I`ve never used Clen 40 before. I know I do two weeks on two weeks off. How long can I do this for? And what`s the recommended dose? I plan on running this with test/ eq/ deca.
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
Hello A19, When I did this a few times I only did 10 – 20 MCG EOD (way back then there where multiple peptides USA sites selling this in liquid form, which is way better IMO) because I really needed time to recover from the high stimulation from it; I ran it with Testosterone and Dianabol once and then with just Testosterone. The extra AAS was a bit much and I do not remember if I did it with Nandrolone though. Sweating in a 70 degree room with nothing on but boxers on was interesting. Make sure to drink water and I would not suggest taking a dose higher than 20 to start out with for the first 2 weeks to know your reactions. It is normally ran in Pyramid format and I would not run it for more than 4-6 weeks on (not including off) for the total length of the cycle and you may find you can adjust this to more or less but read your body. Make sure to take it the morning or shortly after so it can dissipate before bedtime. Plasma levels of clenbuterol reached the maximum value of 0.1, 0.2 and 0.35 ng/ml, respectively, in a dose-dependent manner within 2.5 h, which lasted for over 6 h after the administration. The half-life of clenbuterol in plasma was estimated to be about 35 h; with all that being said be careful bro, it can be heart harsh. Enjoy the ride but some physical effort was just grueling at points and I left work a few times. Be safe and good lift to you bro.
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Will1 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
Clen is a fantastic cutter if you have your diet and training in order. You`ll still need to do cardio and low calories but it just adds that nice extra touch of hardness. You can run clen multiple different ways, you do not need to do 2 weeks on and then 2 weeks off. You can run it straight for a month or two but going longer wouldn`t be recommemded as it will down regulate. If you do the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, that keeps your body fresher to the compound longer and shouldn`t mess with your health unless you have an underlying condition. You can run either way and I`ve been on as long as about 1.5 months straight with no issues. Clen will still work for you while running it for awhile like that, but the effects you feel do dicipate. The fat loss benefits take quite some time to down regulate though unless I read wrong. But I prefer being on it longer for like that last month of a cut as it adds the finishing touches. I`d recommend you at least wait until you`re near the end of your cut before adding it. Add it too early and it will not be as effective for you as you started with a higher bodyfat and you tun out of tools to add.
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BigZ User profile
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
I love clen I run it for 3 weeks at a time usually 80mcg most of the 3 weeks bumping it to 120mcg for the last few days. It will cut you up if your diet and cardio are on point.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
Just so you know clen will only burn approx. 300 extra calories per day so dont waste it and dont expect a miracle pill. Also if your using test deca cycle and bulking dont use clen it`s pointless and you dont need ew and deca with test pick one . Next cycle when your cutting you can use clen towards the end of the cycle when you are low in calories and heavy on cardio it will help burn more fat but for now your wanting to put on muscle so dont use it
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
There`s actually more than one way to use it. Some ramp up their dosage to the maximum amount they can handle with the sides and run it for a week or two and take time off. Others will start with a small dose and just ramp up slowly over 5-6 weeks and then take some time off. I actually prefer the second to the first as you never really experience any noticeable sides other than cramping of certain muscles. If you google Clen cycle protocols a bunch of info comes up. Try something and see how you like it. Best of luck to you.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
It is always the diet and not a pill. Do you know why? With hundreds of millions of obese people worldwide if a pill worked for fat loss wouldn`t every doctor prescribe it? Yes clen, t3, etc works, but how much? Very little. Maybe 200 calories to 300 calories burned daily maximum. Why do people use these pills then for fat loss? If they`re dieting very hard, an extra couple pounds of fat loss can mean the difference between first place vs second place. But if you`re overweight by say 40lbs and you lose say 3lbs, would anybody notice it, obviously nobody will notice any fat loss because being 37lbs overweight or 40lbs overweight or say even 36lbs overweight is really the same thing for all practical purposes. But if you have your diet dialed in use it. Don`t go over 2 months tops because clen is bad for your heart.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 01, 2020
Just do as they said but Clint is hard on your organs I just watch it and take the guy`s advice here
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My wife is looking to try out the Clen rather than anavar because it won`t mess with hormones. What is your recommendation for dosage and protocol. How long would you recommend taking it and is tapering off necessary. She`s a personal traininer and diet/cardio is on point she`s just looking to get that little extra shred going. Thanks in advance.
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Kevinfitdude User profile
Answered: Jun 29, 2020
I train my wife fit_mom who is a competitive physique bodybuilder. So sounds like you need to research more. Anavar is a steroid and isn`t used for fat loss.. In many women anavar can bloat them. Clen is a bronchodilator and is used to increase hr. Normaly is cycled 2 weeks on and off. Some will pyramid up and down. I dont think clen will work for her. He diet and workout is obviously not on point if she can`t lose that little bit of fat. Women use clen for that last couple of weeks of a show prep. If she is not 10% or lower in real body fat measurements your wasting time with clen. Get her hormones checked. More than likely her test is too low. Women need more test than most dr.s think. New research is showing that what we thought women should have is actually too low. Good luck.
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Donald_Pump User profile
Answered: Jun 29, 2020
Hey bro, I started taking Clen a couple months ago and love it – but it is very strong so it is best to start slow and to not take for more than two weeks at a time. The dosing/protocol that works best for me is one pill (in the morning) for the first 5 days, then two pills/day (one in the morning and one around noon, before lunch) for 10 days. That equates to a total of 25 pills in 15 days. After that I take 15 days off, then start again with one x 5 days then two x 10 days. This lets you get an even 4 “cycles” out of one order of 100 tabs. Again, it is strong and your wife might want to start with 1/2 pill, working up to one or two a day. If I take two at once I get weird shakes. Hope this helps, good luck!
