Hey wonderful Naps fam – here is a question on Proviron in PCT with Clomid and Nolva:So assume seasoned agent running just shy of 1g Dragon Pharma testo blend 350(for 16 weeks) split in two doses weekly with Dbol as a jump start for weeks 1-4 and anavar weeks 10-16. Letro as AI. HCG EOD 250 IU. Assume extreme sensitivity to estrogen related side effects and lower testosterone range levels genticaly from before ever touching any AAS ( normal test range to be considered “normal” is 300-1200) – agent considered a 337 out of 1200 prior to any ever AAS. All proper supports in good order. After 16 weeks a two week break.Week 19 -21 PCT of Nolva / Clomid – + PROVIRON??? What are your thoughts on adding in the Proviron in hopes to make PCT more enjoyable? So, it would be using nolva and clomid and proviron. Thoughts??? Thoughts only directly related to the use of Proviron in PCT with Nolva and Clomid please. Thanks!
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BigZ User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2020
I`ve seen mixed reviews on this. Some say no because it actually suppresses your test some and of course you don`t want that in PCT others love running in for free test boost and the libido. I love proviron to be honest try it at a small dose and see how you feel. Everyone`s different
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nickname_256 User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2020
Hey bro. I`ve used Proviron a few times and love it. It`s a personal choice of course but it would help keep your androgen levels higher during your PCT program which is a big plus to me plus also helps keep your sex drive intact. I personally would incorporate it with the Clomid. Good luck man
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 30, 2020
I like mesterlone but i personally wouldn`t add it to a PCT regimen. It more or less an androgen supplement. It has a place but if you`re trying to get your own body to suffice, adding external sources seems counterproductive considering you`re taking SERM`s in the first place. If you want to try it out and see how it goes, report back to the group and let us know. I wouldn`t knock you for trying. Good luck whatever you choose to do.
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Will1 User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 30, 2020
Shooting as straight as possible here, if you take proviron, you aren`t PCTing. Even if you`re taking PCT compounds, proviron is an oral steroid. While weaker, it`s still a steroid and supressed your natural production. It defeats the purpose of PCTing.
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Joeskee User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2020
Proviron works great with pct it keeps ur lean and test levels up so u keep ur gains longer than usual and u will still have a good sex drive with it. Good luck.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 30, 2020
Though mild, proviron is ultimately suppressive and will hamper recovery. After a cycle, will the tiny bump that proviron provides even be noticeable?
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Any body stack with test e and d-bol? Good or bad?
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Bob Johneser User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
Yes, love it for mass gains! Certainly a good idea to have AIs along with nolvadex on hand as thats a pretty estrogenic combo (dose dependent obviousl). There is dbol on sale under the “about to expire” tab, and test cypionate is product of the week right now if you havent already purchased.
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JohnCox User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
Good stack! Just keep some arimadex or other AI on hand to fight any estrogen sides, it`s a must especially with Dbol. What doses are you considering? 500mg/week Test E along with 40mg/day of Dbol would be the typical doseage. But you can start lower and work your way up to what feels comfortable.
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Ant12345 User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
500 test e 250 Sunday 250 Wednesday d bol I’ll run last 6 weeks start at 25 and move up. Have arimadex on hand
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JohnCox User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
Sounds like a solid plan. You would typically kick start with dbol rather than ending with it, but you can run it however you like. I think you`ll like the mass and strength gains from this stack. Good luck brother!
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MattBeard User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
This is what I`m going to try next after current cycle. Will be trying 4-6 week kickstart before continuing with just test. Heard you get great strength gains from it so looking forward to it.
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Kase User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
If your trying to build mass your absolutely going to love this stack. You can take dbol for 6 weeks and if its your first time 40mg is going to give you phenomenal results. You can take 10 in the morning, 20 with your pre workout meal, and 10 later that day/night. If you have liver issues or want to really protect youself run a liver suppprt. Naps sells liv52 and it works really well. Overall the test is going to build you alot of muscle and dbol will give your amazing pumps and put 10-15 pounds on to help with strength! Thats my experience i hope it helps. Stay swole!
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
Yes but just dont run d bol for very long. Your liver will thank you.
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nickname_88 User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
Gonna add in from my experience plus I have never read anyone else running dbol as you say you want to do BUT that does not mean you can`t do what you want… just not the most optimal for what you would most likely want to get out of it…. what is your reason for running dbol at the end?? If you think maybe since it will give you some more gains at the end of your cycle, well maybe but you would gain just as much PLUS keep those gains much better throughout your cycle if you started dbol 1st week and ran for 4 to 6 weeks… At the end, you may gain but once your cycle is over the dbol gains will diminish much faster coming off test, IF you`re planning on PCT.. unless you`re going to cruise but don`t know enough about you and if you even go that route at this time.. I have always packed on the extra weight with dbol great at the beginning of my cycle with test and once done with dbol, kept those gains much longer while running the test, adding more gains as well plus held them longer after cycle this way.. if you`re dead set on your method, have at it but you would benefit much more starting your cycle off with dbol in the beginning.. Good luck..
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Sloganslimms User profile
Answered: Aug 05, 2020
Yes, my first cycle ever was Test E and Dbol… I put on 30 lbs during cycle. Unfortunately the Dbol gave me shin pumps and lower back pumps that were unbearable and I could barely squat or deadlift. Also, cardio was impossible. My chest, shoulders and lats exploded though. I just couldn`t do legs because of the pump.I definitely suggest something to keep your estrogen in check since both aromatize heavily. Remember to vote
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I might have missed it … what`s the doseage?
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 24, 2020
Proviron can be useful at 25mg and up to a high 100mg daily. Every person reacts different. For myself I feel 50mg was good. Others stated 25mg daily was good. Still yet others prefer 75mg daily or even 100mg per day. Start at 25mg and I`d say may 50mg daily will be fine if you needed more. I`m only guessing based on my personal experience although you may require more or less. Good luck man!
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JohnSmith User profile
Answered: Jul 24, 2020
25-50mg. Probiron is the oral version of masteron and is magic at 400mg. I try to replicate that with 50mg a day.
