GP Sust 270 (Sustanon) | Questions & Answers

Hey fellas, what`s a sust only cycle(running this) length and dosage?ive only done one cycle(test e) and want to plan for maybe a 3-4th cycle but want to try this. Don`t want extra compounds just a sust only cycle. Thanks
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DrGray User profile

A testosterone cycle can be ran from 8-20 weeks. The longer the cycle the more likely it will be to develop sides. If you do decide to go longer just make sure to pay attention to your blood pressure. Dosage would be, what works for you. What dosage did you run last time? Did it work well for you? You wanna bump it up 100mg, try it. If your previous dosages of test have given you good results stick with that. Test is test brother. If I run a test only cycle it`s 500mg/wk. it`s just what works for me so I see no need to go up. Good luck brother!
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crazy Dan User profile Expert

Test is test friend! TestE has one ester, Enanthate. Sustanon depends on the labs but all sustanon has at least 3 esters. Dragon and GP has 5. But most sustanon has 4. Si what ever sustanon you pin, just pin the mg you are planning to pin per week. The benefit of using sustanon is you can pin once a week and still get stable blood level throughout the week. That`s the only difference between single ester test and sustanon with multiple esters. Just think of esters as “time release” component of testosterone. In short, if you are pinning 250mg twice a week with testE then you can pin 500mg of sustanon a week. Hope that`s clear. Good luck buddy and don`t forget to vote.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Youhave multi cycles under your belt you 1ml every 3days is my ideal dose for cycling but ro each is own bud
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nickname_311 User profile

Sao said 8 to 20 weeks I would recommend about 15 weeks 8 weeks is way too short and when you have come around 10 to 12 weeks the stuff kicking in well you just don`t want to end it 20 weeks a little bit too long in my opinion. I would run dosages around the 500 Mark you could bump it up to 7:50 if you want to
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POOKIE2 User profile

Sus is a great way to do a test only cycle. It kicks in fast and your test levels stay very stable. For dosage and if your first test cycle was successful, do the same dose or slightly higher. For this sus 270 product I`d say 1 ml every 3.5 days at a minimum would be a good dose but again choose your dose based on the results of your last cycle. For length its highly recommended you do at least 12 weeks worth–so some where between 12 – 16 weeks would be recommended. Good luck….stay swole!
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert

I wouldn`t do less than 10 weeks or more than 20 personally. Sust is just like any other Test so this is a blanket statement. If you`ve experienced Test E, then expect the same thing more or less. Good luck brother.
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Update: after using tamoxifen 20 mg everyday for couple of days the iching around the nipples has increased and they seem sore. Should i just go back to 1mg arimidex? How long does it take tanoxifen to get into our system to work?
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nickname_311 User profile

I would try the one milligram of Arimidex every other day see how that goes Greg Doucette recommends 1mg of Arimidex every single day I think that`s a bit ridiculous but it just depends I`d go get your blood sugar levels checked
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Doer User profile

Yea thats what im going to do. I starttd with 1 mg arimidex eod but then guys on here told me to swtich to nolvadex i tried that for couple days but no avail it feels even worse now. I can just go back to arimidex right?
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BigZ User profile

I know it`s late now but you need some aromasin it`s a lot stronger. It will block and kill off estrogen. Anytime I have issues 12.5 mg eod knocks it out.
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JohnCummings User profile

Dude, take 80 mg`s of the nolva a day til it comes down, you can also take the arimidex. Nolva is only active in the nipple, you probably have high total estrogen levels, which nolva will not decrease, it can help the nipple sensitivity though. 20 mg`s is not enough if you`ve already let it go this far. Good luck
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Doer User profile

You can take both at the same time???
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nickname_311 User profile

do you have anything to update us on let us know post any questions recently or ate your replies on this really so just let us know how things are going when you get back to you
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So a wuick update and quick question. I increased the dose of arimidex to 1mg eod all im taking is test 540 mg per week and the itchness around my nipples went away %90 but sometimes i still get an itch and they look a bit swole.. is that normal for them to be a bit swollen? No lump or anything just sensitive and swollen. Thanks
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nickname_311 User profile

The only way you`re really going to tell is to have your estrogen checked to see if it is a normal range you can up it even more if you want some people are very prone to estrogen some people don`t get gyno at all
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Doer User profile

Gotcha.i had my breast tissue removed due to getting gyno before so i dont have a lump it itches from time to time very rarely and looks very little swole.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert

If you have had it before your gonna get every time you use test I suggest lowering the test to 150 or 200 and use other compounds like equipose or primo somthing that wont trigger it
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Krone830 User profile

I am running 500 test 300 Deca weekly with dbol and winstrol everyday 40 mg each and in third week I noticed my nipples are very sensitive and hard all the time but never no itchy ness I took one Arimidex and it helped but I still just have sensitive nips with never no itchiness I would take I whole Arimidex eod until it subsided if it were me and get a blood test if your able to see where your est level is and good luck
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Cyclone User profile Expert

Have you considered incorporating tamoxifen at 20mg per day? This will block the estrogen at the breast receptor site, and completely eliminate this particular issue.
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Doer User profile

20 mg tamoxifen everyday or eod?
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Doer User profile

I am considering that yes so if i switch to tanoxifen 20 mg my estrogen wont go thru the roof right? Tanoxifen can keep it down?
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Doer User profile

No but other peopme have told me the samething. I jave a question so if i take 20 mg tanoxifen instead of arimidex will tamoxifen keep my estrogen low still?
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On my second week using sus. I take it tuesday and friday i use arimidex eod i had gynocomestia before i got my plastic surgeon remove the breast tissue cuz it kept coming back now there is nothing there but i felt itchy around my nipples should i up my arimidex dose to 1 tablet a day guys? Any helps is appreciated. Have a blessed day.
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A19 User profile

You should grab some Nolvadex. It blocks the receptors in the nipples. How much arimadex are you taking now? Are you taking 1mg EOD? You run the risk of crashing your estrogen which can kill all of your gains. Can you run bloodwork?
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Doer User profile

I take .5mg eod i do have some nolva but i was saving it for pct what should i do?
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CommiBiden User profile

Are you taking 540mg of test per week? If so that is fine but if more then Tamoxifen may not be enough to manage the estrogen. Is this all you are running or do you include HCG etc.?
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Doer User profile

Yes thats all i am taking 540mg test per week.
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BillySantos User profile

Running HCG wouldn`t help with estrogen levels, if anything it would make the problem worse; HCG is very estrogenic.
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A19 User profile

Commibiden gave the answer. If all you’re taking is test, ditch the Arimadex and run 10mg/day of the Nolvadex instead.
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CommiBiden User profile

You fail to include your dose. Prolactin is still a problem with our without mammary glands though more manageable. . Some surgeons leave a bit behind that reacts and you always have the other effects. Run Tamoxifen at a minimum of 10mg per day. God bless you too.
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A19 User profile

Should he run the nolvadex with the arimadex or instead of?
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CommiBiden User profile

Lab test are best. Run just 10mg Nolvadex/Tamoxifen if test is all you have in you. Terminal elimination is 5 days though peak plasma C is 24hrs at best.
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Doer User profile

So i shouldnt increase the arimidex dose to 1mg eod and just ditch it snd take nolva instead?
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One more question guys. I drive 11 hours a day …. and my auestion is can sustanon form blood cloths? Should i take aspiring just to be safe or nah? I wouldnt be worried if i didnt sit too long
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JamesEarl User profile Expert

It`s generally good to take a baby aspirin daily anyway. I doubt sustanon will do anything, however I`d just take a baby aspirin daily, just don`t go over the baby aspirin amount, and I`m not sure what it is. Good luck man.
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KaanhanTasci User profile

Thanks James. Appreciate it
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nickname_311 User profile

It will increase your red blood cell count so yes possibly could you can donate blood to lower that what I would do on your drives if it all possible I would get out every so often move around so that you have your circulation going
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KaanhanTasci User profile

definitely i stop every 3 hours to stretch and exercise so i dont die lol just being safe thank you for helping me out
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EQhead User profile Expert

That`s a very long time to be sitting. Yes take an 81mg aspirin daily. I`ve had clots before that became pulmonary embolism and you will die if medical care isn`t available. I couldn`t walk 5 feet without gasping for air. Please take it seriously. Any compound that raises your RBC increases the chance of clots. Look into getting some compression stockings to wear while driving if you haven`t already. Stay safe. Cheers!
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KaanhanTasci User profile

Wow thats scary. Do you recommend the baby aspirin or the coated ones? Im def gonna wear my compression stockings
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

I also take daily aspirin on gear, but as mentioned that`s a LONG as time to sit. I would add the aspirin at very low dose. Doesn`t hurt if not needed.
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KaanhanTasci User profile

I know its terrible for my health but its my job im going to be done with it in 2 weeks. For some reason i feel like aspirin makes me smaller. What kind of aspirin do you take baby aspirin or the one thats coated dissolves in your intestines?
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MichaelSmith User profile

Steroids don`t cause blood clots. A poor injection were maybe you got a vein could maybe. Asprin can be part of a good daily routine regardless to thin the blood and get it moving betting. More blood flow more oxygen and nutrients flowing around so if you want to add that it won`t hurt(probably)
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RyanVogel User profile

I take one 81mg baby aspirin a day to keep my blood thin or donate blood
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So I`ve been pinning GP Sust 270 EOD .5 ML but I missed a day did 1mL on my delt. My friend who is a nurse did it for me. But I`ve noticed I get really bad PIP (post-injection pain) on the second day of injection. I used a 22g 1-inch needle for my glute and that one hurt bad too on the second day. Any tips on reducing the pain after the injection I usually work out the muscle the day I inject then ice at night. Is this normal for sustanton 270?Also what vitamins do you recommend to have safe blood pressure and a good clean cycle?
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Mr and Mrs J User profile

Once you draw up your oil, switch to a 25gauge tip. Your 22 gauge is too big. You can also warm the bottle up by holding the vial under water. Take a hot shower first. It relaxes the skin and opens pours. This will also help with your pip. And delt is usually twice as sore as a glute shot
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KevinCabrera User profile

thanks for that! I was scared I had a product with too much Benzyol Alcohol or something. Ive just seen so many good reviews in GP Sust 270 I was like why is no one mentioning the pip.
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Branko User profile

Your needle might be too big as mentioned. Try rubbing the spot after slowly injecting and slowly pulling out. Some people react differently from different carrier oil as well. Make sure you are rotating sites. It`s not a bad idea to have another muscle to pin also. Good luck bro.
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KevinCabrera User profile

thank you!!
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RichardBarski User profile

