`s 400mg per week. But first, either pin testP or TestCyp unless you know how to jump start test. Don`t use both. I say with pin NPP and testP orTestCyp and EQ. From your description, go with testCyp at 400mg per week and EQ at 500mg per week. Split both in 2 pins. go on a 16 weeks cycle. then drop back down to 200mg per week trt dose. It will take you 4-5 weeks for test/EQ to kick in. But it does you will get big and strong. Your endurance and stamina will be off the hinges! Save the NPP and testP for next cycle. To be continue….don`t forget to vote.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
I got to agree with crazy dan. At least double the test, 400mgs of NPP if you chose that, or 600mgs EQ if you don`t mind running something for a long time. To be clear dont jump on all 3. Since you`re asking for advice, for minimal sides, run the Test/EQ combo for at least 16 weeks shot twice and week and have anastrolzole on hand as you may need at least .25mgs on shot days. Also, just so you know your body better, get a blood test like at week 10 to see how your endocrine profile looks. Good luck and don`t forget to vote!
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Whenever I run test + EQ, I do 400mg test and 600mg EQ, just like others have said. Great stamina and energy without too much bloat and cramping. Best of luck, remember to vote!
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charleshernandez User profile
Thanks you guy`s very much you have been of great help. Thanks again
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Anyone order recently from the states and received there order? What was the delivery time from Geneza. Thanks for your help
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
I ordered 10 GP Test E on March 17 and they were delivered on May, 5th which way longer than usual but if you order now it should be delivered on time given countries around the world are lifting the lock down restriction.
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nickname_311 User profile
Ordered April 9th Delivered Saturday. I was very happy..I ordered test when it was potw.
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Joeskee User profile
Yes ordered from dragon and Geneza and just got three packages within the last three weeks and everything cam e in smooth and it took tops 30 days
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Star Fox User profile
To answer your question and save the political rant for another time, it took close to 40 days this time around. Which is not bad given the current state. In the past around 25-3days. Hopefully this answered your question. Good luck.
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Hiker001 User profile
I ordered Geneza when it was POTW. It took from order to delivery almost 4 weeks, coming from Malaysia. It even had a reshippping note 5 days after the initial shipping track number was sent. Still made it though
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I`m running a GP test cyp cycle at 400mg a week (first cycle). I have a few packs of aromasin on hand just in case. Any guys run that dose or around that dose? Trying to figure out if I should run the aromasin at 12.5 mg every 3 days or just wait until I need it. I also plan on running 50mg of proviron with it to help with libido. Would the proviron help keep estrogen levels lower? Figured I`d ask you guys instead of trying to google it lol.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
First, you don`t need to take any AI unless you know you need them. Why take it when you are Not experiencing estrogen sides? Second, proviron will help you with your libido.Third, proviron is an estrogen blocker so even if you a prone to estrogen it can aid in stopping estrogen. Proviron has a lot of positive sides so good choice! btw great choice with 400mg per week of testCyp. Then go up if you need it in future cycle. don`t forget to vote.
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Will User profile Expert
It`s good that you have an AI on hand just in case but you don`t need to take it for the sake of taking it. Take it if you notice estrogenic side effects like sensitive nipples, acne, and excessive water weight. Being that this is your first cycle, hold off on the proviron until your 3rd cycle at the earliest. Your on your first cycle. No need to take a second compound now or even your second cycle. You need to gauge how your body responds to test at different doses before adding new variables into the mix.
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Bdub User profile
35 y/o Male 5`”11, 210lbs 17% Bf. I ran my first cycle of Test E back in January for six weeks at 375 Mgs a week and I didn`t take an AI. I was more bloated than I realized. Figured it out when I got on post cycle (stomach seemed to shred several inches). I had zero problems with libido. I`m currently on my second cycle Test E 500 Mg a week. Running .5mg armidex twice a week and waiting for my mid cycle labs to adjust. Just keep on with the Bro science. It works and we all react different.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
No reason to use an ai unless you feel and or see the sides. Anti astrogens are bad for your health because if not needed they`ll lower estrogen too much. Not everybody needs anti estrogens. Using an air is not a given part of any cycle, it is only used if needed only. Also proviron us good, use it at 25mg to 50mg per day while some go to 100mg or more I`d say stick to 50mg daily max. The amount of estrogen blocking from proviron is too little to hurt you but enough to help and besides the main reason to use proviron is due to it`s ability to lower shbg which helps other steroids work better. Good luck man.
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Star Fox User profile
Since it`s your first cycle, keep it simple to test only. Sounds like your on the right path. As for AI, the common answer will be take it on needed bases. Bloodwork is the key. If you can, get spend the extra 100-200$ and get bloodwork done to determine if AI is needed. That`s what I plan on doing. Good luck!
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MikeM User profile
The bottom line is balance. There are great pro expert posts and shows on AI and the overuse of it. AI is best only used when a person starts displaying sides during a cycle. As for Prov…in my experience and what I`ve seen in the results of many of my bro`s, Prov should be a staple in any real cycle (real being dosages above a cruise). Test is an essential base of any stack, however test is the guaranteed component that aromastisizes, bringing about some level of estrogen conversion and rebound. Everyone has a sweet spot, on 500/Week Test E or C, I find 50mg Prov is golden; 25mg 2x/day. It just balances the test and avoids any sides or bloat, ive never needed any AI at all; although it`s great to have on hand in case of sides and in that case use sparingly not EOD or E3D and not full doses, it needs to be used as warranted per results, if it all, we don`t want to kill estrogen totally bc that would be counterproductive. Test C or E at 400/week is the very low end of test use IM and almost no one will see bad estrogen sides at that level; those using 1000/week or stacking with other aromastasizing compounds are who will need AIs. In addition to the great balance and selective management provided by Proviron, it`s a great adrogenic, dry/hardener, many report positive effects on libido, keeping quality gains and also great with other additions to any cycle. Good luck in finding that perfect balance.
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I`ve been looking for opinions on which brands of Test Cyp are the best. I`m on TRT, and I`ve always used used Geneza Cyp in the past. I`ve heard Dragon Pharma is good as well. Thoughts?
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JeyReign User profile
Any brand 24roids has is great. Brands I have personally used are Hilma, Dragon, and Maha. Maha comes in ampoules. All around great products. If your hesitant go to the product and just check out the reviews. If my answer was helpful please vote!
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Jogger User profile Expert
I have used dragon aaster para pharma and Geneza all great friend, good luck
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TLT User profile
I think you will get similar responses from users on here – Dragon and Geneza are great. I`ve seen great results with Test Cyp alone.
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Uhoh38125 User profile
Aaaster been great to me all around. especially heir prop was fire.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Heard? I use practically Dragon now a day. So trust me Dragon is legit! I`ve done Dragon cyp250 as a base, TestE, Test Blend (was Sustanon), Propionate100, amount many others! None has fell me! They are all good so shop with confidence friend.
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POOKIE User profile
Got labs from both GP and DP and both are legit 100%. I`m on TRT also so get bloods all the time on those two test brands and ng/dl values are always high. My doc prescribed test Cyp vials gets used when I go on Cycle. Cant go wrong with either. Normally order test E from those two. Good luck
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I bought GP Cyp and enanthate 250. I am not allergic to anything and have been doing gear for a decade (IM). Now starting TRT and hence doing it Sub-Q. I was very disappointed that the Cyp and enanthate both gave me horrible BIG painful lumps in my mid-section. When I injected in front thigh instead – my entire upper leg has change color and one part even has dry skin out of nowhere. Was painful to walk many days. Seems like permanent pain there. I have waited 6 weeks and no better. Very disappointed. Any ideas what is going on?
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BradO User profile
Need to know what kind of syringe and needle gauge you are using. Also, avoid the quads as much as possible..
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Gabriel Hernandez User profile
I`ve used Gp cyp for years , I`ve never had a issue . You mentioned sub q I wasn`t sure what you referring to I hope you are not injecting this sub q as it is intramuscular. Also if you are not used to intramuscular injections your first injections could potentially have pip until your body gets used to having a foreign substance injected, I always recommend a ice pack for 15-20 minutes on swollen area followed by heat either a hot shower ,heat pad or steam room. Repeat this process and your pip will quickly go away. Also before injecting any oils make sure they are slightly heated, I`ve found this helpful also
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Littleguy John User profile
I had the same thing happen. It was the syringes I believe. I bought new pins and used the same vial with no problem. Note I was just starting and cleaned and reused pins. So maybe a reaction to bleach from incorrect rinsing which I think it was for me. Now I always use a new drawing needle and fresh pin for injection everytime with out exception.
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Barry Gibson User profile
First things first you need to consult a medical professional because this has not subsided on such a long time. Second you need sharper thinner needles and make sterility a priority.
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POOKIE User profile
Stop doing it Sub-Q and switch back to IM. Why are you shooting oils sub-Q anyway?? Test E is best absorbed IM and I`d start pinning that way to see if all your lumps and issues go away. Good luck
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Patriot User profile Expert
Not throwing any shade, but who told you that you could use any of these oil based testosterones Sub Q? Go back to IM dude.
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Captain Crapper User profile
Thats the price you pay for subQ man. No getting around it with oil. Its not uncommon to have lumps up to 4 weeks post pin. The area could be red as well. To mitigate some of this, heat your syringe with hot water for about 45 seconds and make sure you sterilize everything. In addition to what some of the others have recommended, massage the area right after for 10 minutes will help with the lumps.
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Just switched from enathate to cyp and been breaking out on my back, has anyone been breaking out from this cyp?
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nickname_854 User profile
It is the enanthate that makes me break out on my back and ass. I use retin a u can get it on this site it works well.
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Oilboy User profile Expert
I`m currently taking .5 cc per week for cruising and my face is breaking out with this particular test. I inject in my shoulders and my arms are breaking out as well. Its not unusual for me. I think my body is just getting used to going from prop to cypionate
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Joe User profile Expert
Its not the test. Test is test, the difference between Test E and Test C is one carbon atom. If you breaking out on test c you should also break out on test e. One explnation could be your Cyp is more concentrated and you are pinning more test than you think.
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Tlift User profile
If you did not up your dose or frequency of injection Then like many test results show ,some brands or batches have higher doses of test per ml than listed on label.
