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I know that this doesn`t have to do with clen but does anyone know where to get Ephedrine shipped to the US. Looking for source someone is using. It can be stacked with other compounds as well.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 04, 2020
Good luck on this one. I`ve searched all over. It helps my mom with her multiple sclerosis.
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BigZ User profile
Answered: Sep 04, 2020
A lot of sites that sell pro hormones sell a ton of fat burners with ephedrine in it.
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Limitless User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2020
Just go to a pharmacy like walmart, or walgreens. you can get bronkaid each pill has 25 mg ephedrine in it. A couple states its still not legal but most US states have it over the counter. You just have to ask at the pharmacy. Some states limit a box at a time, other states 2 boxes at a time, there is also monthly limit. So check your states local laws, get out a calculator if you want to see what the max amount per month you can get is. They scan your drivers license and track it. So don`t go over. If you try to go over you might end up on some watch list because of dumbasses that try to cut it to make illicit street drugs.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2020
I want just pure ephedrine. Bronkaid has other stuff that makes my mom sick.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2020
You guys have to stop asking for external sources for stuff in the forums. You will get banned and credits wiped out. This isn`t the place to discuss sources.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2020
Agreed, not the place to discuss sources.
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What’s good Naps I have hips/ obliques, i’m not sure if it’s fat or just genetics, i’m trying to get that vtaper but i am only 5’5. I haven’t been working out due to the pandemic but i was just curios to see if i could trim down those specific areas overtime or if it will even slim down, i haven’t been using anything and was wondering if i could get to that stage w just clen if needed before getting back to the gym
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nickname_238 User profile
Answered: Jun 21, 2020
Muscle shape and structure comes down to genetics. Try working on shoulders and back so you can have more of a taper. Don’t do weighted ab work, going to heavy will give you a thicker waist and obliques. If you get lean you will have a tighter waist and a nice taper. Try dialing in your diet and increasing cardio. Be careful with clen it can be cardio toxic. Good luck. Take care.
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JeyReign User profile
Answered: Jun 21, 2020
What the hell does cardio toxic mean?
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JohnSmith User profile
Answered: Jun 21, 2020
Unfortunately where ever you put fat first, is going to be the last place you lose it, to get fat slimmed and trimmed in that area you are going to have to train and diet to bring you body fat percentage down. This will take some time since it sounds like you are carrying some extra body fat. It may also take changes and adaptation. I suggest hiring a reputable coach to help you with a plan and to stay on track.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 21, 2020
Genetics determine muscle shape. Diet helps fat loss. I suggest a healthy low calorie diet for fat loss.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 21, 2020
Clen only burns about 300 kcals per day, which would be achieved much more easily with diet without all the risk.
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Joeskee User profile
Answered: Jun 21, 2020
Listen I had the same problem a little fat around my back area but once I jump on anavar it came off within a few weeks but everybody is different and of course I did a lot of cardio it`s must I can`t stress that fact enough. Good luck.
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I am about to order and start my annual summer cutting cycle but I have never used clen before and I don’t understand the Mcg, How many pills a day would be average dosage?
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nickname_238 User profile
Answered: Jun 08, 2020
Each pill is 40mcg you can split them and see how you react to 20mcg for a couple of days. You can raise the dose by 20mcg every other day, until you get to 80-or 100mcg I wouldn’t go over 120mcg. Clen can be cardio toxic so don’t abuse it. You may experience minor headaches, muscle cramps, and tremors in the hands. You can run it for 2 weeks on then take 2 weeks off. Good luck. Take care.
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Jogger User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 08, 2020
Above answer is good bro, start low and increase to check tolerance levels, do 2 weeks on and 2 off, good luck
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Onyx User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 08, 2020
I am using now clen. It is a great drug for weight loss. Start with 20 mch and raise the dose by 20 mgs every 3 days. That is how I do it. Don`t go over 120 mcg. You can use it two weeks on, two weeks off or you can get to 120 mgs and do 2 days 120 mgs and two days off until you are happy with the results. I personally do it two weeks on and two weeks off, but I know people who do it two days on, two days off and have great results. I wish you a successful cycle!
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 08, 2020
Mcg is an micro gram. A very low dosage so with clen you start out at 20 or 40 mcg it can give you all kinds of side effects and you have to keep increasing the dosage. And at the end of the day it might be only burning 2 or 300 extra calories per day. So if your diet is perfect it`s a waste
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JDaddy User profile
Answered: Jun 09, 2020
Pyramid`ing is used typically with clen. starting at 20 mcg a day up to 120 mcg a day. BEWARE!!! please be mindfull of heart palpatations and arithmia and or the shakes. these are all side effects of clen. personally i dislike the way i feel when im on the stuff…just feel like garbage on top of grabage already because you need to be running a calorie defecit anyway. I`ve seen too many people using clen and eating pizza and burgers…basically negating all the benefits of the clen but putting the body thru the ringer
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I`m 28/m/240, trying to lose 25 to 30 lbs for a jui jitsu tourny. Every time Ive cut in the past I lose a lot of strength. I`ve never used any hear before, bought some Winnie, some avar, want to pick one of those and use with clen. Even if my only goal is to lose fat while maintaining muscle, do I still need a test base? Or could using one of the orals with the clen work, don`t care about shreddedness, etc, just strength and the weight loss.
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Heavy Lifted 91 User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
Yes, you should absolutely run a test base with any cycle, compound, and certainly any oral. Clen is known to be catabolic as well. Not sure why you`d lose a ton of strength while cutting unless you`re dropping weight too fast which in that case it wouldn`t be just fat you`re losing.
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Vitruvius User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
I really just notice the strength changes in my Olympic lifting, much more powerful at 240 vs 210. I know that a lot of oly lifters stay very light but very strong and they all pop for Winnie. But I`m def going to have to lose some muscle mass also it`s unavoidable.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
You always need test unless your not interested in being able to perform in the bedroom. Even 100mg per week is fine it will help keep every thing working
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Vitruvius User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
Test E, 50mg 2x wk good?
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LeviHeatonIII User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
If you need to lose that much weight steroids are the wrong route. Your nutrition and cardio obviously suck and steroids are not going to fix that. Steroids make you gain weight, not lose weight and you are talking about a shit ton of fat.
