I`m about to run this test E!! But I`ve heard about tren and the physiological sides. Has anyone experienced any with oral tren?
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nickname_311 User profile
Dude, oral tren is even worse. Anything oral affects your liver. I would recommend injectable over oral. Remember to vote up
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Nickname577 User profile
Just because it`s oral, does not mean it has less sides. You have to worry about your liver with oral. Injectable Tren is your best bet. I would not recommend taking oral Tren more than 4 weeks, if at all.. I wouldn`t take it personally..
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
I`m guessing you mean you are about to run tren e? Either way no oral tren isn`t really that similar to injectable in terms of side effects or results. However, it is still very liver toxic.
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Will1 User profile Expert
Oral tren is more toxic than injectable tren. If you`re going to run it, go with the injectable version of it. And the side effects are person dependent, however tren is a strong compound and most get at least one of the negative side effects. Aides include acid reflux, shorter tempered, issues sleeping, lethargic, might kill your appetite. The fat loss and strength gains are nice but I don`t recommend taking it unless you`re advanced with your cycle background(meaning you`ve tried just about every other compound first) and/or prepping for a show. The later, you`d likely be working with a coach and they`d have told you everything to expect already.
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Opengyms User profile
I would never take oral tren, definitely injectable is the way to go if you want to run tren. Your kidneys and liver will be taxed out in a few weeks tops.
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NathanielCastro User profile
Thanks for the feedback guys!
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Would this be to much to stack with Test E and Dbol? Want to run:Test E – 500mg per week, weeks 1-10Dbol – 20mg every day, weeks 1-5Oral Tren – 500mcg every day, weeks 8-10I know both Dbol and Oral Tren are liver toxic, but I have a huge collection of liver support supplements and I`d be giving a 2 week rest on the liver in middle of cycle. Do you think this would be ok or is it too much for one cycle?
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Heavy Lifted 91 User profile
Personally I would not do that. I wouldn`t even run dbol for 10 weeks, much less throw in oral tren into the mix. At that point you`re just asking for problems. Run them separately in different cycles. I`m not sure if you think by running multiple orals you`ll gain twice as much mass, but it doesn`t always work like that. Especially not at the cost of ruining your health. This isn`t a sprint, it`s a marathon.
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Shnicken User profile
You misread my question, Dbol would only be run for 5 weeks with the Test at start. Then just the Test for 2 weeks. Then the Methyltrienolone for 3 weeks with the Test. Would never be takin 2 orals at once and would be giving a 2 week break between the orals. Trust me this isnt my first rodeo, I`m not looking to double down on my gains, I`m looking to harden up my gains from the Dbol/Test on the last 3 weeks of cycle.
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Shnicken User profile
Weeks 1-5Test E 500mg per weekDbol 20mg every dayWeeks 6-7Test E 500mg per weekWeeks 8-10Test E 500mg per weekMethyltrienolone 250-500mcg per day
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Zilla User profile
Not a great idea my friend. Even with a 2 wks break from orals, your liver will definitely feel the strain. Oral tren is extremely toxic. If you are determined to use 2 orals in the same cycle I would suggest substituting proviron for oral tren. Proviron makes a great finisher and is relatively non-toxic
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Shnicken User profile
Thanks man appreciate the response. I will either try the Proviron or just do the Dbol/Test E without the oral Tren. If I`m dropping the tren what would be the max length I should run the Dbol? I know most people run it 4-6weeks but can you go longer?
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Uhoh38125 User profile
Fuck dude, DBOL and TREN are so serious! Just asking, have you tried Winstrol Depot for hardening? The shit is amazing. I get mass, square shoulders, square traps, and a very layered look, even with too much body fat….. and i get all of that fast. I just flushed DBOL, the shit made me crazy. I just think there are better ways…. Maybe other people have a different experience. definitely best wishes to you.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Those liver supports don`t do anything while you are taking the orals. They help the recovery but while you are on orals, your liver goes into a death spiral trying to break and unbreakable molecule like oral tren, so it increases the enzymes but still doesn`t break the oral tren so it increases it again and again and the by products of those enzymes are what is toxic to the liver and it drowns itself in its own toxic. If you bought a lot just save them for your future cycles, orals are good up to 2-3 years after expirations.
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Yeah I kinda figured that. Lol! Please watch the video I recommended. Don`t make the same mistake many others make. I ran AI`s religiously until I watched that video. My gains have been insane ever since. Better late than never. And like the other guy said, you won`t need it anyways in this cycle. Nothing you`re taking aromatizes. Of anything you`ll want some dostinex on hand for progesterone sides thy come with tren. Same with that though. Don`t take until sides present themselves.
