Does anybody know if it is a water based solution?Can you just drink it instead of pinning?
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
No you cant drink it. This is somthing you want to pin in an area like your love handles like spot injections supposed to help burn local fat. Not sure if it can do that but that`s what people say be careful with it it`s good stuff
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
No. This get injected. You`ll want 29 or 31g insulin needles. You`ll inject into the subcutaneous fat.
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nickname_100 User profile
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
No Sir> these substances are designed for injecting IM only> If you drink it will not be effective and will interfere GI tract. Just like injectable w-strol as some people seem to be using as a sublingual>>Not recommended
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Onyx User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
No you can`t drink it it is intended for subQ administration. Good luck!
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
Some people drink Winstrol because it`s a C17 alkaloid and can survive the stomach acid and liver but not sure about this Clen-Yohimbine mix.
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BillySantos User profile
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
No you cannot drink it, it will have no effect because it will not survive the liver.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
I have heard this rumor that you can drink this product. It`s just clen HCL and yohimbine HCL both i have taken orally back in the day, so you probably could. But the whole point is to inject it into stubborn areas to remove those fat deposits (not sure i believe that anyhow but that`s not the point) and how the people who make it recommend you do it. So you probably could but why? and it`s not how the mfg recommends using it. I dont think id bother and If you wanted to do that just get the clen tabs and Yohimbine drops and use those. good luck
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Slon User profile
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
I just ran out of clen and have some helios laying around. I don`t believe in spot fat reduction. In fact it didn`t work for me so why bother pinning – bruising, getting lumps when you can just drink it?I don`t see a problem “surviving it in a liver” since it is same chemicals compound that is used in tabs only deluded in water. That what I wanted to find out actually. Is it in fact deluded in bacteriostatic water or some other crap that may make it not drinkable.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 01, 2020
Oh ok i see your point, and tend to agree. The bacteriostatic water is only 0.9% benzyl alcohol and used in hospitals to dilute drugs used IM, SQ and even IV so i cant imagine unless you are a tiny infant (they avoid all bacteriostatic preps in the little guys under a month old) that it would be a problem drinking it. Obviously, if you do make sure you adjust the dose, you wouldn`t want to drink the entire 10 ml vial (a standard clen tab is 40mcg or about 1ml of this prep if memory serves). good luck.
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DO YOU INJECT HELIOS INTO THE FAT OR MUSCLE
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 06, 2020
Hey Palmer, this is a good question. I would assume you inject helios IM but reading the description it talk about spot reduction in fat. I don`t believe spot reduction is possible but that`s another question. My answer is IM but I could be wrong. If I were to use it I would inject it IM but I`m interested to hear others` answers. Thanks for the question
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EDubz User profile
Answered: Mar 06, 2020
Inject sub q around belly button in fat. Not IM
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
Answered: Mar 06, 2020
It`s a sight injection steroid for example if you are to lose fat in your side then inject it in your side into the day
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Taylor User profile
Answered: Mar 06, 2020
Its injected into the certain fatty area in which you want to focus on fat loss.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 06, 2020
Inject Clen mix subq. but if you are a newbie avoid it for now. Clen can damage heart permanently, there are people on heart meds for the rest of their lives because they messed with clen when they were newbies. Its up to you
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novadesert007 User profile
Answered: Mar 06, 2020
Will be in stomach same as HCG. However you gotta start low this will be intense
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Some say start out with 40mcg per day? And then saying .5ml? Using an insulin syringe right? So how many iu`s is 40mcg. Thanks
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Skuchie(2) User profile
Answered: Feb 20, 2020
The product states, 10 ml (40 mcg/6 mg/ml)), so .5cc will be 20mcgs. Since your going subQ, and probably using an insulin pin, then .5 cc will be 50units on a 100unit syringe. Fit_mom will hopefully chime in and answer you about how much to use(dose), I know she`s used this product several times, my answer is to just help you measure the amount.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 20, 2020
Be careful with this stuff. start at 20mcg and ramp up by 20 every other day or so until you hit side effects. Remember that you have to cycle two weeks on, two weeks off in order to be safe and effective.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 20, 2020
Skutchie and cyclone are right IU is a relative term and different for different compounds, clen is not measured in IU`s you are likely talking about units most dose this product according to the clen which in this compound is 40mcg/ml so 0.5ml (50 units) would be 20mcg. So if you want 40mcg then 1cc (100 units).
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FatDadstack User profile
Answered: Feb 20, 2020
Honestly I would start with 20 mcg mbecause that stuff is strong you can always work your way up I found that the more I do just gave me more side effects like any drug you can still burn fat without getting the Jitters and shakes which will happen make sure you`re drinking lots of water that stuff seems to flush you out it burns fat but it doesn`t that cost anxiety tension all common side effects of that compound but it works it`s not that I`m sensitive just how it is I also found that if I run 12.5 micrograms of T3 with 40 micrograms of Clen I get just a bunch of benefits is running just a just a bunch of clen
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
Answered: Feb 20, 2020
.5 mcg is 20 ius… But taking insulin really screw you up if you don`t know what you are doing… There other alternatives like taking a insulin menic like slin to shuttle carbs and nutrients to your muscle for growth… If you aren`t stepping on stage please look into this
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 20, 2020
It`s potent so definitely start low to see how you respond. Increase accordingly
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Anyone have lumps after injecting that stay there for months?? Every time I inject i feel the lumps on my love handles and abdomen. Not painful. Kinda sore when I press on it. Is this normal?
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 14, 2020
Yeah that`s normal. I use to have areas bigger than the size of my hand.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 14, 2020
Yes that is normal especially if that is where you have been injecting as you would with GP Helios. It will go away eventually.
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Dromeo User profile
Answered: Feb 14, 2020
For months? That’s not normal. Could be scar tissue from the injection. What gauge pin are you using? I’d go smaller.
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nickname_88 User profile
Answered: Feb 14, 2020
I agree with above statements.. anything lasting for months does not seem right and maybe just have a doc look at..
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 14, 2020
I have had one once many years ago I dont know if it was scar tissue or an air bubble or what. It didnt hurt and went away over time but it is rare and not harmful. It also could be your not going deep enough and your injecting in fat tissue get a longer needle or change areas. Fat tissue absorbs at a differnt rate then muscle
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JMann User profile
Answered: Feb 14, 2020
Make sure you are using a new fresh, sterile needle that is sharp, so you are not punching scar tissue in and out. Rub the area so you disperse any fluid that might not have been absorbed.
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What is measurements scale in Liqui-Clen?How much per dose in The Dropper should be drawn out?6000 mcg per 30mlThanks again!
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 17, 2020
what u mean by 6000mcg/30 ml??? i dont understand, 1 vial got 10ml, each ml is composed from: 40 mcg Clen and 6mg Yohimbine.
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Jan 17, 2020
I guess you need to re word your question… Doesn`t seem to make sense..