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Chayseboii User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
I`m a brown belt and I compete as well. I don`t like winny, I felt brittle like my knees were about to break every time. I like 400-500 test. Maybe a EQ for endurance , and NPP for added strength . Diet has everything to do with cutting. Clen will help a little but it`s nothing compared to pure diet . Everyone always wants the easy way out and rely on drugs . But diet is everything . I can cut or bulk on every steroid ! I stopped cutting weight for jiu Jitsu because technique alone will win me matches . For MMA I do cut because you can feel the power behind every strike . Clen will make your heart work hard so I tend to gas out faster . Some guys claim clen makes their endurance better but fuck that not for me , my heart pounds on it. All the steroids will do is keep you motivated and keep the muscle in a cutting diet . It won`t help you cut fat. My secret stack for jiu Jitsu is 400 test , 400 mast , 600Eq , cardarine , ostarine , and nasal spray to olen your nose when u compete . But then again for jiu Jitsu technique is everything
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Vitruvius User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
I do agree, maybe if I was better… But 94kg is a good fit for me, maybe 100 kg, but when you get to the superheavies, it`s the chance for injury that I don`t like. When those guys grab your neck or head… Thanks for the response tho
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
I think anavar is too weak to make it worth my time or money (my opinion) and winstrol makes my elbows feel like they are grinding when I workout. I can`t imagine trying to fight with it or something. I would take your diet seriously and use a Test base if you really want to dabble with AAS. Your caloric expenditure and consumption paired with technique are everything. Clen helps but it will make your heart feel like it`s gonna burst. Other than DNP, nothing will be a magic pill to make you shed weight quick without a lot of work. Good luck dude. Keep it simple and you will feel the best.
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AntonioBagala User profile
Answered: Jun 06, 2020
I myself have had great results for losing weight running the test blends. I would definitely reccomend the test tren mast blend. But be ready for some painful injections. But you get used to the pain over time. But definitely a solid shredding stack.
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What`s a good start dosage for a female trying to shred some fat? Is she able to have caffeine or preworkout with clen. Is it something you would want to run all day or just before a workout? Thanks
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ThePony User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Start with half a pill, 20mcg, then go to twice a day the next day or two, then 40, and 20, and 40 and 40. That should be sufficient. Cycle on and off every two weeks.
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Dose User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Start slow as it comes with some uncomfortable sides. I take 40 and 20 and slowly up my dose through my cycle and sometimes get to 80 and 40
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Do what pony said I personally did have pre workout and caffeine but I tolerate this stuff well, be wary of sides and take care
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Clen User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Some people are fine and see benefits with 40mcg. Others need more, and have a tolerance to it. Start small and work up slowly every few days.
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Cutting User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Eat in a calorie deficit, train hard, do your cardio and add in a little clen at 40mcg in the morning and in the afternoon.
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JMann User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
First start with cleaning your diet up, and adding cardio. Instead of relying on a drug right off the bat,which can be heart toxi and have a lot of side effects. Unless you are getting ready for a competition, then I would think about it. Since you mentioned none of the above that leads me to believe you want a magic pill solution, Put some hard work in first and stay consistent, then come back and give us a detailed goal you want to achieve.
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Would tren and clean only be a good cutting cycle?
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Answered: Feb 02, 2020
If you have ran both at different times and have experience with them. But always a test base.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 02, 2020
Hey Nic, those are two of the most dangerous compounds in their own respect in my opinion. If you have not run tren before and you don`t have vast experience with other compounds I would advise against it. It is the most neurotoxic steroid available. I wouldn`t touch clen if I wasn`t competing professionally. Too many horror stories regarding heart issues. To answer your question, yes, both of those compounds are for the cutting phase; however, tren can be used to gain as well. Thanks for the question
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Tren n clen User profile
Answered: Feb 02, 2020
Tren is a great compound to add mass and maintain and create lean muscle while in a calorie deficit. Clen is a beta b antagonist and stimulates your metabolism and ability to burn fat. I don`t and would never recommend you take a drug to burn calories that you are consuming to put to use to build mass, so effectively, no.
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ThePony User profile
Answered: Feb 02, 2020
No, clen increases your metabolic rate and would decreSe the amount of calories free to repair and build lean muscle tissue. Pick a goal and focus on that. Don`t try to do both despite the ability of doing both while on gear.
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Nope User profile
Answered: Feb 02, 2020
Tren is great for both, clen only has one effect and it`s not for building. You can run it if you`re looking to burn fat but don`t see why you`d bulk if you`re over weight.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Feb 02, 2020
That`s what tren does best,run test p, with tren a that will do wonders
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Im 170lbs and about 5` 8″. If I just run the winny and clen cycle what would be a good dose for them? I`m trying to just cut down wait and help in a weight cut and build some strength.
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nickname_219 User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
With out test you probably wont be able to get your dick hard while on cycle you will be agut down. But beside that run it at 50 mg per day split in 2 dosages if possiable use clen at 20mcg to start slowly in increase every few days dont go over 100mcg oer day run it 2 weeks on 2 weeks of. If you run test you can dona low dosage anywhere between 100mg per week to 200 to keep you normal
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Papi1266 User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
I would run Winny at 50mgs per day, I would run Clen at 100mgs every other day, I would recommend so test maybe at 250 a week as well to counter any sides.
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Super Dad User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
I`m going to be honest not to be hurtful but to be helpful get your diet right set a goal weight with hit that shit. Use the clan if you must 20 micrograms on day one going up from there if you feel the shakes that means it`s working if you use it and don`t fill the shape that means it`s not working get a heart rate monitor and watch it religiously. watch your blood sugar, has any drops in it will give you an adverse side effects to the of the clen .Clen is powerful shit in its own right. Next is cardio cardio cardio riding a bike swim I don`t give a shit what you do as long as that heart rate is above 100 beats a minute. Another little trick is to walk for 20 minutes after every meal if you follow this shit religiously I promise you brother will hit that goal and no time. Save the injectables for when it`s time to build muscle. Good luck
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Barry Gibson User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
You need test 200mg per week no less than 100mg weekly for libido man.