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 29, 2020
Hello second2none, since the mcg dose of the pills on this site are 40 mcg base I suggest starting at 1/4 a pill (if able to split it that far) EOD and if you are unable to split it that far just do 1/2 EOD for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. When I did Clenbuterol it was a liquid form and I could get 10 MCG and that was all I could handle a day with the day off the next to recover. I remember I did 30 MCG once and I was standing in the middle of an air conditioned room, in my underwear with socks and still sweating. I say this so you know to have her stay hydrated and nutrient and mineral filled. Let me know if this helps and I hope it does! Stay healthy, safe and live well bro! PLEASE up us vote for Q&A and for Product of The Week! Reply if you need to.
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MichaelSmith User profile
Answered: Jun 29, 2020
Clen 40 a day and do t worry about taper. Take it for like 10 weeks. She would be if it from 10-20 anavar as well but if she don`t want to take it then that`s that. My wife took cy3 and had really good results. Most women won`t take it cause of the thyroid med in it and women`s sensitivity to those drugs but she took and it worked way better then when she takes clen only.
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Jason123 User profile
Answered: Jun 30, 2020
Clen is worth a shot and is incredible usually the first time using it. 20 mcg 2x a day is a great start. My wife who is a figure pro would work up to 20 mcg 4x a day. Some do 2 weeks on 2 off, but after listening to Dave Palumbo on rxmuscle he believes you can run it straight for long periods (16 weeks or so) and continue to get good results. I`m doing that myself now and I`ve been losing 2-3 pounds a week for the last 12 weeks. Needless to say my diet, training, and cardio is 100% on point too.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 30, 2020
I`d suggest dialing in your caloric intake as well as keeping an appropriate macro profile leaning toward high protein, lower carb, within caloric limits. Clen, anavar, etc is not the magic bullet because the calories burned can be made up by a small unnoticeable influx of calories like eating an extra brownie. T3 if used safe can be ok at say 25mcg daily but not to exceed 40mcg or so for a female but after a month or so you must stop, generally no pct required, or if pct is needed the thyroid always bounces back up. But in the ending it will be your diet. Only pros looking for the slightest edge will use these compounds after they exhausted all options.
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Hi there! So I am female looking to cut the last bit of fat down that I have. I`ve been dieting and working out and I just can`t lose the last bit of fat I have. I weigh 123 lbs and I`m 31 (trying to give y`all as much info as needed)I`ve been researching for a few months and I`ve found that apparently alot of bikini models take anavar and clen. I know clen is dangerous, but what I`ve been reading is if a small dose is taken, it not as dangerous? Anyways, does anyone have any recommendations for a female who is looking for that bikini model physic Even have a little bit more muscle. Any recommendations? I really appreciate any advise I can get.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2020
Clen should work just fine I would split that pill in half so approx 20mcg per day 2 weeks on. If you want to add in anavar I believe the best dosage for a female would be 10mg per day but I would do more research amd maybe start at 5mg per day along side your hard training and diet it should help you get that extra few pounds with put starving. Drink lots of water on clen
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xman User profile
Answered: May 09, 2020
anavar and clen are excellent choices for females..the anavar is milder and works great, as for the clen, you may want to start with 5mcg or 10mcg and tailor it as you go..they definitely help rid the fat and lean you out..
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2020
Test cyp gram a week, dbol and tren good to go…. just kidding go with anavar. Clean can be hard on the liver, but that can be thrown in as well.
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jason User profile
Answered: May 09, 2020
My wife was a figure pro and her stack was as follows. 10 mg anavar, worked up to a max of 80 mcg Clen a day, worked up to a max of 50 mg t3 a day, 20 mg novladex a day. Needless to say diet is key and if you aren`t already doing it you may need to go keto to drop the last bit of fat.
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POOKIE User profile
Answered: May 09, 2020
Do not recommend starting with 20 mcgs a day if you never tried clen before. If you order dragon, cut into quarters and do your best to cut 2 of the 4 “quarters” into eighths. You want a few 5 mcg doses for the method I`m about to explain which will save you a ton of tabs AND will not put your health in danger since high doses of clen could jack you up permanently! Ok…here with go…your weekly protocol will be 4 days ON and 3 days OFF…rinse, repeat. The 3 days off will reset you.– your body builds tolerance, hence the fella`s wife above had to build up a dose to 80 mcgs for it to keep working…no Bueno! Week 1 (mon – thur) 5/5/10/10 then 3 days off. Week 2 (up the dose if you didn`t feel jittery or feel any difference) 10/10/10/10/3 days off. Week 3 (up if don`t feel anything) 10/10/15/15/3 off. Week 4 (up again etc) 15/15/15/15/3 off. Keep going up until you find your dose that you “feel something” and you will know what I`m talking about when it happens. Once you find it, DO NOT increase….keep the same dose. Also another rule….any dose 30 mcgs or more daily split it!! 15 am,15 PM, if 35 daily 20 am, 15 PM, and so on. Don`t take more than 25 mcgs at once…split and go. Keep it safe. Crap I wrote a lot….here is Var`s protocol. start with 2.5 mg daily first week (quarter 10 mg tab), 5 mg second and stay there for few weeks to access impact on anabolic effects and go up to 7.5. Females do not need a lot of anavar for max effects. You can work up to 10 mgs but should not need anymore. 10 mgs for a female is about the same support as 50 for a male…give or take. No need to take male doses. Good luck
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Shadow43 User profile
Answered: May 09, 2020
Hi,Follistatin peptide may be your answer. It doesnt get much attention, but it is very effective and relatively safe. When you work out, your body produces follistatin which suppresses myostatin. When myostatin is high, your muscles dont rebuild themselves. Follistatin also blocks activins, compounds that can slow down your metabolism and harm your reproductive system when they get too high. By blocking activins with follistatin, you can enhance your fertility and increase fat burning. It was discovered that Belgium blue bulls had a gene mutation that decreased mysostain levels. Because of this, Belgium blue bulls have a rippling muscular body that is almost cartoon like. In conclusion, follistatin suppresses myostatin, which will cause rapid muscle gain and increase fat burning.