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Hey! If I was running 500mg for a couple weeks, and realized something came up and needed to stop cycle – would I need to run PCT? I`m pretty sure i started shutting down but not sure since it`s still early. Thank you!
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Branko User profile
It was just getting steady in to blood at that point…but even if you were shut down, it wasn`t for very long so I`d think you would bounce back pretty fast. You could start taking some zinc and horny goat weed to help out, but I really don`t think a full PCT is necessary at 2 weeks.
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POOKIE User profile
Very doubtful you are fully shutdown from just two weeks of 500 mgs per, but….if you have clomid on hand I would run it just in there was some suppression. Everyone is different and some would not get very suppressed from two weeks worth and a few others may experience a full or almost full shutdown. If you have it, I`d run 50 mgs daily for two weeks. If you don`t have it not a huge huge deal because you will rebound (or should) pretty quickly. Good luck
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
2 weeks is not that long. It won`t kick in until 4-5 weeks so even if it`s shut down, your endrocrine will kick it back. In other words, if your system shut down, it only shut down for a short period of time. You will be ok. Pct is for shutting down your natty test completely AND for long period of time, like a cycle of 10 weeks. That said, if you think you are shut down and wants to be save take clomid at 50/50 daily for 2 weeks. good luck
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Barry Gibson User profile
It`s not that long so you`ll be fine. Or if you`d like take clomid maybe 50mg daily for a couple weeks tops.
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I decided to ask here cause I don`t know how to ask in general question… if u get package seized in Miami will your address be flagged in another customs facility or will it just be flagged in the one it was seized in..
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Cyclone User profile Expert
I have never heard and concrete confirmation of a “blacklist” or flagged address list, but I did notice at my old home address that once a package got seized, it seemed to happen more often. I dunno. One cheap and easy option is to get a PO box – runs about $30 for 6 months!
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Michael Smith User profile
Different versions of this question pop up often, no one can ever say 100%. I`ve heard it both ways. Most people seem to choose an alternative address or a P.O. Box after getting siezed though.
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Will User profile Expert
No, that`s not how it works. They cannot assume all packages with your name on it contain something worth seizing. Not to mention customs and states seize so much that they don`t look at all your packages because 1 was seized.
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nickname_311 User profile
No it won`t get flagged by another Customs unit. I had one shipment go Chicago it got seized. I had another shipment go through New York it did not get seized. Good luck and God loves you.
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What type of oil is used with the GP Test 250, e.g. grapeseed, cotton, coconut, etc?
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S-C-J User profile
I have read online that they use MCT (Medium chain triglycerides), but please be advised that UGLs regularly change carrier oils based on availability and supply/demand. I hate the term “pharma grade”, but some go this route because they have an allergy and those brands will demonstrate greater product consistency, and in most cases will NOT change carrier oils.
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BigOlRed User profile
A lot of places I`ve been seeing are using cottonseed oil more
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RJB16 User profile
As stated each carrier uses different oils. With that being said remember they are UGL`s and probably use whatever they can get cheaper. I am guessing you are asking due to PIP, I got bad PIP from grapeseed oil so if that is why you are asking I feel you r pain.
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Taylor User profile
To my knowledge Geneza Pharmaceutical uses Grapeseed oil. If you open up live chat and ask 24roids its their product as they`re the manufacturer
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barclord User profile
Most likely it is grapeseed oil with Geneza but you may see MCT, or cottonseed on occasion.
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BABA User profile
We can tell you it`s going to be one or the other but honestly only the manufacturers know and even that information changes on a regular basis. Best way is to contact 24roids Help directly.
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Hey, so I`m looking to start blasting and cruising. I`m used to doing 500mg of cyp a week while on cycle then dose down the last couple of weeks to 250mg then 125mg before I start PCT. my question is, what is a good dosage to come down to for TRT. And how long after this TRT dosage should I get my bloods to see where I`m at? I understand everyone is different but just looking for a starting point so I can adjust from there. Any advice or info is appreciated and thank you in advance
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Vkpl511 User profile
If your plan is to cruise between after 500mg/wk blasts, then somewhere between 150mg`s to 200mg`s per week should be good to cruise on. I think the half-life of cyp is about 8 to 10 days, so I`d wait a couple of weeks before i got bloods done just so you can get a baseline of how much free test your body is maintaining on a TRT dosage (along with getting estradiol, and all of the liver numbers checked — the alka phos [ALP], ALT, AST, etc….) and make sure your levels are back to normal range on everything. Not sure if you`ve been running any AI so checking on your estrogen levels will be good to do also with the bloods.
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trt User profile
yeah, as you stated its different for everyone. i run 200mg of cyp a week, but my levels are really high. 100-150 is a good dose. Ive manipulated my labs and timing to get my dr to give me 200 so 100 is prob more realistic for health over time.
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The North User profile
Trt is deisgned to replace normal funciton and levels. so youd need to get your blood work down, and adjust your dose accordingly to find out what works best for you. 150mg a week sounds like a good place to start.
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Beast Mode User profile
im on trt year round and cruise at 100mg a week, occasion up my dose to 200mg for a few months, and blast at 500-600mg.
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Kbird User profile
it sounds like you have already been running 125mg a week as trt. get your levels done 3-4 days after you inject, and try to keep your test between 500-800.
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Turducken User profile
id suggest you go lower at keep your trt around 100-150mg and go higher if needed.
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Bitcoin noob here again lol… so I just saw that the bit got accepted to 24roids and it`s $2 short of what my order was. Should I send that money to the new bit address that is in my order area ?
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Bswole User profile
I have always orderd using money gram and i have never had a problem. I just completed my 11th order with no hangups. The only thing people dont like is that u have to wait a couple days for them to pick up the money. Mine alwaye was picked up in 3 buisnes days or less.
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Noob User profile
Contact support they are helpful and could adjust it to be $2 short.
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Chris User profile
Contact support and let them know the price adjusted when transferring the funds. They should accept your as is and process through.
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john User profile
You will probably end up paying more than 2 dollars to send it . Follow as suggested above.
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Kbird User profile
I`ve underpaid and over paid and support always help make it right, and convenient.
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MikeM User profile
They will let you know.. I`ve had them do both but basically when the status updates after pending and then waiting approval, if it says paid/processing, they don`t care about the remaining balance and are letting you slide. If they want the balance ($2 in your case) it will update to semi-paid, in that case they want the balance and yes make the payment through the new bitcoin address provided on that orders page. I`ve had them do both, you kinda just have to wait and see but it shouldn`t be too long. Tip for the future it`s always best to send a little extra with bitcoin since the USD value can change pretty quickly, however if it does come up short like yours did there is no harm done and once the status updates it will be processed like normal. Bitcoin is best in my experience and the 10% off is cool but they essentially give it to cover the cost of purchasing it and the possibility of its value fluctuating a little.
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contacted 24roids about shipment issue. they told me that their warehouse promised them a shipment this week! figured id let ya know!
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey 199, thanks for the update. Would have been nice to have more context since I have no idea what previous post this is referring to. Glad that 24roids took care of it and I knew they would. I always give them 7 business days before opening a ticket. Thanks for the question
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Big Dogg User profile
Hope that`s true. I see some suppliers elsewhere starting to ship. I dont know if anyone knows when China will return to normal. Many people are unable to work due to quarantines. The whole supply chain and shipping is messed up at the moment.
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Anubis1027 User profile
Shipping has been a little delayed since corona virus. My pack took almost 2 weeks before it even updated with a tracking number that it was shipped. Be patient 24roids always comes through.
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Drol1 User profile
Thanks for the update brother!
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nickname_464 User profile
That sounds like good news. Thank you for the update. Good looking out!
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Barry Gibson User profile
Yes lol with these inside shipping issues etc only 24roids can answer adequately you see? I`m glad it`ll arrive sometime soon man!
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How many mg are in a 10ml vial?
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Yoshi User profile
This applies to all vials. Mg per ml x ml in vial… 250mg/ml x 10ml= 2500mg per vial
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Big Dogg User profile
There are 250mg/ml and there are 10ml in a vial. 250 × 10 =2500mg
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Yoshi is correct. It all depends on the dose per mg for each compound. Good luck
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RJB16 User profile
2500 mg per vial as stated it is always mg`s per 1 cc…
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nickname_835 User profile
For that it`s 250mg per 1 ml shot. Every brand is different and it`ll tell you in the discription of the product and most cases give you a break down of what in it. Like sust 270 have multiple compounds of test and it`ll tell you what it has per shot of each.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
2500mg. 10 cc and each cc has 250 mg. This is fairly standard for testosterone and you must not have known that test 250 means that each cc has 250 mg
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I just purchased two separate orders of T.cyp. One order came from the Ukraine and the color of the cypionate was clear and the same color as the test prop I also purchased. The second order came via Hong Kong and the test cyp has a yellow hue to it (the same color as some pharm grade cyp I have). My question is: are the colors of the compounds due to the carrier oil used? Or could I have (at worst) test prop being passed off as test cypionate (Ukraine)?Thanks chisel chests!
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Dromeo User profile
I`ve seen that before myself. I wouldn`t worry about it. No big deal.
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Josh Lamb User profile
Buy a test kit…………..
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Most likely it’s just the difference in carrier oil as you mentioned. Testosterone is so cheap to make and so widely used I don’t think there would be a reason a manufacturer would have to try to switch them, meaning, there’s plenty of people buying both Prop and Enanthate, so there’s not anything to gain from trying to pull a fast one. It would be different if we were talking swapping in Winstrol for Anavar.
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Big Dogg User profile
Testosterone is pretty colorless. The slight yellow tint is mostly the oil and can vary from brand to brand.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Shaft, the color is mostly the carrier oil. Tren is a distinct color but I`ve seen all different colors for every compound. It`s generally nothing to worry about and I trust 24roids has legit suppliers. Thanks for the question
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gear hair no User profile
not a problem it`s the oil they used but when dealing with ugl you never know… you will be fine
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I just purchased two separate orders of T.cyp. One order came from the Ukraine and the color of the cypionate was clear and the same color as the test prop I also purchased. The second order came via Hong Kong and the test cyp has a yellow hue to it (the same color as some pharm grade cyp I have). My question is: are the colors of the compounds due to the carrier oil used? Or could I have (at worst) test prop being passed off as test cypionate (Ukraine)?Thanks chisel chests!