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J-Juice User profile
Answered: Jan 17, 2020
It`s pretty straight forward. Per 1 ml on the plunger you will get 40mcg and 6 mg of each compound
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joe User profile
Answered: Jan 17, 2020
iml on plunger is 40mcg clen and 6mg yohimbine my friend, take care
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bobbby c User profile
Answered: Jan 17, 2020
1ml on plunger is 4omcg clen and 6mg yohimb. be careful with this product man, stay safe
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 17, 2020
It`s 40mcg per ml, this is an injectable form of clen with the yohimbine included, and 30ml would be 1,200mcg
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This is my new account. My last account was locked/suspended for “suspicious activity” but I`ve done not one thing wrong. Naps has not replied in 2.5 days. Any suggestions, advice, and has this happened to anybody before? ***I`ve lost $150 worth of hard earned credit and I`m wondering if naps just doesn`t want me getting free stuff using store credit?*** (My last order of nearly $800 in store credit went through but i earned every dollar by answering questions).
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nickname_957 User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
That is weird. Before you make assumptions tho, i would def wait and hear back from naps. I`m sure they have a legit reason, or possibly they made a mistake. either way you will get a clear answer from them, good luck bud
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
I`ve built up a large amount of credit several times with no issue and know others that help a lot in the Q&A section that have high credits. Dont think that`s it. None of us here will be able to answer what`s possed as suspicious activity. I`d recommend waiting until Naps gets back to you. It was the weekend, so requests likely will get responses today.
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C30 User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
I`m sure they will respond within a few days. You need to be mindful that this occurred over the weekend. It will be resolved and I`m sure they will get back to you. If you spent that much then they wouldn`t want to lose your busy. If you want, you can reach out today and see if you get in contact with someone. Good luck
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
Just wait for naps to answer man do worry they always help out, take care bro and be safe.
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JB205 User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
Did you by chance post a rewards code on the Q and A forum?
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
I can tell you that NAPs probably pays more attention to this forum, POW voting and outside sites more than I would have originally thought. That being said like any business they can and do make mistakes. Hopefully this was one, i feel your pain. give them a chance to fix it and please keep us posted. good luck
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How much and how often to inject? Can you use it anywhere like double chin areas or just tummy?
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skitt User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
I don`t know if you would want to inject this in your chin lol but it`s the only product I know of that MIGHT be responsible for spot site injections, so sub q in tummy, butt, thighs basically anywhere there is unwanted fat if that makes sense.. I`d inject pre workout personally but I wont lie I`m new to this product as well as Im doing my research on it due to helping my wife with a cycle… Its 40 mg per ml for a guy and if it was me Id start at a half a ml and asest tolerance and go from there pyramiding the doses up then back down with 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off… Do some research on it and good luck
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
I don`t know about the double chin area, but start with 20 Mcg and work you r way up…
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
Keep it to the sub q areas on your stomach, or legs, I wouldn`t use anywhere else besides the stomach. Fat will disperse evenly throughout your body when using the correct diet and training so use this as it`s designed dial in your diet, work your ass off and you`ll lose your double chin.
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
I believe this product has 40mcgs per CC. So basically 1cc is equal to 1 tablet of the oral Clenbuterol. However it`s my understanding that when this liquid Clen is combined with the yohimbie extract it becomes much more potent. When I take Clenbuterol, I go between 40 and 120mcgs a day, but that`s metabolized and processes through the stomach so it`s definitely not as strong. That being said, I`d start with 20mcgs or 1/2cc an hour before your workout and see how it goes. Then increase as necessary. Inject only in your stomach fat, or lower back fat. Keep it out of your neck area. Do the work, cardio and diet will lessen the extent of your double chin.
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Md. Phd User profile
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
(You could theoretically inject into your eye but DON`T) By asking your question you have demonstrated a lack of basic medical knowledge and likely to cause damage, the question is where do you want that damage? An abscess in your abdomen or face? Choose the former. Calories in Calories out. You don`t need a thing, diet & exercise. Keep asking questions
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 09, 2019
20-40 mcg ed for 4-6 weeks and yes subcutaneous fat deposits particularly in your lower abdominal region
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is it supposed to be clear cause my is light brown with thing floating in it?
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
I have purchased close to fifty bottles of this product and not once has it been anything but clear and colorless. I have heard some people saying they have what appears to be crystals floating in it so maybe if that’s the case warm it a bit but otherwise I would say something is up. Btw I have never used Helios it was for someone else. I don’t believe in using clen for regular people like myself.
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Like LIB stated crystals maybe but it should be clear and not dark in color. Open a ticket ….
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Try heating bottle with warm air if doesn’t work contact napshelp man good luck
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Just shake it up and down lightly to make sure everything mixes. Anything oil based can change colors batch to batch depending on the carrier oil I wouldn’t worry about color.
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Hey bud. From what I know there are different types of shades with every batch #. Mines is 100% clear. Contact naps about that maybe they cam send you over some new batch. Good luck bud.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
I mean obviously if there is “hair” floating in it you may want to reconsider, iif any doubt trash it take a pic and contact naps-simple they may or may not reimburse you. Anyhow not much to add except LIB, i respect you opinion (ive figured out who to listen to and who to dismiss) I guess if you have ordered so many bottles you must feel it works. I have toyed with the idea of using this but there is always some claim about yohimbe. I remember when I was playing high school football the guys had a nasty SL preparation supposed to incr test by 300%, blah. Anyhow the next year it would have another claim. Obviously, I know clen works, i have used it and it should work on paper too, chemically its a lot like caffeine and other b agonists that all increase energy and open up the lungs, I just wonder if it works to “spot” reduce as it claims. People have been saying this is a myth for years but we do lose and gain fat in specific areas or “spots”, just not the ones we want. Anyhow like I said respect your opinion and interested to hear your thoughts when you get time. thanks brother
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What are the float hair looking partials in the product i received? First time using this.
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
I believe that`s the consistency of this particular product, as I`ve seen this posted before. However, should you still be leary of using this, or worry about the stability of the product, contact Napsgear at Napshelp.com and open a help desk ticket and ask the experts.
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Not really sure I know that product like injectable Winny have particles but not sure of this. Look to the experts or open a ticket as stated…
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
The only reason there should be something floating is if there is a temperature change and it crystallized otherwise there is no good reason. Try warming a vial up under some warm water at the sink and see if it doesn’t go away. If it doesn’t I wouldn’t use it and contact naps for help. Take pictures as well. Good luck.
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Hey bud. Contact napshelp desk regarding that. Ive heard someone here before complaining regarding that. Mines is 100% clear with no debri. See what naps can do for you. Take some pics and send right away. The faster you send in the faster naps will resolve it. Good luck.
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
Your best answer would be to contact Naps help as mentioned. Someone will respond within 24 to 48hr and you will have a solid answer. Try warming it under water or inbetween your hands and see if that helps. Best of luck mate.
