How long does the HCG last after you have mixed it and put it in the fridge? I`ve seen some things on line saying it last about a month before it starts to lose its potentcy . Anyone know ?
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
It’d hard to say with a great deal of certainty, but most will tell you that at 30-60 days the solution will slowly start to lose potency
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Bswole User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
It should stay good for atleast 4 weeks or longer
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
About 2 months man, then it starts getting weaker, good luck friend and put in fridge right after mixing
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
Google is correct imagine that,now 6 guys will confirm the same exact thing Google told you
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Big Dogg User profile
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
About a month before it starts to degrade slowly. I wouldn`t worry too much unless you plan on long term storage. A couple months probably wont lose much potency.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 21, 2020
Hey Elo, I think it starts to degrade slowly after one month. Thanks for the question
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I`m currently in my 10th week of my cycle I`m running 750 mg Sustanon the week how do I use HCG in my PCT or do I start it before the cycle ends
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skitt User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
This is just my opinion and how I personally would run it… NOT on your PCT for one… you could start on your last pinning week at 250 to 500 iu 3x a week up to your Pct then stop and start your PCT…. good luck
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NPC LIFE User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
I agree with the first guy. The only thing I would change is, start your pct 2 weeks after your last shot of sust. FYI why only 10 weeks of sust. You should run 12-16 weeks. It don`t actually peek until around week 5-6. Good luck bro
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N88 User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
What Skitt said will work or your can start 3 days before last pin and run up to your PCT EOD at 750/750/750/750/500/500/500/500 for 8 total shots = 5000 IUs; then start PCT
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jimmy User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
pct should start around 14 days after your last injection. during that void is when they say to run hcg. Cg can be ran in cycle or in that void ^ but should conclude before pct begins.
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
There are a couple of ways the guys above have indicated. Though without getting your testosterone tested before to see what your test level was before cycle is a crap shoot. Once you run a pct have your testosterone tested again to see how you did. This is the ideal way but most guys just take a stab at pct. It can be trial and error if your going through a predetermined dose routine. Good luck
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Jasonz User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
Wait 2 weeks after your last shot of sustanon then 1000iu eod for 2 weeks then start your clomid, nolva for 4 weeks. Good luck.
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So I got a .3cc insulin syringe. If I added 1ml of bac water to 5000 iu vial How many units on the syringe would be 250 iu`s? The units on the syringe go 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30. Thank you.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
The answer to your question is 5. Pull the syringe to 5. 5 is 1/20th of 100 (full syringe/1mL/1cc) and 250 is 1/20th of 5000. Obviously your .3cc syringe does not hold 1mL and you will either need to fill it 3 times or get a 1cc (1mL) syringe. Thanks for the question.
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Tom User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
50 units would equal 250iu of hcg in your case. You have 5000iu divide that by 1000 and it gives you 5iu per 1 unit. 250iu / 5 = 50 units
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John Willis User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
With 1ml BAC water mixed with 5000 iu you would load your insulin syringe with 5. You could load it with 2ml BAC water and every number on the syringe would get you to 250 iu. Good luck man
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Sven User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
Every 10 on the insulin syringe represents 1/10 of a ml – you can use a reconstitution calculator on the internet if you need help, but essentially you need to “do the math”.
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timmy User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
250iu / 5 = 50 units. Pull pin back to 5 and there you go. Hope these answers answered your question! Best of luck!
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BABA User profile
Answered: Nov 27, 2019
0.05, aka 1/20th of 1 mL would be 250 iu if you were to do it that way. There are calculators online if you have a hard time figuring this out in the future.
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Can this HCG be used strictly for weight loss only for females? If so, what is the recommended dosage and how often?
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
You might have heard of the fad diet called hCG diet. There were even studies done on it. Long story short, no, it won`t augment your weight loss, it`s total bullshit. There is even a medical disclaimer on the pamphlet when you buy hCG.
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Jasonz User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Haha this diet was dispelled some time ago. People were losing weight while taking hcg however the real reason for the weight loss was the fact that they were only consuming 500 calories a day. Eat this many calories a day and you will lose weight regardless of hcg or not.