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patsalos mixalis User profile
They just used different carrier oil sometimes not to worry
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traianos123 User profile
the colours are not the same because of the oil, i saw this before, your gear is good.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
I doubt it is test prop passed off as cyp. Both are pretty cheap to make and there is no point to pass one off as the other. As I said, it`s nothing to worry about. I`ve even seen pills from the same company come in different shapes, sizes and colors. UGLs aren`t so concerned with these things — just that the compound is chemically correct. Thanks again
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Unc33135 User profile
I agree it doesnt make any sense to pass prop off as cyp. They wouldnt benefit at all from that as test isnt expensive to make. Ive seen things like test being passed as primo because primo is so expensive. Its most likely just the oil. Not all test ive received has been the exact same tint. I wouldnt worry about it.
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bobby User profile
dont worry man i have 2 vials of the same eq different colours. carrier oil is the culprit
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
More then likely it`s the oil should be good to go
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I`ve been ordering Geneza Test Cyp for quite a while now. Every order has arrived clear in color. This is the first time my test cyp has arrived with a yellow tint (same product different batch of course). Does anyone know if Geneza products are made using different oils?
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Clay User profile
From what I`ve heard this is not uncommon from a UGL. It`s most likely a different carrier oil to what you`ve had before and should be g2g. They will use whatever they can to fulfill demand but usually stick to the same suppliers. Watch out for anything off, ie pip, sides.
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Papi1266 User profile
I have seen some color variations before, I mean if its extreme I would probably let 24roids know for a replacement. If you decide to use it just look for any different sides then usual. Good luck
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Drew User profile
It`s most likely just a different oil used. I wouldn`t worrying about it at all. Geneza product are always top notch
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BigOlRed User profile
They might have switched up the oils but I would not worry I never doubt geneza they are all that I use
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Bobby User profile
This has happened to me before using Geneza. Same product but looks different. 24roids is top notch and wouldn`t send any bad batches. I wouldn`t sweat it but send a ticket to customer service to get their opinion it. They are always on point
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nickname_464 User profile
That`s a first for me, GP has always been my got to as well And I`ve never had them be anything but clear. I have received Biomex labs that have been a slight yellow but not GP, unless it was their Amdromix or Tren. Best of luck mate.
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I usually always use Geneza Pharma and I`m starting to run out of testosterone. It says Geneza brands along with a handful of others won`t ship tell after Feburary 3rd which is like a month away due to the chinese new years. I will be out of test by then does anyone have good experience with another brand on this site that will ship sooner? I`ve never tried any other brands on this site.
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Luke Claydon User profile
You might wanna try one that ships from the EU, maybe, depending on where in the world you are. I have heard only good things about Aaster, they have a good selection of gear too.
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William Maloney User profile
I`ve used Aster a few times and I`m actually on Aster test e right now and I like it. Shipping has always been decent with them
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nickname_835 User profile
Order ones from Europe, they usually clear customs quicker for one. And I`ve heard good things about the brands from there as well.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Try Aster, Rus Bio or Hilma to get gear quicker at this time. Good luck
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Unc33135 User profile
To be honest whether i order a brand from Europe or one from Asia, they all typically arrive in the same time frame. Some say the ones from Europe are faster but that hasn`t been the case for me. Its your only chance tho since like you said those other brands arent shipping until February. Use bitcoin as payment. Thatll cut a few days off your arrival time as crypto processes within an hour.
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Scozz User profile
I`ve heard that aster solutions is the way to go from Europe based product. I`m in the same boat myself but slightly worse. I`ve had an order tied up since dec 15 in Ukraine and have to wait til the 24th for 24roids to do anything like a store credit or a reship and all my gear was supposed to be coming from labs where Chinese New Year is now going to be in effect. So that would leave me almost two month out before even possibly getting a shipment started…kind of a bummer. I`m going to try aster myself in the next day or two to get a cycle started until my large order is figured out, but from what I have heard from quite a few people and reviews I would try aster solutions.
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Can I mix Test Cyp 250mg with Tren Enth 200mg total of 2ml/cc in the same syringe? I am planning two weekly injections Sun and Weds in each delt weekly.
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Mr.Kim User profile
Oil and oil is a go. Water and oil is a no go. Many 500mg per 1ml items can be mixed down with 100mg, 200mg to lower PIP.
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Mike Oxlong User profile
You can definitely pin the two together. Although unless you have some monster delts, 2ml is alot of oil to shoot into your delts without some leakage. Glutes would be a better choice for injections if you`re planning on pinning 2ml.
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BradO User profile
That`s a lot of Tren. If you haven`t ran Tren before you should dial it back.
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RJB16 User profile
Yes you can definitely do that but 2 cc in delts is a lot unless you are splitting them also…
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Siggs User profile
Like others said, oil can be mixed with oil. You might want to use your glutes for a pin site. Delta can only usually handle 1 ml with minimal pip.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
You can put in same syringe, but you`re going to likely want to pin it in the glute or quad. 2ml is a bit much for the delt. If you`re new to tren, may want to consider Tren Ace and pin low dose EOD to assess Tren sides. Some get a lot, some get none. Also make sure you have some caber for the tren on hand.
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one more question about trt what is the highest test level that a dr will usally keep you at. thank you all for your answeres to my last question.
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Ronald Bobby User profile
Mine is at 850 but they also look at free testerone levels they look for a percentage I believe like 25%
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Tomas Bee User profile Expert
From what I have read, target level for testosterone ranges from 350 to 750 ng/dl, but they are going to look at multiple metrics like free test etc as another person indicated.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey 50, I would think a doctor would want you in the normal range which in the US is 250-1100 ng/dL according to my blood work. Probably closer to the middle around 500. Thanks for the question
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traianos123 User profile
Why u want to involve a doc so much man? why to prescribe u trt? buy your stuff and do what u want to do, simple as that, i dont understand u
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Dromeo User profile
In general, the normal range in males is about 270-1070 ng/dL with an average level of 679 ng/dL. Testosterone levels above or below the normal range are considered by many to be out of balance
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JB205 User profile Expert
Depends on the Doc and what type of clinic. I go to a rejuvenation center and they manage bodybuilders and other sports competitors so they really just monitor blood work
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im going to try to get my dr to put me on trt but if he wants to do bloodwork once a month wats he gonna say when im blasting a cycle and my test level is above 1500. thats as high as labs go in my area. bunt wont he cut me off?
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Cyclone User profile Expert
That is definitely going to be an issue, and any competent doctor is going to know that you are augmenting. Having said that, I don`t think your MD will order monthly blood results beyond the first couple of months where they would be assessing your levels etc. If your intent is to blast and cruise, why bother with getting a script for TRT? Personally I would just get blood work myself over the internet, and go on TRT when you are too old or done with cycling, as you will prob need it by then.
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Gman User profile Expert
I would suggest just run the trt. If you want to cycle why not add a differnt compound for gains keep yest at the level the doc wants and add tren or eq or what ever cycle with those and you will have no worries
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey 50 Cal, this is a good question and something I`m going through now. I keep doing blood work at the TRT clinic and testing out of range even when I tried to let the esters get out of my system. I stopped all test for 3 weeks and still tested over 1000 (max). I`m not sure what my doctor is going to do. He may cut back the dosage and keep having me come in once a month to see what happens. I tell them I`m busy and can`t come in and kinda put it off for a few extra weeks but I still have no definitive answer on what he is going to do. He has me taking 100mg every monday but when I got the prescription from the pharmacy it was for 200mg/week so push come to shove I`m going to blame it on them and they will probably get right with the pharmacy on 100mg/week. I`ll still test of range. I`d imagine if that keeps happening he`ll stop prescribing. Will update when I have more info. Thanks for the question.
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Melvinator User profile
He will definitely cut you off. Better off just running test from 24roids because your dr will just keep you within normal range for your age.
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Ronald Bobby User profile
I believe they will cut you off I`m on trt now it started off testing every month for the first 3 months now its every 3 months. My recommendation is to use test suspension if you don`t care to inject twice a day just be run it for a couple weeks at a time to see how well that goes
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Hiker001 User profile
I would do just take the TRT dosage and add in another extra. He will definitely know something is up, once he gets the blood panel back.
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Hey guys, will be doing 500mg of test cyp for my next cycle along with a couple of other compounds. I have some prop left over from my last one and wanted to use it as a front load at 100mg/eod until the 500mg of cyp kicks in. I understand that I can front load the cyp but I would like to get rid of the prop. So my question is, how long would I run the prop until the cyp starts to kick? Thank you in advance
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey DC, you can take a look at blood levels rising and falling on steroidcalc dot c o m. For me, cyp usually starts to level out around week 4. You said you have some prop left over so why not just use that until it`s gone then continue with cyp? I use test E or cyp twice a week and test suspension every day as preworkout just FYI. Thanks for the question.
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Dromeo User profile
How much of the prop do you have left? If you have less than a bottle use it all to front load. If you have more just run it together with the cyp.
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voodoo User profile
TestP kick in about 2 weeks. I pin testE and that`s how I do it too. TestP for 3 weeks and stop. It all preference. You don`t need to do that.
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nickname_629 User profile
+1 for the steroidcalc website, It’s specifically designed to understand blood levels when combining multiple compounds with different esters.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
About two to three week is enough until the test c kicks in. Steroid calc is a good place to pay with different compounds and get to know esters and how they work.
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JB205 User profile Expert
Run the prop 2 to 3 weeks, that`s enough time for the long ester props to take effect in your system.
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When it says 1 vial (10mL( 250mg/mL) does that mean it contains 10 doses of 250mg? or does it just have 1 250mg shot?
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skitt User profile
Yes, It has 10 doses of 250 mg PER ML… so 10 ml=10 doses
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Drew User profile
It mean you get 10mls each ml has 250mgs of test in it. So ten shots my friend.
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Hiker001 User profile
Yes 10 doses In a vial
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
1cc of it is 250mg. It has 10cc`s in a bottle.
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Lorddrip User profile
It`s doses at 250 a pin and less doses if it`s a lower dose say 150 per shot and 300weekly good luck bud
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John Rambo User profile
Whenever it says that dosing is by ml. In this case 250mg per ml. You can do math from there to get the correct dose for you. Good luck man
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Dosage help needed. I am on TRT. My tested test levels where 353 and 9 free. I started dosing 100 mg x2 per week. I just retested bloods and my test was greater than 1500 and my free is 49.9. WOW! This is some good gear. I am injecting .4 of a 1 cc hypodermic needle. Isn’t that 100 mg? 1 ml/cc = 250 mgs right?