The way I tend to do any injections I prepare the needle load up with what ever gear I`m currently using, put the syringe in a heating pad. While my gear is warming up I`ll take a shower and inject immediately after I get out. Thats the best result for me. Try warming the oils before use it definitely helps.
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Does anyone else pin with insulin style syringes (sub-Q) every day? I`ve been doing this, and besides being annoying at times to backload each syringe, I`ve found I get ZERO sides like I would before. No acne either which is my normal problem with gear. Just wondering if anyone else does this. I`ve heard the studies show sub-q is the same as intramuscular injections, and daily injections keep your blood levels stable(r).
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Hi Jay, yes, I pin with insulin syringes subQ every day but it`s not oil — it`s GH. I think you are talking about oil only. My TRT doctor had me on an auto-injector that pinned test cyp subQ and levels were very stable. thx
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Basically using this a TRT meaning a CC every week, can you get away with once weekly pen or should I stick with twice weekly
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American Recon User profile

You can but the best would be to do so twice a week it will just allow a more stable blood level. Preventing a higher peaks and a lower valley.
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Will User profile Expert

Sust is made up of both short and long esters. Short esters are in and out of your system within 2 days. So you`ll have to inject every other day at the very least to keep blood levels steady. One thing to also note, if you`re taking 270mg of test, you`re not on a TRT dose. TRT doses are between 100-150mg. You`re still in a super physiological amount of test.
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POOKIE User profile

Will, down voted you and wanted to explain why. Even though there are shorter esters in sus, the way it pairs with other longer esters you do not have to inject it EOD like you would with a single short ester. As the short esterare reaching its half life the next longer ester stabilizes levels and so on. In Europe this blend is specifically used for TRT and is injected once a week and even as long as once every two weeks with out issue.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

Spot on, good answer. good explanation.
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Branko User profile

I second that. Twice weekly will give you optimum stability in blood levels.
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POOKIE User profile

Technically you can get away with once a week. It is commonly prescribed as a once a week dose for TRT in Europe. Regardless, I agree with AR and Branko above that twice a week is more ideal. Also 270 mgs for a TRT dose might be a little high. Recommend starting with 0.5 ML total for the week then get bloodwork 5 weeks later to see you test values. If you are above 500 ng/dl and feel good you found your right dose. Taking extra forever could lead to unhealthy side effects so it`s better to start low and find your correct dose.
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Can someone please help me out i want to put my thyroid into high normal like being on trt . Anny suggestion?
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emmanuel tucay User profile

take cytomel/t3. your body naturally makes about 81mcg of t3. do anything above this number would be high normal. they sell here on this site at 25mcg per pill. one dose everyday, same time everyday. very important. stagger doses up and down similar to clen. example being, wk1 50mcg wk2 100 wk3 150 wk4 200 wk5 150 wk6 100 just as an example. i would build myself up to 200 mcg seemed to work fine for my goals. but everyone is different. please do a little more research on your end as i cannot answer all of your questions. hope this helps.
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charles hernandez User profile

Thanks buddy thats going to help me alot .
Thanks again
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RecoveryProject User profile

Charles; I hope your well. The advice that Emmanuel gave you about tittering up and down is good, but I would say if your trying to be in a high normal, those doses are too high. I will add to it that if you have not assessed your tolerance to T3 you should first asses. Then follow the following: begin with a T3 dosage of 25 – 50mcg per day, and tolerance is assessed. Tolerance relates to the experience of metabolism and fat burning effects, as well as the temperature increase associated with it. Every individual will respond in a different manner and a different intensity to any one given Cytomel dosage, so it must be understood that a T3 dose of 50mcg for one individual might elicit steady fat loss, but that same 50mcg dose might not do very much for another.Once tolerance is assessed after remaining at a 50mcg dose for a day or two, the individual should then increase their Cytomel dosage by an additional 25mcg every day (or every other day, depending on the individual’s experience) until a peak optimal dose is achieved. The typical peak dose for most male Bodybuilders and athletes tends to lie in the range of 75 – 100mcg per day. Some have even ventured as high as 125mcg per day, though this is on the high end and is not normally recommended. Hope this helps, best wishes.
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Anyone having trouble ordering from Malaysia nothing`s been updated since the 30th and I have like 4 different apps idk if I should be worried or what??
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Big Jake User profile

I have a shipment of tren-e that posted with malaysian tracking on 3/24. Nothing happened with it until yesterday, yesterday USPS tracking showed it was pre-shipment still. until that only 17track showed anything. Tracking is not the most reliable these days, I have a feeling USPS employees would rather not touch every parcel that goes by them. I ordered 5 things from ebay in the last week and tracking missed lots of scans, estimates showed delivery estimates way off in the future and then it would just show up. I saw in the news today that USPS mail volume is WAY down, they are claiming a 13bil loss in revenue. Why knows what protocol foreign postal authorities are following these days. I`ll wager 24roids are being very careful with where and when they post their orders too. I personally am not worrying about a thing. I have 3 open shipments and they will show up just fine.
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ShreddedFreak User profile

Hey man I wouldn`t be too concerned. Shipping is moving everything is just slowed down a bit with all the crazy covid going on. I have a couple orders and it seems as though they are moving. I wont have any updates and then it will give me a few updates at once. We just have to be patient! Good luck hopefully you get your stuff soon!
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Edward User profile

I`ve been waiting over 3 weeks and nothing has been updated either it is definitely getting frustrating
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Dustin Murphy User profile

Also take into consideration if you ordered the product of the week combined with the Coronavirus they`re definitely backed up because of the high volume of the product of the week
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Mike87 User profile

Agree with Big Jake. You will get the package, it might be little longer then normal. Shipment has not stopped, just slowed down a bit.
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Dan User profile Expert

I order hcg from Bharat in January. It came out of Malaysia and it came in 2 weeks from the date it marked “shipped” to SoCal. It didn`t get updated until it reach Florida. Malaysia imo is the safest place for international package to come out of and in to US customs. So no need worry buddy. you get your gear soon.
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This does not pertain to this item. After a 2 year or longer break from all steroids, I use 700mg testosterone weekly, but after over 6 weeks I don`t feel the energy and motivation increase at all. Many said my other hormones could be out of whack. What type of hormones should I have checked in my blood test other than testosterone? That seems the only way to fix this issue.
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traianos123 User profile

Your estrogen level could be high or low, also your prolactin level can be high. Do u pin twice per week to keep your test levels the same every day? Do u use an AI? At 700mg/week test is good u use an estrogen blocker otherwise your estrogen level will be very high and u will feel like shit, also other sides will come if u dont use an AI.
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SamV User profile

Estrodial, Prolactin, decreased HDL are some of the other things you should be checking. Estrogen is the key here as you don`t want it too high or too low as both will impact your libido a lot. A mild dosage of AI would help but please have a blood work done before taking additional components. good luck.
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Matt User profile

Definitely your estrogen and prolactin could be out, prolactin in theory shouldn`t be with just test but mine was. Personally I also get tsh, thyroxine (thyroid), cortisol, albumin and of course testosterone is useful to know. That would pretty much cover your basic male hormone but I`m sure there`s plenty more you could get done.
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Will User profile Expert

My big question would be what kind of testosterone are you using and how frequent are you injecting? If you`re using Sust, it should be injected no less than every day or every other day. Unstable blood levels can cause the problem you`re describing and a lot of people make the mistake of not injecting frequently enough with sust.
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nickname_88 User profile

I can`t agree more with Will on this one.. I have read debate posts on susta over and over again on how you can get away with injecting 2 times a week spread pretty far apart or even up to once a week.. hey if it works and you don`t experience any bad sides then good on ya but I have had nothing but the best cycles especially running susta pinned either everyday and or eod… doesn`t even have to be .5 or 1ml… even .25mgs pinned but evenly, everyday to help keep stable blood levels.. I am firm believer that this can strongly hell with better cycle and better overall feeling throughout.. Yes I see your not talking about this compound, so which test then exactly would have been good to add in this question so we could give better information.. Can`t say it would be much more than estrogen levels perhaps since you`re not saying anything about running any 19Nors.. Even so, if you went to a dr, he or she would definitely know what to look for being out of whack.. good luck
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Branko User profile

You should check your estrogen and prolactin levels bro. Prolactin especially plays a huge role in libido. Hope this helps!
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The reason I asked about better mood and energy is because I no longer feel it. Even after a 2 year break from all steroids. Why don`t I feel the energy and mood even on 700mg test and it`s been over 6 weeks now?? Any other hormones at play here since before effecting me??
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Matt Beard User profile

Get your blood work done and see where you are at. I found my sex drive dipping alot during my cycle and got bloods done halfway through and my prolactin was sky high, which was strange as only taking test but anyway been taking 600mg b6 as recommended by Dr Scott and much better now. Not got next bloods done yet to see actual result but certainly feeling good. Could be your estrogen is out, well worth checking if you haven`t already.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

All AAS have CNS activity, its what causes aggression, libido, mood swings, feelings of well being ect. there is also the purely psychological effect of just knowing that you have superhuman levels of testosterone in you (this is purely in your head, but real, and independent of any pharmacologic activity). Typically, but not always, and not for everyone compounds that have more androgenic activity will have more of those type sides (sides are not always bad, in this case feelings of well being). Think proviron which is highly androgenic and only mildly anabolic but causes, in most, increased libido and in many aggression. These effects are very variable and differ with the drug and person. As matt said it wouldnt hurt to get bloodwork done, because if your hormones are all fucked up you are never going to feel right. 700mg is a pretty stiff dose IMO and if you are really feeling nothing, i doubt raising the dose will help. What i would do is cycle off after this cycle and change the drug, mfg or whatever, change something. As an aside most people never get the same benefits as they do on their first few cycles, but i have been doing this a long time and always feel something. especially at doses you are talking about. good luck
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Santi User profile

I agree with Dr S. Any AAS that you take will cause a feeling of well being of euphoria in some cases. It could be knowing you have that extra edge that we are all looking for. I usually get it within the first week even though I know that The gear hasn’t kicked in for a few weeks. That leaves me to believe that it is mostly psychological in the beginning of my cycle. After 4 weeks, you should have had that feeling already. Maybe take a break to get your bloods checked or you can switch esters for a while. Try some Test e or test c
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nickname_88 User profile

Wow.. like already stated but saying again.. Not feeling anything at 700mgs a week on susta?? GP at that?? Well I will attest that the gear is not bunk since GP is my main go to.. So yeah I would go get your levels checked just to know where they r at because that is a very respectable dose that should be yielding you some pretty hefty results, both in strength and over all feeling.. Sorry for your struggle and hope you`re able to get it in check..
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KnickerB User profile