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Traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: May 10, 2020
Anavar is the answer to your question, Anavar is the best AAS for females, it will give u steady gains with no sides, start with 10mg/day and go from there, if your diet is good and u work hard at the gym u will have good results.
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Hey guys! What is the daily intake of Clen? And is ramping up recommend
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Clen User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 29, 2020
Clen is very dangerous. Stick to proviron or masteron
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Billy User profile
Answered: Mar 29, 2020
What else are you taking? What are you`re goals and fitness level? Not enough info provided to give a good enough answer but you should reconsider Clen. It`s dangerous if not taken properly. Way better stuff to take to lose fat. Try Some Test, winny and HGH. Great results
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 29, 2020
Start with 20mcgs per day in the am, then increase in 20mcg every 3-5 days until you run into side effects. 2 weeks max
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 29, 2020
With clen, you always start at a lower dose and work your way up. If you`ve never taken it before, you can likely get a lot out of just 40mcg. For those with experience with it sometimes work there way up to 80-120mcg. I won`t go over 120mcg. That`s more than enough to burn fat without the risk of hurting your heart more.
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Vkpl511 User profile
Answered: Mar 29, 2020
Different protocols are out there. 2 wks on/2 off seems to be common to allow receptors to reset. Start at 20mcg per day and ramp up another 20mcg after a few days. Everybody reacts differently to it.
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 29, 2020
U can start with 40mg/day in morning then increase slowly if needed, maybe u want to try 20 mg pills so u can adjust your dose more easy.
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Hey guys. Has anyone on here taken a random drug test at work while using the Dragon Pharma Clenbuterol? If so what were the results? Thanks.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 26, 2020
Military here and have had random UA on various things. It depends on what they are testing for, but if its your normal run of the mill recreational screen, you should be fine. It all depends what they are screening for man. Hard to give a definitive answer without knowing which drug screen. That said….the vast majority are looking fir meth, weed, etc.
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RecoveryProject User profile
Answered: Mar 26, 2020
Drug screens for places of employment typically test for illicit street drugs like THC, cocaine ect. Testing for a variety of drugs is very expensive and therefore only a few are done. Clen would not be done on your normal employment drug screen.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 26, 2020
Unless it`s a performing enhanced drug test your going to be fine. It doesnt show up on a drug test as a false positive for meth or anything like that basic 5 panel drug test your fine
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JMann User profile
Answered: Mar 26, 2020
Well seeing that clen is not a steroid, just a bronchodilator. Most places of business other than law inforcement, military ect, do not test for anabolic steroids. So I doubt you will pop for anything.
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nickname_88 User profile
Answered: Mar 26, 2020
Whenever I read someone asking about, a random drug test and thoughts on whether or not they will be ok…. the answer is yes because you are obviously just stating, random drug test… if it were that important, you would know…as in first military, police, government etc etc because they are the only type that would maybe just maybe look for anything other than just your regular recreational drugs.. most if not all randoms are just your run of the mill rec drugs so no they will not spend the money of testing for test or other aas… it cost too much money.. I have had many randoms since I have a cdl and never have I worried or had any issues at all.. so you`re fine with any compound..
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ShreddedFreak User profile
Answered: Mar 26, 2020
Most drug tests are not designed for steroid or steroid like drugs! You should be totally fine!
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has anyone product been delayed due to this coronavirus and receiving Chinese products using this brand dragon pharma? i would like to order from dragon pharma again but I`m worried about how this virus has affected the shipments from china to the Usa. from DEA being more precautious over overseas packages, possibly confiscating them before delivered, etc…
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Barry Gibson User profile
Answered: Mar 14, 2020
I have actually read a lot of packages have been delayed. However, naps guarantees arrival or they`ll reship as they always do, therefore I`d not worry!
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Matty User profile
Answered: Mar 14, 2020
I don`t think the virus affects packages currently. If you know that packages are affected, do you have a source?
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Mar 14, 2020
Dragon comes fro Singapore or sometimes other locations, not China mainland. Shipping is delayed for some reason. I have a pack from Ukraine stalled for about 3 weeks now. Just be prepared to wait longer than usual regardless of what you order. Some indian pharma stuff that shipped from Singapore got here real quick actually.
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
Answered: Mar 14, 2020
From all the forums I`ve been reading every one is starting to receive their items so just be patient
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Mar 14, 2020
Everything is affected, maybe not the packages being shipped but the time frame is….
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 15, 2020
Hey Gio, no, I order dragon and no delays. Product estimates 21 days to delivery. Thanks for the question
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Is this stuff shipping from China?
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ThePony User profile
Answered: Mar 04, 2020
Nothing on here ships from China. It`s all from Eastern Europe. However some did ship from mylasia the other day.
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john User profile
Answered: Mar 04, 2020
No but the majority of the raws come from China and are manufactured one stark Europe and shipped from there.
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Mike p User profile
Answered: Mar 04, 2020
No, you can expect nearly all stuff to come from Ukraine. For the exception of a few pharmaceutical drugs.
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Sean john User profile
Answered: Mar 04, 2020
No, even Chinese brands are not coming from China. Only the raws are sourced there.