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Lorddrip User profile
Yes your math is correct bud I currently am I on cycle tho about 350mg weekly it`s going good as well good luck and keep lifting bud
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John Rambo User profile
Sounds like you have the math dosing down. 353 is not terrible low for test and 200mg is on the high end for trt. You just really need to put enough test in you to mimick what your body would produce. I would bring it down to 125mg per week and see where your at then. You could inject once a week at .5ml. Good luck man
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skitt User profile
Yes, that sounds correct to me buddy… It can be confusing at times lol got some good numbers going there… so good to go, train hard and enjoy.. good luck bro
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
I`ve been on same cruise cycle. 200mg a week test C. Yes 0.4ml 2x week. Are you wanting just to stay at TRT dose? I prefer to blast and cruise. Been on a TRT dose for about 10 weeks and will begin blast later this week. 500mg test enanthate x 14 weeks, EQ 400mg/week x 14 weeks and 50mg/day dbol x 1st 4 weeks. Let us know your goals so we can assist better
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patsalos mixalis User profile
125 to 50 would be more ideal but without bloodwork you won’t know. You are right about injection amount
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BABA User profile
The math is correct. I`m glad someone on this forum knows how to do basic math. Sometimes I worry for some of these people.
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I just received my cyp and I did a roidtest and it tested yellow for propionate. Not brown for cyp. The other vial test positive (purple) Can Anyone offer any advice?
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Tren_for_everybody User profile Expert
Roid tests are not accurate. I trust gp more than any roid test on the market,l. Geneza has A reputation for being consistent over the years
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K.D.T User profile
These test ate realy sensitive you have to make sure you don`t put to much oil in or it could mess up the results to much oil could have made it come up dark yellow making it look brown it would make no sense for any manufacturer to sell prop as cyp as they cost virtaly the same to make either one
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Anonymous 467 User profile
Yeah man i would not trust this test that you got. Geneza is a legit manufacturer. If you really have doubts you could open a ticket with 24roids but i would ride it out and trust your source. Good luck bro
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Skuchie User profile
Geneza is a very reputable product. I`d be more apt to attribute this to the strips being ineffective or user error, before I believed Geneza put Testosterone Propionate in a Cypionate Vial.
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Matthew User profile
I hear you brother but color strips are never accurate. Or consistence. I highly doubly GP put there reputation out there like that with not accurate products. I would put in a ticket at 24roids and see what GP would say. In this business it`s all reputation and quality. I m curious what`s the explanation is. Maybe we will get a HPLC lab test out of it.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Huh, strange. Well I`m no expert on roidtest and have no opinion either way. I have heard they are fine but nevr used or researched them. but I will now. A few things come to mind, #1 I have made both cyp and prop while working in a compounding pharmacy and I remember that the raw ingredients were very similar in price as long as I stuck with the same company. If i ordered from a company in say Germany as opposed to china there would be flucuations, but that isnt really the point. the point im making is why would a company switch those knowingly and loose credibility when they are not making any additional money. Also I`m assuming all your vials are from the same lot number, if they are no company would switch things up in the middle of a lot or batch. I would suspect the test or your technique although not a lot you can really fuck up. I mean nothing else makes sense.
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So to my previous question I don’t think I specified myself clearly.. what I meant was AFTER my cycle AND AFTER my PCT do you all continue bulking? So after your done with cycle AND PCT do you all jusr maintain or continue bulking
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Anonymous 467 User profile
After cycle and PCT i try to cut some of the fat that i gained through bulking and pct. Even if i plan to continue bulking i cut a little fat first. I try to get myself ready to continue bulking and prep my next cycle. Good luck man
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Jason User profile
Being totally honest, I`m miserable after cycle and PCT. barely maintaining so I`m just training and. Eating protein until my bloods come back so I can start my next cycle. Lift as hard as you can and eat 1lb of protein for 1lb if body weight
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Matthew User profile
I just maintain. I know if I try to bulk it won`t be the same. Maintain. And stay healthy. This way the next cycle in 2 months it will be must easier to kick start my cycle. If you get fat and out of shape then you have to get back to shape before you get new gains. Get it?
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Me personally, I try to maintain or lean forward to the next cycle goals. If next cycle is lean, I will head in that direction. If I plan to bulk, I`ll start that. Mainly to get my diet inline with my goals.
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nickname_537 User profile
Maintain without adding additional fat however reduce fat. Lean up best you can but not lose muscle because the best bulk is after leaning up.
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile
You can continue to make progress through strict diet and training but it isn’t going to be the same as when you are on test
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So 150mg in a 3ml syringe is at the 1/2 mark or no I want to understand this right
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile
If you actually mean mg then it depends how many mg is each ml of solution. For example of something says 100 mg per ml then there is 100 mg of the compound in each ml of liquid. Different products have different concentrations per ml. In the test cyp you are referencing there is 250 mg of testosterone in each ml of liquid
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Almost. The 1/2 mark would be 125mg…You would need to go to the little line above that to be at 150mg per shot…..So think of it like this…This product contains 250mg for each mL (meaning the number “1” listed on the syringe)…half of that would be 125…..just math conversions. If you ever get confused (we all do sometimes) you can find a calculator on google for this. Good luck
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Jared User profile
What the last 2 guys said is what you should follow. The mg dosage depends on what you bought. If your stuff is 150mg, then the 1 on the syringe is a 150mg dose, if your got stuff that`s 300-500mg per dose then just do the math and subtract it on the syringe, worst case google it to be safe if your worried.
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BABA User profile
No. It is a 250 mg/ml vial so 150 mg would be 0.6 ml which is a little more than 0.5 ml on the syringe marks. Do more research before injecting.
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Gymr User profile
.6 would be 150mg since each ml is 250.. the line above 0.5 is what you want
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
150mg of a 250mg/mL solution would be 0.6mL in the syringe and it does not matter what size syringe you use. Just grab a calculator and put the amount in the vial over the amount you want and the number you come out with is what you want to use. Good luck.
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I do have a legit question for this I`m going to get 2 vials even at such a low dose I`m going to take should I still get arimidex Just in case it not worry so much
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novadesert007 User profile
I would have AI in hand if you see sides then take it. Lots of guys dont even need it. AI are cheap, do it and ease your mind if you want to
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Mr.smith User profile
Yes, always get arimadex just in case, better safe then sorry every time.
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anonymous255 User profile
Adex is tricky because you really need blood work to determine if you need it. You do not want to suppress your estrogen too much but you don’t want it too high. At 200mg you could need it but probably won’t. At 200mg to 300mg you will probably need at least .5mg every 3.5 days. Once you get beyond 400mg you probably need .5mg every other day. This is all guessing without seeing blood work. You will have to really know your body and adjust your adex as you go. To be safe I would start with at least .5mg every 3.5 days or on your injections days and then go from there.
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nickname_464 User profile
Yes you always want to have some type of AI on hand. Every body is different so you never know, but it`s better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. At the first sign of to much water retention or feeling like your nipples are puffy and or itchy not just really hard like over stimulated start at either a 1/2 or 1/4 tan every other day till symptoms subside. Best of luck mate.
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Fit_mom User profile
It`s not expensive so yes. If you dont have much experience with test good idea to have some just in case. Good luck
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skitt User profile
Yes you should pick some up just in case.. Just as the others have advise.. Eveybody body is different, some are sensitive to text and a low dose of around say 200 mg may give them sides and for some they my take up to 800 mg to 1 g and not have sides at all.. but better to be safe then sorry.. just get your blood work done along the way to make sure and see if you will even need it or not.. but always good to have on hand.. good luck
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I meant a stack but a stack would be throwing a ton a different compounds in the body correct I was thinking cyp 250 and then dbol 10mg but like I said I want to do it right for the first time I mixed trt up with doing a stack my fault but yeah everybody I had asked said don`t stack yet until you know how the cypionate reacts with the body and longislandbeast 0.5 out of a 1cc correct
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Matthew User profile
Sounds like you haven`t done any cycle before. Trt is no more than 200mg if testE or testCyp. Sounds like you want to pop it off so first cycle should be 200mg of testC per pin. Pin yourself twice a week. That`s 400mg per week. Cycle this at 12 weeks. Make sure you have arimidex and Nolva for estrogen control and gyno control. I doubt you get anything since it`s only 400mg per week. But you rather be ready just in case. See how that goes for 12 weeks and hit us up again. After 12 weeks you can drop down to 200mg per week. Subsequence cycles you can increase test dose. Do not stack anything with test until you are in your 4th cycle.
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baba User profile
Exactly. Only do a test cycle by itself for your 1st one. Don`t add anything else until you know how you react to it and it alone.
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novadesert007 User profile
You are right. Just do Test C for now. Twice a week, 1cc each time Monday morning and Thursday night. AI 1/2 3 times a week. Some people dont even need it. Have AI in hands. Start to think about PCT as well. Only test cycle you can just get clomid and good to go.
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Mr.smith User profile
Do test only for your cycle with a proper pct. think of it as a ladder, every cycle is a step on the ladder. Start at the bottom and work your way up. If you start at the top then there’s no more room left to move up.
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Beard User profile
I would do 250mg twice a week for at least 12 weeks.
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nickname_464 User profile
You are correct in only running the test to start with. Wait for the dbol till your second cycle. You`ll want to inject .5cc or 1/2ml twice a week for optimized blood levels. However since it`s your first time if you go with test cyp and not ethinate you can get away with once a week injections. In that case you`ll inject 1. cc or 1ml once a week into a large muscle, preferably your glutes. (Watch a how to video on utube) Always make sure to get a estrogen blocker like arimidex incase you start to hold to much water or start to develop gynomastia. At the first sign of either one take a half tab every other day. You can run this cycle for ten weeks to start and you`ll see amazing results compared to any over the counter supplements you can buy. At the end of your cycle start your PCT. (Look at 24roids pre designed stacks for PCT). Once you`ve finished PCT and you feel ready start again this time with dbol during the first 6 to weeks of your cycle. Make sure your getting adequate calories and training hard. Keep asking questions if your not sure. Best of luck mate.