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
You`re asking questions but not listening to the answers. You cannot use any steroids without testosterone. Any steroid will shut down your natural production of it. When you stip the winny (or whatever) you will have 0 testosterone. Tou will lose all muscle and gain back all fat plus more. You NEED Testosterone and PCT for any cycle. Again do a lot of research while using the clen. You can lose fat and gain muscle on that with proper diet and lifting. Do a cycle in a month or two when you are actually ready.
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omeed haji User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
you want to get cut take 250mg of test P and you can run Winny also everyday for 6 with you will get good results but without test it`s risk for your liver and health
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I`m a 170lbs male and I just got Anavar (10mg), Winstrol (10mg), and Clenbuterol (40mcg). What would a cycle look for all three of these?
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Taylor User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
I would do them no longer than 8 weeks, incorporating the clen for the last 6 weeks of your cycle
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PunchNpie User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
What kind of goals are you trying to achieve? Obviously you are trying to cut up/get shredded, but that combination of stuff alone would not be my first choice. I mean that`s a lot of stress in your liver combining all orals, plus you didn`t mention using testosterone as a base least, I would never run any cycle with out least test in the background. Why don`t you purchase a bottle or two of before you start deciding on a cycle. And maybe drop either the winny or the anavar so you don`t risk to much liver strain.
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Papi1266 User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
I agree with others, I would not take more than 8 weeks, and run a pct during and afterward.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
You need to run a form of test with these compounds or you just wasting your time. You will receive very little gains and not keep what you get.
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
Pros run Winstrol and Anavar together all the time but if you`re here asking you should pick one and run that. You will need some testosterone as winny and var will shut your natural production down. I would suggest using the clen now at 40mcg/day increasing to 80 if you can handle it. You need to go 2 weeks on amd 2 weeks off as it will quickly lose its effectiveness. Do a lot of research and plans on running a cycle in a month or two when you`re better prepared. You dont have half of what you need, most importantly PCT. You need to provide more info if you want better info in return. Height, age, goals, experience…
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JB205 User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 14, 2020
Take it from me, someone who made mistakes and never had real guys with experience to give me advice, I just had other clueless friends who tried the everything we could and seriously fucked up our bodies. Yes, you could run those orals at 4 to 6 weeks max, running 2 orals together can be very dangerous to your health. I highly recommend using at least a minimum dose of testosterone to your cycle and achieve the best results and safer. If you run orals only, I would run anavar first the winny with clen. Take the advice of the guys trying to help you stay safe.
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So I have a question; I have very little Sust left of my cycle, I ordered some more and it`s on its way, although what happens if when it runs out I continue with Test P, then after finishing Test P, I use Sust at the end so like 4 weeks Sust, 4 weeks Test P, 4 weeks Sust
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 09, 2020
You shouldn`t have any issues. You`ll just have to modify how often and how much you pin to maintain your desired mg per week, but should be fine.
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Lorddrip User profile
Answered: Jan 09, 2020
Cruise if have to unless I`m reading this wrong way and got confused on what was asked but if I do understand you can cruise on a long ester and be fine good luck
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FatDadstack User profile
Answered: Jan 09, 2020
I run test prop yr around and but have switch between sust 250 and test P without really noticing any real difference? Other than for me i hold less water with prop but sust is my great stuff. Youll just have to pinn every other day or evey Day to maintain blood levels.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Jan 09, 2020
Yes test is test run. It just try to keep blood stable and know the esters
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Jan 09, 2020
It all testosterone. You`ll just have to adjust your injection schedule. Also prop is 84% testosterone and sustanon is about 70% so you will want to adjust your dosage accordingly. 100mg EOD of prop should be fine if you`re running 500/week sus.
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Peter User profile
Answered: Jan 09, 2020
At the end of the day, Test is test. Just very different esters your dealing with so you have to get the timing down with each. So yes it`s totally possible to switch mid cycle
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So i`m a smaller guy, weighing 160 and want to get down to 120 (my mindset) well as low as i can get in two weeks. I Have clenbuterol. Any diet suggestions, clen suggestions any suggestions?
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EDubz User profile
Answered: Nov 19, 2019
How tall are you? Just curious why you want to get down to 120?
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Idiot User profile
Answered: Nov 19, 2019
This is a fucking joke,..P.simple.you will basically need to starve yourself to loose all muscle and fat and do not train at all.why would you want to be a grown man at 120lbs??? Start crack
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Manster User profile
Answered: Nov 19, 2019
I don`t agree with those goals. Its completely unhealthy to try to achieve and it would be irresponsible of anyone to try and give advice on how to achieve it.
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Matthew User profile
Answered: Nov 19, 2019
40 pounds in 2 weeks??! There`s only 2 ways but you are not hoping to like it. Smoke crack cocaine none stop or amputate one leg. All joking aside. It is impossible even to lose 20 pounds in 2 weeks. Your goal is not attainable.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Nov 19, 2019
Simple, chop off your leg. If that doesn’t do it chop off an arm.
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Cowboys20 User profile
Answered: Nov 19, 2019
Dropping 40pds is a lot and sound unhealthy. Why do you want to drop to 120? You`ll probably look anorexic. If you want to lose body fat, then eat very little carbs and focus on healthy fats and protein. Eat lots of vegetables. They are low calorie. What`s the reason?
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using clen only, how much, how long. What would you guys recommend. And no pct correct?
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Kikko User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
What are you trying to grt out of corn? Weight loss? If so what is your current BMI?