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K.D.T User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Imo this would not be an efficient product for weight loss hgh would be be a much more effective compound for weight loss
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Dr Scott User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Well, I suspect some of these guys have never done it. I am talking about a specific protocol, when combined with metcobalamin or cyanocobalamin. There are many studies that support this and I live in Florida and know literally dozens who swear by it. I mix a cc of cyano with my Hcg just because I`m going to run the hcg for whatever reason, they are both water soluble and can use a half cc. Now I have never used it for weight loss specifically but find the combination to give me more energy then HCg alone. I agree that the studies are weak and often conflicting and I am always very skeptical about weight loss gimics. This is one I kind of believe in. But I`m not saying the others are wrong. I just use it because well why not, and even if the results are in my head it doesn`t make them any less real but b12 is about 10$ a vial and considered very safe
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
I have never heard of HCG alone being used for weight loss. The best way to lose weight is to eat less and burn more calories. The molecular process for breaking down fat into water and air is catalyzed by moving more and eating less. There is a great TED talk about this that explains where fat goes when it is “lost.” It is mainly breathed out just FYI. Good question and thanks for it.
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Edwin User profile
Answered: Nov 15, 2019
HCG is an ineffective fad diet – the results come from the 800 kcals a day you get to eat while taking the HCG, lol.
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Thanks for all your help guys. I have one more question I am confused about. I have read for my cycle I should be at 1000iu for the first 5 days and then 500iu every day for 10 more days and then I need to start my pct. I am confused about how to calculate cc`s to iu. How many cc`s of mixed hcg 5000 w/ 5ml of bac water do I need for 1000iu in one shot?
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nickname_957 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
to calculate iu`s to cc is pretty simple. so 5000iu in 5ML would be 1000iu per CC. so if need 1000iu use 1CC if you need 500iu use .5 CC. if you need 200iu use .2CC. if you had 10ML of Bac water it would be 5000iu in 10ML. so 1CC would be 500iu 2cc would be 1000iu and so on
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Skuchie User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
If you used your own bac water and did in fact put 5cc`s (same as 5ml`s) into the 5000 Iu`s of powder, then each 1 CC on your 3cc syringe is 1,000 iu`s. So if you need 500iu`s, then you would use .5 CC. However, If you`re using an insulin syringe, they are usually 100 iu`s total, which is 1 CC. So 1,000 iu`s is a full insulin pin (100 units) and 500 iu`s would be 50 units on the insulin syringe. In most cases these products come with their own solution, but if you use this then you`ll need to do your own math because idk how much fluid they give. It`s usually only 1 CC, or 100units on an insulin syringe. So when you reconstitute 5000 iu`s of powder with 100 units (1CC) of liquid, then every 10 units on your insulin pin would be 500 iu`s. This method would make using a normal 3cc Syringe to difficult because the amount of fluid is too small, and you couldn`t dial in the proper dose.
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nickname_610 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
You should use hcg during your circle 250 iu twice week . When you finished your circle start pct chlomid and nolvadex.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Yuh 957 is correct, I do tend to stay away from the premixed products because I don`t know what kind of temp fluctuations it goes through during shipping, but who knows it might be fine, in truth I have never used the premixed powder so I will let someone who has speak more intelligently on the subject. The lypholyzed powder is much more stable and does not typically need refrige until it is reconstituted. It will then be whatever conc you make it as the others have said. Use an insulin, I prefer the 1/3 cc. Pinch a bit of belly fat and rotate sites. I have actually used hcg mixed with methcobolamin or cyancobolsmin b12 with very good results. This is prob for the more advanced guys good luck.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Go look on YouTube it`ll tell you everything you need to know about mixing and hard to get the correct ICUs
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VB92 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Nickname and skuchie nailed it. It`s all about the amount of solution you add, then just do the math. I would use an insulin syringe because it`s easier to dial in these small doses.