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Ok so I have never tried trt before and I was wondering so 250ml bottle cyp 2 times a week what is the most common dose I always see 250mg weekly so what do you split that if I sound stupid my fault I just don`t get what iam suppose to inject like cc wise on the days I choose I`m 6 3 260ish 31 years old want to be lean and look awesome by the summer and want to do it right
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baba User profile
Do you want to do a steroid cycle or be on TRT for the rest of your life? There`s a difference. If you want a cycle then do 250-500 mg/week for 12-16 weeks. If you want to be on TRT for the rest of your life then do anywhere between 100-200 mg/week indefinitely. I would recommend getting baseline TRT blood test levels prior to doing anything. If you truly need TRT then blood tests will show that you do then a doctor will simply prescribe it to you. Don`t mess around with your body without doing more research.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
That Geneza testosterone is 250mg per mL and has 10mL in the vial which adds up to 2,500mg. If you want to take 250mg a week than use 0.5mL twice a week. Monday Thursday is good for me. You will lose a little so if you wanted to load your syringes to 0.6mL/0.5mL than you will definitely get the full 250mg. I will say that’s a little high for TRT although I’m not against it. You will probably get the same results from 200mg though. I say cruise at 150-200mg and blast from 400-500mg. That’s what works for my pops and he is 62 and in great shape with tons of energy. I get the SIS Labs Testex for him which is Testosterone Cypionate 200mg.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Ya try is for ever usually starting at 100mg per week the high end is 200mg per week. The goal is to get your levels at high normal at least for me. Not if your talking about a cycle I would say 1cc per week of your cup. That`s is 250mg per ml. Per week. At this dosage your testosterone will be super natural. Most will say 500mg for first time rightly so. But every one has different goals. If your wanting a leaner muscular look for summer I would do the low end at 250mg per week. Eat at maintence calories, oh ya if your gonna dive into anabolics diet becomes way more important, for health and the look you want. Counting calories and macro s is a must to accomplish your goals. Even at maintence calories for first cycle at 250mg per week you will put on muscle and lean out if you go at a slight deficit say 250 calories below maintence per day even better results for leaness. Please do more reserch on the net before you make your decision anabolics arr for the lifers, who are I it for the long haul not just to look good for summer then quit lifting. You will end up doing more damage to tour self
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Dr Scott User profile
ok remember this is HRT, the r meaning replacement. You are just trying to approach the levels you would have had at say 25, this is very different then running a cycle where you are trying to keep superhuman levels for longer periods to increase muscle mass and or atheletic performance. That being said most HRT regimes are 150mg to 300mg once a week or every two weeks. You should not be injecting yourself multiple time a week for HRT, the quality of life improvements like energy level and libido are nothing hort of amazing for older gents and probably noticed within 3 weeks
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A.B User profile
Trt is usually no more than 200mg a week. A cycle would be around 250-500 if it`s a first. They would be split usually in two shots per week.
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nickname_464 User profile
Regardless if you choose to run a cycle or go on trt forever you`ll want to consider a estrogen blocker. Decide which you want to do and keep asking questions. 24roids is a great place for learning too, may want to check out one of their pod cast as well. Best of luck mate.
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Hey guys. I started using GP Test Cyp. 12 days ago and have been pinning twice a week, Thurs. and Mondays. My question is how long does it take to feel effects from cyp? I have read different answers online, anywhere from 8 days to 8 weeks. I have used GP Sust 270 and it worked fast and worked great, so I have full confidence in the cyp. Just curious as to how long it takes to kick in and if I should even be feeling anything at all from it yet? Thanks for the help yall.
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Joe shit da ragman User profile
Every one is different don`t work GP is a great lab 24roids wouldn`t have them on here if they were not good to go. U should start feeling it by the second week. That is how long it takes for me. Good luck with your cycle bro
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omeed haji User profile
Hello . Most of test work at 4-5 weeks it kick about that time more quickly than Deca and any other steroids but oral work faster like dbol work at the first week
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Swoleville User profile
It will take at least 2 weeks to create stable blood levels.
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Fit_mom User profile
First you haven`t identified the dose your taking. When my husband started test enanthate he went 500mg per week. He didnt “feel” anything that was like that`s it the test hit. It was over a couple of weeks that changes took place. His mood was the first change. He was no longer depressed after a week. The libido kicked in about 2 weeks later and the muscle growth and fat lose started to be noticeable about a month later. He noticed a strength increase about a week and a half after the first pin. Now when he is in cycle in just test his libido is up, strength and gains are up. He doesn`t use an ai since he is a lucky one that doesnt get gyno or water retention. His diet controls his water and bloat if any. He cruises at 100mg a week and his mood is his biggest joy. Good luck
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Unc33135 User profile
Id say roughly 2 to 3 weeks to start seeing results. I never got any feeling from it. Maybe some side effects ill start to notice but not like any kind of rush or physical high
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N88 User profile
How much are you taking? for doses around 500 mgs a week it will take 3 to 4 weeks to start feeling the effects….5 to 6 weeks to be at max blood levels
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How long does it usually take for GP products to ship? Is it fairly fast been awhile since I have ordered thru 24roids.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
I live in California and my gp orders usually get delivered in 2-3 weeks from the order date. European ugls ship the quickest usually 1-2 weeks from the order date.
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nickname_556 User profile
Shipping varies and sometimes it`s in in 10 days some times 4 weeks but typically it`s only takes 2-3 weeks
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Mike March User profile
East coast USA and it took about 2 weeks from when it was shipped. Europe will most likely have the fastest ship times
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Swoleville User profile
I`m on the east coast and I typically get my gp products in 2-3 weeks
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Once shipped, the Geneza products took about 7-10 days to arrive to Europe for me.
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Nick Naymes User profile
Some solid answers already, but keep in mind that shipping may be delayed a few extra days when ordering a promo or “ product of the week”, as the warehouse can be overwhelmed with orders.
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To add to my previous question this isnt my first cycle want to burn fat so thought I would mix in with the test C n Dbol. I as always I have pct on hand.
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Joe Hodgins User profile
That makes more sense lol. Have you taken clen before? Dosaging for males is anywhere from 20mcg-120mg. Start at 20mcg a day and work your way up to 100-120mcg and then work your way back down all over a period of 2 weeks. I always take 10mcg’s my first day back on clen when it’s been a while just to make sure I can still handle it and the gear is g2g. Be careful with clen and taking it too long or at too high of a dosage because it can really mess your heart up
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Neiraje User profile
Clenbuterol is a stimulant. Not an steroid so you should be good with that combo. Good to hear you’re not a first timer nc I agreed with the bro’s on sticking to just Test. Better to use some Anavar or Winny for about 5 weeks to cut
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nickname_678 User profile Expert
Try albuterol instead. It`s available here in 24roids. It`s less harsh version of clen based on all the things I`ve heard and read online
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Tyler philbrook User profile
Clen worked amazing for me although it made me really shaky. I havent used it since because i have heard it bad for you heart so Since then i have stuck to winstrol.
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anonymous255 User profile
Clen will work fine for burning fat. Make sure your estrogen is in check with the test and dbol because it will be much harder to get lean with high estrogen. I’m not a huge fan of using dbol when getting lean. I have done it before. What I like to to do is run a low dose of winstrol throughout the day and then us my dbol as a preworkout. I run my test at 250mg a week when doing this. This is a great recomp cycle. I prefer ephedrine over clen personally because clen makes me shaky. I suggest to start at a very low dose and work up slowly.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
DUDE EAT RIGHT!! Stop relying on supplements. It`s so easy yet no one wants to put in the effort. Separates the boys from the men. EAT RIGHT
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I plan on running 500 mg a week 1cc sun/thurs how much clen and Dbol 50 mg should I run with it for crazy gains?
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
Just 1 dbol 50 ed. I wouldn`t add clen with that as you will have bloating and clen is for cutting and won`t increase your muscle gains much.
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Joe Hodgins User profile
Clen is not for gains in any way. Clen is used to burn fat and will have zero effects on strength/size. If you run the dbol, run it at 50mg every day. You could split the dosage if you’d like, half in the morning and half an hour before workout but it’s not a must with dbol
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Huey User profile
Dbol will put gains on quickly. 50 ED is accurate like the bro’s above stated. Clenbuterol has been observed to both increase muscle mass and reduce body fat. Good cycle. Mix in some Anavar or Primo for quality muscle.
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Thronesmelt User profile
If this is your first cycle then you should definitely not be running either clen or dbol. You should only run test e or c for 8-10 weeks. You can run 500mg per week but generally lower is better (250-400mg per week) to see how you and your body reacts. As others have stated clen is 100% not an aas. It is meant for cutting. It works on beta 2 receptors and makes you more jittery and hyperactive and increases core body temp to burn more calories. Dbol is good as a bulking agent and comes with strength but as an oral can be liver toxic. It also can aromatize and does add water weight so you should have some anti estrogens on hand. If you have never run it before again less is more and see how you react. You can always go up in dosage. I would start with 25-40 mg a day and go from there on top of the test as a base. Make sure you have your pct on hand when you come off. Nolva, clomid, and hcg. Good luck!
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N88 User profile
Clen won`t give you crazy gains. If this is the first time just do test. Dbol kick at 50 mgs a day for a month is good
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Anon14 User profile
Sounds like your first cycle, if so just run test only at 4-500mg with biweekly injections. Some of the best gains I ever got was my first cycle at this dose. Get some adex and take .5mg 2x weekly. Save the evil and Clen.
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Just seeing if I`m doing my math right.since this is 250 mg per ml and I just want 100 mg would that be .4 cc?
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Nashdaddy User profile
Yep. Your math looks good.
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Carlo User profile
Correct! 250ml would be 10 or 1.0 on syringe. .40 would be 100
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William Roche User profile Expert
Your math is correct brother.
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anonymous255 User profile
Yes.4cc is correct.
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Chief User profile
Yeah 4cc is correct
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
0.4 cc is correct, great quick maths.
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Something I totally forgot to ask on my last question was about keeping gains and size after cycle. My first cycle I started at about 145lbs and by the finish of first cycle I ended up at 165lbs. My second cycle I could say I started at about 160lbs and ended at about 180lbs, but this time it seems that I lost a lot of my size. I’ve gone from 180lbs and I’m already back down to 160lbs and seems I’ve lost a lot of my size which is upsetting. I do pct for 6 weeks with clomid and nolvadex also add N2Guard. Is there something more I could do to better keep my gains and help from losing so much of my size? Should I add a natural test booster into my pct next time? I’ve read mk-2866 and gw-501516 are really good during pct for keeping gains but I really don’t know much about those two sarms. Please any help on what to do to help keep my size and gains would be greatly appreciated.