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Matthew User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Clenbuterol is not a steroid. So it doesn`t stop you natural test production. You do not need to restart your testes. It`s a bronchodilator. Open your airway. It increase heart rate. Most use Clen to lose weight.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
no pct, try day 1-2 20mcgday 3-4 40mcgday 5-6 60mcgI would go max to 80mcg a day for a few days then drop to 60,40,202 weeks on 2 offdiet is always better though this is quite a dangerous drug
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Grut User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
These compounds are meant to be cycled 4 to 6 weeks and preferably taken with test as a base because they will shut down your natural test production. You can run anavar longer because if it`s mild nature. You will see nothing and benefit nothing buy taking these compounds “here and there”. What does that even mean? Do more research, educate yourself and be safe.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Correct. Recommend 4 on 3 off protocol. For males start with 10 mcgs four days in a row then three off. The next week up it by 10 per day and three off, keep upping it until you can feel that you are taking something. Once you do stay at that dose which would be your lowest effective dose. The dose will end up being 50 a day or less. The three days off resets your tolerance
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I’ve use clen before.. everybody is different, I went up to 120mcg but please do not do that if you can’t ecen handle 20mcg. Some people are feeling shitty at 20mcg when I could perfectly handle 120mcgs. Do 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, have a perfect diet and results will be there. Best of luck
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hey all pretty new to this. running deca 250 / test plex / anadrol oral .. week 3. Okay results. Diet is excellent. I don’t want to bulk. I want to lean and drop unwanted fat. Read good things on T3 was thinking about throwing clen in. As for an oral + injectable… Sdrol? Plus what…? Shredding is the main goal. i’m 5’11 194 don’t care my weight so long as I’ve reached my goal. Look forwards to ur guys answers, thanks!
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George Black User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Might not want to hear this..but if your new to all this I wouldn`t be running all kind a different compounds. You can achieve great results with a minimal dose of test and good diet along with training. Fasted cardio will do the trick as well.
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
First and foremost you want to be safe. If you`re new to aas you have no business trying to incorporate multiple compounds into your first cycle. Your likely to do more harm than good. TEST ONLY. 250-300 mgs per week. You want to gain the most on as little gear as possible.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
I love test plex but 6 different esters for someone new –not needed. There really is no need to add all these different compounds heres why, I made some of my best gains on my first few cycles so at the very least you are wasting money. You also loose the ability to discern what drugs work best for you as an individual that comes from adding 1 drug at a time and seeing what drugs work best in your body. Also, I love anadrol but perhaps the most toxic AAs on planet earth, you really need to know what you are doing to use this product safely and effectively. I know lots of guys that paid a heavy price by using this product too long, too high and simply not knowing what they were doing. It`s only been 3 weeks bro, hormones are a powerful tool but just a tool, why would you add something after 3 weeks clen takes lots of knowledge to be used effectively and probably dose no good at higher body fat percentages. but I`m no ones mom. I just never use clen because frankly It takes so much work and the side effects suck, but I know many who swear by it good luck. Diet cardio and maybe some test is all you need come on bro
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Md Phd User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Ditto. Diet & cardio. Why on earth would someone run clen? Side effects of clenbuterol include: a) Increased heart rate, anxiety and palpitations b) Sweating and tremors c) Insomnia d) Psychological and emotional issues E) Vascular effects that may cause heart attacks, as a powerful beta-stimulant, many of the side are neurological. Keep asking questions
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seoulmates User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Buy CY3 from dragon pharma it will change your life bro.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Clen isnt going to help much. It`s really for contest prep and if you really below 10%. Not guessing your 10% or using a picture to decide you are. I`m in clen now for contest prep and my diet is what will get me to 6% currently 9%. Clen just helps at this game of contest prep. You just need to get your calorie deficit in check. Good luck
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Clen ONLY CYCLE, how much per day, how long to go for and any recommendations
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
You can start at 40mcg per day and see how if effects you dont go over 100mcg per day. After a week or so at 40mcg the shakes and other side effects lesson becuase your getting used to it. That doesnt mean that it isnt stiff doing what its supposed to do. Some do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Really clen can have bad effects on the heart. Your supposed to use it when you have already been dieting for a long period of time and your body Is fighting the last bit of fat loss. Keep in mind that clen really only burns an extra 300 calories a day so if you cheat on your diet it`s pointless to use. Its not a miracle fat loss drug. You have to be counting calories for it to work. Drink lots of waterDay 1 to 5 40mcg 6 to 8 60mcg9 to12 80 McGee13 to 14 100mcgDay 15 60mcg Then take 2 weeks off
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Anknymous User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Imma be straight up Bro. First I’m sure you are aware that clen is one of the worse orals to. And for your dose everybody is different, for example me I get up to 120mcg and didnt feel a thing whilst others may be shaking and cramping at 20mcg. I would recommend starting of with 20mcg so cut the pills in half and go along with that first and increase as you feel the less the better. Go 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, and absolutely no drinking and try to stay hydrated as possible because your lips will be dried. Best of luck man and take it easy.
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Anon151 User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Start with 40mcg and slowly work your way up. If it`s good clen, I wouldn`t go over 80mcg personally. You should definitely use a two weeks on, two weeks off protocol and drink plenty of water. There`s research that indicates that it can be bad for the heart. I personally prefer the ECA stack. You can still buy bronkaid over the counter in most states. Good luck bro! Stay safe!
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Clen is not worth the risk in my opinion. I`d stay away from that shit.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
I`m on a cycle of clen now. I start 20mcg for 2 days, 40mcg for 2, 60mcg for 2, 80mcg for 3 days, then 100mcg for 2 day. Then down 80mcg 2 day. I am doing 40 mins faster cardio, 1600 calories and an evening workout. So if your not doing something like this clen doesn`t work well in my opinion. It is really for very low body fat. I`m below 10%, that is a measured percentage not a guess. Good luck
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N88 User profile
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
4 days on, 3 days off. Start with 10 mcgs x 4 days then 3 off (yes cut into quarters). Then go 20 mcgs x 4 days then 3 off. The 3 off resets your tolerance so you wont have to go up to mega high doses. Up it by 10 mcgs a week until you find your dose and it wont be very high so you`ll save a ton a clen vs going up to mega doses. I`ve used clen off and on for 20 years and the old way of using it for weeks then going off for weeks is a complete waste…now i use way less clen and dont have as much health risks. Lastly if you are not competing it`s not worth using it…use carderine instead….much safer.
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I was taking clen by dragon Pharma for 2 weeks and I had barely any symptoms, I would only get twitchy and jittery after 60mcg but only maybe for 10 minutes a day, when I took 20 or 40mcg it did not effect me. Even at 60 and 80, I did not feel like it made me gain much energy, nor was my body heating up. I was able to sleep fine and had no problems. Is this normal? Should I take up to 120mcg my second time taking it? Will I get more symptoms the second time?