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22265uh User profile
Tren A is amazing and you will see major results and your game and strength as well as vascular. GP Labs is where I get mine and I have an order that is going to be shipping or soon. I know that you have to drink plenty of water with any steroid that you are taking but Tren typically has some huge side effects if abuse.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
So your going to take 2 orals, only. The harshest one ever, tren, and turinabol. Well I would worry about an AI beciase neither cuase estrogen. Might need caber but I doubt it. So after about 10 day a you natural testosteron will probably be next to nothing. That will give you all kinds of unhealthy sides. You need. A low dose of test. Even 100mg per week. If you can get that they you might get some gains on this cycle. If you dont then you wont see much at all or at least wont keep the little you get
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MegaCycle User profile
Try to limit the number of orals at one time. Orals are very harsh on the body
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Cyclone User profile Expert
This sounds like the perfect recipe to ruin your liver, while getting very poor anabolic results. Stop now before you hurt yourself, if you not ready to inject, your not ready for anabolic steroids.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
I tried to answer question on other but got answered before I could submit. Long story short run the oil not oral. Pin it with your test and don`t add any thing else. Tren is way stronger than any other compound. More is not better.
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What`s the dose for eight week cycle ?
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.50 caliber User profile
never used this but looked into and 8 weeks is to long they say 250/500 mcg for about 3 weeks. dont hurt yourself it aint worth it
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Drew User profile
I would start with 250mcgs for the first week and see how you feel than up it to 500mcgs if you feel you can handle it.
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Ryan User profile
Assuming this is your first time with tren then just 250mcg will be more than enough and dont run it for 8 weeks, use it forr a kickstart to a cycle instead
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Jackson User profile
Agreed with bro`s. Minimum 250 and Maximim 500mcgs. I stay in this for 4 weeks to 5 weeks maximum. Take some live52 for liver support and drink a gallon of water per day
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nickname_889 User profile Expert
You can`t run oral tren for 8 weeks. Run tren e 200mg/week instead for your first tren cycle.
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Growbygrow User profile
Well stated .start at 250 and see how you feel and if it is tolerable then try uping the dose but you will gain from the low dose if diet is correct with intensity in training.no reason to run high dose.also run test base atleast 500mgs wk
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Do I take this every day for two weeks
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N88 User profile
Would recommend another oral. Some take it up to 4 weeks but it`s not really that good compared to other orals and is super toxic. Injectable tren is way way better if you want the tren effects.
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Will User profile Expert
If you opt for this, it would be daily for 4 weeks. But oral tren is very harsh and toxic. Would recommend injectable tren or a different oral.
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Kevin Cox User profile
Like the others said it`s harsh usually 4 weeks , not the first choice but it depends on your goal it`s going to be a short term strenth gain but you may feel bad on it.
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Fit_mom User profile
I guess others didn`t read the part in the description that`s states 2 to 3 weeks. Good luck with this. I really like tren a. Good luck
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Yes everyday maybe split dosage if possiable drink lots of water start on low.dose
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mchilds User profile
Every day for 2-3 weeks. I wouldn`t recommend taking this either. Use var at a little higher doses. I recommend GP Var.
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How much would i take i f i were doing 400 mgs a week of the ace? Does oral tren work well?
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Nick nolan User profile
Not sure about oral tren ive never tried it. But definitely take some liver detox pills with it. Tren ace is usually 100mg so inject 1cc eod for a total of 400 mg per week. Also make sure you grab some caber to take care of raised prolactin.
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
You wouldn`t. Oral tren can`t give you the results of the injectable period and you can`t substitute the oral version for it.
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nickname_537 User profile
Oral tren is hepatoxic. Use the injectable. I use 1,000mg to 1,200mg tren ace weekly. Most get side effects and cant even handle 300mg or 400mg per week. I use nothing no caber whatever and never any issue. Everybody is different. But start at maybe 300mg per week and you might one day handle 500mg tren ace per week.
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Joe Hodgins User profile
Like the other guys have said start at 100mg eod and definitely get some caber. You may not need it but if you do, your gonna wish you had it.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Do not run injection tren and oral tren at the same time That is asking for trouble and it`s plenty alone no need for both.you would causeore damage than gains
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
If you were already injecting, stick to injecting. Oral tren is some very harsh stuff. If you choose to take it, make sure your liver support meds are one of the highest quality.
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Hi. I`ve been loading test cypionate 250 about 1ml a week for 5 weeks and am ready to start the oral Tren cycle. My question is simple. Should I take liver support during or after the cycle, and if after for how long to clean me out?
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B Rad User profile Expert
Definitely run liver support while taking the orals and if it were me Id run them for an additional month afterwards just to be extra cautious.