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mchilds User profile
There are limitations to how much size people can gain and keep. We are all not Ronnie Coleman and will have limitations of what our body can handle. Having said that, the best way I keep my gains for the longest period is by doing longer cycle with lower amounts of test (less water retention) and using test prop along with low dose tren. Your body is most likely reaching it peak potential and wants to return to homeostasis. So eventually you will lose everything unless you continue cycling and working out forever. My suggestion is to get as in shape as you can and set yourself up to have a comfortable physique you can live with bc eventually you won’t want to work out and cycle everyday and will regret being 300lbs of muscle when u are 60yo.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Natural test boosters won`t do much. Also, the N2 Guard is not needed during PCT. What you could do is make your PCT work faster by incorporating hCG for the last 4 weeks of your cycle, stopping 3-4 days before the start of your PCT. This will keep your testes from atrophying, which speeds up the whole PCT. I`d avoid SARMs, they are supressive on its own as well. No such thing as a non-supressive selective androgen receptor modulator. You need to focus on your diet, make sure you are NOT eating below TDEE while on a PCT. It`s when your body is at its most catabolic state. Plenty of protein needed during this time. There is no way you will be able to keep 100% of the gains that you made on the cycle, but you can retain most of it if your diet and training is on point. Expect to lose weight though, always. Your weight is not a good indicator of gains, you`ll lose a lot of water that you`ve been retaining during the cycle once you`re into PCT. And lost water isn`t lost gains, even though it may look like looking at the scale.
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ROBERT User profile
You obviously know there will be some loss off the gains, its inevitable. By running your PCT properly, tapering the dosage off and adequate diet you can keep some of the gains.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
No natural test boosters are a complete waste of money. If you are actually serious about your gains you will cruise on a low dose of test between cycles. This is the best way to retain mass after your blasts.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
The reason you and everyone that cycles will lose gains is because of the hormone levels and nitrogen retention in your body, imagine on cycle your body is at the top of a roller coaster and when you come off your test is at the bottom or if you want to get precise most 4-500mg a week test cycles your test levels are gonna be 2k+ and off cycle your test is going to bottom out to 0 and then hopefully come back to normal levels from 300-800 depending on your age that’s a big difference, add in the water weight that “wet compounds” add you will always lose size cycling add in hcg during your cycle to help normalize your body quicker when you come off. Sarms will help you maintain a little of the added size cause they are androgen receptor stimulating, but you also run the chance of ruining you pct if your not exactly sure what your taking cause some sarms stimulates estrogen as well which is what we don’t want during pct, the only sure way to keep gains is to run trt after you cycle or what’s called a “blast and cruise” because your body is always operating on exogenous testosterone and never bottoms out to zero but this is a life long commitment unless there are health implications in which case coming off will be suffering greatly.
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Nick User profile Expert
Take HCG 250 iu while on cycle to keep the balls from sleeping, it makes pct smoother and you can add HGH during pct
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Need advise on dosage and a schedule when to take throughout the day.Test Cypionate, how many mg a week?EQ 200, how many mg a week?D-bol, only 4 weeks for kickstart how many mg a day and what time of the day is best if splitting the dosage.Proviron how many mg a day and what time of the day do I take?Deca, how many mg a week?Anavar, how many mg a day and what time of the day?How long should I run this cycle? I’ve been told when I stop the EQ I need to continue the test 2 weeks longer?Thanks for any help
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Take a second look at this whole cycle…side effect hell bro. Here`s a couple of ideas for you…..Test 300mg/wk. EQ 400-600mg/wk. You WILL NOT see EQ for 8 – 10 weeks so plan for a 16 week cycle. No need for Deca. with EQ, if running Deca instead 200 – 300mg/wk. If you use dbol, you can use it to kickstart your cycle or apply it in the middle. I wouldn`t run more than 40mg and for no longer than 4 weeks at the most…Seems like you`re trying to add size and maybe bulk (I`m assuming), so maybe consider proviron for another time. Get the meat-head “I must get big fast” mentality out of your head. It`s a marathon, not a sprint. Also, have an AI, SERM, and don`t be one of those people who doesn`t have the PCT at all. IT IS A MUST FOR ANY OF THOSE CYCLES MENTIONED. I can`t stress how important that is, but since you have not mentioned any of that in your post, I assume you have all of that as well. Having caber wouldn`t be a bad idea either. Understand less is more, and you it is so much easier to start low and increase rather than the other way around. Good Luck!
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Scott User profile
My dude. You need to hit google before you hit this cycle and the gym.
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mchilds User profile
No offense man but you can’t just ask us to write you a cycle plan without you doing the research first. That would be very dangerous for us to do as you need to do the research and come ask us what we think of the cycle so we can help you find tune it from our years of experience. Zach Got you started but you need to have a better plan and knowledge about what you were putting in your body. Also let us know what your goals are in your size and everything so we can get a better idea of which compounds would be best to use and for how long. I would also come up with a plan for AIs and PCT Because you won’t keep any of your games without making sure you have that in order as well.
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ViktorN User profile
Dang!!!! I got swole just reading your cycle!! 🙂 I hope this is not your first cycle and you just want to stack and go crazy. If you don’t have more than 4 cycles under your belt please dropped this cycle. Be patience. This is a long game my friend. From what I gathered, just do text and bold. Then add Var in the second half of this cycle. Test and bold will get you big. They can get you lean too. Var will definitely make you lean out. So bulk w test and bold. Then lean you yourself out toward the end w var. do a 16 weeks cycle. Test Cyp 200 per pin. Bold 150mg per pin. Pin yourself twice a week. On week 8 take 20mg of var in morning 20mg in the evening. So Total is 40mg a day. You take var everyday. I assume you have pct and AIs in your hands. Not knowing what you know this is my recommendation. Keep it simple. Keep it low dose (less is more like our colleagues stated). And good luck my friend!!
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nickname_537 User profile
Unless this is your 6th or 7th cycle as others stated this is too much. Just do 500mg testosterone per week, if you really want add equipoise at about 400mg-500mg weekly but equipoise must be run at least 4 months because it 8s very slow acting and takes a long time to kick in. Proviron is good for lowering shbg and that increases your steroid effectiveness as well as proviron blocks some estrogen (you never want most of your estrogen blocked because steroids work better with enough estrogen). Then drop the rest of the items man. I mean after you bulk up you can do anavar for cutting in a separate cycke or towards the last 6-8 weeks but in that case maybe add primobolan. But primo needs to be ran for at least 3 months itself so maybe you`re better off doing a second cutting cycle.
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Does anyone know what type of oil this is suspended in? I might have a mild cotton seed oil allergy that I have to account for now.
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Rye User profile
If it is clear which all gp test I have gotten is, I believe it’s mct oil, so coconut. I could be wrong but I thought most of these ug/overseas Labs use it because there is virtually no pip and they want your repeat business. Unlike big pharma companies that have a monopoly through prescriptions that just use the cheapest carrier oil possible because they don’t care about you getting pip, if you are on trt through a doc you are getting their test wether you like it or not.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Geneza won’t be cotton seed oil. MCT all the way. It’s high quality stuff.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
As previously mentioned, Geneza Pharmaceuticals gear is known for MCT oil so you shouldn`t have a problem.
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Anonymous User profile
All the GP products have pharma grade MCT carrier oil. Its very thing and almost colorless and pins super smooth
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
I have heard from multiple independent sources that Geneza uses MCT oil.
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John User profile Expert
MCT oil. If you are unsure, do a small test by injecting just a little bit subQ under your arm, and wait 12 hours to see what kind of reaction you`ll get.
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What happened to the comment about GP test that the pharm website said wasn’t valid. I have some GP gear on the way and now wondering if it will be legit or not.
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nickname_963 User profile
I have been ordering from geneza for several years with good results. I would not worry about it. I did see a post about GP anastrozol not checking out as valid on the geneza website. Best thing I can tell you is not to worry. When you get your gear enter the ISP number as directed on he website. If it is not valid for some reason, then contact 24roids with your concerns and they will make it right. I check mine all the time now and so far it checks out.
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Phillip Sweger User profile
Hello that was my question and I was wondering the sane thing, I think the admins took it down. I will say that 24roids has already responded to my ticket and I have sent them photos of everything, so just waiting now. Their original response said that it was due to a shipping error??. I also want to note that the Geneva website did say 24roids is a verified supplier. I`m much more hopeful it will be resolved than I was when first posting question. Good luck.
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SteveC User profile
I just received my 3 vials of Geneza test cyp 250 yesterday, as well as 2 packets of anastrozole and 2 packets of tbol, also from geneza. When I went to their website to verify them, I hot the verify button once and it said verified, then I hit it again and it said that it was not verified because someone else had already verified it before that. It happened because I had already verified it a few seconds before that. So I`m curious if the original poster of that question had accidentally double tapped the verify button or something like that. I have a very hard time believing 24roids sent anything that`s not legit, 24roids is truly amazing. If I were you, I would order with no worries at all. 24roids ALWAYS takes care of its customers.
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Tommie t User profile
That has happen to me as well you can only check the product one time for it to say real or authentic but after the first time it’s says not verified because someone has already verified this code. That must be what happen with that other guy and once 24roids figured out the problem took the negative false claim off there site.
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ViktorN User profile
I can personally say that GP is legit from 24roids! I used GP for over 10 years I haven’t had any issue with GP and their gear has always have me great result. As for 24roids I have also personally contacted 24roids customer service and they are fantastic! You place a ticket, explaining your issue along w evidence , and they took care of care. So rest assure my friend you can shop with confidence. Good luck!
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Geneza is definitely legit testosterone. I’m using some right now and gained 16lbs in the last month. I’ve never heard a bad review for Geneza, Dragon or SIS in my time here and having used those three and Aaster I can tell you they are legit brands. As had been said on this site many times 24roids wouldn’t sell bunk gear. If they did it would be instadeath for their website considering how many competitors are out there. But I have always like Geneza quality and have never had a problem with them. Currently using their TestE/EQ combo bottle along with TrenE plus Proviron. All seem to be doin a great job.