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nickname_835 User profile
Answered: Nov 21, 2019
If your concerned contact maps about it, maybe it was a bad batch. Everything I`ve every gotten has been clear minus the color. Maybe it was filtered right when it was made, also can try warming it up like another meme we mentioned and see what happens
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Anybody ever use this to minimize(along with diet of course) the fat pocket in between the armpit and side pectoral. It`s like a layer of fat in front of your lats. Might be a tender area, though
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Md Phd User profile
Answered: Oct 29, 2019
If you are in search of “armpit” definition there are easier ways. Diet & exercise (cardio) will lower your body fat. Whenever fat cells are removed from one location fat will deposit and equalize throughout the remaining cells. Keep asking questions
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 29, 2019
This is an interesting product, I`ve read some on it but never used it. Clen is a beta agonist structurally not unlike caffeine and albuterol. It has been shown to unlock these beta receptors to help burn fat in fairly strict circumstances. My understanding is that it has to be metabolized by the liver before it is biologically active. So i am not entirely convinced that spot reducing is physiologically possible with this product. And they have been making claims about yohimbe for decades, i`m not sure I have ever seen a believable study for any of it`s wild claims. Anyhow just my thoughts. If you use it let us know, I would be interested to hear.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Oct 29, 2019
I have used this product and honestly for all the risks it is much better to not take it and just really focus on your diet. Of course this is easy to say and when you have a goal you will focus on that and nothing else but clen isn’t as effective as people think. It only really helps with spot reduction when you have very low body fat and you inject into that last little lump of adipose tissue. Of course that’s maybe a little exagerated but in my experience the clen only helped a very small amount. To me not worth the potential cardiac issues that will happen with prolonged and higher dose usage. Just my two cents but I have used this product, GP Helios, and although it worked it was not nearly as effective as changing my diet and doing 45 minutes of cardio a day.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Oct 29, 2019
You just have to diet and cardio man, spot reduction is impossible although some drugs like anavar and winstrol also clen can hit stubborn areas
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Unc33135 User profile
Answered: Oct 29, 2019
Im not buying the spot reduction claims either. People just gave different genetics and store fat in certain areas unfortunately. I have used clen before but dont think id do it again as it gave me a feeling i didnt like. Plus it only worked a minimal amount.
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K.D.T User profile
Answered: Oct 29, 2019
I find it only yields worth wile results when your already 10%body fat or less it helps to lose that last little bit of fat I feel it`s better the Clem alone
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I can`t find where to contact Naps on the website and when I went to pay for my order with Litecoin it said it was unable to use Litecoin at this time. Does anyone know why or how to contact naps about this? I`ve always used Litecoin without problems.
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nickname_518 User profile
Answered: Oct 17, 2019
Open a “ticket”. Go to napshelp.com, make an account and then click “create a ticket”. In your case you would select “billing” and explain to them your problem and they should get back to you within a day
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Jasonz User profile
Answered: Oct 17, 2019
I`ve had this problem before too. I ended up googling napsgear and found a page where it said napshelp so went into there and submitted a ticket. I think they changed the layout of there web page and it`s made it difficult to navigate around. I cant find the video vlogs now so if someone can enlighten me that would be great!
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Matthew User profile
Answered: Oct 17, 2019
It`s on a different site. At Napshelp.com. Creat an account. Then login. Turn in a Ticket. Make sure you let them know the order number. About Litecoin, did you just purchase litecoin? Was CB or whatever app you use have your litecoin in your wallet? I know you done this before. But it doesn`t hurt to get reminded.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Oct 17, 2019
There is a live chat with napshelp.com that may be useful as well. But opening a ticket will be the start. Good luck
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Johnnie User profile
Answered: Oct 17, 2019
It is difficult to find. I really don`t like the whole new website and layout they use. I like it better the way it was before the summer started. Anyway Naohelp.com and creat a help ticket. A bit confusing but you should have no problem using litcoin
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Oct 17, 2019
Sometimes I find it hard as well but if you reply to a question like I’m doing now there is a link for 24/7 support and that’s what I click on when I need to submit a ticket. I’d save the link on my browser if I were you that way you have it. Otherwise it’s napshelp I think dot.com
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Anyone wanting to share their experience on recomping with Tren A eating right below maintenance
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
I ate almost everything i wanted but kept dropping weight. But i was using 700mg or more tren ace weekly. Based on that I`d imagine you`d recomp fairly good, but i still advice to take over 500mg per week man because how will you recomp if you lose some muscle while on a caloric deficit?
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anonymous255 User profile
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
I ran 100mg of tren eod with 100mg of cyp per week for 10 weeks and recomped. I gained nearly 10lbs of lean mass while staying at the same weight. This was all done on about a 500 calorie deficit.
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5%er User profile
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
As long as you are eating Whole Foods and clean calories the tren will help you maintain the muscle. I do not believe going over 400mg per week will bring any additional gains for the purpose of keeping muscle.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
I like to intermittent fasting and while on tren I don`t get very much muscle gain while doing that diet so I eat more when I`m on tren. And tren will help but won`t shred the fat off you unless you are eating super clean. I stick to the same few proteins, carbs, fats so I know what works. Hey
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Lennon User profile
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
I did a cycle with Tren and Test E and was incredible. I did keto for 4 weeks and high protein for 8. Got to 10% body fat and felt amazing
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 15, 2019
Yes tren ace is great at doing just that. I put on muscle and gained strength while in a caloric deficit.
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I have never use this product before is this a Bailey applications 30 minutes before using please help and thank you
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Oct 02, 2019
I am currently using it at 2 ml per day. I do get small clen shakes like I do with the oral. So far it is a product that works but you need to be lean first. Like near comp lean to see the results. So 1 vial lasts 5 days . Good luck
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Oct 02, 2019
The instructions should tell you. However in this case they don`t, here`s a general breakdown. Helios is spot reduction. In reality there is no spot reduction of fat. The body burns fat evenly or as needed (you cannot make it burn fat where you want). But helios increases fat mobilization by circumventing the natural body response. It forces spot reduction to a point by increasing the heat output in the area. Everyone reacts differently with any drug, not just helios so results will of course vary depending on your bodily makeup. It is injected via tiny insulin needle in areas you`d like to accelerate fat loss. However how much to inject? Well…if the manufacturer didn`t list it then ask naps for the manufacturers contact info in case naps cannot guide you. I hope at least this much information helps man, good luck!
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Oct 02, 2019
Hey, Im currently on .5 everyday wich is good for me without being jittery or nervous. If you wish to do this start low like I did. .25 at furst then raise until you feel comfortable for no more than 2 weeks. Good luck
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James chestnut User profile
Answered: Oct 02, 2019
Yes every day and you need to already have a lower ammnt of body fat to really notice anything, but start with a low dose and gradually increase, if you start to get too shaky decrease the dose a bit
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 02, 2019
Not sure what Bailey is, but if you meant daily, yes, you`ll want to take it every day for maximum fat burning effects (systemic).
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Md Phd User profile
Answered: Oct 02, 2019
You provide no information so many variables to this question. Try Hexarelin with HCG 500iu 3X per week for fat lose. This product is harsher then most led on. Keep asking questions.
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I just recieved 2 vials of the helios and both have the shiny fiberglass looking material floating around in them. There is a color difference of the fluid as well. Surprisingly they are from the same batch. I thought a saw a question about a month ago with the same description. Just wondering what the outcome was after they contacted Naps. It`s been a few days since I have and sent pics into the help desk with no resolution.
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2019
With all the questionable and negative feedback you’ve been seeing with this particular product, I’m surprised you took the chance to even buy it. Granted it’s only $14 a vile, but it literally has not had a review since 2017, and on this site, when people get a great product at an exceptional price, they can’t yell loud enough. I’d be very weary of the questions concerning quality with regards to this product that you’re “INJECTING” into your body.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2019
Should be clear. Sounds like it crystalized a little. You can try heating it but now you dont know if the concentrations are consistent due to the crystal fibers floating around. Always best to take the pill form of clen vs localized injections. Be careful with with is since it`s super easy to overdose
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Jaris User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2019
Yeah, like other guys said, try maybe clenbuterol, or just wait out till naps resolves this, dont recommend doing something that doesnt meant to do.