It could very well be other health conditions. Have you checked for Diabetes or related complications ? If after 700mg (which is a cycle dosage) you don`t feel then its probably some medical issues you need to check with, They would start with a B12 shots for 12 week while doing blood work to diagnose other conditions. Feel better buddy.
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Cyclone User profile Expert

Are you taking an aromatase inhibitor with all of that testosterone? This could be a simple case of high estrogen, because the high levels of testosterone aromatizing into ecess E2. Again, this will bring you back to securing blood work to see exactly what`s going on. That`s the logical starting point and will reveal a lot of useful information.
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This is not about this product. But I loved the mood enhancement and energy increase with motivation on steroids. Can you tell me which ones give that feeling or is it specific to the user?
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JB205 User profile Expert

All test will help give you this feeling of energy and wellbeing, the only difference really is the esters of the test. Test prop will act quickly in your body but only last around 48 hours, test cyp and test eth are both longer acting esters and last around 10 to 14 days but generally take 2 or 3 weeks even to kick in to your system. Or you can take a sustanon or one in use is Dragon pharma test blend 350 which has all 3 testosterone esters mixed.
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traianos123 User profile

I must agree with JB, any test u will use it will give u that feeling, u will have more energy and at gym u will be able to push more for more time, for me it works great Dianabol, i use 30 mg, one pill in the morning one before workout and one in night time, the pill that i take before workout it does miracles, it have me lot of power and energy, and because this the time at gym is great, also the pumps i have from it are amazing.
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Stephen Jefferson User profile

When I`m on just test I feel good;full of energy but when I`m on something like tren that`s when the slight anger kicks in but a euphoric like feeling like when I`m in that gym everything I throw on the bar I can lift it and nothing is going to stop me
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MegaCycle User profile

Testosterone certainly helps a lot but after a certain amount it doesn`t provide any better results, typically high TRT level dosage should provide what you need with little to no sides. If you keep your levels around 1100 or so, you should feel good all the time.
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Matt Beard User profile

I believe it is specific to the user but it also depends on many other things that can be going on. Most important imo is rest. I felt great on my first cycle of test when I was on holiday from work but as soon as I was back on night shift and the lack of quality sleep that brings the great feeling certainly went. saying that tho the gains continued in the gym so all good.
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KnickerB User profile

A lot of it depends on age, lifestyle and medical conditions, Testosterone certainly helps but it saturates after sometime and I know this from my personal TRT experience. Increasing the dosage is one option but everything has a plateau and increased side effects. Try adding B12 shots for 6 weeks and see if that helps. good luck.
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hey 24roids family got a question and need some opinions. Everytime I drink a protein shake my stomach literally gets fucked up ive never been told that I`m lactose intolerant but I feel like I am. It wouldn`t be such a problem if my stomach and stole wasn`t so fucked up. And this is only when I drink protein shakes I`ve tried tons of brands and still happens. Any suggestions, thanks 24roids family!
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Pookie User profile

Spend the money and get a good whey isolate. Search on Amazon or google whey isolate and find a good brand. I`m the same way and switched to Dymatize Iso 100 and no more stomach problems
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Barry Gibson User profile

You might be lactose intolerant, it happens sometimes to Caucasians but is more common in Asians and Africans (general group). But it can occasionally happen to Caucasians (middle easterners etc generally). I have a friend he`s only 1/8th Asian and cannot stand milk. Trick is simple, whey protein isolate. Anybody that is lactose intolerant or has become so regardless of general background, just use whey isolate, not concetrate not regular milk but simply whey isolate only and you`re good to go. Milk derived products have growth factors, look at the gallon of milk a day or gomad diet and see. Regardless if you get a very upset stomach nowadays you can drink whey isolate and you`ll see, no more issues and get all the extra protein too. Try it it`ll work.
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Stephen Jefferson User profile

Try another protein…. I couldn`t hold down a lot of proteins out there but then I tried quest and I could tolerate it
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

You could be developing an intolerance. I started to in my mid30s. Try to meal prep and look into a protein bar instead.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Many people have issues they make tonns of different products try plant based protein
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MegaCycle User profile

Look at the chemicals in that protein and compare it with others. Try to find what is causing it
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Big Jake User profile

100% you need whey protein isolate. You`ll be able to handle it much better.
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Hey 24roids family I got a question about workout arm training wraps. Do you guys think this will help me when I do arms or do you guys think they`re not worth it. I`m only limited to so many workouts since my gym closed and got a good amount of workout equipment but just wanted to know your guy`s opinion? Thanks 24roids family!
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Big Jake User profile

I`m guessing you`re talking about BFR blood flow restriction bands, sometimes called kaatsu bands. I have a set for arms and legs, I use them as a finisher and get crazy pumps. The science is there – it tricks your body into thinking you are lifting heavy when you`re not. you cinch the band between your bicep and delt relatively firmly (skinny bands are better for arms, like 1″ bands). Then you go for 20-40% of your one rep max, shooting for 30+ reps the first set. After a few sets, you`ll be shocked just how fatigues you get with a light weight and just a few reps. for biceps I finish with seated concentration curls with a 10 pound dumbell. I really like using these with pulleys too for bis, tris and delts. I still lift heavy but I read up on these quite a bit and I use them. I think they work. For the leg bands I cinch them up and put one plate on a sled and go for like 35 reps. by the time I`m done my legs are so swole they rub and I walk funny. The concept is that the pressure of the band stops the vein from removing blood from the region while the arteries can still pump blood to the muscle. blood then pools and you get a crazy pump. Adding AAS to this picture ought to be effective as it`s really all about blood flow on some level. I hope this is remotely what you were talking about :o)
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S-C-J User profile

Are they worth it? It looks like you could pick these up for as little as 10-15 minutes, and thier modest effectiveness is well documented.
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Htimserd User profile

These types of things are just preference. If you feel they will help you lift better, longer, or with better form get them. Most wraps you can buy ate helpful I just wouldn`t recommend using any one wrap every time you lift.
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pat User profile

Like ht said if you think they’ll work for you they probably will bro, take care
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

There`s is science to show that restricting blood flow during an exercise then releasing the blood flow does add in recovery of muscles but hasn`t shown any promise as to the actually effects on hypertrophy because it just blocks and fills the muscle with blood but doesn`t aid in breaking down the fibers it takes to build muscle
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Jonathan User profile

They will limit you and progress you. Take your grip out of a movement and you can go heavier. Take your grip out of a movement and it is f trained in that movement.
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Just so others know that 24roids takes euro.thought I had to cancel my mg order and was putting off for a minute cause I was told that 24roids don`t except that currency but just woke up and seen that my payment was picked up and will ship in 5 days! Love 24roids!
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24roids User profile Expert

Your preaching to the choir brother. We all know 24roids is the best
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

Not exactly sure what you are saying. I have made many dozens of orders over the years and always paid with bitcoin, litecoin or MO. 24roids is pretty clear about what payments they accept, its on the bottom of the MY account page. If you want to go outside of what they suggest then you do so at your own peril, just stick with what works and what they suggest.
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Nickname_45 User profile

I agree with others in regards to not reinventing the wheel and following 24roids payment process to the T! Good to hear your payment went through but I can see it creating a lot of issues. Best to follow it. It`s very clear and easy.
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nickn User profile

Yes I take Euros or US dollars r cryptocurrency but they have always taken euros good luck with your order
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novadesert007 User profile

Agree with Dr Scott. I personally like bitcoin the best. Fast and easy. Although I never tried GP sus. Always with DP sus 350 and always have pip. Anyone Care to share experience?
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EDubz User profile

Its not how they want you to pay, you just got lucky and they accepted it. But in tje future I would make sure it`s available in US currency, glad your getting your stuff tho without having to go thru the trouble of switching it back to US currency.
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I`ve done two orders now with mg the first order was so simple but this second time was such a hassle because she kept screwing up the order and I`ve been wanting to use btcion but im so nervous about it and idk why. I feel like I should be fine using it because my orders never go over $200. Any suggestions? Thanks 24roids fam!
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Htown User profile

Use bitcoin through coinbase. 24roids even takes Zelle now!!! I love zelle
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Will User profile Expert

Why would you have a problem with bitcoin? Its ridiculously simple. You make the order and they give you a code. You buy the bitcoin and send to the code they gave you. Then it`s a waiting game until you receive your package.
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Michael Vasquez User profile

Bitcoin is a breeze and processing is slot faster than other forms of payment. Just make sure you use bitcoin and not bitcoin cash or another form of currency that`s not supported or you`ll loose all your money. 24roids will not refund you trust me it happened to me once.
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TBSFT User profile

Bitcoin is very simple after initial set up. Initial set might require some additional verification, however, takes fewer than 24 hours. I have used Coinbase forever and no issues, ever! It is important to note to use Bitcoin and NOT Bitcoin Cash and this disclaimer is on every payment page of every provider!
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Almighty Thor User profile

Just download the money gram app and that way you don`t have to deal with anyone. I have never had any issues using the app.
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Big Dogg User profile

Cashapp. Easiest fastest way to do bitcoin. Download it check youtube for tutorials. Super easy amd bitcoin clears almost instantly.
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How long does it take for the order to say stop pending because my money was picked up hours ago so idk if I`m just impatient or what? 2vials of gp sust 270 Thanks 24roids fam!
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Murderface User profile

I`m not sure about MG orders, but with bitcoin this status changes from pending to approved within 20-30 minutes.
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traianos123 User profile

u dont have to stress yourself, soon your order will be marked as paid, if u do the payment with crypto in around one hour from payment the order will be marked as paid so is much faster if u pay with crypto.
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Iron Mike User profile

Don`t sweat it bro, they have never let me down!!!! Been with the family for 3 years and counting, great results every time.. The key to this game is patience……
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Htown User profile

Just chill and don`t sweat it, they are legit. Even if they did jack you what you would? So sit back and relax
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Will User profile Expert

Sounds like Moneygram if they “picked up your money hours ago”. You are being impatient. Your order will ship in 3-7 days and likely arrive 3-4 weeks after the order is shipped.
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Michael Vasquez User profile

Next time pay with bitcoin it processes in a few hours. MG can take a few days to change status. But I wouldn`t worry it update soon just be patient.
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How often do you suggest pinning a sust blend for trt at 200mg a w eek?
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sust User profile

with sust, and the mix of ester long and short you may pin .75/ml once a week, twice a week, or every other day. all will provide stable hormone levels.
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Dromeo User profile

Twice a week would work for you. Sunday`s and Wednesday`s or Monday`s and Thursday`s.
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trt User profile

you can pin this just about how often you wish to the desired dose to no consequence or imblance to hromones. i prefer eod.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Hey TRT, pinning sustanon twice per week will be perfect. 100mg two times per week. May be a bit difficult to get 100mg out of sust 270 but you can do it. Thanks for the question
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Stephen Jefferson User profile