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I placed order on 5-6-19 and submitted payment through Money Gram on 5-6-19. As of right now it says waiting for approval? I feel like I`m getting the run around so they won`t honor sale price. Has any one else had this problem? Thank you for your time and have a great day filled with heavy weights and protein farts!
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Beard User profile
That`s a standard time frame with money gram. If you want a much faster processing time, use litecoin or bitcoin. Usually updated the same day. As for the sales, as long as you paid before the sale end date it doesn`t matter when they process it, they honor the sale.
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Carl User profile
Yeah my order has taking longer than usual this time round, my stuff was also on sale and i still only payed sale price, i hear bitcoin is a better way to pay faster and less hassle
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Will User profile Expert
That`s about the standard time when you use Moneygram from my experience. It does take longer. Bitcoin or Litcoin is processed same day and saves you 10%. I haven`t used Moneygram since getting Coinbase for those transactions. Much faster! I`ve never had an issue with 24roids whether buying sale items or full price. I don`t think they need to worry about nickle and diming people when you`ve been around and are as bug as 24roids is.
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ViktorN User profile
Rest assure my friend. 24roids is legit!! They put the customers first! I have experience this myself. As for approval. Money gram and western union they take forever! A week or a week and a half is Standard. That’s why I switch to Litecoin payment method. Download Coinbase app on your phone and following instruction to Buy litecoin or bitecoin once you have coins in your Coinbase wallet and send money, approval is within hours!! As for sale price you Will get the sale price with you paid. 24roids with honor it. Don’t worry my friend. So the only thing you need to worry is will your gear pass customs. Just joking! 🙂 good luck my friend !
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Money gram? Do you also ride a horse and buggy? Get with the times. Crypto is the only way to fly. Keep in mind people are (literally) gearing up for summer, so there’s probably a massive influx of orders right now, it’s 24roids, be patient.
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J.P. User profile Expert
That`s not an uncommon time frame. I`ve had similar situations where I took longer than I should have to get a payment in. They still honored the sale price. Though I`d guess that if a payment wasn`t submitted before the sale price expired you`d be stuck paying regular price.
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I am on my second cycle of test cyp 500mg a week. My very first cycle I did 500mg a week of test cyp for 20 weeks which I was told was to long to run. My question is how long should I run my second cycle which I am on now? I am on week 11 right now and can’t decide if I should do 12 weeks or 16? I plan to add in EQ with my Test Cyp on my next cycle and was told to run the EQ for 12 weeks only and finish out until week 16 with my Test Cyp. I was kinda thinking about also adding Deca into my next cycle with Test Cyp and EQ, any advice about that?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
It is really a good idea to get bloodwork done mid cycle for this very reason. I`m sure you will be fine going 16 weeks of just test but I am not a doctor and don`t know you. Yes it is fine to add in Deca and EQ on your next cycle.
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Will User profile Expert
20 weeks is rather long. Since you`re just running Test on this cycle, call it at 12 or 16. Maybe 12 so you can recover faster for your next run. EQ is a very slow acting substance and it`s really just kicking in around week 12. EQ you want to run for longer. I`d say no less than 16 weeks. You can run your Test for the same duration and then jump on PCT 2 weeks later. Deca and EQ stack well for a massing cycle. Keep the doses of deca low since it`s your first time running(200-300mg) and you can run EQ a bit higher at 400-500mg.
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Gregarious User profile
20 weeks is long. I agree with the other folks. Keep it 12-16 weeks max. Even with the proper ancillaries, a 20 week test cycle is going to shut you down hard, and it will take your body longer to recover with more unwanted sides. I do not see any extra gains after 16 weeks, but diminishing returns that are not worth dealing with. Stick to 12-16 weeks with proper pct and time off. The juice will not be worth the squeeze after that(pun intended).
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Dean Pichette User profile
You didn`t mention anything about a PCT. Are you going to run a PCT cycle. Are you blasting and cruising? Are you on TRT? All these these things matter with the length of time you should run a cycle. If you do run a PCT cycle, it will be a lot harder to recover from if you run a 20 week cycle. Keep in mind 26 weeks is half a year. 12 week cycles seem to be the norm, and makes it easier to run a couple of cycles a year this way with proper recovery. But . . . . . . . . . if you are blasting and cruising, or on a TRT dose, this is a different ball game. Goodluck
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
AI? PCT? SERM? You`re already far enough in this cylce to consider adding anything to it. 12 weeks is plenty, give yourself atleast 3 – 4 months before jumping on anything. Next time, try running test at 300mg. LESS IS MORE TRUST ME. You will get the exact same results with less chance of sides and you`ll save some money. If you add EQ next cycle, the minimum time I would run the compounds are 16 weeks. Test C 300mg per week, EQ can be ran higher (500mg – 600mg) each week as it is mild. Choose one or the other. Personally I would not run EQ and Deca. Why would you? I get it, you want to get BIG QUICK. . . . . just take the process slowly and enjoy QUALITY gains over time. You only have one body, and it will thank you later. TRUST ME! Hope this helps and you make the right decision. . . . . but it`s your life 🙂
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ViktorN User profile
20weeks is on the long side. 12 weeks is on the short side. I would recommend you go with 16 weeks cycle on Cyp. Third cycle when you add EQ. (It’s on sale now. Half off Product of the Week) 16 weeks is perfect. EQ takes about 4 weeks to kick in. But once it kicks in it will give you a great pump. And since it’s you first EQ pin I would go low dose. Then bring dose up in your future cycle. 200mg to 300 my a week. Some of our 24roids colleagues recommend even lower dose like 100mg to 150mg a week. You don’t need much for first timer. So finish this cycle with 16 weeks of Cyp only Take your pct. when you are ready. Stack both Cyp and EQ together. Cyp at 250mg and EQ at 100mg in one pin. I like to keep it simple, pinning every 3 days. Pinning twice a week on 7 days could get confusing. Keeping blood level evenly through the cycle is important. Another good thing about EQ is that it’s basically have no sides especially at the dose I m recommending. All you need to worry about is the test Cyp sides. Tamoxifen and Clomid for PCT. hope that helps. Good luck my friend!!
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So I`ve been using this for about 4 weeks now (two injections per week) @ 1ml each injection and haven`t noticed any difference really. This is my first cycle so I`m unsure if you ever “feel” a difference. My training is good and diet is pretty solid as well. I`m 6`2“ 230lbs around 16% body fat. My question is is the dosage okay? 500perweek? Or is 4 weeks not long enough to notice anything?
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Will User profile Expert
500mg of test should for sure be yielding some noticable effects. You should notice a steady increase in weight and reps from week to week if your training is properly dialed in. Your diet also needs to be on point for growth, meaning you`re eating in a calorie surplus and a lot of protein. Are you tracking calories and macros?Steady strength and rep increases. Better pumps and fullness. More natural energy. These are all things you should notice. If you`re younger, you`ll have had naturally high levels of test already, so you might not notice anything from a “feeling” standpoint.
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smithpress User profile
Please give it at least 2 more weeks. You should start feeling more erections and increased thought of having sex. I think you will be ok. You need to continue this cycle for at least 12 to 14 weeks and the last 4 weeks throw in some winstrol to shed the water weight and show off your new muscle.
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mark User profile
different people react different ways to different gear. I have found even myself have reacted different to how i have before. It has taken me 6wks sometimes,dont worry,500mg/wk for your first cycle will be great fun and more than enough. dont worry and dont change your dosage,it will be enoughjust eat plenty and train hard. my first ever cycle will always be remembered as my best. good luck
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Doseage is absolutely perfect for a first cycle. Many first time users experience this, you expect to “feel” something different or get a head change, but this isn`t really the case. Testosterone cypionate takes 4-6 weeks to take effect, and I can tell its working when I get some of the tell tale side effects (oily forehead, increased libido, weight gain from water held in the muscles, etc). By week six you should see stregnth increases and physique changes. This is why I get confused when people run 6-8 weeks cycles. .. . at that point you are essentially just getting into the truly productive part of the cycle. 12-14 weeks cycles are better, and if you are already shutting down your system, you might as well reap the benefits.
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Big E User profile
Give it another week and you will notice a difference. For some people it may take a bit longer to start noticing strength and size increase. By now you should probably be noticing a change in libido at least. I usually start noticing changes around 3 weeks with test cyp but everyone responds differently to every compound. Consider maybe running Sustanon for your next cycle and take advantage of the shorter esters that will kick in a little faster. Good Luck
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Tren Man User profile
Test Cyp typically take at least 4 weeks to build up in the system. You should see difference after week 6.
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I have been taking 1. 5 ML of this cypianate twice a week. I also eat well and train 5 days a week, but not seeing the results I expected. Should I be taking more often or should I be taking some thing different. My goal is to have great vasculaity and muscularity
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GainsVille_85 User profile
You’re probably holding water and it’s covering up your gains. That dose is high enough you should be using an AI. Doing so will eliminate the bloat and help lean you out.
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ROBERT User profile
Try adding winstrol to your stack. Eat more calories while staying clean with food and bump up you calisthenics. Good luck
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N88 User profile
750 a week is alot. How long have you been taking it? It takes a few weeks to kick in all the way. Also test isn`t really used for cutting or vascularity. Formulate a stack next time that will give you the results you`re looking for.
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Cory Blackford User profile
If your looking for vascularity and muscularity then you need to incorporate Trenbolone and oral Winstrol into the mix with your cyp. Cyp alone is used more for bulking and strength gains. If you`ve never use Trenbolone start very light at first maybe 100 MGs a week for 2 weeks then 200 MG for 2 to 4 weeks. Your Winstrol will help tremendously with your vascularity if your body fat is low enough to show it. Good luck.
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Archangel User profile
As they have stated. That much test depending on how long you have been taking it. You will have water weight and bloat. We all get it. Start on Anastrozole . 5mg every other day. Then you will see if you need to add more. I`ve not tried Tren shots yet but you probably should add a low dose of tren and winny. Give it time and you will see the gains. They are there even though you can`t see them.