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TKel9 User profile
I agree anytime you take anything oral its going to effect the liver so always make sure you take a liver support during and afterwards.
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tits4test User profile
I wouldn’t take orals without liver support and like b rad said, I’d go at least 4 weeks after
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Dude User profile
avoid excess pain killers or NSAIDS–like tylenol and advil that can also affect your liver.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Damn dude, I think I felt my liver and kidneys shutter from just reading “oral tren” lol! For this, I would recommend taking not only a liver support, but an overall, thorough cycle support as well. Trenobolone, regardless of delivery or ester, stays in our systems much longer than previously thought. So stock up and take your support supplements from beginning of cycle, to the end of post cycle therapy. If you can swing the expense I`d even go a beyond PCT and taper off of them. Sounds like overkill? Absolutely. But in every cycle your health is the foundational concern
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Beard User profile
That shit is harsh. U need to take it before during and after. Last time I tried oral tren my shit hurt no matter what n I had to stop it. But ur taking such a low dose of test why not just double that instead. U seem new to this
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I have used injectable Tren quite a few times. Are the results from the oral similar, or am I going to be disappointed?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
No, nothing is going to match injectable tren, even oral tren. While it is similar structurally the strength and mass building are not even close. Not to mention, being a very toxic oral it can only be run 6 weeks max. It can be an effective part of a stack, but if you are expecting the results of tren ace or enth you are going to be disappointed.
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RJB User profile
Agreed that it would be an effective part of a stack. but it would not be as injectable Tren. So if you can handle the side of the injectable I would suggest that.
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smalldres User profile
It`s not comparable to injectable trenbolone and trenbolone is a harsh compounds as is. Ingesting orally will put a lot more strain on your liver than injectable.
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D-man User profile Expert
You will be disappointed for several reasons. First of all, you would only want to run this for 2-4 weeks tops. Why go through everything (organ support, caber, PCT, etc. ) for a 4-week cycle. Second, you would definitely want a testosterone base, so why would you take the tren as a pill? Just mix the injectable tren with your Test. Finally, the results of oral Tren probably don`t even come close to injectable tren.
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ltl trucker User profile
Injection is always the best option, as it doesn`t need to be broken down by the liver. You keep more bioavailability of the active substance, with injection vs oral. You will want should still take your organ support supplements. Also taking a dorm of test, as your base is always a good idea
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Always, ALWAYS, go for the injectional option. Even when choosing what other steroids to run, always go for injections. It`s actually safer and less taxing on your liver. And bioavailability is much greater.
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I was wondering if oral tren does a good job on cutting body fat? I was thinking of getting Var but it is so expensive and I was wondering if the oral tren would be more affective and affordable way to go about it instead of Var? I have never experimented with Tren before so I was thinking the oral would be a good start to try before considering the injections to see how my body tolerates it. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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drlsuper87 User profile
Oral tren and injectable tren are two different things. Oral tren is also one of the more toxic orals available. Has it`s place, but I would say moreso in the aggression arena similar halo. Other orals to consider would be T3 or clen. Having said that, T3 will also eat away at your muscle, so if you are not running some testosterone with it could prove to hurt more than help. You`re right to stay away from tren for a while as it`s one of the harsher compounds, but there`s a reason it`s still around, it`s extremely effective. Steroids isn`t something you do once and go from slim computer nerd to greek olympian, when it comes to physical goals your diet and workout (cardio) will prove more beneficial than anything you run. These are to aid in your goals once the other two have been practiced and dialed in, it won`t ever replace it, else there would be a freakish amount of very well sculpted people. Reason steroids do or don`t work for someone comes down to discipline.
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RJB User profile
Well said, it does come down to discipline. I think as stated above T3 and Clen would be a good choice. Oral Tren is very toxic so you might want to steer clear of that. Just got my GP Clen and on day 3 it has turned my body into a blast furnace. Maybe consider that. . . .
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ROBERT BERG User profile
Anavar is the product of the week right now and you are able to get it at a very fair price. It will be much cheaper right now then any Tren. Its Geneza 50/10mg pills.
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Mike Childs User profile
Tren ace would be a better “starting tren compound” but then again many feel enanthate is even less harsh. But there is a reason you don’t hear about oral tren much, there hasn’t been much experience with it on the streets yet and it is going to tax your liver. Var would be much safer and able to get the results you are looking for. Like someone else said, it’s on sale half off til the first. Get it while it’s hot
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evan johnson User profile Expert
If your goal is to lose bodyfat, then tren ace is the way to go. This product is strong no doubt but you can not run it as long and you will not keep as much of your gains.