Once every 7 to 10 days
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Dan User profile Expert

This get complicated because after a couple of weeks your medium and long esters get saturated and you don`t know the test cleave off except for the half life calculation which is a guess. I would recommend 50mg twice a week would be trt dose. Guess…
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For Dr. Scott Good read on your last. I have stayed away from putting these statements up here mainly cuz I like to try n keep things Q&A but sometimes I think we do want to let others know that we do appreciate ALL of their feedback both in agreement or disagreement lol We all try and do our research here but like we agree on, personal experience and personal preference is what it comes down to for each but is good to share some of that along the way to.. Sustanon was the very first test I ran years ago and I have used both 2x a week and yes 4x a week. It`s worked both ways for the reasons i did each cycle in the way I did but I am with you that Sust is a great mix.. Organon was the first brand I ran and I like that mix exactly like how Aaster has their`s. This will he the first time running GP`s sust 270 and I am looking forward to it.. Yes I know, not much of a question here. Sorry. But thank you all for all of your feedback and other great answers on here. Really is a great forum for us to keep up on.. Good day to y`all!
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TLT User profile

Can I get a `Dr Scott is the man!` for $2! 🙂
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JB205 User profile Expert

I agree, a lot of guys on here with years of experience give great advice. And it ultimately will come down to personal experience and how people react to certain gear. Everyone will have some type of difference between how thier own body handles each substance. I feel that the best advice given is for the ones who have never used AAS before and are given solid and safe advice on how to start. I wish I had this site when I first started and it would have saved me a lot of damage I did misusing gear.
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Jd D User profile

My first time using this right now it is dp tried blend 350 l like it but man it leaves a bump on my rump little painful so I used a longer pin this last pin seems a lot better to get it deep in the muscle thanx
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S-C-J User profile

There is so much natural variation to how people react to various compounds, so I think we tend to see a lot of different personal experiences shared as bible truth.
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Dromeo User profile

Agreed. I learn some thing new everyday on this forum. The knowledge is priceless.
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Bswole User profile

I have tried gp sust270 i loved it u will not be disappointed i promis u. No pip it was pretty smooth.
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For Nick J on my last post.. Most definitely yes.. once again. You`ll read so many say you can get away with pinning sustanon 2x a week.. I disagree and find that just crazy mainly because of the short esters in sust.. sides will be more likely pinning less frequently and you`ll lose out on the benefits of what the sust should be doing for you.. even though there are long esters in sust, well it doesn`t mean you have to pin a full 1ml eod… take .5ml or .75 ml of sust along with whatever else you`re pinning(in my case tren) and pin eod so taking full advantage of the short esters while not filling up too much of the long ester… but yes, ideally eod with sustanon is the way to go..
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Trentastic User profile

You are confused. it is not about the levels of test P it is about your testosterone levels. it was added to give it the immediate pop sustenon was desinged for every 7-10 day dosage i have benn around long enough to remember. go to maxtreme pharma and read their write up (on this site) on testo non ten yheir sust unless you maybe know more than the people who actually manufacture the drug and those of us that have their levels tested at 7,14 and 21 days. be care with what you put out
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S-C-J User profile

Right, because you can always trust a writeup from an UGL trying to sell black market products… lol. This is why I don`t mess with Sust – the mix has an identity crisis and is hard to use effectively.
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EDubz User profile

My 1st cycle I used sust and pinned Monday and Thursday and had very little sides if any. Also gained about 30 pounds of muscle. So Sust Definetely works well only pinning twice a week. Idk why its so hard for people to understand theres only a small amount of prop in it for the quick effect then longer esters, by the time the prop leaves another ester is taking it`s place. So its not necessary to pin eod although if you want to it wont hurt but you can keep stable blood levels with the original sust formula pinning twice a week.
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GainsVille_85 User profile

I used the BM Pharma sust with a BiWeekly injection schedule and had absolutely no issues. No pip, no sides, no mood swings, I loved it. I was cruising and using a relatively low dose.
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EQhead User profile Expert

Sust 2 x weekly works great. 0.5 eod works as well. There`s not a recognizable difference
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mike User profile

I have used sust twice a week and felt great but you all have a point logically pinning more frequently makes sense
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Hey, so it seems to be that the rule of thumb is however long you`re on then that`s how long you should be off. Correct? If so, does this time include the couple of weeks it takes for esters to clear depending on what you`re taking and a proper PCT? Or if you`re on for 10wks, you`d be off for 10 after PCT? Thanks in advance
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Lorddrip User profile

No matter what time on is time off and you can always add 1 or 2 to be certain or just to make you comfortable about starting another cycle good luck
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traianos123 User profile

if u are on 10 weeks cycle and 4 pct u need to be off 14 weeks, this is the rule, me i never respect this rule, i stay of less weeks, it works good for me
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Ryan User profile

Im pretty positive it means same amount of time off as time on excluding pct (10 weeks on 10 weeks off after pct) but in all honesty im sure it isnt a big deal to be a couple weeks before 10 (or whatever your cycle length was)
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile

Yes all time on Plus pct equals time off
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Dromeo User profile

For me it`s how I feel. After running PCT (which you should include as time off cycle) and getting my test, balls and estrogen back to within normal limits I run bloodwork to see where exactly I`m at. So you`re correct when you mention the esters. Enanthates take longer to exit your system whereas acetates are out of your system relatively quickly. When I get my blood work done I also check liver values and kidney functions. If all checks out good, I`m set as far as that concerned. You also want to give your receptors time to get back to normal when can take a couple of months. I know people who ran 16 week cycles and only took 10 weeks off before jumping back on cycle. Me personally I never stop. I cruise for anywhere from 8-12 weeks prior to blasting again. It`s a personal preference and comes down to what I mentioned before with the blood work. Hope that helps.
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LilBear User profile

for example. If I do a 10 week cycle of test enanthate. I will wait until 12 weeks to start my pct, then once I finish pct I will wait an additional 10 weeks. But technically you could finish pct and do bloodwork and if your levels return to normal then you can start again. Good luck!
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Can anyone recall when a POTW had over 300 votes?
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patsalos mixalis User profile

3 weeks ago I think man can’t remember 100% , happy new year
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Jamie Teague User profile

I think last week was pretty close to that but I haven’t seen it in awhile
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Johnny Longsockz User profile

I believe it was about 4 weeks or so ago when the voting got a little hyped up
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voodoo User profile

I think this is the only POTW that I see track over or will reach over 300 votes. I guess we really want eq300. Well. Finally!!
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Matthew User profile

I can`t recalled when. I am just glad EQ300 is gonna win POTW. Ists still close !!
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Barry Gibson User profile

Maybe a few weeks ago?
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Hi, I`ve been taking sust 270, deca and oxy for a week. I have a question about dieting. My main goal is to gain muscle mass. Does my diet have to be 100 percent clean or can I just eat as much as I want to gain the weight? And I dont mean junk food like chips, twinkies and burgers. I just mean things high in protein but that may be high in fat. I didn`t know if that would just work against what I`m taking? Thanks!
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Unc33135 User profile

When i bulk like that i usually eat as much as possible with it not being all clean. As long as its not things like twinkies like you said youll be good. Everyones metabolism is different but personally i can tell you i put on very little if any fat when on gear. If your putting on unwanted weight during your cycle change your diet up to be more clean.
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Nickname_282 User profile

Great question and goal. Fats in proper proportions are part of a healthy diet I`m built to shed fat and run fast so i bulk a little different than most by force feeding up to 260lbs. Keep the animal fats to a minimum while increasing avacodo and walnuts which are an excellent source of monounsaturated fatty acids, which boost HDL and lower LDL. HDL is your heart healthy cholesterol. Get your Hematocrit levels checked and disregard your RBC.
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Metal Mike User profile

My goal when bulking is to eat alot. I stay away from the garbage though. Lots of potatoes,rice,steak,chicken and eggs As much as possible. Train hard and stay swole.
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Matthew User profile

Diet is the most important things you do in this game. Clean diet give you clean mean muscles whether you are bulking or cutting. So yes. Eat to gain mass!
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Big Dogg User profile

At my age and size I just dont have a need to bulk anymore. A lot of people may disagree but when I did bulk I ate anything and everything. If you start to get too fat just train harder or clean up the diet a little. When “ON” you should be able to eat 6000 calories a day and not get fat if you are training and resting enough. At 5`11″ I got to 225 at 10%BF naturally and my diet was not clean when I gained most of that weight. Do what works for you.
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N88 User profile

Cant eat as much as you want. Yes you wanna make sure you get all your macros in but if you start getting fat, back off the calories. You can still gain a shit ton of muscle without getting fat
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Hi I took a deca and sust shot last night in the thigh. This morning my thigh is so tight and sore I cant walk on it with out it hurting and causing me to limp. Is this normal and when does it go away? Thanks!
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Md. Phd User profile

Sounds right, some guys manage leg injections and some don`t. People here will rant on preheating gear though at the end it`s individual. Try to bring your lats into rotation as they are large, flat muscles with few nerves. Keep asking questions
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

That`s the reason I stay away from my legs, I keep all my injections in my delts cause you can rotate from medial to posterior delt left and right so you have 4 rotations of injections stay away from front delts because there are a lot of nerves that connect your anterior delt to your pec major and hitting those could cause damage and immense pain
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

Nope not normal. dont use your lats either. a long flat muscle is not intended for deep IM injection which these drugs were designed, plus all of the nerves that arise from the spinal column. The back is full of vessels and nerves as is the quad. finally how do you approach your own lat, i have way to much muscle on my chest and bi`s to do this comfortably. I cant imagine why anyone who has any clue would suggest this. Just stick to your outer glutes, i have been doing this for decades and rarely need to go elsewhere and never have PIP more than a day or two. Hopefully this will resolve shortly, keep an eye on it and in the mean time watch a video on lat glute injection and sterile technique there are plenty. You should never hinder your work outs or walking from an injection, never. but mistakes happen, i hope this clears up quickly
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Bswole User profile

I had the same problem it went away in about a week. I just stick to my glutes from now on just rotate sides u should be good bro
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EDubz User profile

Yes thats normal if you never did it there before. I inject in my delts, and have very little pip I personally dont like they shots. Def dont try lats. Try delts or flutes.. Good luck
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patsalos mixalis User profile

I never do legs but I have heard of this before. If I was you I’d go to the doctor, better safe than sorry man, take care
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Hi I just started a cycle of sust, and deca. I was wondering if it`s ok to put both in the same syringe so I only have 2 shots a week instead of 4. I didn`t know if it`s bad to mix the two as far as in the bottles and in the muscle. Thanks!
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voodoo User profile