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MattBeard User profile
Answered: Jul 24, 2020
Anywhere between 25-100g a day is recommended. I`m currently using 50mg which seems to be about the standard.
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steveo3194 User profile
Answered: Jul 24, 2020
I`m happy with two 25mg tabs a day taken once a day. I like it for the mild anti estrogen characteristics as I generally dont suffer side effects and dont use things like nolvadex, arimidex, and what not.
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POOKIE2 User profile
Answered: Jul 24, 2020
50 mgs a day is a good starting dose. Proviron is a great support product. It wont make you huge or wont really directly add any muscle but it does lower your SHBG and help harden you up. Good luck….stay swole!
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I can`t find a clear answer on this… I`m planning on running Sust at 350/week and Proviron at 25-50/daily (still undecided) and will go 10 weeks using Nolva and Clomid after. THE QUESTION… do I need to run Arimidex during the cycle???
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JohnSmith User profile
Answered: Jun 14, 2020
The question of whether is need to run arimadex or not is very vague and open ended. Hopefully I can help answer a few possibilities. An ai helps block the aromitization of testosterone to estrogen, this keeping estrogen suppressed. It can self to minimize estrogen side effects but also limit anabolic capabilities, since estrogen converts to dht and is also important. Since proviron is a dht derived drug to will limit sides of that. An ai can also send to keep water retention down from estrogen and give you a harder look when cutting or planning to compete. If worried about gyno only you can cloaked nolvadex. Many people don`t want to lower estrogen when bulking, but that`s up to you and your goals. I take it daily to limit bloat and gyno as I`m very sensitive to estrogen sides.
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Jogger User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 15, 2020
Or at that dose probably not but everyone is different, only way to be sure is bloodwork, if you want take half a pill every 3 days and see how you feel, good luck
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Onyx User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 15, 2020
There is no clear answer as everybody is different. In case you start feeling itching around the nipples you will need AI or nolvadex only. I wish you luck! Have a successful cycle.
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nickname_238 User profile
Answered: Jun 15, 2020
Odds are at that dose you won’t need an AI but you should be prepared and have some in case, you won’t need much if you get a little water retention or nipple sensitivity. You need to have some estrogen to build muscle and for heart health. Proviron will give you a mild anti estrogen effect like masteron.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 15, 2020
No one can definitely tell you if you need AI except from your own experience. Many can run 300mg without AI, but me personally I can`t run over 100mg without A . I am EXTREMELY gyno prone and I ran 150mg and got a lump. You may not NEED it at that dose, but you do NEED it onhand before you start. Once you need it, it`s too late to order and wait. ALWAYS have ancillaries on hand before you start. If you can`t afford it, wait til ya can.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 15, 2020
Here s your straight answer no you dont have to, but have incase you have to. Theres nothing like finding out you need it and not have it.
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Traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 15, 2020
At such low dose u may not need an estrogen blocker but u never know, so is better u have some on hand just in case, i run higher doses so i must take an AI during the cycle. U keep your PCT at 4 weeks and the dosages are: Nolva 40/40/20/20 and for Clomid 100/100/50/50. Dont forget to vote.
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I`m not sure where to post this question but here it goes. About to start my next cycle on Monday. I`m very disappointed because I got my blood work done this week and Dr said my cholesterol is at 225 which is high and keep in mind I`m 38 165lbs eat clean for the most part and work out hard 5 days a week so for my cholesterol to be high is disappointing. Also my liver enzymes are slight high. My AST is 63.0 and ALT 59.0 I`m about to start Test Cyp 300mg a week Tren E 200mg a week and proviron 50mg a day for 12-14 weeks. I do and always have ran N2Guard which is a cycle support packed with 40+ vitamins and take omega-3 daily so I don`t understand my high cholesterol and high liver enzymes. Any advice I would really appreciate it. Everything else on my blood work was good Dr said
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Zilla User profile
Answered: Jun 04, 2020
AAS always negatively impact cholesterol and liver function. Sometimes it takes awhile for levels to return to normal. I would suggest postponing your next cycle until your body fully recovers. If you do decide to go back on cycle you should expect your blood work to get worse
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 04, 2020
So AST and ALT is actually found in much greater concentrations in the skeletal muscle then the liver so strenuous exercise can and does elevate these even when not on gear. For some reason docs never mention this. I am not at all saying this is what is going on and until you do further testing, maybe PTT or other actual liver function tests i would assume the worst. The mild elevation may indicate fatty liver disease, damage from alcohol, tylenol or some other outside source you didnt mention any of that so im assuming its not a problem. i would also get some liv52, NAC or TUDCA and absolutely keep an eye on this as gear will almost always cause some degree of liver damage. How much is largely variable on the individual, drug and dose. Obviously stay away from all booze, tylenol and anything else that will insult the liver while on gear. in terms of cholesterol -lifestyle and diet are controllable but at the end of the day genetics always, and i mean always wins the day. I`m thinking of a vegetarian triathlete friend of mine whos total cholesterol always is above 400mg/dl. Sometimes you just get dealt a bad hand genetically speaking. the good news is that his HDL is also very high so maybe that makes up, you didnt mention yours. Im sure lots will tell you to try natural stuff like red rice yeast and whatever and that has its place, high dose niacin works really well to increase HDLs. but natural stuff (including liv52, tuca ect) will only take you so far and natural is not always better-poison ivy, arsenic and tornados are natural so… You may want to consider drugs like bile acid sequesterants like gemfibrozil or HMG coA reductase inhibitors like lipitor. All have sides and should probably be considered for life. Anyhow, you are probably not the best candidate for gear but those levels are only mildly out of range (but still higher then mine even when on the heaviest cycle) but if you stay on top of it and remain proactive you should be ok. I know i got kind of long winded but this stuff is really important IMO, sorry. best of luck
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Jogger User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 04, 2020
I agree with the others bro, also cholesterol is affected by genetics, I am 44 cycling for a few years and it’s perfect, eat plenty of veggies apples up the cardio and keep an eye on it bro, good luck
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Branko User profile
Answered: Jun 05, 2020
I don`t know if your willing to try, and it`s not going to be the most popular answer, but do a little research on cardarine (gw501516). It`s not a sarm, but a ppar delta agonist and doesn`t affect sex hormones in any way. This research compound has shown to be one of a kind in that it improves cholesterol and cardiovascular health while increasing fat burning. I`ve noticed amazing endurance on it…like I could do a whole workout over again if I wanted…obviously I don`t haha, but it does some amazing things. Not to scare you but being up front, you will find that there was a study on rats conducted where they were given ten times higher dose than a person should take, and for two years straight (it`s usually cycled 12 weeks or so). Also the species of rats used are known for being susceptible to cancer ….so take that info how you want it. I take it, and it improved my cholesterol. Actually running it through PCT and time off to keep a boost and intensity, along with mk677 (growth hormone secretagouge). But anyways, do some reading and watch some vids on it, there is a ton of anecdotal evidence and research. Just thinking outside the box. Narrows labs and proven peptides carry it and are quality. Hope this helps, good luck bro .