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Hello I have never used hcg for pct and have done a lot of research but can`t seem to find what size needle to use. I get a lot of different sizes. I have very low fat and wanted to know if I can use a 23g 1in needle for abdomen area? Thanks
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
Hey bud. You need regular 31G insulin needles pin Subq. You can buy them here in naps or other places like Amazon. Good luck.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
U need 31g insulin needles and inject subq, these are cheap check amazon or ebay man, good luck, also check for youtube videos
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ddc2025 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
A 23g syringe would not be the appropriate size. Use an insulin syringe…a 29 g would be fine. Hgh is administered via a subcutaneous injection.
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John juan User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
No HCG should be used with an insulin pin. 29 it 30 guage. It is water based not oil. HCG should be taken in cycle 250iu`s 2x a week. You can take HCG for the first week when you come off but that`s it. Pct should be Clomid and Nolvadex starting 2 weeks after your last pin if you were using a test E or Test c. 3 weeks if you were using Sustanon
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
No way 23g in the belly!!! Use an Insulin pin you can find very cheap online. Typically 30-31g and do Sub Q.
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Nov 14, 2019
You would be more comfortable with a 31g especially since you said you have low fat. You only need to just get under the skin not like when injecting AAS into muscle. Best of luck mate.
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im about ti end a 20 week cycle of test c and eq 500 mg of cyp and 600 of eq two weekly shots of half them amounts. should i start hcg 2 weeks after last pin ? what about clomid and nolva how much and how long of each. iknow this was a long cycle
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 03, 2019
For extended cycles like this you should be using hcg form the beginning or at least week 5-6 of the cycle to keep your htpa functioning without having to restart it completely. But since your near the end I would start immediately at 250iu Eod for the remainder of the cycle and then 500iu every 4-5 days after the cycle until you start clomid or nolva which should be 4-6 weeks starting 100/100/100/50/50/50 everyday for clomid or 40/40/40/20/20/20 everyday for nolvadex
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Nov 03, 2019
Hey bud. If I was you ill start now. You could have done it from cycle start but no worries. Good luck.
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Daniel Kostov User profile
Answered: Nov 03, 2019
what mike jones said he legit was more or less say the same as mine and if u crash your estrogen take 20mg dbol throughout the day u you wont have to low e sides 9loss of lindo
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skitt User profile
Answered: Nov 03, 2019
Honestly, when you get the chance do a lot of research on HCG… I`m not necessarlly saying people are wrong but with all the information on HCG I wouldn`t run it for a FULL cycle but thats just me,, Makes NO sense to put a compound in you that shuts you down then throw in another compound that tells your body to turn back on at the same time… there is a lot of info out there that preaches against this.. but people will do what they want which is fine.. but don;t take our word on everything, research it,, At least for the last 2 weeks of your cycle you can start out at 250 to 500 ius a week up to the day you start your PCT, stop the HCG and start a clomid an Nova at for 4 weeks at clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nova at 40/40/20/20
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Sven User profile
Answered: Nov 03, 2019
Just to add something, run the test a week longer than the EQ, equipoise has a longer ester and will hang around for three weeks.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Nov 03, 2019
Start HCG at the latest 3 days before last pin and run EOD 750/750/750/750/500/500/500/500. Then start nolva or clomid 14 days after at 40/40/20/20 or 100/100/50/50
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OK. So I may have screwed up, and I don`t know what the math is to draw 250iu`s. Sorry if I get some eye rolls here :). I have a 5000iu vile. Thinking I had to add 10 ml of bac water I pulled what I thought was 3 ml from my syringe of bac water (I went to the 3rd unit line). On these syringes (1) unit is 100iu of test. I filled the 5000 iu vile and now it is full and I can`t put anything more in. So I know or I think I did something wrong. Since I don`t have another HCG vile any suggestions on how much to draw to inject. Hopefully my description is adequate enough to paint a picture for what I did. And my insulin syringe is .3cc so hopefully I dont have to pin myself a thousand times. 🙂
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.50 caliber User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
you confused me !!!!!
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Kind of confusing here lol but your math is off. You should only need the 1ml of bac water that comes with the Powdered HCG. I would assume your HCG is completely diluted and at this point, probably unusable….Really don`t have any suggestions besides ordering another vial. Good luck
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Fit_mom User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
You may need to rethink the question. I think your saying you added 3ml of bac to 5000iu? Should have done more research before you did what you did. Good luck
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Very confusing. But you should have added 1mL to the 5,000iu and then you could have figured it out easier as each 10 units would be 500iu. If you added 3mL than you would need 30 units per 500iu. 15 units for 250iu.