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Hunt User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 04, 2020
Dragon is made in china, so initially yes but then it depends which warehouse outside of china your pack gets shipped from. Shipments come from different countries, sometimes singapore and other times ukraine and etc…
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MikeM User profile
Answered: Mar 04, 2020
It`s been a while since I`ve ordered from dragon but I believe last time I did it came from Thailand or Singapore. I recently ordered clen from magnum which I know came from Singapore and came no problem less than 3 weeks, I think the price was better too. Alpha also comes from Singapore just ordered a lot from them no problem, under 3 weeks. I ordered some other meds which came from India and that`s actually held up in NY customs right now, fingers crossed it clears soon. I`ve never purchased from Europe so can`t say.
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Hi. I am looking for a good clen. But not many comapnies seem to have it these days. Which brand having Clen in their assortment and available at the moment would you recommend? Thanks in advance.
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Michael Vasquez User profile
Answered: Feb 18, 2020
Alot of the companies on naps seem to be out of stock on clen, but Rus bio is in stock and has the highest chance of getting to you the quickest since it`s in Europe. In my experience they ship in 2 weeks at the most. Any company on naps is legit so I wouldn`t worry to much on brand here.
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Frank User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 18, 2020
Try alpha pharma. Their stuff has always been amazing. Rus bio had always been to notch too
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Taylor User profile
Answered: Feb 18, 2020
With not much left in stock out of the manufacturers available I`d go with either Rus-Bio or Hilma. That`s my opinion. Or if not in a rush just wait for restock and get Geneza Pharmaceuticals or Dragon Pharma. Anything Napsgear sells is 99% of the time top notch legit unless its something they`re unaware of.
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John User profile
Answered: Feb 18, 2020
Tough to get right now but Alpha Pharma seems to be popular. I`ve had success ordering from them in January . Aaster is also popular bc of shopping time and quality
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Feb 18, 2020
I just looked and Alpha, Maxterme, and Hima all have clen in stock. Any of those 3 would be good. There were a couple others as well.
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Feb 18, 2020
I would use hilma right now. They have quality products and are shipping rather fast. Best of luck mate.
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I can`t seem to answer any of the questions that were reply`s to my original post, so let me clarify.I did not purchase these from Naps, as I stated in the very first sentence of my original post. I am trying to protect Naps from selling what I have found to be a bunk product. In doing what I thought was due diligence, Naps was one of the places I read the reviews from, and really thought the product was legit. I can only state that what I got was in no way legitimate Clen. Lab testing has proven that. I am trying now to find out how to upload a copy of the report, which has a pic of the tabs. I have no reason nor desire to fault Naps for anything, but felt it necessary to help protect someone else from wasting their bitcoin.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
You should open a ticket with napshelp and ask them if they want a copy of your test. They may want it or they may want to run their own to confirm. But Napshelp should be able to assist
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
If you bought dragon clen from some other site and believe it is not clen then it`s not real dragon. Dragon has always been legit. You can go to the dragon pharma website and put the code in to see if the supplier you got it from is legit and product. There are alot of fake dragons and other s from fake sites I have had clen from dragon from naps it`s good to go
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JB205 User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
I`ve gotten bunk gear that claimed to be dragon pharma Dbol from another source and it looked identical to actual dragon Dbol. It`s not that hard to counterfeit gear and make it look legit. I`ve gotten dragon pharma Dbol on Naps and guarantee it`s legit. This is one reason that I`ve used only Naps over the last several years with every order successful delivery.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
You cannot upload pics in the Q&A section unfortunately. DP Clen being faked from another website you purchased from doesn`t mean Dragons not legit. It means the source you bought your clen from faked it. I`ve had Dragon Clen purchased off Naps and I received the legit results clen delivers. It`s worth nothing not to buy from bad sources but pretty much everyone here posting is because they buy from Naps.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Thousands of people purchase dragon products and find them to be legit, but somehow you are the only one? Check out anaboliclab dc for lab tests confirming potency.
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Barry Gibson User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Give naps a legitimate test result, did u buy from another site?? Make sure it was real first in case, sorry I`m not sure if u bought from elsewhere.
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I bought this product from another supplier and after having it tested, found it to be bunk. There is no clen in the product, only an herbal supplement. I`ve done Clen in the distant past, and am well aware of the sides it gives. I had no shakes, no sweats, no heart rate increase (excet what teh elliptical and dumb bells cause) and was still hungry. How can I get Naps to test this so that others will not waste their money on it?
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Tjp User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
That`s the risk when buying this stuff you never know what your getting. But naps has a pretty good record of good stuff.
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
Write a review for the product I only get what has been pablo tested.
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Rambo1213 User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
That is unfortunate and the first time I ever heard of any product on Naps being called bunk. I would advise you to contact Naps LIVE customer care department and I`m 100% sure they will take care of your issue. Hope this Helps & good Luck!
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Bunk gear User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
When you say supplier what do you mean. A different site? A different lab? Please clarify.
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Taylor User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
That`s a tough pill to swallow…(see what I did there) write a review or make the purchase from Naps and have it tested, send them the results. Or open up a ticket and touch base with then rather then dragging them through the mud maybe give them the heads up privately. You have options depending on which route you want to go
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Pookie User profile
Answered: Feb 16, 2020
You can open a ticket with NAPS but doubt they would just because we asked. I`d say stick with a reputable brand and go with it.
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Can Winstrol and Clen be taken together? If so what were the effects good and bad?
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Adam22 User profile
Answered: Oct 18, 2019
I wouldnt advise taking two orals at the same time. Even with liver protection its still bad. If anything id use the Clenbuterol first and then towards the end of the cycle run the winstrol for the last 4 weeks. Also make sure you drink tons of water, winstrol makes you dehydrated.