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Lord User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2019
I placed near 20 orders already and never got a vial as you described. I wouldn`t risk it especially since they were so cheap.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 30, 2019
Heat both of them to 40C and shake vigoroously. Contact Naps or report back if difference still remains. You sure it`s the same batch?
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Aaron11 User profile
Answered: Aug 30, 2019
I wouldn’t risk it and just open a ticket with napshelp. Their pretty quick with finding a satisfactory solution.
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Just wondering how long does it take to see any real changes in fat reduction..Already went though my first 10 ML bottle in 3 weeks time..Now I’m wondering if this stuff really works..Also always had better results from T3 then clen..
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anonymous255 User profile
Answered: Aug 29, 2019
The stuff helps but if diet is not on point then you will not see results. Probably need to lower calorie intake.
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Mike March User profile
Answered: Aug 29, 2019
Well that certainly depends on how much fat you have on your body but you should see results within a week or two especially if your diet is on point. Also, clen shouldn’t be run longer than 2 weeks because your body builds a tolerance to it super fast. Run 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Aug 29, 2019
Nothing works without a strict low calorie diet. It helps and enhances resuo5s if you really dieting. But without dieting the fat l9ss from any supplement just is not enough. Example: powerful fat loss supplement = 300 calories burned. You`re eating an extra hamburger worth 350 calories, you`re getting fat regardless…get it? Diet is #1 these are just added bonuses but cannot do anything on their own…a cookie can make up what tjewe burn sort of…and I`m sure you`re eating way way more than a cookie or hamburger amount over your limit.
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Aug 29, 2019
The stuff really works, if you really work. That’s good nutrition, proper macros, and not lieing to My Fitness Pal about what you’re actually eating. All clen does is increase the amount of oxygen available for your blood, and the yohimbe elevated your heart rate to move more oxygenated blood, faster to the muscles, where it’s used as a catalyst to burn calories. So while Helios will definitely allow you to burn more calories, if your diet is so poor that you’re still not in a calorie deficit, this drug will not appear to work.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 29, 2019
Of course you`ll have better results from T3 than clen, T3 is absolutely brutal catabolic, it`s non-selective sadly so you lose muscle on it. Have you tried taking both at once? T3 + clen combo.
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BABA User profile
Answered: Aug 29, 2019
It`s not 100% effective at fat loss. You should be in a caloric deficit and weight lifting regularly to notice any real benefits. Keep that in mind.
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Hi all,I am taking HGH 2iu/day for some fat loss/aging/vitality/well being, for about 5-7 months (Love love love it!). Will add Anavar 10 mg/day for some lean muscles. Still have a little fat around my abs/love handles. Thinking about this product. How much should I inject? For how long?I am 43 y.o female, work out 6 days a week. Oh, and have some leaking valves heart issues, which is being monitored regularly with the doctor (remark about this product being harsh for heart) :-)))) Thank you, guys again. Have a great pump!!!
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Beard User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
Any heart issues worry me when it comes to this stuff. Anyone I`ve known with any time of heart issue at all it put them back in the hospital every time they tried to cycle..
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
The yohimbine in this can most definitely cause heart palpitations. However does that mean you shouldn`t try it? I`d say as long as your following up with your dr and obviously listen to your body, you should be fine. As with any stimulant start small and test for tolerance. Best of luck.
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anonymous255 User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
I would not use this product with your heart issues. In my opionion it’s just not worth it.
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
With all due respect, you have heart issues, and while I’m not a doctor and don’t know the extent or severity of these issues, why on earth would you ever even consider a product whose main purpose is to burn fat? The risk your taking, in my opinion, isn’t worth the reward. How about you track your macros and put yourself into a calorie deficit for 3 weeks and do the stair stepper for 30 minutes every day, and I’ll guarantee, your love handles will significantly decrease, and you won’t be taking your life in your hands..literally.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
Talk to your doctor about using this product with your current medical condition. Does your doctor know you are taking HGH? You need to fully disclose to your doctor everything you are taking.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
With previous heart issues, I’d stay away from this product for fat loss due to the clen that the product contains. It will rapidly increase heart rate and is not conducive to an older heart. For extra fat loss look at adding some t3 into your cycle with a more restrictive diet
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Wait everyone, I never thought spot reduction of fat was even remotely possible. How does helios work? I mean, is it injected in the abs for example??
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omeed haji User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
helioals from Hardcorelabs is a combination of Clenbuterol and Yohimbe, dissolved in injection water making it an injectable fatburner.
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nickname_707 User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
It can be objected into your loved hands and the fat around yours abs.
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Jaris User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
It burns off fat, in unwanted areas, in which you inject it
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
I am curious about this product as well. Let me know how it turns out
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Anonymousgainz User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
Yeah it’s yohimbe/Clen in a water solution. You use it for spot treatment on stubborn fat areas, love handles abdominal fat etc. subq injects with a slim pin.
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nickname_556 User profile
Answered: Aug 28, 2019
It`s injected subq in places you want to lose fat it has a localized efect on fat
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I`ve heard great things thus far especially from some of the more seasoned guys. I`m 39, 6`, 210lbs, 12%bf, and have been running gear on and off for close to 20 years. I`m currently towards the tail end of an 18+ week cycle wrapping up with TestP/TrenA/Mast/Var/T3/A`dex/P`viron/Clen and just received my first batch of Helios yesterday at which time I came off 120mcg orals that I have been running ed for 3 weeks. My tolerance is up a bit, however pinned 30iu this morning to feel it out. I know everyone is different, however what levels do you guys run for optimum results? Plan thus far is early AM pin, 4 targets each rip, 30iu to 60iu to 90iu to 120iu, 2 weeks on 2weeks off. Any suggestions or guidance would be excellent. Thank you!!
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
I have never used clen or albuterol for longer than 10 days, but from what I understand you need to cycle off to refresh receptors, or “rinse” them with diphenhydramine (benedryl) in order to reduce tolerance. Are you already crazy low bodyfat? You sound very experienced, but it never ceases to amaze me how many folks I run into that try to use clen as a substitute for dieting, when in fact it should likely be reserved for individuals who have plateaued HARD and need help getting rid of those stubborn few percentage points of bodyfat at the end of a cut.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
If your tolerance is high off taking clen, buy some ketotifen off Naps. Keeps the tolerance in check. It`s an antihistamine but it increase the sensitivity of the body to drugs of the beta agonist class (making them more potent). A must have if you are running clenbuterol or salbutamol IMO.
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Maison User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
If your tolerance is up on the clen I would stop it for a week or so than restart it with the pyramid effect 40-60-80-100-120-100-80
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nickname_556 User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
This product is much better the oral clen alone when I use it i go 3 weeks on 2 off and only need 1/2 to 3/4 of what I would use witb oral clen it much more potent and much better for spot treatment
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Wes User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
Cycle Clen 1 week on, 1 week off.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Aug 08, 2019
I wouldn`t think it would be all that effective since your already on clen. Cycle off for 2 weeks then try the helios. Just ordered some and excited to try it out.