Better to draw into your syringe each time to have better control of what amount you need from each gear. And yes you can mix these two together prior to pinning since both are oil base. You don`t mix water base and oil base gear together. But you are good with sust and deca.
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Matthew User profile

Absolutely!! Mix both in one suringe. If you can only pin yourself with each gear than I would be pinning my ass 8 times a week!! Draw with a 23g and swap to a 25g needle before pinning. This will insure the pinning needle is sharp.
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patsalos mixalis User profile

yes do what mathew said draw liquid then insert into other vial and draw, change syringe and inject. good luck
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JB205 User profile Expert

Yes, you can load both on one syringe to reduce the amount of times you have to inject. I do this all the time when running multiple compounds.
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Angel Garcia User profile

HEY GUYS,QUICK QUESTION: DOES ANYBODY KNOW A SECURE SIGHT TO ORDER SYRINGES FROM? RUNNING A TEST E 250 12 WEEK CYCLE.. THANKYOU…..
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Big Dogg User profile

Yes. Draw both into the same syringe. Dont mix them in the vials. Just draw them together every time you inject. Make sure you have big enough syringes.
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Hi I just started a cycle of sust, and deca. I was wondering if it`s ok to put both in the same syringe so I only have 2 shots a week instead of 4. I didn`t know if it`s bad to mix the two as far as in the bottles and in the muscle. Thanks!
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voodoo User profile

yes do what mathew said draw liquid then insert into other vial and draw, change syringe and inject. good luck
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JB205 User profile Expert

Yes, you can load both on one syringe to reduce the amount of times you have to inject. I do this all the time when running multiple compounds.
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Angel Garcia User profile

HEY GUYS,QUICK QUESTION: DOES ANYBODY KNOW A SECURE SIGHT TO ORDER SYRINGES FROM? RUNNING A TEST E 250 12 WEEK CYCLE.. THANKYOU…..
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Big Dogg User profile

Yes. Draw both into the same syringe. Dont mix them in the vials. Just draw them together every time you inject. Make sure you have big enough syringes.
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Hi, I`m getting ready to start a cycle of GP oxy, GP deca, and GP sust. I was just wondering how I should schedule those injections and oral tabs? I didn`t know if it`s safe to do 2 injections back to back or if I should do them days apart? Thanks!
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Will User profile Expert

Injections are completely based on your preference. Back to back, same syringe, whatever really. Would take the oxy 60-120mins pre workout on training days. I normally don`t take orals on rest days. Good way to stay away from the sides.
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RJB16 User profile

Agreed with Will, I do mine 2x a week and split the injections that way. Oxy is good a stated as a pre workout.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert

With deca and sust you have long esters, so I`d do a twice a week injection schedule depending on your dose, using the same syringe, you don`t want to put more than a few mls of oil in each muscle group, as for the oxy you should be splitting it into two doses an am and a pm dose to give a constant level in your system, and especially on rest days, rest days are recovery days so keep your calories up on those days
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Unc33135 User profile

Spread the injections evenly throughout the week. Put 1ml of deca and 1 ml of sust in the same syringe and inject it 2wice a week, like mon/thurs for example. The oxy take 50 to 100mg a day. Also split that evenly throughout the day.
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evan johnson User profile Expert

Deca/sus every 3 days or 2x a week for around a gram total and anadrol ed for 4-6 weeks in the 50-100mg a day range.
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Smith441 User profile Expert

Susta sand deca can be pinned twice a week. 500mg a week susta, 400mg a week deca and 50mg a day oxy fort 4 weeks
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What`s the benefit of using a blend like this?
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Roid_Head User profile Expert

It`s a mix of short, medium and long esters suppose to kick in quicker within a week where test c or test e need 3-4 weeks.
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Vkpl511 User profile

Some people like the different esters that come with a blend like sustenon. It’s a combination of fast acting all the way through slow acting esters. Like most anything else, there are some pluses and minuses to it — depending on how you view it. Some of the downsides will include not been able to track exactly how consistent your levels are. But, overall, many people like it as a test base
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JMann User profile

Starts working faster, because of fast acting esters, and then on the other end maintains stable blood levels with slower acting esters.
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Drew User profile

If you inject eod you have different Easter hitting you on those days and they build faster in your body so you see and feel the results faster.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

less frequent dosing theoretically lower doses for the same results some have PIP but not me ever. Read the write up for maxtreme test non 10 on this site. great product all i ever use. lots of discussion on susta today just look back and read that write up spot on and explains everything. good luck
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John Porco User profile

3 different eaters so you get a different amount of Test for a duration of time. You have Quuck acting and slow acting esters. I love the mix and have done many cycles with it. I pin 2 times a week and feel great while using. I also get very little sides
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Hi how long does delivery typically take from the Ukraine to US? It`s been a week. I got the tracking number but won`t tell me where package is. Thanks in advance!
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tmbo User profile

hey boss. for me never less than 2 weeks. In the second -third week is generally when i get them on east coast
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Fit_mom User profile

Welcome to shipping from the Ukraine. Lol my last few orders have shipped from there and it takes a few days longer than say Malaysia. The last time I receievd an order shipped from Ukraine was 2 weeks exactly. It will ait in customs for a few days and then get released. Just be patient. I have an order enroute from there now. Good luck
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JB205 User profile Expert

I`ve had several orders with GP from Ukraine. I`ve only had 1 order get close to the 30 day mark. The rest were all received by 3 weeks.
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Matthew User profile

3-4 weeks. I m in SoCal. I order in nov 7. I am still waiting. My tracking has not been updated. I m not worry. It`s prob going to show up in my mail any day now. Perfectly normal. I have 2 more orders in route too.
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Manster User profile

Typically from time of order placement to delivery is 3 to 4 weeks. Its coming.
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile

2-4 weeks after shipping a lot of it depends on how long customs holds it and usps which can really suck. My last order I had 2 packages 1 took 14 days 1 took 35. Your tracking number won’t work until someone scans your package into the computer it will definitely work once it arrives in us and usps gets it it is kind of hot and miss when it is overseas it usually says lee advised for a while on 17 track and usps won’t give any info until it hits the states
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Hi I`ve got another question. What exactly is an off cycle? What do you do and does it depend on what your taking?
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NPC LIFE User profile

Off cycle is exactly what it says. Off everything. If you blast and cruise off cycle is 200mg test and that`s it. You need to come off everything between cycles. I know so many people that say I`m off right now and taking 200mg test, 200mg EQ and 50 mg Anavar. No and no that`s on cycle bro. Don`t confuse lowering dose or changing to a mild compound being off. That`s still on cycle bro. Good luck and be safe
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BABA User profile

Off cycle means you`re not on any sort of exogenous hormones. If you`re blasting and cruising then “off cycle” doesn`t really apply. Blasting means high doses while cruising means low or TRT doses.
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nickname_610 User profile

Off circle when you finished your circle and start pct – chlomid and nolvadex. If your own test is low due to age or other reasons then you do cruising trt low dose of test only 150-200 a week. You need to do a blood test to know your own test before you start circle.
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Traian Bucur User profile

For example me i am on cycle now, i take SUS, DBOL, PROVIRON, when i will stop them i will be off cycle and i will start PCT( POST CYCLE THERAPY), the PCT that u have to make it depends on the gear u use on cycle.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert

Off cycle should be about as long as your on cycle. During off cycle you come off gear to recover and reset so you`re ready for your next “on” cycle. Because I`m 45 I blast and cruise, so my off cycle still consists of 200mg test/week.
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nickname_835 User profile

It`s what everyone is stating, means not on anything at all. No test, pills, or anything of the sort at all. Blast and cruise is different as you are still taking test.
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Hi I ordered some gear and was just wondering how far you inject the needle. This is my first time trying it out.
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patsalos mixalis User profile

welcome friend. i would suggest watching a few youtube vids on how to inject glutes nad delts i find these the easiest, also use 23g 1 1/4 for glutes or 27g 5/8 for delts. Inser needle all the way tap needle and expel air bubbles first
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Kikko User profile

It`s gotta go in the muscle so an inch should do it. 1/2 inch inch of your lean.
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N88 User profile

1.5″ for glutes and 1″ every where else for IM.
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YD1 User profile

Hey bud. It all depends on many things like are you lean? Do you have a lot of body fat. Where are you planing to inject? When I use a 1inch needle I stick it all the way if and only when I inject my quads and glutes. I use half inch for my delts and stick it all the way. You will want to put it in all the way to prevent injuring yourself by moving around the syringe while its in you. Im lean and thats what I do. My advice is to watch some YouTube vids on how to inject. There are many online. Good luck.
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skitt User profile

YD1 said it best bro….. Im pretty lean myself sitting around 9 or 10 percent BG so all I have ever needed to use is 1 inch 25 gauge needle for my glutes then I do 1/2 inch on my delts… again all depending on your body Fat with glutes and Delts I wouldnt go any smaller in length as to what was mentioned… Now no matter what unless you have a huge amount of BF you shouldnt have to go any bigger then a 1 1/2 in length for glutes and 1 inch in delts… With this being your first cycle as difficult as it might be to have to reach around and pin your glutes that is the best place to pin in my opinion.. its a big muscle and can handle plenty of oil so PIP isnt as bad in that area if you get any… Plus if your only doing test E or Test C for first cycle then your only pinning twice a week so do one cheek on monday and rotate to other cheek on thursday and do that for whole cycle.. It give a full week for injection site to heal which is good for your following pin…Again as Mentioned plenty of youtube videos to help out… Good luck and happy cycling… Welcome to the world of AAS… Make sure you have all your on cycle support for just in case and your PCT lined up… Enjoy my man it will be fun
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Metal Mike User profile

Depends on where you inject and your BF. 1-1/2 25ga. for your glutes. 1″ to 1/2″ for delta and quad. You`ll wanna pick up some 18ga for drawing your oil.
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I am running a cycle of deca at 300 mgs a week and 250 mgs of sust as well. I am running this cycle in order to avoid atrophy and improve my healing rate during my recovery after a major shoulder injury, as last time I had this surgery on my other arm recovery was a bitch. So far I am two weeks into the cycle and 6 weeks post operation. I have experienced a great difference in recovery and I am way farther along in my strength/mobility in comparison to last time. My question for you all is, considering this is my first cycle (I know I should of just ran T) and I am running deca, do I need to up the Test sust to balance out the deca? I also heard conflicted views on whether an AI is necessary to run during my cycle or just run my blockers as symptoms occur. I appreciate the advice, and I understand that I should of waited on running anything other than Test, but Deca seemed like a solid healing agent to aid in my goal.
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Rocco User profile