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So I`ve gotten so much mixed reviews about proviron. Is proviron something I can run from the beginning of cycle all the way until the end? Also is proviron something I can take on pct and also bridge with after pct for 3 months until I start my next cycle? What`s the best dose a day I should take?
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Big Jake User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
I really like proviron, it`s super mild oral. You can take it for your full cycle and it will improve your level of free testosterone by binding to SHBG receptors. 50mg is the recommended dose, I`ve read that higher doses make little difference. I take 25mg daily on TRT even and definitely see a benefit. I believe it shuts you down to some extent so you probably don`t want to take it during PCT or bridge with it or take it without taking test. It`s super mild on the liver so I personally have no problem taking it for long stretches where most hepatoxic orals I like to limit to 4 weeks personally. Anavar might be a good choice for a mild oral to take off-cycle.
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jackes User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
bro proviron is a great drug, it helps your body have more test to utilize, you can use it is its not very liver toxic at all but it does effect cholesterol however, as for pct studies say yes and no, me personally like pct to be free of any drug although it will boost libido and increase sperm count so its your choice
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
I agree with Big Jake on this one. 25mg works well for me, but my buddy doesn`t even see much on his blood work unless he is taking 75mg per day. It`s very mild, but I would not take this during pct….I wouldn`t really take anything without a test base at all (including var). Good luck
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Pookie User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Yes you can run it the whole time and into PCT. Keep in mind that proviron is only a support oral and will not provide any direct muscle building support. I personally would stop the proviron after you are done PCT. Minimum effective dose is 50 mgs a day…25 AM 25 PM. Good luck.
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S-C-J User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Different bros will tell you different things, but modern school of though says that “bridging” between cycles is bad practice. Despite being REALLY mild, Proviron is still somewhat suppresive to your natural testosterone production, and therefore counterproductive to recovery and time off. A another way to look at it, the incredibly minor, barely noticeable benefit that proviron might provide does not justify the risk.
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Patriot User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Now that I`ve started taking proviron on TRT, I can`t imagine not taking it. I run 25mgs a day if Alpha Pharma brand from Naps and it adds to well being. I would run it for the entire length of the cycle. Good luck.
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I know this is a dumb question but I`m on pct right now and I tried taking proviron to help wit my sex drive and it`s not working is there anything else I can take to help wit my libidio that won`t mess up my pct
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Frank User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
How long have you been on PCT? What are you running right now besides proviron? Clomids? Nolvadex? HCG? I`ll assume you`re running at least clomids for now. If you`re running a 4 week PCT it could take an additional 2 or 3 weeks to get back to normal. If you can provide more information we can give you a better answer. Hope that helps.
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Pookie User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Unfortunately many experience low hormonal levels while on PCT….takes a bit to get back up to speed again. Cialis and proviron normally do the trick to get it going until your natural test comes back.
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Simonak User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
I usually do a tapered down dose of test for my last few weeks of my cycle, usually just a half CC per week, along with my pct. It seems to make the pct a little easier. For me anyway.
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Jacob Eaton User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Your natural testosterone has to come back your body will take a little bit to get back to normal. Proviron should help but you just need time you can try cialis or viagra. What did u do for pet if u were running a heavy cycle hcg is a must 5000 to 10000 ius should help that and Nolvadex and clomid good luck
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barclord User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
HCG and clomid/nolva will help but you gotta get of the HCG after a few weeks, same with Proviron, only in the first couple weeks but continue the SERMS for about 4 weeks. Naturally, you can combat some of the symptoms by controlling DHT with something like Saw Palmetto. Tribulus helped me slightly in increasing sex drive in that situation. The guaranteed good result will come from just time off of everything.
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bobby User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
libido will come back soon bro, that also depends on what compounds were used, how much proviron did u take try 25mg twice a day or cialis and viagra bro
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SPARTAN075 User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
there are no dumb questions on this site.. Thats what this Q&A is for.. We are talking about meds on here.. Good Luck…
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Quick question! I` take 250mg test E a week but I want to start a cutting cycle. I was thinking about getting Masteron, 350mg each week but I`m curious about this proviron. I dont know much about it but I like what I reading. Would it be a good cut stack to run all 3 of these? Test 250 we, mast 350 ew, & proviron? If so how much proviron each week? & how often?Thanks!
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Shark User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Yes, proviron is or should be always used in a serious effective cycle. It inhibits estrogen enough where there may be no need for an anti estrogen. Killing your estrogen is never good. Reducing it is ok. Also proviron also lowers shbg. That allows your other steroids to be more effective. Some get good results on only 25mg per week. I`d suggest 50mg daily but never over 75mg per day. But each person is different, start at 25mg daily it`s a pill or tablet and go from there man. It`s good for libido too.
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steveo3194 User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
I always run some sort of test as the base of a cycle. If I`m running a sixteen week cycle I run test the entire time even if it`s a low dose at times with stronger compounds. I would leave the master on for the end of a cycle especially when your cutting and have pretty low body fat because masteron make you look hard and tight and paper thin skin. With proviron I run it the entire time as well due to its extremely mild nature and because it has all those awesome attributes like anti estrogen, freeing up testosterone and making other compounds more effective. Proviron really doesn`t do much for gains though. If I were you I would run an average amount of test, preferably propionate along with some tren. And of course the proviron goes along with it. You might not be into to heavy of cycles but, think about running the test along with tren and winstrol. Ultimate cutting stack!