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How often should I cycle on and off of clen? And how many times a week should I use it? Is injecting it in the belly fat really the best way to use it?
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nickname_610 User profile
Answered: Aug 04, 2019
Clen you should take for two weeks every day and then off for two weeks and then again two weeks, Your body use to Clen very fast. Also increase your heart rate . Injection only in muscles . Not in belly fat
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Marcus User profile
Answered: Aug 04, 2019
You can cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or 3 days on 3 day off. Find out which one works better for you. I wouldnt stay more than 2 months on cycle clen is really heavy on heart.
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Scott User profile
Answered: Aug 04, 2019
I personally have only added clen into my cycle once. I did 1 week on, 1 week off. Did that for 6 weeks in total. Good results just fast heart beat.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 04, 2019
Clen is pretty damaging to the heart, so don`t use it too long. I won`t go over 4 full weeks without stopping and taking some time off. You can always do 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, then discontinue use. I usually cycle twice just to get fully cut enough.
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michael patsalou User profile
Answered: Aug 04, 2019
Most do 2 weeks on 2 weeks offalso try albuterol its safer
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 04, 2019
2 weeks on and 2 weeks off and yes into the belly fat is the best way to use it.
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Where do I inject this a?will it spot reduce stomach fat?
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Marcus User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
Pinch belly fat with 2 fingers and inject it directly into the fat. 45° angle not 90. You can use small insulin needles. Start low like 20mcg/day then increase cuz it raise blood pressure and you might feel crappy as hell. Injections are painful and it leaves bruises so be ready for that.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
If it becomes too much for your stomach, which it might, you can use the skin by your glute/ham tie-in. thats my go-to area for all sub-q shots
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Maison User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
Yes you can inject this item where you want to lose that stubborn belly fat or back fat.
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
Sub cutaneous in the belly
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 26, 2019
This product is INTENDED for spot reduction of fat, but be aware that this is a relatively dangerous specialty product that carries heart risks and must be cycled on and off in two week intervals. Also, be aware that this product is not magic, and is intended to be used in conjunctions with legit diet and exercise in a caloric deficit. Since clen only burns a few hundred calories extra per day (the number of calories in 2-3 oreos), this will only provide a slight bump to a airtight weight loss system.
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Where do I inject this a?will it spot reduce stomach fat?
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Fllera User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
Injected in the belly fat area. That`s where you want to reduce the exceeded fat. Be careful, this area is not very cool to injected in. A lot of nerves and veins. Educate yourself by watching YouTube videos.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
No compound spot reduces….No compound makes you lose fat. Fllera hit this on the head here. Be careful. When doing Sub-Q injections, I use the skin at my glute/ham tie in. Its much easier and a lot less tender
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Maison User profile
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
Yes you want to inject this item in the area that you are looking to lose that stubborn body fat.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 25, 2019
This should be injected subQ it will be the easiest delivery method, this will help spot reduce but only if it is combined with a proper diet and exercise regimen, clen works by process of thermogenesis so it helps burn more calories but you still have to be in a deficit, so for this product to work, you have to.
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Massgains User profile
Answered: Jul 26, 2019
If you read about this product it say it Simulates fat loss on spot injections. So where ever you really having trouble losing stubborn fat inject into than area.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 26, 2019
It has been shown to help but without diet or exercise you might not see any real benefit.
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Thank you gentlemen for answering my previous question. Now for the important part. Several of you suggested to “take it easy” or “not too much”. Exactly how much should I inject into each area, & how often?
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Jul 22, 2019
Speaking on volume you do not want to go over 1-1.25mL in your deltoid generally and up to 3mL in your gluteus medius. So if your injection is 1.5mL or larger go into your glute and if it’s 1mL or less you can hit your deltoid (shoulder). If you are using over 3mL you will have to pin in two separate locations. Don’t forget to rotate your injection site. There are many sites you can inject into but the easiest for self administration is glute. But you don’t want to keep going into the same spot because it increases the chances of an infection or tissue damage. You can google intramuscular (IM) injection sites and see all the locations you can use.
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Mast User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 23, 2019
You have to ease your body into it. Clen can be dangerous if you mess up the dose, there are studies that show if not careful it can lead to permanent heart damage. Yohimbie and clen are both very potent drugs. Take precaution when tlusing this product.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 23, 2019
No more than 0.5-1 ml into each body part every other day.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 23, 2019
Here is what I would do: I`d pin .25 mL per day to begin with. And I would alternate each day the injection site from left to right “love handle” or whatever part you want to loose that pesky fat. With clen, you`ll most definitely feel it working. If .25 mL doesn`t make you shake like crazy, up it to 0.5 mL. I`d go all the way up to 1 mL/day before I`d perhaps also include products such as ketotifen, which lower clen`s tolerance.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 23, 2019
I`m concerned that you may not be aware of the true nature and dangers of this product. Its not a beginner weight loss drug, it`s supposed to be used by serious individuals who are already very lean (10% bodyfat for example), who need to get that final stubborn 1-2% off AFTER exhausting all options with a PERFECT diet and exercise practiced over months of discipline. Is that you? What is your current bodyfat percentage (please be honest, no judgement here)?
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jul 23, 2019
Start low as clen is dangerous. I`d start with 20 mcgs and up from there. That would equal .5 mls. Also recommend doing tabs instead so you dont have to inject all the time
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In the product description, it talks about spot reduction. So do you inject it into the spot where you have excess fat? Does anyone have firsthand experience with this?
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 22, 2019
Most people have experience injecting it into their love handles but it has so much pip and not enough evidence working that it`s not worth the hassle. It literally burns going in.
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D-man User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 22, 2019
I do not have first hand experience with this product, but that is the idea. It is suggested to inject where needed for spot reduction. Careful not to inject too much though. With this product you should start with a very low dose to see how well you tolerate it, and then slowly build up.
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Brad Jones User profile
Answered: Jul 22, 2019
I`ve used this several times in the past with good results. The thought process behind the two chemicals in Helios is that they do not dissolve fat but rather break it up into small pieces making the fat easier to burn off than if it were a larger spot. So yes, you inject it locally to where ever you have a hard time losing fat. Expect a rush of energy and sweats like you see with Clen. I`ve used it on either side of my bully button, my love handles and even tried it once under my chin. DO NOT do that! Like the guy said earlier, the PIP is really bad. With all of that being said, it`s definitely worth the try.
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michael patsalou User profile
Answered: Jul 22, 2019
Yes use Pit on stubborn areas but take it easy. Could be painful so go easy mate.
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Maison User profile
Answered: Jul 22, 2019
This item is most effective if injected into the area you are trying to lose weight in. Lower stomach hips even in your back fat.
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Very curious about using this product. I have several questions. Does this need to be ran during a test cycle only? If so how long do I run it and how much? What kind and size of needle is best to use for this? I’m about 20% bf and really struggling to lose the stubborn belly fat I have and thought this might help out. I do have a clean diet and workout out 5 days a week.