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DN5 User profile
I have used every steroid on this site except for Halo and that is it. I have used a ton of tren in my day. Oral tren is a whole different monster. It is the only steroid i have taken that i could feel in my head. Not in terms of violence but i just felt different while taking it and it gives like a mental withdrawal effect when finished which i have never experienced with other compounds. Now my brother used it and is a big tren user and described the same feeling but we could not put our finger on how to express it. I did use higher doses than some may. I like the compound personally in short bursts. But i can not in good conscious advise anyone to use this as their first tren compound. It is too strong. Too harsh. It works. But as far as fat loss you can do it with diet and other diet drugs. I just got really strong fast on this stuff. Again i would advise against the use of this as your first go around with tren.
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How would I go about cycling this? How many tablets a day and do I take with Just liver support or liver support and milk thistle
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Alexander mahoney
250-500mcg/ed for 3 weeks max. Split-dosage during the day go with a stronger liver support and get a good pct, you should be running test with it.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
In terms of cycle duration, four weeks is the standard length that most users limit themselves too if not shorter. Any extension of this time would absolutely necessitate continuous blood tests conducted by a doctor, something that is a good idea no matter how long a user intends to run this drug. Of course, individual response to the drug and the liver function of a user would also factor into how well a user is able to tolerate methyltrienolone and thereby run the drug. As for dosing, since little research has been conducted using methyltrienolone since its first production we are left to use anecdotal information to determine exactly how much of the compound one should administer to see its benefits as well as limiting the side effects. Doses ranging from 400-800mcg a day split to keep it circulating for male users are quite normal for most. And yes with all orals even mild it is better to take a liver support to cover all bases tudca has shown to be the best liver support out there.
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Prototypex27 User profile
It would be better to use oil base tren but if you want to do the orals you`ll need,a,even spread over the day no matter the dosage you choose. Plan to take the same amount 3x per day. Yes use liver support. Better safe than sorry.
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Would love to hear somesones experience with this. How long you cycled, supplement taken to offset sides, PCT… any help would be appreciated.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
While I haven’t personally used Geneza MT I have used it before from another lab, results were as you’d expect from tren but without the crazy dreams and ridiculous sweating. You get incredibly hard and you shrink those fat cells to a level only comparable to a tren/clen contest prep. MT is not for a novice so if you haven’t run tren before don’t try this, the typical cycle with this would be 4-6 weeks and I advise using low doses trust me 250mcg will get the job done this stuff is extremely toxic to your liver and I have personally seen ppl develop jaundice from it. With MT you need to be taking caber to offset the prolactin issues like tren and even tho it doesn’t aromatize an ai is crucial to mitigate estrogenic sides. A liver and prostate supplement is vital so Tudca and/or nac and saw palmetto. Pct should include hcg the last few weeks of cycle at 250iu twice a week and either nolva and/or clomid at 40/40/20/20 or 100/100/50/50
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Do I take the oral tren every day or 1 to 2 times a week
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Jason
Every day but try to keep the OT cycles very short. No longer then 3-4 weeks.
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nickname_537 User profile
You need to take it daily. Use no more than 4 weeks. It`s harsh on your liver, all orals are. Liver causes no pain or symptoms when damaged. Only once it fails and you need a transplant and are close to dying you`ll feel the symptoms. Feeling fine means nothing, both the liver and kidneys have zero pain and zero other symptoms while they are failing, but you`ll get sick and in pain after they have failed. Stick to injectables. Injectables bypass the liver and don`t strain it. The only injectable that still hurts your liver because it`s alpha alkylated 17 is winstrol depot, but all other injectable steroids are safe on your liver (not all injectable medications are safe on your liver but only injectable steroids are with the exception of winstrol depot as mentioned earlier). If you use orals responsibly in short cycles and in reasonable amounts and rest a couple months between oral cycles and do no more than 2 or 3 oral cycles of short duration (4-6 weeks depending on the oral, example anavar is so mild you can run it up to a maximum of 12 weeks) then you should be fine. But oral tren is harsh, do maybe 4 weeks never more than 6 weeks but stick to 4 weeks to minimize liver damage. The damage on 4 weeks if any and there should be some at least is within range of the liver recuperating during the next 2-3 months. Good luck, hope this info helps.
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Joe Longo User profile
Every oral steroid will need to be taken at least once a day most of them two or three times per day is the most effective as the half-life is 8 to 12 hours I would take tren in the morning and late afternoon
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Yes take orals everyday.4 to 6 week cycles . Don`t run more than 3 times a year maybe twice
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anonymous255 User profile
Take this every single day for 4 weeks. Take one pill in the morning and one pill in the evening.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
take it daily for 4 weeks as its liver toxic split dosage 1 pill am one pm, stay safe