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Pookie User profile
Answered: Apr 14, 2020
Proviron is ran daily at 50 – 100 mgs. I`d start with 50. Adding 350 mgs of mast will pretty much do zero to build muscle but will help indirectly by lowing your SHBG and increasing your free test values. It wont hurt running both mast and proviron but I`d pick one and double up on your test. A 250 mgs per week of test + 350 mgs of masteron + 50 mgs daily of proviron will harden you up if already sub 15% but will do very little with building muscle. It`s a wasted cycle in my opinion. I`d rather see you run test and EQ and proviron vs the other three. good luck
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Hey guys. I cant order any sort of tablets due to getting them seized most of the time so I`m restricted to buying vials or amps only as these seem to come through customs ok. My question is which are the best products (not tablets) to lower SHBG? Liquids only please. Thanks guys.
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Barry Gibson User profile
Answered: Mar 27, 2020
Since vials arrive for you, I`d say masteron and winstrol v as well or winstrol Depot.
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Traipse User profile
Answered: Mar 27, 2020
I agree masteron and vials of winny would do that but know that lover your SHBG to low gives reminiscing returns and that you do not want it to be zero. So adding in some primo is what I would do on top of some cypionate or enanthate test.
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Tony User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 27, 2020
Any DHT based compound like Masteron or Primobolan can lower the shbg. Buy few vials of Masteron E since its much cheaper than primo.
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Dht User profile
Answered: Mar 27, 2020
There are a as lot of dht drugs. Inviting injectable versions of owls made by gp. Mast, or drol
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 27, 2020
Masteron is the obvious answer, but it`s probably just coincidence that pills won`t go through customs. I`ve never heard of that happening.
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jason User profile
Answered: Mar 27, 2020
Masteron or winstrol would be the best options I can think of. So weird not being able to get pills.
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Anyone got any word on when Naps will be back to normal? All the GP and DP products show coming soon and it`s been that way going on 2 months now. This seems to have been going on to long already. I need to place an order ASAP
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EDubz User profile
Answered: Feb 24, 2020
Nobody on here has a definate answer for you on that one. We can only hope it`s soon.
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Mike User profile
Answered: Feb 24, 2020
No one knows and everyone is worried, I think it will take a few weeks hopefully, but the virus just spread to Italy so who knows
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nickname_802 User profile
Answered: Feb 24, 2020
Zales, if you aren`t looking for proviron or GP/DP specifically I`ve had success with Biomex. Ordered a bunch at the beginning of the month when they had the big sale made through customs earlier this week and should be here within the next few days.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2020
When the big complication is the virus. If it stays as a problem, shipping will likely be shut down for awhile with any brands manufactureered or shipped from China.
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Feb 24, 2020
China is the big hold up….No one knows when it will be back and running..
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ThePony User profile
Answered: Feb 24, 2020
I`ve got a ln order pending since Jan 7 with products that were available at the time, and ship date was pushed to March 6. I`m presuming things shoild be back around then
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Does anyone know what’s going on with Naps? I’ve been wanting to order some products but GP shows everything is out of stock and shows coming soon ??? How soon is soon? Lol. I looked under DP and the same thing is going on everything shows coming soon. I’m starting to get worried, is Naps going under?
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JMann User profile
Answered: Feb 10, 2020
No one knows the exact time line, shipping is being pushed back since the virus outbreak in Asia. Also Chinas new regulations on sarms and steroids.
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Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 10, 2020
No one on here can give you a definitive answer. It`s out of stock everywhere. Best explanation is the the Chinese`s new year halt all production. Employees visiting family back home. Then the coronavirus make traveling back to companies an issue. It could be many things but going under is not the reason. Just wait until they restock. I think things are going back to normal in a week.
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Feb 10, 2020
First it was the Chinese New Year and more it`s the Corona virus. I placed a large order two Fridays ago and an still waiting for shipping details. At the time none of the products I ordered were out of stock but by that Monday they all were. I`m not too worried yet as Naps costumer service is always top notch and I`m sure they would say something otherwise.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 10, 2020
The latest theory is that raw materials to make steroids, originating in China, are held up and not shipping because of the coronavirus.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 10, 2020
Hey Zales, no one knows when items will be back in stock. Apparently the distributors have been backed up with shipping and there`s been issues in china but I`m sure it will be resolved soon. NO, naps is not going under. Naps has been around a long time. Thanks for the question
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Dromeo User profile
Answered: Feb 10, 2020
Naps isn`t going anywhere. We all believe that this corona virus is the cause of these delays and availability.
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Is it a good idea to add GP Proviron with my pct?or just take the pct on it`s own
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Anonymous 467 User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I honestly have never heard of anyone using it and i have never used it myself. The info days it would be good for PCT but i try to keep things simple with as little drugs as possible. Good luck bro
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I would not add proviron to a PCT. Do the PCT alone in order to regain endogenous test levels faster.
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nickname_756 User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Proviron is used by some during pct mainly for sex drive but it`s still suppressive and delays pct
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Tiger User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Even proviron is slightly suppressive to your natural test production, so only take your pct drugs during pct.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Proviron is just like other AAS, just much more mild. If you`re running this during your PCT, it`s not a PCT. You`re still suppressing your levels to an extent. Run a correct PCT of Nolvadex, Clomid, and/or HCG and that`s all. Don`t try fooling yourself in thinking you`re off when you`re really on. That`s when you keep health markers out of range longer and can mess with your body.
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Growbygrow User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Doesn`t make sense because proviron is a ass..so should you af tren to your pct? Just my opinion
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could i use proviron with sus 270? i did notice some shedding of the hair towards the end of my last 270 cycle so i didnt know if adding provion would amplify that. also just wanted to know if it would be beneficial.
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Short answer, yes you can. Provirion can make a great addition to any cycle, but do not think you can take it to replace your AI. Nothing can replace an AI.
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BABA User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Proviron is a DHT derivative and all DHT derivatives or steroids that have high androgenic qualities will progress hair loss if you are genetically prone to it. If you are not genetically prone then you could still experience hair loss with a high enough dose.