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michael patsalou User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
Hi mate. I recommend to dial in on your diet and go to at least 15% bodyfat before starting the cycle. good luck
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Mtrain User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
I agree with Michael, diet has to be cleaned up..that alone will help you a lot. Taking any cycle with a poor diet and poor workout regimen won`t yield productive results. That being said, you don`t need to have test with it. This is a potent fat burning combo that stimulates the alpha and beta receptors in the body. When you do start finally start this, a good starting point is .5mL once per day. You want to start SLOW. After 2 weeks of .5mL per day you can bump it up to .75mL per day, and go up to 1mL per day after 2 more weeks. Your body does build a tolerance to it, so it`s good to cycle it for 4-5 weeks at a time and then hop off for 2 weeks. BUT getting good results from this only comes with a CLEAN diet and a few days a week of fasted cardio.
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nickname_957 User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
def get to a lower bodyfat, then give it a go
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D-man User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
This does not need to be ran with Test. It is clen and Yohimbe. This is something bodybuilders use to get from 8% down to 6%. Going from 20% down to 18% will hardly be noticeable, and not worth the hassle and risk.
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Does clen metabolize in the body into anything that may appear in a normal drug test ? Anything that could be similar to other illegal stimulants that may show a positive?
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
They do in fact test for clen in certain competition areas and they have found it in people that have used and/or are using.
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Nickname User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
You can come out as positive, but it all depends on what they are drug testing you for.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
Sporting tests for clen but normal job or gov does not…normally unless they get a tip. If you are unsure and your career depends on it better to not be on clen just in case.
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Ryan User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
Depends your defintion of normal drug test, is it sport or job related? If sport im sure they do and if its job I doubt it unless your boss hates you
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
It won’t show up on a normal 9 panel drug test, the only way it will show up is if they run it through a spec test and identify all unusual compounds this is usually a high end sports test usually not even nfl tests for this
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ltl trucker User profile
Answered: Jul 19, 2019
Clen is not a common drug of abuse, it is not looked for specifically. Even if it did show up on a drug test, as an amphetamine or designer phenethylamine, it would be far under the cutoff. The cutoff value is very high for opiates and amphetamines, 1000 currectly.
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Where is a good place to pin? I`ve taken HGH with no issues in the layer of pinchend skin on my stomach. However, when I did with with this product it left bumps under the skin. Am I not doing something right?Thank you in advance for your help.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 17, 2019
YouTube search injection spots. Quads, delts, glutes, chest, and multiple other spots are all good for injections. You always run the risk if not injecting deep enough of knots which you can rub to make the swelling go down.
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Moomoo User profile
Answered: Jul 17, 2019
DO NOT LISTEN TO WILL!! Do not inject into the muscle omfg! Inject into fat. I use a small insulin syringe. I usually rub the area gently for a few minutes afterwards so it dissolves faster. You should feel a “rush” shortly after, kinda like a huge caffeine hit to the brain. Also, your heart rate should be elevated throughout the day and you should also be sweating more. That`s how you know it`s real and you`re doing it right.
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: Jul 17, 2019
There are several ways to do it; comment above is right though inject somewhere where there’s fat. You can try to aspirate to see if your injecting right into the vein. You can do your Delt, Quad, Ass, forearm, etc..I would leave the bicep, forearm, tricep till later on when your more experienced tho. You can try to pinch or slap , or rub the injection site before the injection so it can be a bit less painful and it can be absorbed easier
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Jul 17, 2019
It sometimes depends on a few things. Here`s a check list. 1) the solution if it has any preservatives or added items to improve dilution. 2) the compound itself. 3) the thickness of the needle and length, thinner and only 1/2″ the better. 4) the speed of pressing the plunger in, pressing slower injects fluid slower and it prevents trauma. 5) the volume, under 1/2cc is ok but I have had 1cc cause lumps. 6) water solutions cause less lumping, oils more. 7) some areas are just more prone to getting lumps. Finally: Yes the lumps go away as long as it isn`t infected. If you feel pain and swelling that grows for a few days and changes color then see a doctor fast. But honestly, if you`re using sterile needles and a sterile product on clean skin you won`t get an injection site infection. Bottom line, unless you feel swelling and pain as well as redness or other color change see a doctor and fast! But you probably won`t have a problem so just take all the above things into factor. The lumps always go away if not infected, mine once took like a few weeks to go away but I think I injected 1 or 2 cc of Sustanon 250 in my stomach fat, and still no issues.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 17, 2019
Yes you are correct. Do it like HGH, subcutaneously with an insulin syringe into your lower belly fat.
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BOB User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 17, 2019
There is a benzyl alcohol in every vial to keep it sterile. Sometimes it irritates the subq tissue and you get a lump as a result
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What dosis should I use? I`ve using .8 and I don`t feel anything.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 22, 2019
Take anywhere from 40-80mcg ed. Taking more than that can lead to heart issues since clen oral or injectable is a very powerful drug.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jun 22, 2019
Increase in small increments until you feel something then stay there. Make sure to cycle it since your body quickly builds tolerance.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 22, 2019
You should be feeling something for sure, energy increase/jitterness/anxiety/increased temperature. Increase dosage. Are you injecting it subQ? Get a body temperature reader and measure pre and 30 mins post injection.
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Maison Jardin User profile
Answered: Jun 22, 2019
If you not feeling is You should start bumping up your doses little by little until you start feeling it
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ROBERT User profile
Answered: Jun 22, 2019
It`s always good to start low and work your way up so if and when you notice side effects you can lower it back down or stay at a certain point.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 22, 2019
I’m not an expert with clen, but it’s my understanding that you increase the dose gradually each day until you start to notice side effects, jitteriness, etc. remember to cycle this two weeks on, two weeks off.
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What color should the liquid be? How to dose if I am an experienced clen user
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
From what I understand the liquid is clear. Not sure of the dosage considering I`ve never used it.
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ROBERT User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
Start off with 10 micrograms daily and if needed work up to 15 micrograms but I wouldnt exceed that.
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
As stated start at 10Mcg and work up to 15Mcg.
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Yo him be User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
This stuff can mess you up if you mess up the dose, get clen in pill form next time. I would say start low to see how your body handles it regardless of the proper dose
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Big E User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
Helios can vary in color depending on what type of carrier oil is being used but generally it`s either clear or very light yellow color from what I have seen.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Jun 20, 2019
Best to get it in pill form man. Liquid form is dangerous because you can take too much if you mess up on the dose.
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Would it be okay to shoot a full dose 2x a day
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Jay User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2019
Clen is not for beginners. Clen can shoot your heart rate to the moon if you don`t know how to use it properly but if you are going to go for it anyway start slow and increase the dose if you can manage the side effects. Don`t start with 2x day
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Halo User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2019
Don`t even think about it. Clen raises metabolism and with your heart rate. Its a very well documented fact that clen can cause heart damage if run more than the body can handle.
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Frank Acquafreda User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2019
Proper clen dosage is crucial, too much you can have various heart emergencies
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Yeah Buddy User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2019
My guess is you don`t know what clen is to begin with and my advice would be to just stay clear of this thing.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2019
Absolutely not. A starting dose is 10 MICRO GRAMS per day. Basically run it there for a week or so until you don’t “feel” it then bump it to 15 micro grams.
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Scott User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2019
Oh hell no. Be extremely careful with this shit. Can lead to some serious heath and heart issues.