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nickname_518 User profile
Answered: Oct 18, 2019
like Adam said, I wouldn`t run both and think it`s a very bad idea. They both will dehydrate you and at the very least, you`d get severe muscle cramps even if drinking tons of water and taking magnesium. Clenbuterol is nothing to play around with and it puts a lot of stress on your heart. Between the excess stress on your heart and the damage you could potentially do to your liver if running both at the same time, I would say stay away from using both simultaneously and run them like Adam said. Use the clen first, then when your on cycle use the winstrol for the last 4 weeks.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Oct 18, 2019
Clen is not a steroid but is a bronchodilator. Has more strain on the heart than the liver. You can run them both. Some can`t handle the clen shakes or feeling it brings. It does raise your resting heart rate therefore the hr will be higher in additional exercise. So this can be a problem with some that have preexisting heart problems. I like to run clen for 2 weeks starting with 20mcgs a day and going to a max of 100mcg for 1 day then back down. I taper up and back down in those 2 weeks. I will then take 2 weeks off then back on. I do this starting 5 weeks from my comp so the last week I can get a normal heart rate. You can run them both and many do for pre-competition prep. Good luck
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 18, 2019
Anything can be taken together, but it really isn`t recommended. As stated above, Clen puts a ton of strain on your heart, hardens your arteries over time…winny is very liver toxic…Personally not a fan of winny, has too many sides that outweigh the benefits IMO. It`s your call if you want to run this….you can get great results with any SUPPLEMENT, but this does not replace your nutrition and training. Good luck
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BABA User profile
Answered: Oct 18, 2019
They`re completely different stuff. You could totally take both. I have and many other before me with good results.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 19, 2019
Yes they can be takin together great results on a calorie deficit with cardio the main thing is water becomes very important. Clen even at low dosages can cramp you up like no other. I mean in your hands legs back so go easy on the clen an drink plenty if water. Remember cken only probably burns an extra 300 calories a day so if your not counting calories it`s a waste and unhealthy as it is unnecessary winstrol drys you out anyways so just be carful
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What`s up guys, I had a question that I couldn`t find on the net. I`m recovering from a broken bone. It`s been about 6 weeks. Does clen effect both growth or bones at all?
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nicky User profile
Answered: Sep 07, 2019
I’ve taken clen a few times and have done a good amount of research on it and I don’t believe I ever read anything about it stopping the healing process. That being said, depending on how severe your break is and how old you are and wether or not you’d like some help with it, hgh is very good at healing bones/growth
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N88 User profile
Answered: Sep 07, 2019
Clen doesn`t enhance or worsen bone density or bone strength. There are many other compounds that do but clen does not.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Sep 07, 2019
I have never heard of clen being an issue on bone repair. I looked up online as well and dont see any issues to use it after a break.
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Sep 07, 2019
Hey bud. Like others have said. It does not. Good luck
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Bbbd User profile
Answered: Sep 07, 2019
You can try hgh if you want some kind of effect, clen would not help. Good luck
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Scott User profile
Answered: Sep 07, 2019
Clen won’t do anything to your bones. It’ll make you sweat. If looking for bone assistance, GH will help.
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What does everyone do to combat the muscle cramps while using clen?
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
Answered: Aug 24, 2019
Most common cause of cramp is dehydration. Drink at least a gallon of water a day. If you still get cramps, take potassium and magnesium pills and 2-4 grams of Taurine a day.
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Rich furlow User profile
Answered: Aug 24, 2019
Winstrol makes you very dehydrated. Drink alot of water atleast 10-12 cups per day
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Joe Hodgins User profile
Answered: Aug 24, 2019
Definitely lots of water and take taurine as well
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Nelson User profile
Answered: Aug 24, 2019
I usually try to get a gallon of water per day down while using Clen. You will drop weight quick and lean out. Many bodybuilders up their dose of bananas or use potassium supplements to counter this. … The risk of this happening apparently increases if you supplement with taurine while using Clen
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Aug 24, 2019
Drink plenty of water at a gallon minimum but no need for two…eat a banana or two to replace potassium but dont overdo the calories or take a potassium supplement.
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Ryan User profile
Answered: Aug 24, 2019
Stay hydrated,take fish oil, and make sure your diet is good
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Hey guys, I just ordered some clen to assist with my cutting phase. I`ve never touched the stuff before so I have a few questions. A few blokes on my rugby team use it every now and then, when I asked them about proper dosage they recommended 20mg Monday, 30mg Tuesday, 40mg Wednesday and 50mg Thursday. Then take Friday and the weekend off and repeat that until you reach your desired physique. They preach this method as they have been using on and off for years and haven`t built up a tolerance. Has anyone else used this dosage before? I know anything over 80mg can be very damaging to the heart and that is the last thing I want as I have basic training 6 months from now and I dont want to end up in the ER. So any advice is highly appreciated
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N88 User profile
Answered: Aug 15, 2019
Your buddies are right as far as the cycling 4 days on and 3 days off method. I would try a lower dose 4 days in row the first week like 20 mcgs four days in a row, up the dose to 30 mcg four days in a row the second week and so on until you find your magic dose (you`ll know and feel it when you get to the right dose) then stick with it. There is technically no need to up the dose every 24 hours since it takes your body a week straight of the same dose to build tolerance. But if you reset it with the 3 days off you start over on Monday at the original, effective dose like it`s ground hog day. My max is 35 mcgs x 4 with three days off. Old method of upping every week after week i wasted a ton of clen by going up to 100 mcgs….bad idea…i know better now.