The only REQUREMENT around testosterone is to have at least a replacement dosage to offset the lack of natural production from taking deca. With this in mind, your current dosage is fine, and likely won`t need an AI unless you are expecially prone to estrogen related side effects, which is rare. Furthermore, if you are not working out, there is absolutely no reason to increase your health risk and go well into supraphysiological dosages.
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Manster User profile

You are going to get varying opinions on this especially the ai part. I would inly run an ai if necessary. No need to tax your liver with unnecessary Chems. Also dont go upping your test. If your recivering fine dont try to fix what`s not broken.
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Angel User profile

I agree. No need to up your dose of test. What you are running is fine and may or may not need an AI. You should have one ready to go in case you do develop Gyno symptoms. You will need to run a PCT when you`re done. Also would recommend a low dose of HGH for healing properties. Maybe 2 iu`s a day but Since you`re new to this, stick with what you`re running. Don`t complicate things if this is working for you
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Growbygrow User profile

Always run testosterone 25 percent higher than deca and have caber with ai on hand before taking any of this.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert

Sorry to hear about your injury and good luck with the recovery. Consider adding a low dose of GH for anti-aging and healing purposes but of course do your due diligence in research first and don`t just take my word for it. My initial thought is there is no need to up the test — less is more. Regarding sides, definitely keep prolactin and estrogen in check if you start to feel sides like sensitive nips and so on. Thanks for the question
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ddc2025i User profile

Both Primobolan and Anavar have been used to treat traumatic injuries.
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Hey guys, this sustanon should probably be injected every other day for maximum benefits and stable blood levels because it has the 20 mg of acetate in it correct? I know alot of people say that sust can be injexted twice a week but wouldnt you loose the benefit of the 20mg of acetate thats in this particular sust. Thoughts? Opinions? On those who have used this!!
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patsalos mixalis User profile

I would do it every 4 or 5 days some do it once a week man
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K.D.T User profile

I Usually will dose this Mon Wed Fri but you can do twice weekly or eod it`s really just personal preference imo
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nickname_957 User profile

i agree with KDT i think 3-4 times weekly is best for stable and level bloods, but it is personal reference, you can always try a certain schedule for a couple weeks and adjust according to how you feel
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Dr Scott User profile Expert

I always use sust once a week two at most. Test is test and my levels do not drop appreciably until 10 days post injection. I have had my levels tested at 7,10 and 20 days post injection. By 20 my levels have almost dropped back to baseline. For me 7 is fine i would never do every other day but to each his own, this is just my experience but I have labs. You never “loose” the benefits of the shorter acting esters. It is you test levels as a whole that you are worried about. Make sense? good luck bro. Its just easier and more cost effective for me to run it this way but others may disagree and that`s fine
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YD1 User profile

Whats up. You can do this twice a week. You wont see much stability difference between doing it 3 times a week. The 20mg acetate really wont be felt well for me. I dont kbow how experience you are with test. BM brand has a great deal but they are amps for $29 bucks for 10 amps. Its a straight out deal! Check them out and good luck bud.
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Durdy D User profile

I like to run mine 3 times per week. I`ve found that`s it`s my sweet spot with this product.
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starting my 2nd cycle. Sust 810mg a week for 3 months, anadrol 50 100mg a day for 6 weeks, tren 200mg a week for 3 months. Arimidex .5 every 3rd day and standard PCT of HCG and nolvadex. Using milk thistle for and chitosan for kidneys. Dont really want to hear from you guys that say test only. DRS what do you think?
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Zach Linder User profile Expert

That`s a lot of test man…just my opinion, I don`t see the point in running past 400mg ever…..You`re second cycle and you want to start with tren and 100mg of Adrol..re-look this whole thing over man. IDC that “don`t really want to hear” this, but this cycle is advanced man…and I guarantee you that anyone who has any experience (and actual knowledge about AAS) will agree with me. You will do whatever you choose so good luck and be smart. Also, get rid of the NOlva for PCT, Why does everyone think Nolva is essential every PCT?? Research this stuff guys
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nickname_518 User profile

Honestly bro this is a completely rediculous second cycle. so many things wrong with this cycle since it`s only your second one ever. First, 870mg for a second cycle is way too much ESPECIALLY if your running it with Tren. Second, Tren is not a joke and it can have serious sides and arimidex will not help one bit with that. Third, since it`s only your second cycle I`m assuming it`s your first time running anadrol which means 100mg`s is too much, atleast to start with. All that said, clearly your not gonna listen to any of us and your going to run this cycle anyway so atleast let me try to help you and let u know what I would do if I was in your situation. At the very least, decreases your test (sust) dosage to 2ml`s per week so 540mg per week split into 2-3 shots. The reason being 1) it`s your second cycle and u do NOT need that much test. Using that much test your second cycle is overkill and if u do 870mg now, ur third cycle your gonna need 1,000+mg which is absurd for someone in their third cycle. Your literally wasting testosterone as well as getting into a very high dosage that can lead to much worse side effects. You do not need that much testosterone for ur second cycle. Why use way more then u need to and get ur body use to that much test so soon? 2) when u use tren, your body uses testosterone SO much better. For example, if someone *needs* 800mg of straight test to get good results because their body needs that high of a dosage, incorporating Tren into their cycle will let them be able to use half as much test and get the same results due to Tren letting the testosterone bind so much better then it would without the Tren. So imo, cut your test dosage in half of your going to use the Tren or just to make things simple since u have 270mg sust then do 2 mls a week so 540mg of test and start the anadrol at 50mg a day and work ur way up from there. Also, don`t run hcg for pct as it can suppress your natural testosterone. Run the hcg during cycle at 250 iu`s twice a week. Last but not least, get something stronger than arimidex Incase u have side effects from the Tren as arimidex will not cut it.
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Unc33135 User profile

That is pretty advanced.. just remember when you start using extreme stuff and high doses your going to need to keep up this level just to see gains. Its hard to go back and see results from mild substances now that your body is used to such high levels. If i were you and wanted to see pretty dramatic gains from a 2nd cycle just run test at 500mg and anadrol at 50 to 100mg for weeks 4 to 6. Id do 50mg to start but you seem to have it in your mind you want quick dramatic results so 100mgs tops of anadrol. Save the tren for down the line.
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Bswole User profile

Way to high on everything. But other than that its a solid cycle
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nickname_537 User profile

Personally i would at least double the trenbolone. I never ran less than 400mg to 500mg tren ace per week and I`ve done so for a year non stop and my blood was ok from all the reports. Ldl slightly up etc but doctor never said anything. I`m not saying do as i say, I`m just saying what I`d do if i were you.
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Anonymous56 User profile

Bro this is a pretty advanced cycle. For your second run i would at least drop the tren and the dose of the test as well. You can still make good gains with less compounds. Tren is very dangerous and extreme. Maybe just run the test and anadrol. Maybe some npp
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Anybody know if there is a limit in the amount of rewards credit you can get by answering questions? I know you can only get 10 bux a day by answering questions but is there a limit besides that?
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RJB16 User profile

I do not think there is a limit, I had a ton from gear pics and answering questions for months…..
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K.D.T User profile

I don`t think there`s a limit ben saving myn for 6 or more months and have over 500 so if there is a limit it`s over 500
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BABA User profile

I don`t think there`s a limit as of yet but they may update in the future and this could easily change. They have the right to do so at any time.
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Bswole User profile

I dont think there is a limit atleast i didn`t see anything abot it in rewards.
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Jack User profile

No limit as far as I know which is pretty great. You can save up points to make yourself a nice purchase. Definitely a great give back to customers from 24roids. Can`t combine the rewards with any other discount though except the Product if the week
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

No, there is no limit, but you have to not spam shit answers to get the $10 per day.
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Sust for me is a bit painful. I`d like to do bicep site injections I`m not doing sust what would you guys recommend? I have deca, test e, equ, trenabol.
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nickname_657 User profile Expert

Pin in your delts. You shouldn`t pin into your biceps. You need test as a base. If you don`t like susta, try test c or test e.
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mchilds User profile

Just use one test ester then. I like prop personally. Also not sure what you mean by bicep injection. Not somewhere you should inject. Do more research
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Adam22 User profile

Test cyp and e have the least pip in my opinion but I definitely wouldnt be pinning in my biceps. People do it but if you complain about pain from the ester itself i wouldnt do biceps, especially with that many compounds. Try you glutes or delts
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Charles Blaydes User profile

Use you`re test e since sust is giving you pain, also forget you`re bicep inject you`re glute`s or you`re deltoid muscle those are the easiest places good luck
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K.D.T User profile

Bicep injectuon can be painful regardless the compund but test e can be less painful any thing at high concentration also cause more pip as to what to add that depends in your goals
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JD Cycle User profile Expert

You need to pin large muscle groups, especially when doing several ml at once. If you are drawing and then injecting with the same needle, that can cause extra pain. Pin the gluts with a 25g and you can fit 2-3ml in a single pin and akternate cheeks every other day. The bicep is a fairly small muscle to be injecting regularly. If you`re doing 0.5 to 1ml, you may want to consider delt. You can also do quad, but I get soreness from there.
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Hey guys just put an order in for this last Thursday using Money gram, still sais waiting for approval? Has anyone used Money gram lately to order and if so how long did it take for them to pick up tje payment? I`m not worried because 24roids always comes thrue just curious
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Matthex User profile

You`re good.. trust me, it takes a few days to a week sometimes for approval.. if there is any mishap due to whoever is picking up your money or whatever, 24roids will be sure to let you know work with you on what you need to do.. I to use moneygram and 24roids has always come thru.. sometimes the name given to pick up your payment ends up expiring and you have to go back to moneygram and have your payment refunded to you and then you resend it again with a new receivers name.. but that does not happen often.. be patient.. 24roids always comes thru.. have a great day!!
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Unc33135 User profile

Last time it took me about a week. Anything after that id contact support.
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YD1 User profile

Whats up bud. Usually when my friend send through moneygram it usually takes 24roids 3-5 business days. Also Saturday and sunday 24roids is off so those days dont count. It also depends how busy they are. Once they pick up your order it will go ahead and update. Your ok bud. Trust in 24roids! Thats why I always use bitcoins. Using bitcoins takes about 30mins to an hour to get approved. Next time if you can try out bitcoins. You wont be disappointed. Good luck bud.
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evan johnson User profile Expert

Contact them if it has been longer than a week as that is perfectly normal. That being said it still boggles my mind that some people are not buying their products using bitcoin so now may be the perfect time to start.
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Bswole User profile

Usually 3 to 5 days I think they pick up the money once a week. My last order went to paid in 2 days. Good luck
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seth User profile