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Can you combine the Helios with test and eq in the same needle that I would inject into my upper leg muscle oust.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: May 08, 2019
While I`m sure it`s been done without issue, I wouldn`t think it intramuscular is the best form of administration for Helios. In fact, given the localized effects of Helios, I`d say it would produce a painful injection. Keep it simple. Helios subcutaneous. Test and EQ intramuscular.
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eric User profile
Answered: May 08, 2019
i agree. .. also keep them in different needles.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2019
The whole point of this product is to utilize it for SPOT TREATMENT of fat deposits, typically in the belly, love handles, etc. Otherwise, if you are only interested in the generalized effects of Clenbuterol, you can just take it orally, this would be much cheaper I believe as well.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2019
No, you can`t inject subcutaneous and intramuscular together into intramuscular. Use helios with insulin syringe subcutaneously.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: May 09, 2019
It’s not ideal. Use only SubQ for helios.
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N88 User profile
Answered: May 09, 2019
Cant combine. .. .IM vs subQ so cant mix it
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I`m about to try this and I`m wondering if I need a liver protector since it`s an injectable. If so, what should I take?
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ROBERT User profile
Answered: Apr 27, 2019
I personally don`t think its necessary to take a liver protectant but it never hurts. What I will say is start low and find the dose that`s right for you working your way up in MCG not starting high immediately. Drink lots of water and monitor the side effects. Once you notice side effects that`s your body telling you to relax. Usually its 2 weeks on then take a break. You dont want your receptors to become dependent on them.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 27, 2019
No this product is essentially injectable clen which is non-liver toxic whether you take it orally or through injection.
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mark User profile
Answered: Apr 27, 2019
as above,not really nneeded. Plus as far as im aware the actual science behind milk thistle is not conclusive,with some people reasoning that taking what is in effect another chemical,although naturally occuring,is not really the way to help your liver/kidneys process chemicals. better off being carefull as people on here advise,just enough help to get the job done,and dont be daft:)
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N88 User profile
Answered: Apr 27, 2019
No need for liver support on this. Should be good to go without it
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Tren Man User profile
Answered: Apr 27, 2019
You are not going to need a liver protection. What supplement are you referring to as liver protection. If its over the counter, it never hurts to take some milk thisle.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 27, 2019
My advice when it comes to liver protection and taking something to improve its function has always been, why not? While the needs of such supplementation will depend greatly on personal health the bottom line is that rarely will a liver protection substance be detrimental. The liver is so vital to so many functions, and liver supplementation can be ran very cheap, so if you`re asking the question, that means it`s on your mind, so just go for it. As to what you can take? Google it, there`s a number of things that can be used that don`t necessarily come in a bottled pill
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Is this product anabolic at all?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
This product is not a steroid and is specifically designed for fat loss, particularly in the abdominal region. That being said, stacked with other steroids it will result in an overall increase in lean body mass. Personally I have also noticed increased strength while using.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
These products are the opposite of anabolics man. They are designed to amp up your CATABOLISM. You will just burn more energy thru the day. If you are supporting your muscle with some anabolics then this is great, but using it alone without perfect diet is a recipe for muscle loss. I recommend a low dose of cut mix if you are experienced with the drugs.
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
Like L said Helios is taken for its catabolic effects and its ability to break down tissue not build it up (anabolism). Some people claim stimulants give them the ability to work out harder and therefore are indirectly “anabolic” but thats not quite correct.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
No, this product is NOT anabolic. On the contrary it`s designed to increase you body temperature to consume more calories throughout the day, while preserving muscle mass. This is a REALLY specialized product, specifically intended for spot reduction of fat by injecting into trouble area like the belly, love handles, etc. But really you will need exceptionally strong diet and cardio to see results.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 14, 2019
For some reason, somewhere along the way clen was claimed to have anabolic properties to help preserve muscle tissue. Chemically it does the exact opposite like previously stated, I believe that this came to be because clen is usually used in an extensive cutting cycle that normally includes var/winni/tren that could be it or just bro science, who knows. Either way this product is very specifically catabolic and used for overall and spot fat reduction.
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Does it Need to stay in the fridge? Needs to mix it with water (Like Gh)
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 07, 2019
Neither compound in this product (clenbuterol or yohimbine) require refrigeration, but should be stored in a cool location out of direct sunlight.
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 07, 2019
GP Helios comes “ready to use” requires no mixing and dosent need to be refrigerated but keeping it in a cool, dry, dark place is always a good practice.
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What is the dosage for this product and how often are you pinning?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 23, 2019
Pin 40-80 mcg(start on the lower side) with an insulin needle subcutaneously into your belly fat first thing in the mourning. Injections should be everyday.
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Chris M User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2019
A good dose to start at is .5ml once a day, preferably first thing in the morning before fasted cardio. With the clen being dosed at 40mcg/ml, you definetely wanna start at only 20mcg of clen per day and see how you react to it. Some people dont handle clen too well and you dont wanna take more then needed and find out your body doesnt handle it well. After 2 weeks at .5ml per day you can bump it up to .75ml a day, and go up to 1ml a day after 2 more weeks. Personally, i only like doing this for 4-5 weeks at a time and then taking a week or 2 off to give my body a rest, but thats just me. You can get really good results on this protocol with a good clean diet and a few days a week of fasted cardio.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2019
I would start off at 20mcg and work your way up after you get used to it if this is your first tome using clen start small and work up. And you could either split and do 1 in the am and 1 in the pm or just the full 20mcg once in the am.
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Curtis B User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2019
GP Helios is a potent fat burning combination that stimulates BOTH the alpha and beta receptors in your body. Start slowly @ .25 ml per day, after a few weeks move up to .5 ml per day and if you are feeling good and tolerating the Helios well you can further taper up the dose to .75 ml per day and then up to 1 ml per day. This is strong stuff that can help burn lots of fat so treat it with respect and it will give excellent results.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2019
I have not personally used this product, but have heard from numerous users that you should start with 1/2ml per day, then ramp up to 1ml per day over the next 14 days, watching closely to see how you react to the clen side effects. This product gets injected subcutaneously, just under the skin 1-2 inches from the belly button, or into other problem areas for spot reduction.
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How do I use it? How many UI’s
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Tb40 User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 17, 2019
Start with .25 ml to .5 ml, injected subconsciously 1-2 inches from the belly button using an insulin needle. You may also use to “spot treat” problem areas.
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Chris M User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 18, 2019
Start with .5ml first thing in the morning everyday and assess your tolerance. If you feel good at that dose run it for atleast 2 weeks and then you can try increasing it to 1ml a day. This stuff works wonders especially with fasted cardio and i like adding an extra 10-15mg of oral yohimbine. Everyone reacts different so start low and increase the dose very slowly at your discretion. Id never go over 2ml a day though.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 20, 2019
I agree with starting at .25ml then working up the reaction will vary but your body will become jittery and very hot, start at that and dose up once sides become non noticeable or bearable. Inject subQ 1-2 inches from your belly button pulling the skin and injecting into the pull.
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Is this injected SQ or IM?