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omeed haji User profile
Answered: Aug 15, 2019
Hi RandomClenbuterol has a half-life of about 24 hours and there are multiple ways to incorporate it into your fat loss program or cutting cycle.The most popular method is to cycle it for two weeks and then take two weeks off, because the fat burning effects of clen can last for up to 5 weeks even after the stimulatory effects start to fade.So, while you may not burn fat in the off cycle, it will still give you that slight edge if you stick to a healthy diet.Some users continue to use Clen until their body fat goals are met.But for this to be effective, you’d have to keep increasing the dose every two weeks or so because your body will adapt to Clen a lot sooner than you imagine. And at higher doses, the risk to reward ratio starts to tilt towards risk more than reward.Irrespective of which method you employ, start with a low dose of 40mcg of Clen per day and then hold it for a couple of weeks. This will allow you to understand some of the effects of the drug, including the stimulatory effects.You can then choose to increase the dose or continue at the same dose depending on how your body reacts to it. Good luck bro
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BigRich User profile
Answered: Aug 15, 2019
Hey there Bloke,Rich from NYC here. So there are 2 main reasons why I utilize Clen for over 10 years, and they are very basic and have incredible scientific research to back it all up. I will also discuss how to properly take it, especially for sports. There are two reasons why I utilize Clen:1) To get incredibly shredded and form unique striations within the muscle which gives you the Athletic Greek god look.2) As a bridge between ANY anabolic cycle.So quite simply, Clen is a MYOSTATIN inhibitor. Myostatin is an naturally made anti-growth factor that signals our DNA to halt any unadulterated muscle from being produced. Imagine if we could get big without limitations? The monsters that would roam this earth! So Clen acts as a MILD Myostatin inhibitor allowing muscle growth to a superior level all the while burning Fat cells to a crisp. You WILL feel stronger, faster and more energetic. Best of all you will love what you see in front of the mirror. Clen added to your PCT will help loss of strength, energy levels due to low T, and shred your gains while you recover. Keep in mind I`m 44 years old and I am shredded. My approach is very old school, “Arnold Schwarzenegger” type of usage. So to put it simply this is the dosage schedule:2 Weeks on cycle and 1 Week off cycle, with 2 days ON with 1 day OFF within those two weeks that you are on cycle. This will ensure zero tolerance to Clen, but worst of all the reversal of the function of Clen, or gaining fat cells as opposed to burning them. That may happen very quick. 4 days in a row I would not risk.As far as dosage, try this:Get your hands on 40mcg Clen. To be taken on an empty stomach and CHEWED. As you chew, DO NOT SWALLOW, but rather hold the debris under the tongue for ONE minute to penetrate the blood faster, then swallow. Day one and two take HALF (1/2) a pill 20mcg “Chewed.” Day three off. Day four and five take one whole pill 40mcg “Chewed.” Day six OFF. Day seven and eight take one and a half (1-1/2) pills 60mcg “Chewed.” Day nine OFF. Day ten and eleven you may choose to take 2 pills 80mcgs, but only if you DO NOT feel anxiety, very BAD jitters, or basically NOT comfortable. you may stay at the 60mcg dosage for the remainder of the time within those 2 weeks, or if you can comfortably tolerate it go up to 80mcg. but no more than that. You can do this for six months then one month completely off and start all over. Works amazing for the female athlete as well, just start at a lower dose such as 10mcg and build up from there. Good luck and Cheers!Rich
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Aug 15, 2019
I`ve only ever used clen for two weeks on and a week or two off. I start at 40mcg and try never to increase it higher than 120mcg. There are other cycling methods but I`ve not tried those.
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Mtrain User profile
Answered: Aug 15, 2019
BigRich gave a very good response on the benefits of clen and a good way to dose/cycle it. Make sure to stay hydrated 😉 you will feel quite warm lol
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Aug 15, 2019
Hey bud. BigRich killed it! If new to cycles start off with 40mcg. This should give you more than enough boost/energy to do what you want. Definitely sublingual it by putting it under your tongue for 2 minutes then swallow. Make sure your mouth is moist before doing that. Good luck
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So I know this question might sound dumb, kinda obvious but the exp date is 1/20..but again summer isn’t till 2020 so would this product be as effective if it’s expired? I’m asking b/c I’ve heard yes and no’s
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ViktorN User profile
Answered: Jul 13, 2019
I have use gear that are 2 years old. It is perfectly fine. If you keep them in a cool dark place it will last for at least 2 years. Being it expire in Jan 2020 and summer starts in June it will only be expire 6 months. You are good my friend!
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Jackson User profile
Answered: Jul 13, 2019
Im sure youll be fine but obviously if you can help it you would want to avoid expired gear at all costs just to be safe.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: Jul 13, 2019
In terms of safety, as long as you stored it in a cool and dry place then that`s taken care of. In terms of potency, it`s probably still at 100% and will only decrease a few percentages over the next 5 years. You`re good to go.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 13, 2019
It’s widely agreed and understood that oil based and oral steroids last well beyond the expiration date, just keep it in a cool dark place.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 13, 2019
its not like its going to loose all the potency after the exact expiration date. Its just that they start degrading and loosing potency slowly after exp date.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 13, 2019
6 months past expiry date for a pressed powder (pill) isn`t that big of a deal at all. I`d go up to 1 year after expiry, and I`ve done it before, with zero loss of potency. For these stuff it doesn`t really matter, it matters more for peptides and substances in liquid.
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Should I be taking clen alone or is it ok to take with test? I was planning on using clen to get lean after a 7 week dbol cycle. Could I run this for 2 weeks after taking 50mg of dbol per day? Also, how safe is clen? Do many people have really bad side effects? I have heard mix reviews.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 07, 2019
You can….but, I wouldn`t say clen is “safe”. Really will put a strain on your heart. With that being said, if you use it so many people are going to tell you different ways to use it, as your tolerance will develop rather quickly. Why not just eat properly?? Otherwise prepare to feel like you`re crawling out of your skin (I personally hate it). Good luck!