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JayP User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
It is quite possible that your body is handling the Clen quite well. However, you shouldn`t be placing more stress on it by adding unnecessary dosages that will do more harm than good. Just stick with the small effective dosages. Just because you don`t “feel” the effects doesn`t mean it`s not working. Also, it`s not a complete thermogenic. If anything you should pyramid up and pyramid down with your doses. In addition, give your body a rest by taking 2 weeks off after conducting a 14 day pyramid. Lastly, EVERYONE is different. So a dosage may work for one person, while that same dosage will not work for another.
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Anon151 User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Sounds like your body is able to.handle the Clem well. I`m the same way. Do you happen to be caffeine tolerant or pre workout tolerant as well?? Not everyone reacts the same. I leave the dosages alone especially if your diet is good and you are seeing results.
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Hey bud. Well thats good news. I can`t even handle 50mg now or my stomach starts to hurt. If you feel comfortable upping your dose then by all mean try it out. Just be careful as that extra 10-20mg can make big difference to some. Good luck bud.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
It could be underdosed. But you say with higher dosage you did experience the symptoms, so that`s good! Perhaps you have high tolerance for sympathomimetics. A good way to lower this tolerance is to use some ketotifen (Naps also carries it).
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
I’ve been taking this exact thing for the last 6 months. I know your supposed to cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off so your receptors don’t down grade, but I figure it was originally designed for asthma patients so it must be safe to take daily. In any case, I’m taking a 40mcg pill, with 800 mg caffeine and 81mg aspirin..3 times a day. I don’t get any sides like jitters or sweats or racing heart. My heart rate stays a 68 at rest, and I have no trouble sleeping. The only thing I notice when I lower the dose to (1) pill a day, is that I can’t get my heart rate to 146 while doing cardio, and cardio is tougher. I’m going to take a break for two weeks, to see if I can come back and see any effect with (1) pill a day, as opposed to needing (3) or (4).
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Everyone is different and it sounds like you probably don`t have a problem with caffeine or pre workouts either. I would think if your sleeping fine and not experiencing any sort of chest pain, by all means up your dose. I like keeping a journal so I have something I can reference if symptoms show up. It sounds like you know what your doing, so continue to listen to your body and have fun! Best of luck mate.
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Someone can help. Where to buy adderall without prescription?? Thanks.
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SteveC User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Firstly, idk why you would want that garbage. If you`re trying to use it for bodybuilding purposes then you`re wasting money. Secondly, you cant get it on here. I work at a doctors office, the best way to get it is to tell your doctor you are having symptoms of adhd and most doctors will give it to you without a 2nd thought.
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JayP User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Well, I know that this is a site to acquire AAS. However, you`re looking in the wrong place bud. Your best bet is to talk to your doctor about your concerns. Most providers will listen and will most likely prescribe you what you need. Just don`t go in and ask for it by name, it`s drug seeking behavior…
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Matthew User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Bro I hope you are not trying to lose weight with adderall. It’s like taking diet pills. It won’t work. If it does it’s only temporary. You will rebounce. You need to change eating behavior and habits. Concentrate on lifestyle changes. It will take a little time but it’s permanent. And it will worth it. You always heard of people on a diet yo-yo because they want quick fast result. It’s my 2 cents. But doctor office is where you get adderall.
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Canadian User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Dude this is not the place to ask. If you have ADHD talk to your doctor. If you don`t then dont mess with adderall, it`s pointless. I never even heard of it being used in bodybuilding, if that`s why you want it then you seriously need to reevaluate your choices.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Uhhh wrong site bud. You need to go talk to your doctor about that crap. If your wanting it to lose weight it`s not a good idea
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Your in the wrong place sir for that
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I’m looking a product to lose fat drastically and I’m thinking in Clenbuterol and cytomel, can you please give me an advice if is what I need to take. Thanks
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
What you need to take is your ass to the grocery store and buy some salads. Kidding, mostly. You won’t get results from clen unless you are trying to lose the last two pounds before a contest. It just doesn’t work like that for losing a lot of weight. Best thing I have seen is Adderall because it’s basically speed and will kill your appetite. Short of that you just need to focus on diet and training. Cytomel will increase your BMR but won’t melt the fat off. I use it because I have an autoimmune disease which made me have thyroid issues but that’s just from bad genetics. It will cause you to lose your muscle if you don’t take it with an anabolic so also not a great choice for weight loss. There is no solution in a bottle unfortunately.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Clen is not worth the side affects brotha.
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Greenleanmass User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Clen is good, with great diet and exercise routine. God bless stay safe.
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Matthew User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Diet. Diet. Diet. Oh and time! You didn’t get fat overnight. So getting skinny overnight is not possible. Evaluate your diet. Exercise regular. Avoid sugary food. And again reduce your calorie intake.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Start with diet. Gear is for that last little bit, not the first mega loss. To use a football analogy, diet and exercise gets you 99 yards, steroids gets ya the last one. If you have a bad diet, clen or anything won`t help and it will only serve to harm your health.
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Canadian User profile
Answered: Oct 03, 2019
Neither of these compounds will shred fat, they are tools that will assist you. But you said you need to drastically lose fat which makes me think you are a really big guy. If this is the case the only thing clen will do is stop your heart. Not even joking bud, if you have any stress on your heart by being over weight or high blood pressure. Clen will increase fat loss but it will also increase chance of heart attack, stroke and a bunch of other bad shit. Not fun. Clen is for people 12% bodyfat or less. It`s a pre contest drug with more risks than walking across a highway. Not for someone deciding to get in shape.
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Could any of the compounds in this product allow a false postive testing on any type of recreational drug test???
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jul 15, 2019
Clen isn`t tested in job and Gov drug tests unless its suspected. Sports do run labs for clen and it doesnt drop out of your system extremely quick. If in doubt just dont take it if your career is hinging on it. A legal alternative would be cardarine.