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B Rad User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
You can definitely add proviron to your test cycle and it will add a slight “edge” but it will not help with your hair loss since its DHT with a methyl group slapped on there, it may indeed amplify hair loss since youre prone to that.
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Proviron is an excellent compound. Won`t help with hair loss at all
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anonymous255 User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
It is very beneficial. It will make the testosterone more effective and give you a harder more quality look. It’s very low in side effects and therefore a great product in in opinion. If you were shedding from sus in the past then most likely you will shed from sus and proviron. I think it’s best just to try it out and stop if you don’t like it. Start at 25mg a day and then bump it to 50mg if the sides are not bad.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
As someone who values a decent hairline, I would stay away from proviron. We are basically tied to only a few select steroids that have minimal hair loss side effects, and proviron isn`t one of them.
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What is the recommended dosage range while: 1. On cycle program?2. During post cycle therapy program?Thanks in advance!
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N88 User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
50 mgs a day while on at a minimum ….25 am 25 pm…add a third 25 after a few weeks if you wish. This will help boost your free test and harden you up. The anabolic rating is pretty much zero for this but it`s a great support compound. It does help lower estrogenic sides but you still need an AI. Yes some do take it during PCT but really i recommend you taper off….keep taking the same dose into PCT (14 days after last pin) then taper off. I btw eventho this is super mild on the liver still take liver support and get your enzymes checked halfway thru the cycle just to make sure. Proviron has ZERO effect on my liver but just be safe with it.
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K-Nine User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
I do 50 mg daily on cycle, 25mg in the morning and 25 mg at night. I don’t personally use it for pct, but I’ve heard of that being a thing for others.
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Whats up bud. I use provirion in all my cycles and trt. On bulk cycle i use 25mg a start then raise to 50mg split during day. When im on trt i juat stay on 25mg. That right there ny man works great for me. Good luck.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Hey friend, 50mg is a good dose and will create that hardening effect. good luck
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Split 25mg x 2 a day for 50 total. For PCT, none. Gotta cycle off and give body a break.
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Johny User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Start off with 25mg a day and increase to 50mg a day on cycle. Better to split dosage bc of half life
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Hey guys I have a question about proviron. I`m going to start a cycle with test cypionate, eq, and var. is it ok to run proviron with these compounds and when to run it and mgs a day? Ps I`m running the car the last 6 weeks of cycle of a 14 week cycle. Experts I need good advice
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Yes provion 25mgs per day Ed thru cycle will be a nice addition for sure.also it is said to help with estrogen sides mildly
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Bradley Ouzts User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Run the Proviron separate from the Anavar. Run the Proviron the first 8 weeks then stop and switch to Anavar. Proviron at 25-50 mgs per day. Based on your weight. IMO you probably won`t get much production from the Proviron, but I don`t know your Test or EQ dosage.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Yes you can add proviron to this take it at 25-50mgs Ed throughout your cycle.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
I love running proviron during my cycles. I run it the entire cycle and will usually use 25mg for a few weeks and then up to 50mg and back down to 25mg. I split up my dose into two halves.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Yes it is fine to run with them. Use anywhere from 25-50mg ed.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Oct 14, 2019
Yeah I ran 50mg a day but always separate my orals. Plus there`s no real point in doing var and proviron together since they are similar in some respects. I personally like proviron at the tail end and var up front.
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Will Proviron be a good replacement for clomid in a PCT? Thanks for your advice.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
No. They are totally differnet, Clomid is taken to get the natural production of LH and FSH back online while Proviron is a DHT steroid and is suppressive
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Scott User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
Absolutely not. Need clomid/Nolva.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
Absolutely not, in fact to a small degree, proviron is still supressive to your natural testosterone production and should techincally not be used during PCT as it will hamper recovery. A good alternative to Clomid would be Nolvadex (aka tamoxifen), which is cheap and made by many labs. Take it at 40mg per day for weeks 1-2, then 20mg per day for weeks 3-4, make sure you buy roughly 840mg total.
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Anubis1027 User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
You will need clomid to stimulate the lh and fsh but proviron will helps lower estrogen and free up your free testosterone
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
You can take both per Geneza clomid description. For PCT and estrogen control.
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Marcus User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
No! It can help a little since its not suppressive up to 100mg a day but its still a steroid. Clomid is different thing.
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My shbg is already low at 21. Should I take this and risk if going even lower?
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
21 is the lower end of normal but isnt always a bad thing as it allows more free testosterone. Are you on cycle right now and how long will you be taking proviron? Technically it`s job is to free up even more testosterone which is a good thing. Once you come off cycle and proviron your levels will balance out.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
The lower the shbg, the better for building muscle cause it releases the free testosterone that’s bound to shbg freeing it to work better for us, I’m a huge fan of taking proviron or another dht androgen during cycle to help lower shbg and have more free test to build muscle more effectively. Careful with dht’s tho because if you are prone to mail pattern baldness, these drugs will aggregate and possibly speed the process of hair loss.
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Wow User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
I suggest you to not risk it considering your age, better go safer
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
If you do take it then inject more often as you`ll be going through gear much quicker. Also watch out for gyno symptoms as you`ll convert more estrogen. I personally have an SHBG of 6 so I`m speaking from experience.
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Microbeast User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
We need more information in order to accurately give you a prognosis. Proviron will not drive your SHBG in the ground like an AI could do with E2. I consider Proviron essential to a Test cycle. It has a greater affinity to bind SHBG than both Testosterone and Estrogen. Once it binds the Test you injected is free to go to work and sense that DHT derivative binds so well Estrogen cant attache its either, it`s a beautiful medication. In laymen`s terms, it works synergistically to amplify your Testosterone. My best advice is to take 25mg per day and you`ll be as they say GTG. Proviron is a steroid however its literally known as the safest steroid, safer than Anavar, Primo and Test mkay….
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
I wouldn`t do it. If it`s below the normal range. Your body already doesn`t bind the hormones so they are free to roam, you already have them at your disposal to work on your body. I`d use this product only if your SHBG is high.