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48yr Old Newbie User profile
Answered: Jul 07, 2019
Depends on your health. When I was younger (18-22yrs) I could use it without much of a concern but it did jack my heart way more than even caffeine did. Im now (48yrs) have to watch my blood pressure and currently take meds to keep it in check. If you have had a check up recently and have a 100% good bill of health with no heart disease in the family Id say give it a whirl, anything less then that I would be cautious. HGH and 500 Sustanon is enough for a great boost for weight loss and natural feel.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: Jul 07, 2019
Clen is really for people who are prepping for a contest. Of course, anyone can use it, but for the casual user Albuterol is a much safer choice. It can enhance your metabolism, support your cardio sessions, and can be run for longer without the heart valve risk that Clem presents.
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SteveC User profile
Answered: Jul 07, 2019
Clen can be extremely dangerous for your heart, especially if you are not experienced with these kinds of substances. I`m assuming you are not very experienced if you did a dbol only cycle. I would say that instead of taking clen (which is really something that, in my opinion, should be saved for people that are doing show prep) that you clean up your diet and do a cutting cycle for your next.cycle.
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
Answered: Jul 07, 2019
Based on your information I`d stay clear. Clean doesn`t burn that much calories. It only shines if your extremely lean in the first place. You can run it with test.
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Maison Jardin User profile
Answered: Jul 07, 2019
It is advised that you need to be at least 15% body fat or lower before running such a cycle. It`s also a good idea to have Taurine on hand since clen depletes it. This cycle is followed by 2 weeks of NO clen at all. … By doing 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, your body won`t get used to the effects.
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will it cause acne? I already got really bad acne from the first cycle (probably the last one ,Sust 250, Deca 500). Will the clen improve my skin ance?
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nickname_265 User profile
Answered: May 26, 2019
Clen increases your metabolism so you burn more fat, its not a skin care product. Your acne is more likely caused by Susta250, from converting to dht making skin oily. You also have to be careful with Clen, it can cause heart damage. You have to know what you are doing if you are using this compound.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: May 26, 2019
Clen is a harsh drug and if anything will make your acne worse. This shit makes a lot of people sweat and that`s not helping acne. Clen is one of those drugs that people this is a miracle but really delivers mediocre results, along with horrible health implications. Shit is rough on the heart. I don`t recommend it .
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: May 26, 2019
It definitely won’t help acne this won’t have really any interaction with helping acne if anything the thermogenesis caused by clen will make it worse from the increases sweat if you don’t clean yourself properly
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Micheal Ervin User profile
Answered: May 26, 2019
No it won’t cause acne, it will just cause heart palpitations, be careful with clen and don’t overdue it
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nickname_963 User profile
Answered: May 26, 2019
Yes; especially when stacked with other steroids. Clem has anabolic effects that lead sebaceous glands present within the skin for secreting more than accepted levels of oil. Just make sure the skin is clean at all times. Get a hold of products that are water-based or non-comedogenic. Products like these keep the clogs free from getting clogged.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: May 26, 2019
No, clen is not a steroid and you will not have the side effects associated with anabolics. It comes with its own set of side effects however.
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So I’m thinking of taking clen but don’t know how to start it says 2 weeks on 2 weeks off do I take a pill every day or every other day ?
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Donna Evans User profile
Answered: May 05, 2019
ssuming that 20mg tablets are used in all examples in this profile. A peak fat burning dose for an individual is normally in the range of 120 – 160mcg daily. However, nobody would just instantaneously start at this dose for safety reasons stated above. Instead, 20 – 40mcg would be administered on day one, and an additional 20mcg would be added every third day. There are individuals who possess lower sensitivities to Clenbuterol (and to most stimulants), and these individuals may be able to increase their dose faster and in greater amounts (i. e. every other day instead of every three days as listed). The opposite of this condition is also true for those with hypersensitivity to Clenbuterol and related stimulants, where the slow ramp-up dosing scheme may require a slower less frequent increase of Clenbuterol dosage. Once again, peak Clenbuterol dosages for fat loss should eventually land in the range of 120 – 160mcg daily, depending on individual tolerance and sensitivity to stimulants and Clenbuterol. An individual should never exceed 160mcg daily due to increased health risk.
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Massgains User profile
Answered: May 05, 2019
The proper dose your looking for is in the range of 120 to 160mcg however you can’t just start with that high of a dose your body won’t be able to handle it. you have to start with 20 MCG‘s and work your way up to the 120 and 160 range add 20 MCG‘s every day for example day 1 20mbgs day 2 40mcgs day 3 60mcgs all the way up to 120 if you feel like you can do more go to 160 then pyramid back down. I would also take a week or two off In between your clen cycles.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: May 05, 2019
I did 40mcg (20mcg twice a day) for a few days then when I felt like I was getting used to it I then started breakfast with 40mcg and another 20mcg for lunch. Then just kept adding 20mcg until I reached 120-140mcg a day. I never took past 4-5pm so I could sleep and never took over 40mcg at once. When I got above 100mcg a day I started noticing chest discomfort and even wondered if it was chest pain so didn’t like going too high (ie. 160). Just remember to split your dose throughout the day. Also you can do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off but I preferred doing a month on then 2 weeks off. That month gave me a long stretch to slowly taper up the dose rather than going from 20 to 140 over a few days. Just listen to your body with this one but the negative cardiac effects are very real and many pros don’t use anymore. T3 is safer but if you are dead set on using it I would throw in T3 to see dramatic results. T3 can be taken long term with a higher safety profile than clen. Remember to eat right or implement fasting or else you won’t get any results from it. Trust me
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: May 05, 2019
You`ve received responses with a couple different recommended ranges but the best approach is starting at a low dose and only use as much as you need. First off, you do not need to take 2 weeks off. Clen works better the longer it`s in your system. I`ve always started at 40mcg and increased to 80mcg and then 120mcg. To keep health high, I`ve read it`s not the best idea to go above 120mcg and that`s always been my top point and its treated me well. It`s a high enough dose to get the cosmetic benefits and metabolic benefits to cut me up. Diet is super important and must be dialed in. If you run clen too long at higher doses, you will look stringy and have a difficult time filling out. So keep a close eye on the mirror and if/when you look super flat and stringy, pull back on your dosing. Clen is amazing at cutting you up with a good diet. .. .. enjoy the ride!