MG is the slowest possible payment method because it involves a 3rd party. Give it one calendar week, then contact support.
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I’m about to start a cycle of Sust 270 1mg twice/week and Bold 300 1mg twice/week for 16 weeks. This will be my third cycle and I’m looking for good workout advice for size and definition. I’ve been doing a 4 day split, progressive overload routine for over 2 years. I’ve had good results but I’m just looking for a change to go with this stack. Thanks in advance guys.
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Gymrat_092 User profile

In my opinion boldenone is good for quality muscle mass but over a longer period of time. If you wanna bulk up quick maybe add a oral such as anadrol or dbol. And maybe some deca/npp. I train 6 days a week but most of the results come down to your diet, if you have a poor diet youll get poor results.
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Nashdaddy User profile

Every once in a while i go back to the basics and do a 3 day push pull split but while cycling I`ll run that split back to back in a week and take Sunday`s off. Just basic combo moves to get focused on my form and reel it in tight.
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evan johnson User profile Expert

Heavy compound movements using barbells is the way to go. Definition is going to come down to bodyfat from your diet
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Big Q User profile

As always go heavy with free weights to gain the most strength. Make sure you hit those muscle groups hard and complete. Make sure you squeeze those muscles when you get to the peak of your movement. The bigger the pump the more you will grow.
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Ronnie User profile

Take 1 week out of the month and go super heavy woth all your sets. Make sure you do each set super slow and work until muscle failure. Concentrate on working the negatives of the set as well as the positives to get total muscle fatigue.
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tee bee User profile

At some point you may want to jump on one of the strength routines such as stronglifts, starting strenght, or wendlers 5/3/1 for a couple of months, them move back to your routine of choice after you have broken the ceiling on your major compound lifts.
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Can u pin this twice a week and still get good results
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Zach Linder User profile Expert

Yes, and that is how it should be administered. Google the half life of these compounds man and save yourself some time. Good Luck
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nickname_220 User profile

Yes that is actually the proper schedule. Also it makes it so your not blasting 3 or 4cc in one injection if your at a higher dose
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nickname_556 User profile

Absalutly that is acuaky recommended protocol bye most can even split up into 3 times a week
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Don O User profile Expert

Sure can, twice a week is fine for the GP Sustanon 270.
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Max User profile Expert

Yes, twice a week is actually standard practice for Susta. Its a mix of short and long esters, pinning this twice a week will give you great results
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anonymous255 User profile

Twice a week is perfect. I like Sunday and Wednesday.
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Hello and thanks in advance for your help. I have tested positive for low t and used to get injections from dr but that dr no longer takes my insurance so i figured i would get it and do it myself. Which type would be best to get off here as there seem to be so many. Thanks again
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Scott User profile

Honestly, you can’t go wrong with any of the stuff on 24roids. If you can wait for product of the week to save 50% off on test E or C, donthat. It goes up as POTW quite often. You can’t go wrong with Dragon pharma or Geneza. For faster shipping, the European labs will arrive faster to the states and i would recommend SIS (if in stock) or Aaster.
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nickname User profile Expert

Dragon pharma and Geneza pharma are very popular. People have been using them for years. You can get their test c or test e. There are pharma grade tests from india and middle East for good price on the site as well
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YD1 User profile

Hello, welcome. Dragon Pharma and Geneza never let me and friends among everyone else here at 24roids. But in reality all vendors are great here in 24roids. They wouldn`t represent them if they were not good. Dragon and Geneza has great Testosterone C and E and others but as you mentioned TRT if you live in the states prescribe more Testosterone Cypionate. Good luck bud!
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Don O User profile Expert

In the US its usually testosterone cypionate that is prescribed, as far as brands go theyre all pretty comparable so Id go with whichever goes up on the “product of the week” sale and stock up on that.
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Will User profile Expert

Test E or C are longer esters you can inject once or twice a week. You won`t want to go with Sust unless you`re injecting every other day because it is a mix of fast and slow esters. Which means if you don`t inject frequently, you won`t have consistent and stable blood levels which you`ll want.
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Gaingang User profile

24roids is one of the cheapest and you can guarantee quailty gear from them if your looking for faster shipping one of the Europe labs would be the best option. Ive hear alot if great things about sis and arl russia but unfortunately they are out of stock, hilma biocare and para pharma are awesome as well, but if you dont mind waiting a little longer geneza or dragin pharma are the way to go. But all gear sold by 24roids is legit and top quality stuff. Good luck
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What size needle have you guys used with this? My Rx test c is super thick so I use a different draw needle than I use for injection. Is this thick like that? Thanks in advance
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Will User profile Expert

Ove had success drawing with all needle gauges. Currently I use insulin needles and yes, I have no problem drawing. Insulin needles help with the number of injections I do per week.
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Cameron Griffin User profile

I always use a 23 gauge needle or lower to draw. Most of the time I use a insulin needle to pin it’s slower but gets the job done and less scar tissue
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Robert User profile

I inject in my glutes so I use a 23G – 1 1/2 inch. I also use the same to withdraw the gear, I just unscrew the needle head I used to withdraw and put a new one on to inject.
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Cob User profile

23g and 1 1/2 inch should do the trick
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K Reyn User profile

I draw with a 22 g AND inject with the same pin….no need to switch it up unless your a puss….waste of a needle
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About 6 hours after injecting into my quad, I started getting some post injection pain (pip). I was expecting this due to the propionate. Another 6 hours passed and the pain increased a lot, to the point it was painful to the touch and I was expecting to see a giant bruise on my thigh when I looked. Three days later and the pain isn`t nearly as bad, but squatting down (for any reason) is excruciating. Since I jab every 3.5 days, I`m really dreading injecting tonight. I generally used Test Cyp 200mg/mL with no pip whatsoever. Will every jab be this painful with Sustanon or will it get better? Is there a way to prevent pip or at least shorten its duration? Any tips will be appreciated.
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Maison User profile

Never inject into your quad unless you know Exactly what you’re doing that is one of the most dangerous places to inject due to severe arteries that if you inject into could kill you. I would just stick to your glutes and shoulders.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

I have on occasion cut my gear with Sterile Grapeseed oil USP that you can get from alpha labs on amazon.com. This has helped pip for high doses gear that gives you unavoidable pain. Also you can try massaging the area before and after you inject. Be mindful too of the volume of liquid you are pushing into each location and remember a new site will hurt especially if you are using a thicker needle. It might not hurt to hit that right glute anymore because you built up a fair amount of scar tissue but it isn’t going to be in a new location or one you don’t so as frequently. And as much as you need to rotate sites you can likely get away with two or three sites if the pain is that bad.
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ROBERT User profile

People do alot of different things to prevent PIP. I personally like to do the following. I take a shower prior to injection. Withdrawal your gear into your syringe, put the cap back over the needle. Run it under hot water for 2 minutes, find your injection site and release .5ml every 30 seconds. Once finished slowly pull out the needle then massage the area firmly for 45 seconds. This usually helps for me, good luck.
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K Reyn User profile

Why the hell are you injecting in that spot? Pin that shit in your shoulder and just alternate shoulders every time you pin. You probably hit a nerve or something…..I`ve never done it but that`s what it sounds like.
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N88 User profile

I had pip with that sus 270 by GP the first few times in my quads. If you stick to the outer part of the quad to the right of center there is zero chance of hitting arteries btw. Anyway, after pin 3 and 4 zero pain in quads with this compound. Are you hitting delts and glutes too? I`d rotate if not….delts and glutes have zero pip with this compound for me. Also if you dont have heat coming off your quad you dont have an infection. Lastly, I also hit lats from time to time which is the least painful and zero pip regardless of the compound. I hit the lats with one arm across my chest and pin with the other arm in the meaty part inline of the nipple. Give it try…sounds strange but its the best no pip location and it`s easy to do.
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ViktorN User profile

Try hitting your glute. 25g 1” needle. I bet Very seldom get pip (knock of wood 🙂 and even if there a lump because of my stack I sit on it and rub that lump on the floor and it is good. Hey whatever works!! And I use 22g to 25g. 1” and 1.5”. Some try to warm the vial to help w pip. Try glute first and call me in the morning 🙂 good luck my friend!
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I`m currently on rx Test C 100mg/week TRT and need to know if I should stay on it while on Sustanon 270 every 3 days for 12 weeks? Also, is pct needed since I`m on TRT? If so, what protocol?
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert

PCT is designed to start up your natural test production AFTER you come off all exogenous testosterone. Since you are on TRT, this is not necessary. Test C and Sust are the same compound, with different time releases. So you should stop the test C while taking the sust, then resume the test C at your trt dose 1 week after cessation of the sust.
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N88 User profile

I`m on the same doc prescribed trt. No PCT needed. Also just take the sus…..save the rx cyp for another blast.
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ViktorN User profile

No need to pin test C. Sustanon has a mixture of short and long esters. So test C is long ester also. Discontinue testC until the end of your cycle. Then you do not neeed to start pct. pct is use to get your natural test back but you r on trt. You however need AI just in case you develop sides from test conversion to estrogen. Once done w cycle and back on trt. You can pin 100mg a week. Hope that helps. And good luck my friend!!
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evan johnson User profile Expert

No you do not need trt while on cycle since it is just extra tes and no you do not need PCT if going on trt after your cycle is over.
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nickname_537 User profile

Pct not required for those on trt. Further it isn`t necessary to add test cyp because sustanon has long esters too. But you can if you wish.88
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Bubs User profile

You dont need trt, like other guys said. Good luck, stay safe
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Hello, i want to use this for TRT, not for bodybuilding. Instead of pinning once or twice a week of 1/2 or 1 cc, can i just pin 4cc per month? Thank you.
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Don O User profile Expert

This wouldnt be a good product for that application because of the release rates of the esters. Take a look at Nebido (test undecanoate) for less frequent injections and stable TRT blood levels, its available here on 24roids just do a quick search and itll come up.
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john User profile Expert

The short answer is no. A lot of short esters in Sustanon that will give spikes. I have run them on steroid calculator for you. The best option for you is Testosterone Undecanoate(offered by Dragon and GP on this site), which is test with a very long ester and even if you pin it once a month it can still build up in your system. You can play with the steroid calc and find the best solution for your situation but test Undeca is the most suitable.
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Mtrain User profile

Test Undeconoate is a great solution. On the same note, I have had plenty of my TRT clients maintain stable testosterone blood levels (even more stable than IM injections) by conducting SubQ injections with Test Cypionate. You won`t be injecting near enough oil for TRT for it to cause issues, plus it`s a slow releasing ester and releases even slower from the SubQ process. Whatever your preference
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Vincent Valentine User profile Expert