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Vincent Valentine User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 15, 2019
I don`t have any first-hand experience with clen, but from the research I`ve done it looks like taking clen can potentially cause a false-positive for amphetamines. I wasn`t able to gauge the likelihood of this actually happening. It seems that this is caused because clen is a beta-2 agonist (which perhaps mimics the biological activity of other stimulants). Seeing as how the half-life of clen is 48 hours I would imagine it would be nearly undetectable approximately 11-12 days after ceasing use, but it obviously depends on if the risk is worth the reward. Depending on the person/agency issuing the drug test there may be system of appeals that allow you to request a more in-depth drug analysis should clen give you a false-positive. Or perhaps you could get away with saying you use clen as a bronchodilator for a breathing condition (such as COPD or asthma) in the event that you get a false-positive. If the stakes are high, I wouldn`t risk it. The results provided by clen can be attained using other AAS compounds that don`t carry the risk of potentially making a user fail a drug test.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Jul 15, 2019
Nope. It is not in any of the same chemical categories as a seven panel drug test. It has no ability to be used to get hogh so no one is going to test for it plus it’s a medication so people may or may not be taking it legally. Another reason they wouldn’t test for it. They only test for illegal controlled substances and high abuse legal substances like opiates/opioids and benzodiazepines like Xanax and Valium etc.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 15, 2019
If by “any of the compounds” you mean clenbuterol, then the answer is no. Standard drug tests are testing drugs that may impair your judgement and your mental state. You can Google what this drug test tests for, but I can assure you, clenbuterol isn`t on that list. Unless you are a professional athlete and are being tested as part of sport regulation, you have nothing to worry about.
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Jul 15, 2019
I personally have seen test come back false positive for energy drinks, so I would think yes it could cause a false positive. Vincent V, explains it quit well and like he said if there`s even a chance is it really worth it? You might be able to obtain the #of the company running the test and ask them directly if Clen will give a positive result. Best of luck mate.
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03D User profile
Answered: Jul 15, 2019
It could but as they mentioned above, it all depends on what they are testing you for.
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Since clen is`nt exactly a steroid, would it be okay with just taking it alone & not with any type of test?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 03, 2019
Yes that is true. Although steroids are much more effective for building muscle and less dangerous.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 03, 2019
Yes you can take it by itself but be careful when playing with clen. Clen can cause heart damage if you don`t know what you are doing
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 03, 2019
You are correct in that clen will not shut down your natural testosterone function. However, clen is outdated and not used anymore due to minimal extra weight loss and permanent heart cell destruction. Try ephedrine with caffeine instead. It will not only increase weight loss but it will also suppress your appetite.
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 03, 2019
Yeah you can use clenbuterol as a standalone without issue.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jul 03, 2019
Yes many take it off cycle to drop fat which it works just fine. Be careful and go low dose since it is very harmful to your heart. Best protocol in my opinion is 4 days on 3 days off. the 3 days off will reset your tolerance and you wont have to increase to crazy high dosages every week to have any effect. Start with 10 mcgs first 4 days then 3 off. If you do not feel anything bump up to 15 or 20 for 4 then 3 off…..and so on. once you find where you feel something…should be somewhere around 20 to 30 when first starting off for males….then stick with that dose and dont increase. you`ll lose why less clen and will get the same results. besides clen, I would try Cardarine first….it works just as good for fat loss and zero sides.
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
Answered: Jul 03, 2019
You realise clens only gonna burn like 200 or so calories a day. It`s more for contests and the last tricky percentages of fat
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What the best compound to run to burn fat? Is it Test and winny or Test and Clen? or test and clen?
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Strictly fat burning compounds would be cardarine, clen and T3. Anabolics do have fat burning effects w/tren being the king of shredding in opinion but if you are not an experienced user with several cycles under your belt, dont recommend tren just yet. Test, Mast, winny, anavar and a few others can all burn fat but keep in mind that fat burning starts with diet and calories expended.
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Swoleville User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Test prop and tren ace with a superdrol kicker
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Tren ace. Test prop for dry gains as stated earlier as well. Superdrol I have also read is a great dry gains steroid. Dry gains are pure muscle, “wet gains” like with dbol are full of water retention so once all the water is lost you`re not left with as much muscle you see? Also t3 is great at revving up your metabolism. But diet is key. For example if you overeat by 800 calories and these drugs/supplements burn say 400 calories all on their own which is a ton of calories burned for doing nothing (they may burn like 250 calories or 300 in actuality) you`re still gonna get fat but at a slower pace. But if you`re already eating 300 calories less and then these burn another 300 then boom you`re at a 600 calories per day deficit. Get it? They work only if you`re already on a strict diet but you can`t eat anything and get cut up because they just can`t and do not burn enough calories on their own. They only enhance your weight loss if you`re already dieting hard that`s all.
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Maison Jardin User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Test prop with tren a with anavar 50 mgs every day
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 30, 2019
Tren is the best compound for burning fat. Combining tren with the compounds you mentioned is a lethal fat burning combination.
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Guys, how many days after your “paid” approval did it take for them to ship your package?
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Tommie t User profile
Answered: May 21, 2019
It usually takes anywhere from one day to a week. If it were to take a week they probably just didn’t send you the tracking right away. So when you get the tracking your pack would most likely have moved allittle. But for the most part package ship within2-3 days
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nickname_426 User profile
Answered: May 21, 2019
Mine took just over a week this time but it has been done within 3 days on previous orders
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Newbie999 User profile
Answered: May 21, 2019
Here lately it has been slower. I’ll be at one week tomorrow. Who knows what’s going on
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: May 21, 2019
I’ve waited anywhere from 3 to 10 days. I’m seeing lots of people ask this same question, stuff is coming from over seas you better be ready to wait 3 or 4 weeks. Fulfillments are slow because they’re super busy this time of year, small price to pay for the quality and service that Naps brings.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 21, 2019
Anywhere from 3 – 7 days. Typically when you order the “product of the week” or deeply discounted products from a promo, the distribution center gets overwhelmed with orders which can add a couple of days.