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My first cycle was 500mg a week of test Cypionate only for about 20 weeks which was probably to long followed by pct with clomid and nolvadex for 6 weeks. My second cycle was test Cypionate at 600 mg a week and kickstarted with d-bol the first 4 weeks at 30 mg a day split into 3 doses morning lunch and preworkout, this cycle was 12 weeks followed with pct clomid and nolvadex for 6 weeks. I’m getting everything together to start my third cycle in 2 months and this is what I’m thinking about, test Cypionate at 400mg a week, EQ at 600mg a week, kickstart fits 4 weeks with d-bol 30mg a day split into 3 doses. After the 4 weeks are over with dbol I was thinking of adding proviron at 50mg a day split doses. Week 8-16 I was thinking of adding anavar 50mg a day split doses to clean up and harden up the muscle. Should I continue my proviron along with the anavar up to my 16 weeks? Also I will be using N2Guard to support liver and kidneys it’s actually an all in one support. Any advise, comments, concerns? Thanks in advance
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
I would drop the proviron and stick with the kickstart and anavar. Proviron is pretty mild on the liver but taking orals at those dosages for 16 weeks straight isnt a good idea. Do the kick start, take a break from orals then finish with anavar. Maybe do a 6 week anavar vs 9. It`s been forever since taking N2G but just ensure you take tudca, natural support like whats in liv52 and start milk thistle post orals for the kick and var.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
I`d recommend slowing down. This is only your 3rd cycle and you have 2 injectables and 3 different orals. Test you`ve ran at 500mg in the past, so I`d recommend running at 500mg again or bump up to 600mg. You haven`t used EQ in the past, so don`t just start at 600mg. Start at 300mg for this cycle and then increase in future cycles. Running higher doses means you need to continue increasing and increasing to get results. Don`t waste early cycles with moderate or high doses. Orals, I`d recommend running dbol again and this time maybe kick it up to 40-50mg. Proviron you haven`t used before, so start at 25mg. Save 50mg for a future cycle….same as what I was saying about higher doses than necessary with new compounds. Also, take proviron when you start your cycle. You can run that much longer and it`s quite mild and not toxic. Leave anavar out and run in the future cycle since you`re already at 2 orals for this cycle. Progress the most on the least. This is a marathon and not a sprint.
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John User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Your cycles are long. Did you do a blood work to see if your numbers are back to normal after 6 weeks after your first cycle? 20 weeks must have put your balls to a pretty good sleep. On the upcoming cycle take 250iu of HCG twice a week while on cycle to keep the testicles from going to sleep(and your pct will be much smoother). Var and Proviron are mild on the liver but D-bol is c17 and liver toxic. If you are certain on running the orals for that long just do a blood work and check your enzyme levels. I would say ditch the Var but you can run the Proviron for SHBG control.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Agree with will, out of the gate you are already pushing the boundaries and breaking the basic rules of cycleing. First in for most, you should be limiting your cycles to 12 weeks. No reason to run a 20 week cycle, especially the first time. Also, time on should equal time off plus PCT. so if you run a 12 week cycle, you should technically be taking 16 weeks off until starting your next cycle. At this point you really need to take a break and run some blood work and see where you’re at. If you insist on continuing to cycle, Equipoise is a good natural next compound.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Liv52 is good and affordable for pct on top of Tudca (you may not need Tudca with liv52 but maybe if you have extra money and wanna be safe). Proviron is mild so you can run it because it lowers shbg enhancing the effectiveness of other steroids plus its a mild estrogen blocker which is good because men need some estrogen for bodily functions as well as steroids build more muscle with estrogen. But as for other orals just cut them out for now because you only need them as a kick start (unless you just cannot wait a couple weeks to see results).
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Yes It sounds like you now what you are doing and I would do what you mentioned. Although maybe give your liver a bigger break between the dbol and the anavar. Anavar is still liver toxic although not as much as many other orals.
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Is it ok or advisable to take proviron and mastering in the same cycle or unnecessary? Should it be one or the other?
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
You can combine the two of them. Both are excellent hardening agents. Proviron will be most noticable when you`re already lean and adding it. If you still have a good amount of bodyfat to lose, it won`t be that noticable.
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Dalton Carpenter User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
it is not useless if you are a low body fat, you will def be able to tell
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
I am pretty sure these are regarded as the same compound but one is injectable and one is oral. I would say generally you will only want to run one of these two as it will be a waste to run them both. There is really no benefit to using both in the same cycle.
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smalldres User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
Ive done them both within the same cycle. You will get nice hardening effects from both of them
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Big E User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
These compounds are basically one in the same. There is really no point in taking both of them at once. You can if you choose to but it`s really pointless for the most part. I personally would rather take proviron rather than inject masteron.
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
If you do both it will help with hardening and vascularity.
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I have a buddy who swears by this stuff, but I’m finding a lot of competing info as far as it’s best and most ideal use/effects. somebody school me upon how you have found it to be best implemented in a cycle, and what results you got!
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ROBERT User profile
Answered: May 04, 2019
I would look into Anavar instead of this. It might be a little more expensive but you will get what you pay for. Sorry I wasn`t much help but maybe you might go the Var route if you read up on it.
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Gregarious User profile
Answered: May 04, 2019
Anytime is an ideal time to use proviron, from day one into the PCT. It is a pure androgen and will be a good addition to a cycle with deca for example, so you could still get it up when you need it. It is also an AI, very weak though but I`ve been on Test e @ 500 mg/ew and only taking 2 tabs of proviron per day with no estrogenic side effects. It is also good at the beginning of PCT to continue giving you hard ons until your natural T levels restore.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: May 04, 2019
It is best used leading up to a bodybuilding composition for maximum conditioning. It will also reduce SHGB making your other steroids in your system more effective.
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Tren Man User profile
Answered: May 05, 2019
Proviron is a DHT. Simply being in the blood stream it attaches to SHGB and as a result there is going to be less SHBG to attach to other steroids you are taking making them more effective. There are other DHT compounds that are better, Primo for example does the same thing, mild anti-estrogen and reduces SHGB but it also builds muscle.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 05, 2019
Proviron on its own is VERY mild and the effects will be almost unnoticeable. It`s primarily used to amplify the results of other steroids being taken via the reduction of SHGB, and has a slight effect on estrogen (decreases). Think of it as the cherry on top of a complex sundae. If you are new, I would table this compound until you get more advanced and are running multiple compounds. Advanced users love it, but the price /benefit is pretty low compared to other compounds.