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Alexander mahoney User profile
Answered: Jan 23, 2019
Inject SQ in troublesome areas
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Socal Juicer User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 23, 2019
This product is injected subcutaneously using (typically) an insulin needle. Most users inject about 1.5 -2 inches to the side or below the belly button just under the skin, you may also target problem areas for localized fat reduction.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 23, 2019
I seem to recall some years back people were doing intramuscular injections with Helios because the theory was that it would slow the rate of absorption, and thus require less injections or a lower dose. Haven`t heard anything since then though, because they likely found out how bad a intramuscular Helios injection burned. That said, subcutaneous is the way to go with Helios. Be sure to rotate those injection sites as well.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 24, 2019
It’s best to inject all peptides/hgh/hcg sub q.
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How painful is an insulin needle to the stomach? And would a 22 gauge needle b too large?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 20, 2019
An insulin needle to the stomach is not painful at all. However, 22 gauge is far too large.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 21, 2019
You`re going to feel a pinch just about all of the time. There are areas you can stick however where even a pinch is unnoticeable if you`re even the slightest bit distracted. I was taught these methods during a pediatric rotation years ago towards the end of school. While It`s too much to explain here, in short you`re looking to inject about 2 to 3 inches out from the bellybutton, down about 10 to 15 degrees. I`ve stuck myself in this area and never felt it. Now a 22 compared to any of the insulin gauges is going to feel like a screwdriver by comparison. Nevertheless, if you had to use it, you could, but expect pain for a few days while your order of insulin syringes comes in.
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Ryan User profile
Answered: Jan 21, 2019
It`s not painful…you will just feel a tiny prick. If your sensitive to needles, try heating the needle up with a hair dryer n then pinning. A 22 gauge is definitely not what your going to want to use!
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Will this product get rid of the fat pouch above the penis that`s pretty hard to get rid of with just exercise and diet if used daily in that area?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 10, 2019
Yes this product will aid in troublesome fat loss if you are doing cardio and keeping your diet in check, it helps speed up the metabolism but if your eating 1k-2k over your caloric intake then there would be no point in this.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 10, 2019
What you`re referring to is called a “fat upper pubic area” and if you`ve reduced your overall body fat to around the single digits I don`t see any reason why this couldn`t work. Though, Helios can leave the skin surrounding the injection site tough, or even irritated. Also I`ve see it leave little lumps at the injection site in people with already low body fat levels. What I`d do is rotate your injection sites and include the upper pubic area in this rotation as opposed to only injecting above the penis. Also I`d inject further away from your genitals rather than directly above the base of the penis. You`ll know after the first or second injection if this is something to continue with. Good luck, and maybe leave a review to let us know how things turned out.
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Ral User profile
Answered: Jan 30, 2019
This is great for targeting those specific stubborn areas of fat. Just inject SQ to the area you would like to lose fat in.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 21, 2019
This product was created for the specific purpose of spot fat reduction around the injection site like your describing, otherwise you could just take the Clen and Yohimbine orally. So to answer your question, YES this product will help, but your diet and exercise must be on point. As another expert indicated, you need to be careful to rotate injection sites carefully and use sterile injection procedures to avoid infection and skin irritation on an otherwise sensitive area of your body.
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What are side effects? Is it worth the results and are results gonna last with proper diet?
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 02, 2019
Though side effects will vary from person to person some things will remain the same. Increased heart rate, insomnia, tremors and anxiety all come gift wrapped with Clenbuterol. For you these may be severe or hardly noticeable depending upon the dose and personal experience. As far as being worth it I tend to look at anything involving Clen as a last resort. Sure, you`ll drop some fat, but what are the goals? A show? Or just looking good at the beach? Only you can decide if it`s worth it. There are ways to minimize side effects, and mostly that comes down to dosing. As a rule of thumb, if you have a lot of fat to lose I`d save the Helios for later, after dropping most of the fat through diet and exercise. That will also play a role in how long your results last. If you use Helios to drop fro say, 12% body fat down to 7 or 8 your results will be better and last longer than if you use it to drop from 30% body fat down to 18.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 02, 2019
The results are similar to oral clenbuterol which include elevated body temp and muscle cramps. Yes, you will retain the fat-burning effects with proper diet.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 03, 2019
The side effects will be that of your typical Clenbuterol, shakes, excess body heat, increased heart rate. The results are worth it if your trying to be shredded, and yes the results will last if you have the proper diet.
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I`m just curious for the product review on a scale 1 to 10. 1 being the worst and 10 being the best. What were your experiences and what do you rate this product
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 19, 2018
Well due to the nature of this product I’d say a 10, as it will only ever be used for cutting/shrinking fat cells it does the job it’s suppose to do. If your looking to get lean with a proper date and cardio this product will be what you need
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Could you mix this with HGH to inject with one syringe?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
You could in theory but I would just do separate injections.
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David France User profile
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
They both get administered sub q under the skin so I don’t see why not.
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Eddie Haul User profile
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
There two water based compounds so it should be fine.
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Hi, I am new and trying to figure out how much I need to dose 100 mcg/day? isn`t 1 ml = 100 mcgThank you for your help
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 05, 2018
Helios is nothing like oral clen, injections won’t suffer any breakdown to dissolve the compound so it would be advised to start at .5 ml a day 20mcg clen/3mg yohim and dose up from there depending on side effects.
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james burnham User profile
Answered: Dec 06, 2018
I very much agree with the last answer that was given. My experience with Helios has yielded a near perfect mid-section. And I only had to do a fraction of the strength in regards to milligrams. I definitely would not do a full 1ml of this stuff! More potent than oral clen. I dosed a mere .25ml 1/2 hour before training and could actually wring my shirt and shorts with sweat!!
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Matthew Cain User profile
Answered: Dec 08, 2018
I wouldn’t go above 1 ml per day. You can either run 2 weeks on 2 weeks off or take a Benadryl to clear your receptors and keep running it. Or order ketotifen which works better than Benadryl does
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 08, 2018
You can start at.5 ml per day and work up to 1 ml per day.
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Ronnie User profile
Answered: Dec 29, 2018
This product is incredibly strong; vastly more potent than oral products. Based on experience with this product, I would highly recommend utilizing an insulin syringe and injecting 25iu on your first go, as I was hit hard when I myself did 60iu on my first time. Intense sweating, mouth salivation, pounding pulse, etc. Take this slowly. Amazing product but hits like a truck.
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Do you shoot this like hgh or intermuscular like a testosterone?
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Acfit User profile
Answered: Nov 25, 2018
Like HGH. In to the fat, not the muscle…but dispense in a few different spots. For lower abs, put a couple shots on the right and a couple on the left. Same for love handle area. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
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Daniel Trought User profile
Answered: Nov 30, 2018
Underneath the skin in your stubborn areas for localized effect.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 08, 2018
subcutaneously like hgh
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 11, 2018
You want to inject this product subq 1-2in to the side or below the belly button for stubborn fat loss.
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David France User profile
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
Like hgh right under the skin.
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When using GP Helios for spot reduction say in the lowers abs do you take your syringe and put skittle here and there all over the area you wish to reduce that final bit of stubborn fat?
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Acfit User profile
Answered: Nov 25, 2018
Correct. 4 spots daily should be enough. 1/2in. Insulin pin. Pin 2 spots on the right and a couple on the left. Then do the same thing the next day and so on for 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off in different areas.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 08, 2018
Yes it is best to inject 1-2in below above or either side of the naval.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 08, 2018
Yes pin with insulin syringe within a couple inches of belly button