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: May 05, 2019
Users generally tailor their dosage and cycling of this product based on personal sensitivity to its benefits and side effects. To accomplish this, one often begins a cycle by taking 1-2 20 mg tablets/day, and gradually increasing the dosage every 3rd day by . 5-1 tablet, until a desired dosage range is established. At peak therapy, some users can tolerate as many as 6-8 tablets/day (120-160 mcg).
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nickname_963 User profile
Answered: May 05, 2019
Of the possible methods the two most common and effective will be 2 weeks on/2 weeks off and steady incremental use. For the 2 week on/2 week off method the Clenbuterol dosage will start low and increase very quickly the first two weeks ending with the maximum desired dose. Once the next two week period begins the dosing will begin with where it left off the last time and stay at this point through the total duration of use. For steady incremental use our Clenbuterol dosage will begin low and increase in 20mcg increments; normally every 2-3 weeks. For this method the maximum dose will not be reached until the end of the diet, specifically the final 2-3 weeks.
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I plan on running this along with 2 shots a week of test 250E plus Dbol 50. Anyone think that`s a good cycle? Note I`m experienced on taking test for a while. I also have my Arimdex.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 08, 2019
No this is not a good cycle. Clen is almost always for cutting while dbol is used for bulking. Not only will clen burn fat, but it also gets rid of some water weight, while dbol does the opposite. I would ask you if you were bulking or cutting and based off of that use on or the other for your cycle. 500mg test plus dbol will lead to a lot of estrogenic activity so at least you have arimidex for that.
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Dave User profile
Answered: Mar 08, 2019
Now I would say the opposite of the previous reply, I would use it to keep the water retention down and still burn whatever fat you can while bulking that way you are gaining more of a lean muscle, either way just remember to cycle the Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 08, 2019
A cut always comes down to diet. You can diet on drugs that make you hold water (like your dbol, anadrol, deca ect..) and still burn plenty of fat. The only thing is that it effects the way you look while using the drugs. This is why we usually use some different dryer compounds closer to when we want to look our best. Make sure you taper up and down with the dose of the clen and KEEP ESTROGEN IN CHECK. Test and dbol is notorious for cranking up estrogen and causing issues. Right from cycle day one I would start at .5 mg arimedex every 2 days. After the dbol ends drop to every three days. This is just a guideline and you really need to get bloods and look at E2 to know if your dose is correct.
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smalldres User profile
Answered: Mar 08, 2019
I would use Clenbuterol if you are planning to cut, remember being in a deficit of calories will be the primary way you will lose BF– clenbuterol will only aid in that and speed up the process by increasing your metabolic rate to a certain degree. Now if you are planning to take this product make sure you supplement with taurine and potassium to help with the shakes and cramping. Make sure to start off with a low dose 20mcg-40mcg and taper up 20mcg every 2-3 days to minimize side effects and see where your tolerance is at. I wouldn`t go above 120mcg-140mcg per day
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 08, 2019
This would be an odd combination, as Dbol is used when you want to bulk and are not concerned about bloating, and Clen is used when you have plateaued on weight loss, and need help shaving off the last few percentage points of bodyfat (typically well below 10%). So your cycle sounds like it has an identify crisis… what exactly is your goal? Pin that down, and then you can choose compounds that support that cause. As others have mentioned, diet is the single greatest factor in this equation, no amount of gear will help you get to your goal if you are not eating right. This means quality calories and eating over or under maintenence depending on whether you want to bulk or cut.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 08, 2019
This would be an odd cycle to run together, like previously stated dbol is a bulking compound and clen which is not an anabolic is used for cutting, but if you were to split them like say run test/dbol for 6/8 weeks and bulk as much as you can and then throw another anabolic after with the clen like anavar or winstrol for another 6-8 weeks to help retain muscle and burn fat to get you lean
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How should I dose this?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 27, 2018
Start with just 20 mcg ed and work up to as high as 80 to 100 mcg ed
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T-dog User profile
Answered: Dec 28, 2018
Like Evan said, start with 20 ED and when symptoms disappear over a couple days increase to 40 ED split dose and so on for 2 weeks then stop. The max you should do is up to 100-120 but be careful because the higher you go the more jitters, rapid HR, and anxiety you get.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 28, 2018
I hope you don’t take 20mg of clen start of at 20mcg and dose up 20mcg every few days to a week once side effects subside. I personally run it for 4-6 weeks and never exceed 100mcg a day
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Will anything show up on a drug test?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 30, 2018
Clen has sometimes shown up as a stimulant on a UA, to be safe just stop taking 2 days before you need to take one.
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 11, 2018
It depends on how many panel of a urine test you`ll be subjected to. Or if it`s a blood test. Either way, just assume it will show up and clean out prior to the test.
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anonymous_4123
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
No you will not fail a drug test with clen. I am currently using clen and the and I passed a urinalysis drug screen and passed with flying colors