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: May 05, 2019
Proviron doesn`t do jack and it also has been linked to some cancers, so stay clear. Take other dht steroids which are little more expensive but at least are little anabolic
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Really need some help and advice. I’m 37 years old and Im not really even sure where I should be posting this question but I thought here be a start. So I have been having erection problems. I am on Test Cyp at 500mg a week and on week 10 of my 12 week cycle. I’ve noticed that lately I don’t get as hard as I use to. Honestly I’ve been having this problem even before I started my cycle. It’s like I get hard but I don’t stay rock hard like I use to. Once I go in I start to get kinda soft and don’t stay rock hard. I don’t really even wake up with morning wood like I use to. I wake up with an erection but it’s soft. I tried 2 packs of proviron at 50mg a day which I ran for about a month or so. I didn’t really notice a difference on my erections. I just want to get rock hard and stay rock hard all through Intercourse. Is there anything here on Naps that might help? Or dies anyone know of a male enhancement pill that really works? Please I would greatly appreciate any help and advice.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 25, 2019
Enhancement / erectile disfunction drugs are just a band aid and don’t treat the underlying cause of the problem. Are you taking an aromatase inhibitor such as arimidex or aromasin while on cycle? If not, your issue could be as simple as elevated estrogen. Lab results could tell you look for sure, but high estrogen could certainly cause this issue, and it would make sense that it has accumulated and increased over the course of your cycle. Personally I noticed that when I have elevated estrogen, my erections get slightly softer, as well as the weak morning wood. Are you seeing other signs of elevated estrogen such as acne, water retention, flush feeling?
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 25, 2019
All of the available ED drugs such as viagra, levitra, and cialis are excellent products and will bring you back to 100%, Ive tried all of them and can say they all work wonderfully. Check out the bulk ED trial packs, they are very affordable and come highly recommended.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: Apr 25, 2019
You need to get bloodwork done. Check your estrogen, check your cholesterol. What’s your cardio look like? Remember, what’s good for the heart is good for the penis. ED drugs treat the symptom they don’t address the cause.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Apr 25, 2019
I wouldn’t worry about what other drug to take, I would see what your estrogen level is and other pertinent labs depending on your previous cycle history. Too low or too high estrogen is most likely the culprit.
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TxManwithaplan User profile
Answered: Apr 25, 2019
Three things help me (at 39) naturally keep rock hard, every time. .. .. .. 1: Keeping my Body fat reasonable. I have noticed when I`m below 20%, erections are much much better. 2: Keep caffeine usage in check. Caffeine is a natural blood vessel restrictor, meaning your erections could suffer if you are sensitive to it like I am. 3: SLEEP, dicks just don`t work without sleep, bro. Again, these are my NATURAL suggestions that have worked for me. One more thing. .. .. .. try supplementing with pomegranate and eat watermelon. Trust me:)Cialis works great also but f that if I can do it natural. JMO GOOD LUCK BRO
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Apr 25, 2019
Cialis 5 mg every day or 15 mg every 3 days. You can thank me later. Also get your e2 in check.
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So I was was thinking about getting Var but I was readying that Proviron is better and obviously more affordable. Has anyone experienced with both Var and Proviron and can tell me the difference and which is better? I’m on my 6 week of test cyp 500mg a week. I’m about to add EQ200 at 300mg a week for the next 6 weeks left of my cycle. I’m just really curious about Var and Proviron and what each brings to the table and which is better for whatever reason. Thanks
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Vincent Valentine User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 26, 2019
When it comes to AAS, the term “better” can be grounded more in perspective than fact. While some compounds are objectively more capable at producing specific results than others (like winstrol being a better hardening agent than, say, deca), claiming one compound is better than another is usually more subjective opinion than fact. All AAS have positives and negatives. Without knowing your goals, personal statistics, training regimen, diet, or other important factors, I can`t tell you which compound between anavar or proviron would better suit your specific needs. Proviron is known to aid in muscle density and hardness, increase the potency of other compounds in a stack, and act as an AI (aromatase inhibitor) in the body, making it a solid compound to add if you`re a bodybuilder in a pre-contest phase. Anavar is a mild compound known to be less harmful on the liver than most oral compounds, produce lean muscle, provide strength increases, and is the primary choice for female bodybuilders because if it`s low tendency to produce negative side effects. If you want an oral compound capable of adding muscle, anavar might be a better choice for you. If you`re looking for a more hardened and dry look, proviron might be better. But diet and exercise play into a cycle much more than the compounds being used, so keep that in mind! Also, I`d run the EQ for more than 6 weeks to allow enough time for the compound to produce noticeable lean muscle mass.
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ROBERT BERG User profile
Answered: Mar 27, 2019
Proviron is sometimes seen as a blocker, but that doesn`t mean it can take the place of adex or aromasin. It will free up more testosterone, meaning you will be getting a little more efficiency out of the testosterone you`re running. Whether that`s a necessary thing for you or not I`m not sure, it can also help with hardening, and libido, but if you`re having issues with libido on 500mg of test then there`s other issues. Var while it does harden as well like proviron, does so through a different method. There are a few studies suggesting that Var can aid in loss of stomach fat, but to say they`re proven would be a stretch. Var`s most desirable effect, in my opinion would be the strength and muscle retention while on a cut. It will allow you to keep your strength and muscle mass while in a deficit, assuming you are dieting and training properly. You could get Anavar right now at a cheaper price as it`s the item of the week. Try checking that out as it`s only available at the discounted price until April 1st.