As others have already stated, Sust isn`t the best option if your intention is TRT. This is because Sust uses a mixture of several different esters that would require more frequent injections to maintain stable blood levels of testosterone, which is sub-optimal and unnecessary for TRT purposes. Testosterone undecanoate is great, as is testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate (although these two require more frequent injections than undecanoate). You can technically use any form of testosterone for TRT purposes, but most users prefer less frequent injections as this leads to less scar tissue buildup. As a side note, most users want to stay in the dosage range of 125mg-175mg of testosterone per week for TRT purposes. I say this because you mentioned doing 1cc of Sust per week, or 270mg of testosterone per week, a dosage that well exceeds typical TRT amounts (although this is highly dependent on the individual user, as some people require more) and puts you at risk of supraphysiological levels of testosterone.
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N88 User profile

The longest test ester would be the best choice and not sustanon. Regardless you`ll have to shoot a high amount to last a month.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

No and Sustanon is not ideal for TRT anyhow as it has very short esters added to long esters. This will spike your blood levels and unless you plan to pin every third day or more often you will have a completely unnecessary and useless testosterone spike that would be better off invested into a longer ester form of testosterone. Something like Enanthate, Cypionate or decanoate. With deca ester you could pin once every seven days at max if you really are forcing the issue but you will have far better results pinning Cypionate every for days. But short answer is Sustanon is better off used for bodybuilding or when you are going to have a benefit of a short ester for working out among your long ester forms. It sucks but pinning every third day is by far the best protocol out there for stable levels. But if you don’t care about that you can of course just do an injection every other week and do a lot of decanoate ester and rely on a long half life to keep you in the zone.
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Does this ship (GP Sust 270) from within the United States?
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ROBERT User profile

I believe they ship from Ukraine and China
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Jay User profile

No, GP products ship from different warehouses around the Asia and Europe and none of the steroids listed on the site ship domestically.
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N88 User profile

No it shipped this past week from Kiev Ukraine. On my door step in less than two weeks and great packaging. I dont know of any UGLs from 24roids that ship from within the US
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nickname_537 User profile

I think I purchased gp products before and no they ship from overseas and I recall they definitely did not ship from the United States. As suggested by others gp seems to ship from the places they suggested. However I do recall reading of at least one user here on 24roids who had a question asking why his items were indeed shipped locally from within the USA. The respondents claimed that there are several warehouses and upon occasion an item may ship domestically, but as I stated earlier my gp items never shipped from within the USA in my instance.
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nickname_225 User profile

Ukraine…would be nice if it was domestic to the USA … shipping is rather fast. 2-3 weeks from order placement
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert

No, these ship from various distribution centers around asia, russian and europe.
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What are the cons of pinning twice a week as opposed to 3 times a week to prolong the cycle a few extra weeks? i bought 3 vials and if i pin 3 times a week it will only give me 9 weeks instead of the 12 i was looking for… i meant to buy 4 vials and i only bought 3. any tips or suggestions. also any feedback on someone who has used this product and what to expect? i have used test e and test p so this is new to me. i am combining it with mhn, not sure what to expect but i am excited!
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Will User profile Expert

Adjust the amount you pin to equal the amount you`re planning to run per week. Pinning 3 times a week doesn`t mean you need to pin a full CC each time. You want to pin 3 times a week due to the fast acting test on the sust blend. So you should still be able to run 12 weeks.
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RJB16 User profile

You can pin 2 x a week and that will take you out to your twelve week. Also as stated it depends on how much you load.
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Maison Jardin User profile

Buy another bottle. Do you wanna run your gear at Unstable levels just so you can run it the extra 3 weeks. Your better off with stable levels and less time on.
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GainsVille_85 User profile

With the longer esters in Sustanon I think you’d be better off running it 12 weeks. Run at the higher dose and get another bottle. You don’t want your cycle wasted cause you either didn’t run enough gear or you didn’t run it long enough.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

What do you mean, there isn`t much difference pinning twice or thrice per week, if the total weekly dosage stays the same. Or are you saying you would pin the same dosage on each pin? In that case, you are just lowering dosage of your cycle and prolonging the cycle. I wouldn`t do that, to be honest. Cycles are made for high dosages and short periods.
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Dan J User profile

Always buy extra vials. ALWAYS. You never know, perhaps you drop one. And also, you don`t get the full amount out of each vial, and if they are UGL, chances are they aren`t full 10 mL either. Expect to get 90% out of it (syringe dead-space, under-dosed vials). Just start your cycle pinning 3 times per week and order now and you`ll get the extra vials in time no problem!
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If I`m running winstrol 50mg with sust 270 will I still gain size or will I just get cut
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D-man User profile Expert

You can definitely gain or cut with any steroids. Whether you cut or bulk all depends on diet. The reason Winstrol is used for cutting is because it will keep you dry. In other words you won`t gain water weight. Sustanon is Testosterone, so of course you can gain muscle with it. The only way to get cut is to cut calories.
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Anonymous User profile

What you get depends on your diet. Susta is a test blend, test will add size if you train and eat right and also help with cutting if you diet
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

You will for sure gain size. Testosterone will always help you gain size so long as you are lifting and eating for size. If you are cutting calories and lifting to get lean than you will get lean but testosterone, no matter what you do, will tell your body to build muscle by synthesizing protein. Adding other drugs will have their own effects like whether it tends to add water or not, but if Test is your base it will tend to be anabolic always.
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N88 User profile

How much sustonon are you running? Sus 270 is a great product and it will def put on size at the right doses. Winstrol is a pretty weak compound and basically how much muscle you put on is contingent on how much test you run
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ROBERT User profile

Just up your calorie intake while eating correctly. You should always put on some weight/size while using test.
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evan johnson User profile Expert

That is going to come down to your diet, training, and how new you are to anabolics.
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If I`m running winstrol 50mg with sust 270 will I still gain size or will I just get cut
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Gregarious User profile

It depends on your diet, training, and calories consumed. Most people pin this compound 3 times per week to keep consistent blood levels. In a typical 10-12 week cycle, you can expect some size gains with reduced body fat. If you are looking to bulk up, stack GP Sust 270 with other steroids such as GP Deca 250 and/or GP Bold 200, along with an oral compound such as GP Methan or GP Oxy. If you are looking to use testosterone during cutting phase, might wish to stack it with compounds such as GP Trens, along with an oral like GP Stan or GP Oxan.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

It depends on your diet, no matter what, you will get some size, but this stack is more for cutting, than for bulking, in my opinion.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert

Cutting depends on your caloric intake. Winny will increase potency of your testosterone for sure. It can be used for bulk and for cut, so how you do it depends on other factors than what compounds you are intaking.
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ROBERT User profile

It really depends on your diet and training. I would up your calorie intake while still eating clean.
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Can I stack this with my trt cyp 100mg/wk, anavar 50 mg/day and ana 1/2 EOD? I feel like when I am using it this way I don`t get the usual pump I normally get until it gets close to do my trt again??? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. . .
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GainsVille_85 User profile

No reason you couldn’t add it in. Your pump issue could be any number of things from your weight and rep ranges to what you’re eating or even when you’re eating relative to when you’re training, or water intake. If you’re doing high reps with minimal rest I would suggest adding in a carb heavy intra workout shake.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert

Kind of a confusing question, you want to “Stack” this testosterone blend, with testosterone cypionate (and anavar). Thats fine, but your are essentially just increasing your testosterone dosage. Also, if you are only taking 100mg per week, this is nothing more than a low end TRT dosage, and won`t create muscle pumps like higher doses or stronger compounds. Likewise, Anavar is a very mild compound, and 50mg per day is a standard low end minimum dosage that (also) wont created noticeable muscle pumps.
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LegacyLifter User profile

You`re really only increasing your test dose as they`re essentially the same thing.
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mchilds User profile

Sure you can take it along with it at that low of a dose. Just add up your test amounts to see where you are at. Could take a smaller dose of sust then.
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ViktorN User profile

Your trt is 100mg per week is test cyp. You adding 5 more tests to it. Like our colleagues stated, you r increase the amount of tests in your system. If u pin only susta 250 at 0. 25ml that will give you 100mg of 5 different tests. My understanding is trt is for therapeutic like well-being and not body building. The susta has 5 tests so you have test w one ester carbon prop has 3 carbons and so on w longer ester chain. Cyp has 8 carbons ester. So the only difference is response time and length on time tests leave your body. Sounds like you want to up the ante so I would drop Cyp and just use Susta 250. I would start with 0. 5ml every 3 days since you r doing 100mg a week. And go from there. This will give you 250mg of 5 kind of tests blend. You would know in a week since you have test a and test prop at higher concentration. Hope that helps. Good luck!!
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LongIslandBEAST User profile

You can definitely stack more Testosterone (which is what Sustanon is) with what you’re taking already. Like others have said it’s just increasing your testosterone dose so you will just be taking more of one thing, albeit different esters. Your pumps could be the way you are lifting so maybe try to hit different muscle groups and change up your workout. You have to constantly confuse your muscles of else they will get too efficient plus remind yourself to focus and squeeze during your reps. Good luck.
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Are sustanon injections normally painful after a day or more after the injection?
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Mike Childs User profile

I would say anytime you put a needle and foreign substance in your body it is going to hurt. Having said that any steroid is going to cause some degree of discomfort. Sometimes hitting just a bad spot can hurt a few days. As long as it is going away gradually you are fine. Some manufacturers use oil bases that some people just can’t handle also so you’ll just have to try different ones and see what your body likes. If I haven’t cycled in a while I notice the first few shots are painful simply because the scar tissue has not built up yet to deaden the nerve fibers yet.
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a. marino User profile

I`ve found that Sustanon 250 injections tend to be sore one to two days after due to the fact that the multiple types of testosterone within Sustanon have a tendency to not want to be absorbed buy the muscle tissue without a little help what I mean by this is rolling a can of shaving cream or anything really to help move the oil into the rest if your muscle
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RJB User profile

As stated above it is dependent on a lot of things. How much gear per injection, what the gear is suspended in and the size of the needle. Also as stated the different types of Test with different acting esthers. Warming it can help and also slow injection rate. Good luck JC
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Don O User profile Expert

Sustanon 270 has some testosterone propionate in it and many guys myself included get more irritation from the propionate than other testosterone esters. If you find its too bothersome then switching to a cypionate or enanthate may be the way to go.
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BB89 User profile

Not painful but more like sore. It`s also worth mentioning susta has test p in it which is known for pips. Good luck
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Gregarious User profile

the pain is normal especially if it is a new site. .. from my experience, glute`s and delta are less painful with sust than quads. use a 1. 5″ I havealso read that if you mix a little Deca with the Sust it will dull the pain.
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