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ltl trucker User profile
What is your BF%? If you`re double digits you`re not going to get the results you are looking for. Steroids are only as good as your diet and training. You didn`t mention how long you have been taking Test Cyp, as its a long ester version, it will take longer to see benefits than test prop. I would say, stay with what you`re doing. Concentrate eating clean and training hard. You will get there and see great results just from the amount of Test Cyp you are taking
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I`ve been taking 3 mils per week and not experiencing muscular or vascular growth. I also work out with a trainer 4 times per week. Should I increase dosage?
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Muscle Pup User profile
What’s your diet look like? Are you eating enough? You have to fuel your growth. Also, it’s not clear if you’re taking 3cc per week or in every shot (and how often). 3cc per shot multiple times a week would be a lot and I wouldn’t increase your dosage. I’d suggest eating more and lowering the dosage
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Robert Barry User profile
Eat more Eat clean and be more clear on gear dosage. ..
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Gabriel Hernandez User profile
How far into your cycle are you is the main question I believe test cHas the slowest release ester so you should be starting to get “pumps”At about week 4 depending on your how your body reacts, also if you don’t plan on getting blood workYou will run into issues later
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D-man User profile Expert
That is 750mg per week of Test. No one with proper diet and training should have a problem putting on muscle at that dose. You have to give it time. Also, a lot of trainers tend to take it easy on you. You need to go to failure with every set. That won`t always be 3 sets of 10. You also need to increase your weights as you build. Steroids only give you the tools to recover. If you train like you did without gear you will have the same results as you did without. Steroids gives you the ability to train harder, because you recover faster, but it is still up to you to put in the work. If you`re not putting on muscle at 750mg per week increasing the dose isn`t going to help. It will just increase your risk of sides.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
What’s your AI look like? You might add an oral like Winstrol or Proviron that will bind to SHBG and free up the testosterone while also adding lean gains.
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ROBERT User profile
I would personally check your diet, maybe bringing on my calories from cleaner foods. I`d also increase your workout/reps to something that isnt just the normal, maybe go that extra set or two, maybe add some weight. Try taking on 1G-1. 5Gs of protein per lb. Of your body weight.
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I have been using this product for several moths and see no increase in vascularity and muscle size. I take about 2 mil a week. Should I be using a different product or taking more of this
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nickname_916 User profile
I’ve never had a problem with GP so that is strange. If you get it tested with a home kit and it shows “no hormones” in it then I would personally take a pic and send it to 24roids for a refund or new vial. They stand by all their products. You should be seeing size increase after a few months of 500mg a week for sure.
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Robert Barry User profile
Yeah get it tested, 24roids stands behind their gear and would send new gear to you.
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TT KK User profile
You didn`t mention anything about your diet. How do you workout are you stimulating the muscle correctly. The only reason Im saying it because GP products are good
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Max Powers User profile
GP is by far the best product you can get on here. If by some crazy chance you got bad stuff 24roids will make it right. I want to make sure your injecting it properly and have a strong workout routine while consuming healthy carbs and proteins. Also up the dose to 4 ml a week as well. If you want more vascularity order some winstrol and tren.
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ViktorN User profile
Bro something is wrong here! Lab test shows GP Cyp at 273mg/ml. It could be a different batch but highly doubt the quality is not legit with GP. So are you sure it’s GP? Trying to solve this for you. 750 ml a week is plenty. Next you said several months, more than 6 weeks? Has to be more than 6 weeks to kick in. How did you pin your test? In the glute/quad with a 1″ needle in the muscle not in the fatty tissue? If that’s al done correctly. You should work out 2 days on 2 days off and back at it again. You have to push 3 sets of 10s. Make sure the last set you can’t lift more than 6-7. Test is to give you the extra push. You can be big without gears but gears give you stamina and push. You need to rest to build your muscle. You need to eat right to. High protein low carb. You need to sleep. Sleeping is when everything is being building. Since you are in several months just continue on it. After 12 weeks you don’t feel or see results stop and start your pct. doesn’t hurt to follow through. Just clomid. Next cycle try something different. I rec EQ. It bulk you up and it give your a lot of vascular! Sorry for all the info but there is something wrong. I m trying to hit the basics and see what went wrong. Good luck my friend!!
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Anonymous User profile
If you have been doing your diet right you should have definitely seen some results, before jumping on to more steroids see if you missed anything
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How do you know what carrier oils are used in this product. I have some pretty bad reactions to EO i think. I bought gp sust and I had fevers, severe redness, severe swelling, severe pain and heat at shot site. I have had the same trouble with some home brew stuff but test e. I dont have trouble with biomex products at this point. And there has also been some other home brew and labs I dont have problems with. Really would appreciate some insight because I feel like Im just shooting in the dark when I buy products
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Timothy User profile
Many people don’t react to EO very well, it is known to cause PIP and bad swelling. EO isn’t a carrier oil, it’s a solvent and it’s pretty nasty. It’s generally used for drugs with fast or no ester (propionate, base, acetate sometimes) or with high strength because of how effective it is. I found diluting shots with cottonseed oil has helped me with the drugs that gave me problems. You can find it on many medical supply websites.
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Gabriel Hernandez User profile
I have used Geneza test c and e and have had mixed reactions Swelling for sure but no redness , how long have you been cycling My first experiences with pip was mostly when I first started cycling A quick remedy is 20 minutes of ice then apply heat , shower , steam room, or heating pad This will take care of pip in one day . .my experience. I’ve used 24roids products for a couple yrsI can assure you the products are G2G for sure.
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Micheal Ervin User profile
It could be a few things, one the amount your injecting ml wise and the concentration of mg to ml, normally sust is pretty rough due to the multiple esters in the concentration and the more esters there are the more solvent they have to use to suspend it in the carrier oil stick with the one longer esters like e or cyp and due multiple injections through the week like if I’m running 400mg a week I do 2, 200mg injections I also heat the needle before I inject it, it generally absorbs quicker and doesn’t cause any pip
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
If it isn’t printed on the label the %of oil and solvent in it then you should be able to find it on their website, if not and your worried about how much of what is in it hilma biocare prints exactly how much of everything is in each product
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
I have read on internet forums that Geneza uses MTC oil (medium chain triglyceride), but man of these labs change to GSO or other carriers depending on the compound, batch, availability, etc. So its going to be difficult to tell. As others have mentioned, it might be the solvent/antimicrobal that your body doesn`t like.
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ROBERT User profile
If you DONT have issues with BIOMEX products I would stick to using them. If you are wanting to switch off, check the bottles. If it doesnt have the specs on there then try their website. Goodluck
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Hello, I’m not really sure where to post this question so I’ll just try here. I really need help and advice on what to do. I ran my first cycle about 6 months ago of only test cyp at 500 mg a week. I actually did about 20 weeks which I know was probably way to long to run for first cycle. But about week 12-13 around that area I started getting bad back acne. I finished my first cycle and ran a good pct but my back never cleared up. I do have great hygiene and change shirts daily and change sheets often. I been using a body wash called Panoxyl which has Benzoyl Peroxide in it also Neutrogena Body Clear body wash which has Salicylic Acid in it and even been trying Head & Shoulders classic which has Pyrithione Zinc which a buddy from the gym told me was good for back acne. Well I’m on week 6 of my second cycle of test cyp at 500mg a week using the same products on my back and it just seems it’s getting worse. Please any help on how to treat this bad back acne? Any tips, ideas, secrets? I would really appreciate any advice. Thanks
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Gabriel Hernandez User profile
I have also experienced back acne, with the use of testosterone oily skin is definitely a side affect to clear up your back change shirts often, shower twice a day especially before bedMake sure your drinking plenty of water and keep a clean diet , also if you have access to a hot tub the chlorine in the water will help , a good soak a couple times a week should do, try to keep your body temperature down during the day drinking ice water so if you are sweating your not just soaking in it all day
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Gregarious User profile
Just curious how old are you? Generally the younger you are taking injecables, the more prone to acne you may be. Do you have light or darker skin? If you are young and itailian, chances are you already have oily skin and the steroids are causing more oily skin. There are some good corticosteroids that will clear them up fast, but they may only be a temporary solution. Try ketoconazole shampoo, or an oral antifungal, such as itraconazole. These should help control the acne while in cycle.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Co-administering dutasteride will lower androgenic side effects, one of which is hair loss, but it also includes acne. 5-AR inhibitors are also used for acne control. Also, have you looked into retinoids (accutane, or even just tretinoin)? It`s basically the gold standard for acne control, even among bodybuilders who face the exact same problem as you. So I would go with retinoids first and see what happens. As far as hygiene protocols, never scrub to dry, always pat to dry. Also wash 1x a day max, you do not want to excessively wash and therefore increase inflammation, it will only make it worse. Good luck!
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Donald Domenosky User profile
the problem is on the inside not the outside. from using oil based injectable its coming out of the skin,so it will only help some by doing the things your doing. you might want to change gear by using water based injectables. im sure then your skin will be mostly clear,i know it sucks having to inject so often with water based but that should do the trick.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
I have to agree with Anon5 what he said was right on the money, the increased oil production is from the free testosterone converting to dht because your using a test only cycle so your Sebaceous glands are overactive causing more acne, especially if your prone to it. So you have a few options as stated dutast or finasteride which will block the conversion of free to dht and will curb the oily skin and potential hair loss if your prone to mpb. Or retinoids which would be used off cycle for a period of 4-6 months to actually decrease the size and the output of the sebaceous glands. It also makes the cells that are sloughed off into the sebaceous glands less sticky, and therefore less able to form blackheads and whiteheads (comedones). It also reduces the number of bacteria in the sebaceous glands and on the skin surface. So you’ve got a few options but you have to do some research and weigh the pros and cons and makes your own informed decision, some sides were that fin or dustast in clinical trials caused ED in about 80 out of 2700 men taking it some recovered after stopping but some didn’t, and it only works by blocking the dht but doesn’t completely get rid of acne and accutane or retinoids in general are very toxic to the liver and the body some people who have sensitive livers develop jaundice but got rid of acne for life so do some research and weigh your options on what to do
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
You fucked up not running an AI bro. Your estrogen is high and this is causing you problems. It got worse during and after PCT right?? That`s because SERMS are estrogenic to most of your body. You need to continue normal acne treatment, as well as get your estrogen back in range. You need some blood work, look at estrogen. Then take some arimedex at 1mg every day for 10days or so, then drop it off to every other day. While on cycle in the future run . 5mg every three or four days (when you pin) and keep it under control in the first place.