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 27, 2019
Anavar is much better for muscle building and proviron is more cost effective for lowering SHBG. If you want to add lean tissue then theres no comparison, go with anavar at a decent dose. If youre already running a high test cycle and want to lower SHBG to free up some more testosterone then go with proviron at maybe 75mg per day.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 27, 2019
The two are not really comparable compounds. Anavar is a very mild steroid taken primarily to maintain strength and muscle while cutting weight, while proviron is essentially a compound taken with other steroids to increase their effectiveness. You could run an Anavar only cycle, but would never do so with Proviron only.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 27, 2019
Proviron is almost entirely a contest drug that provides a hardening effect. It does little to match the muscle building and fat loss that comes with anavar. While they shouldn`t be compared, they can definitely be stacked together as part of a cutting cycle.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Aug 14, 2019
Anavar builds slow lean muscle and not much. It`s quality gains. However proviron builds nothing. It sharpens your physique as long as you`re already low in body fat to begin with. It blocks some estrogen and promotes excess water from accumulating. It`s great at reducing shbg. So proviron enhances other steroids by lowering shbg. They both work differently. Proviron is a great add on to steroid cycles. Anavar is costly and often faked but great for cutting as a muscle preserver.
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500 mg a week test cyp 250/50 mg anavar a day for about an 18 week cycle. Recommended proviron dosage? On cycle? Post cycle?
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D-man User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 19, 2019
This looks like a great cycle. The addition of Proviron is a wise choice. While on cycle, I would recommend 50-100mg of Proviron per day split into two doses am/pm. I know some people use this during PCT, but studies show that this will suppress your Luteinizing hormone.
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drlsuper87 User profile
Answered: Mar 19, 2019
If you`re going to run it the duration of the cycle I would opt for the lower end of the spectrum (50mg/day). 18 weeks is a fairly long cycle, be careful not to plateau and end up wasting gear towards the end. Diet and discipline in the training will help get the most out of it.
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T-dog User profile
Answered: Mar 20, 2019
Make me a list of already said this looks like a great cycle, but as the other guy said I would keep it on the lower end of 50 to 100 mg a day as it is still an oral and this cycle is pretty long.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 20, 2019
Yeah definitely don`t take it during PCT, especially after a long cycle like that. Now if you were going to cruise it`s a good way to use a small amount of drugs and make the as effective as possible. The guys above are right on with the 50 mg daily dose but it can be used at the beginning and end of the cycle as the drugs build up in your system. Example at the start of the cycle take 100 mg proviron daily for the first 2 weeks of the cycle. Then taper it down to 50 or come off completely if your want. Then pick it back up at the end of the cycle and taper back up to the 100 mg and run that right up to the start of PCT. This allows your drugs to have the max effectiveness and gets your estrogen in a good place to start PCT.
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 20, 2019
Im a fan of 25mg 3 times per day while on cycle, for me it seems to keep the compound a bit more active since its not methylated, and its not stressful on the liver so running a bit more isnt a problem. Proviron isnt typically used for PCT anymore so Id leave it out, we did use it back in the day but it was mostly because that was the old school method.
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BB89 User profile
Answered: Mar 20, 2019
Orals are heavy on your liver and you are doing pretty long cycle so just keep that in mind
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What dosage would be advisable
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Adam Glinski User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2018
50mg a day split dose if just enough but ppl take it up to 100mg a day ….i take it with almost every cycle at 50mg a day
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 28, 2018
Standard proviron doses fall in the 25-75 mg range
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Enzo Alvarez User profile
Answered: Nov 28, 2018
I personally use Proviron strictly for PCT because it`s great at creating an androgenic environment while not interfering with your HPTA at moderate doses; several medical studies support this. This is excellent news as you don`t want to suffer libido issues during PCT neither you want to interfere with your HPTA restart. For this purpose I personally use 50mg daily, you can go as high as 100mg but start low and see how you feel. If your plan is to use it during cycle for some of the hardening effects then same rule applies. The highest dose you should use for this purpose is 150mg but not higher.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 03, 2018
The half life of proviron is around 12 hours. A good recommended dosage is 25-75mg per day; though, I have personally never exceeded 50mg a day in a stack. unfortunately, studies have shown proviron does suppress LH (luteinizing hormone) – in some cases. As a result, high proviron dosage can prevent the pituitary gland (aka HPTA) from recovering after a steroid cycle. So it is not advised for pct use it is however a compound that stacks well with others.
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Matthew DeFulvio User profile
Answered: Dec 10, 2018
I prefer to take it somewhere between 50 and 100mg a day depending on my budget for the cycle. I have found a sweet spot of around 75 mg a day to be most effective for least cost. I prefer to take my dosages 1/4 of daily dose upon waking, 1/2 daily dose preworkout, and the other 1/4 dose around 7-8pm. This helps remain the most stable blood levels which will allow the drug to take its effects most vividly.
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Eddie Haul User profile
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
Some people start at 25 to 100mg start low and work your way up.
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Hi. If I was to add Proviron into my test/ deca cycle would that mean I would not have to take anastrozoloe as the Proviron is an anti estrogen?
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Briam1974
Answered: Jul 08, 2018
Depends on how much test you use and it`s very individual. Anything over 500mg for me and I`d need 1mg anastrozole with every test shot, proviron or not.
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anonymous_526
Answered: Nov 11, 2018
I would definitely advise taking an ai still but not everyone needs one. I always do
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Griffin Condon User profile
Answered: Nov 25, 2018
Proviron does have anti estrogenic effects, but personally I run an AI with test, which I take as TRT (continuous)…its all quite personal, but for ME the ideal stack/situation is to run 25mg 4x/wk 50mg 3x/wk Proviron, 125mg Sustanon 2x/wk, 12.5mg Aromasin 2-3x a week and 250-500iu 2x/wk.
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John Black User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2018
I would use the Proviron first to see if works for u before taking a al because both affect your lipids so why take both if you don’t have too. Just depends on person and how sensitive u are to Gyno. 500mg of test really isn’t that high so I would just start with the Proviron first if its not enough then throw in some arimidex. And for the deca You would need to use caber Proviron and arimidex ain’t gonna help with the prolactin Gyno.
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tawnya hills User profile
Answered: Dec 23, 2018
I have to use an ai as well running test over 500mg per week. As far as noticeable results from proviron is massively increased libido, especially if I`m running deca/test cycle. An added bonus of proviron is the ability to free up bound test. I`ll run proviron after 4 weeks into a 20 week cycle, one tab per day for 20 weeks, so 4 weeks continued after the cycle. Ive entertained doubling the dosage but am pleased with the results at one per day. ill be point blank honest, sex with proviron is on another level, without on cycle not much interest. have fun!