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Anyone w/ positive results with clen? (I’m aware of the side affects)
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 18, 2019
Clen WILL work, assuming that your already know how to lose weight the old fashioned way by limiting your overall caloric intake. But if you are eating more calories that your body uses in a day, no amount of gear or stimulants will help you lose weight. Typically clenbuterol is used by serious athletes who are already pretty low in body fat (10% or lower), but want to shred down those last few percentage points of bodyfat for a competition or show. Keep in mind that due to desensitization, it must be cycled 2 weeks on, two weeks off. For many, it comes down to how well you tolerate the unpleasant side effects.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: May 18, 2019
I`ve ran clen at least 5-6 times now and each cycle has been very successful in getting cut up. It`s not a miracle compound and you do need to have a good diet and training routine. Adding cardio in will make it run that much better. I get very good stimulant type effects and take my full dose in the AM on an empty stomach. Tapper your dose up slowly. I usually went 4 days on 40mcg, then 4 days on 80mcg, and then topped out on 120mcg and ran that for weeks. Some people have different preferences on stopping every 2 weeks and starting back up, however I`ve heard it`s best ran and let it build up for weeks. I always leaned up super quick and one thing I learned in future cycles is tapper the dose up slower. High doses can really flatten you out and I like maintaining fullness the best I can in a cut. Be responsible and have a good diet and training routine and you`ll get very beneficial results in fat loss with clen.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: May 18, 2019
I have only used it once before for 2 weeks, 2 weeks off, repeat. The first 2 weeks I lost about 5 pounds or so but the subsequent weeks I lost almost nothing. Upping my cardio is what made me continue to lose weight at a low body fat.
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Massgains User profile
Answered: May 18, 2019
My honest opinion is clen has way to many side effects that are based around you r heart and your blood pressure. Those thing are to important in life to mess up and get such minor results anyone that says they got these great results from clen are probably confusing there results from what ever else there because I know for me and just about everyone I know didn’t get very good results on clen so why mess with your heart.
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ROBERT User profile
Answered: May 18, 2019
I`ve taken clenbuterol for a total of 6 months doing the 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off method. My results were fantastic. I would take early in the morning so by the evening I would be able to relax and sleep. Make sure you stay hydrated.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: May 18, 2019
Clenbuterol wouldn`t carry the reputation it does were it not for the number of positive results experienced. That said, you know the sides and likely there are more that are not commonly shared that may be being overlooked. Personally I don`t use Clen anymore, and it`s been quite a while since anyone I work with has used or even needed it. Best outlook to have for Clenbuterol is that it is for healthy people who are stuck during contest prep. It`s not the icing on the cake. It`s at best a candle
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What’s up guys, so while running this product what do you all recommend? Do you all like high carbs, low fats, high protein diet to prevent water? Balanced fats/carbs with high protein, or low carbs/high fats and high protein?
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RJB User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
I am running this product right now, from the advice of the guys here I go to week on 2 weeks off. Also I go with low carb high protein diet. It really isn`t a magic pill but if you keep your diet spot on it is awesome. Also ramp up dosing to check tolerance. .. . Ie. start with half a pill and work up to 1 or 2 pills.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 17, 2019
Each individual is going to have different biological requirement / a different winning formula to lose weight. A good starting point is 40% carbs, 40% protien, and 20% good fats. Keep in mind that a gram of fat has TWICE the calories of a gram of carbs or protein. Some individuals, especially females with lower muscle lass, will need to run significantly lower calories to lose fat, you have to experiment and find what works best!
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Tren Man User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
Balanced diet is the healthiest diet and don`t go overboard with protein. You need to do your research before using clen, it can potentially damage you heart, if you are playing with these compounds educate yourself about them as much as possible so you don`t run into bigger problems later on.
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ltl trucker User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
Taurine, Potassium, Electrolytes. No doubt clean helps lose body fat, as with any diet it all comes down to calories in vs calories out. So whichever diet diet works for you, i would use that. I personally always take these 5 supplements while on and off any type of cycle Ubiquinol, curcumin, NAC, vitaminK2, Arjuna extract
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N88 User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
if your intent is to lean up and cut fat it helps to be in a calorie deficit and restrict carbs. Ensure you are getting all your protein and fats in and eat veggies to fill up. Also fruit is ok in moderation
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: May 17, 2019
A caloric deficit with adequate protein is all that is needed to get the fat burning effects from this product.
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Hello, what is you guys’ experience with shipping, Customs etc with Geneza Pharmaceuticals? Any problems?
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: May 16, 2019
I`ve ran into zero issues with any of my orders. All of my orders except a solo HGH order had GP in them. Zero problems for me. Always discrete and shows up as ordered.
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Kaleb Parra User profile
Answered: May 16, 2019
I had an order containing solely GP products get to me in the US in 14 days, no problems and exactly as ordered
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N88 User profile
Answered: May 16, 2019
Zero issues with GP or DP or Alpha. They pack it very well and if the orders are small they cruise right thru customs.
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: May 16, 2019
Never had problem with GP getting seized, even if it does by any chance you naps will reship
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: May 16, 2019
Never had any problems, have always come through no issues.
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ViktorN User profile
Answered: May 16, 2019
I only order GP and I had no problem. Their quality is legit! I m starting to use Dragon. Had several orders and had no problem as well. I’ve never of any issue with these 2 brands from our Naps colleagues as well. Hope that answer your question!
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Hey guys I had a quick question; what was y’alls experience with Clen by Geneza Pharmeuticals?
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: May 13, 2019
Clen is nasty shit, but GP makes a good one. Be careful with this drug tho, it is horrible for you and much less effective than most think. It speeds me up, but makes me more hungry at the same time. Personally, I am usually better off just eating less unless it`s only a few weeks out from contest.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: May 13, 2019
Let`s just say the effects are very much what you are expecting. I was shaking like I had Parkinsons; well I am exaggerating, but my metabolism was raised and I did lose quite a bit of fat. It was a challenge though, side effects of clen aren`t all that nice. Like Lav3ga said, you are better off just lowering your calories a tad bit, and you will get exact same effects. From what I heard, clen only raises your TDEE by a few hundred calories. GP is legit though.
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Anonymous User profile
Answered: May 13, 2019
GP has a solid reputation and they have been around for years. Clen and T3 can potentially be dangerous for heart
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 13, 2019
I`m with Lavaga, Clen is very harsh and not something to be taken lightly. Having said that Geneza has an EXCELLENT reputation, and independent 3rd party lab tests back this up. So if you are concerned about quality and potency, you can rest easy.
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Bigtrouble User profile
Answered: May 13, 2019
Clen and HGH were a great combo for me.
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nickname_963 User profile
Answered: May 13, 2019
Be extremely cautious with clen. All geneza products are GTG. Everything I have ordered from them has been super. Just make sure you know how to dose if you decide to purchase the Clen. Good luck!
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Can you use clen in conjunction with the following cycle, test c 500 ml wk / mast 400 ml wk / tren 500 ml wk / hgh 4-5 IU a day , and if so, for how long?
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Massgains User profile
Answered: May 08, 2019
You run clen as the Pyramid start low and double dose until you get to around 160mcg and the back down low. Two weeks on two weeks off is the cycling for clen.
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smalldres User profile
Answered: May 08, 2019
Yes you can. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Start dose at 20-40mcg and go up by 20mcg every 3-4 days.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: May 08, 2019
2 weeks on then 2 weeks off unless you`re using ketotifen or benadryl supposedly.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: May 08, 2019
You can. I wouldn`t. Tren alone will likely effect your blood pressure while depleting the heart of essentials. Throwing clenbuterol into the mix doesn`t seem like a wise move. I`d wait. Let the cycle do its magic. Recover. Then bring clen in. As for how to run clen, Smalldres` answer is the standard. Only thing I`d adapt if need be is the intervals at which you increase. Some can handle it better than others. Monitor your heart, take lots of potassium and taurine and quit if sides get bad
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2019
I would personally drop the Clen. .. that`s already a huge stack and is a big strain on your heart. As others have indicated, you have to run 2 week on, 2 week off “cycles” as you become desensitizes to the drug.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2019
Yes you can. Like other commenters have already mentioned, keep it short, or buy ketotifen and use it in conjunction for longer, so as to not build tolerance.
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Hi . Can I use d-bol with GP Clen and anavar ? How many dosage… Thanks for answering
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D-man User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
Again Clen is a cutting drug. D-bol is for mass gain. You need to figure out what your goals are and go from there. Anavar is one of the mildest steroids out there. D-bol is one of the strongest orals. So taking Anavar with D-bol would be a waste of money. Also taking 2 oral steroids in the same cycle would be detrimental to your liver. If you are looking for a good beginner cycle, I would suggest 500 mg of Testosterone Enanthate, with an AI such as Arimidex or Aromasin. And don`t forget the PCT.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
You need some injectable test to go with all the orals. I would run 250mg a week of test e with 30mg of dbol for 4 weeks then run the anavar for the rest of the cycle. The clen can be used the whole time cycled in and off 2 weeks at a time.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 13, 2019
Just like your previous question (1) you are proposing combining a hardcore cutting drug (with serious side effects) with a bulking compound know for blowing you up rapidly = very bad idea (2) You can`t safely run multiple orals at the same time, this will damage your liver and can land you in the hospital with liver failure (3) You need to run a testosterone base, in fact I would just run a testosterone enanthate or cypionate cycle at 500mg per week before you start stacking multiple compounds together haphazardly (no disrespect intended).
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 14, 2019
I have to agree with most of what was stated, it would be foolish to run dbol clen and anavar at once. You could run dbol for 6-8 weeks to bulk up then run anavar and clen to cut whatever Unwanted bodyfat was gained during bulking and preserve with anavar, some not all of the muscle that was gained bulking, but I don’t agree with the fact of needing to run test alone for your first cycle while it is recommended to gauge how your body takes exogenous hormones, I personally ran dbol and test for my very first cycle at pretty easy doses.
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If I’m doing sus 270 for 15wks and MHN for the first 7 was, is Clen ok to take? And what dose should I look at taking? What can I expect as far as helping burn fat?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 09, 2019
Yes clen can be stacked with those compounds considering it is not an anabolic. You should start on the low side in the 20mcg per day range. You can then work up as your body adjust to as much as 80-120mcg per day. Yo are going to want to have taurine on hand since there can be a lot of cramping at the beginning until your body adjusts. Don`t take for longer than 4 weeks since it can be hard on your heart. That being said it is a very effective compound for burning fa and you will see great results.
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bigmurph User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 09, 2019
I have personally used all 3 products you should start low with the.MHN 20mg split a day and then keep going up until you are at 40mg split day. The stuff is great if you train hard it will burn fat quickly and give you a rock solid appearance.The sust I don`t know how you`re going to take it but I reccomend either. On wed Friday injections or inject every other day this is truly the best way because of the propionate ester in the mix.At the end when you start your clen once again start as low as possible and work your way up through the side effects. Once you have reached your max remember to cycle on and off 2wk on 2wk off. If you don`t do this your body will just build a tolerance to it you can use benadryl to help speed up the process of cleaning your receptors and if you can find it you can take Ketotifen and never have to come off.This is an excellent fat burning cycle but you still need a solid diet and hard training the compounds won`t do it o. There own.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 09, 2019
Clen is fine to add so long as your careful to properly cycle it. I like to taper the dose up over two weeks, and then take two weeks off. Everyone is different and responds different to clen. I like to take enough so if I try to hold my hand flat, it twitches gently. Not shaking violently, just twitches. Clen has some stong side effects so if your missing sleep or cardio sessions because your heart feels funny, it`s not for you. In my experience clen helps on a marginal level. It all still comes down to diet and training, clen is just the icing on the cake ON TOP OF an excellent implementation of diet and training.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 09, 2019
Adding Clen would be fine, and you have already received sound advice regarding cycling and dosage, etc. But please keep in mind that Clen is a harsh drug really suited for shaving off that final few percentage points of bodyfat AFTER you have plateaued your weight loss through proper diet. If your currently 15-20% (or more) bodyfat, adding more compounds is not the answer, rather you should develop a sound diet and exercise plan and exhaust all tools (intermittent fasting, fasted cardio, etc) first.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 19, 2018
The best protocol is to start out at 20mcg everyday and dose up by 20mcg after the side effects have subsided. Clen has a half life of 26 hours so taking one dose a day it will still be active in your system.

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