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skitt User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I agree with the other comments here bro… Id scrap it and just order another vial of BAC water.. And while waiting to receive your product research on the web and you tube on how to mix,, You can find calculators information on mixing this stuff to desired dose… Good luck and happy cycling
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nickname_483 User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 02, 2019
To make it easy if you have a 5000iu vial at 5ml so you would get 1000iu/ml. In that case if you want 500iu just draw 0.5ml, if you want 1000iu draw 1ml and so on
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So lately my doc has been advising sublingual trochees for PCT. 500iu qod X30d. He said there is a reason for this, I think to circumvent the system. I guess he is not fond of prescribing inj HCG for off label use to men. Dunno, I wasn`t really listening because I can get HCG cheap and easily from NAPs and sites like it. I did try it because it was cheap and easy and it just made him happy. i was not impressed but in the interest of transparency, I never got my levels checked after. If I use it again I will, i understand that so please do not suggest I get levels done, I am aware. The question I have is that I have always learned that compounds with Molecular weight higher than 1,500 daltons cannot be absorbed through the mucosa anyhow (HCG is anywhere from 15,000-30,000 daltons). So my question is have any of you guys used the SL HCG? got testing? what was your experience or thoughts. Thanks again for well thought out or experienced answers, I`ve been in the game for a minute but I still get lots of good info from you guys and sites like this. I have learned to sort through the BS and enjoy learning and hearing other views.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I would honestly just stick with the inject hcg it`s cheap and very effective you don`t have to play trial and error. You know what it is you know the dose. I don`t fix things that are not broken
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I agree with drew hcg all the way
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
As far as I can remember from biochem the bucal membrane is much less permeable than the sublingual membrane because of the keratin levels. Sublingual has much less keratin if any at all. Also there are cholesterol esters that increase permeability in these cells that are otherwise not there which greatly enhance the permeability of different molecules. So as far as I remember it has less to do with the molecular weight and more to do with the type of molecule whether an esterified cholesterol a cholesterol etc. This is 2008 bachelor of science knowledge so take with appropriate grains of salt.
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Teddy User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I’m not sure why you would mess with a sublingual method when injecting is proven to work.
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nickname_556 User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
Pin subq, that way you know exactly how much you pinned but SL method you have no idea how much is absorbed and how much are getting into your system.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: Nov 01, 2019
I wouldn`t mess with SL. You just can`t get exact dosing with it. Plus bioavailability is much higher so yes stick with SubQ. What levels are you taking about getting?
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How do I achieve the 250iu per injection with a 3ml syringe? How much would that actually be?
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
Don’t use a 3mL syringe you want to use a 1mL (100iu) insulin syringe aka slim pin. That way it is easier to convert units. Once reconstituted it will be 5,000iu every 1mL which is 5,000/100units. So for every 1 unit it is 50iu. If you want 250iu than it will be a mere 5 units. That’s why I always get the 2,000iu HCG instead of larger doses because they expire in a month and I wouldn’t be able to use more than 2,000 in that amount of time plus it`s way easier to get the right dose. More liquid to work with. But yeah that’s the amount you will need and you want to go subcutaneous with an insulin syringe.
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Workinman User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
Add 10 ml bac water. Then every ml is 500 iu. So take .5ml for 250 iu.
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Johnny User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
Agree with LI beast. Get some insulin syringes. Very cheap on ETSY. Add 2ml of Bac water and 1 on the insulin pin would be 250ius. Hope that helps
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Mtrain User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
Lol. DEFINITELY don`t use a 3mL syringe lol. Get you a .5mL or 1mL insulin barrel and insulin needle. Choriomon 5000iu means that 1mL of bac water will give you 5000iu per 1cc (100 units). If your goal is 250iu doses, I find it easier to use 2mL bac water (2500iu per 100 units). From there, all you need is 10 units for 250iu. Enjoy mate
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
You are going to want to use an insulin syringe and based on mixing with 10ml of bacteriostatic water 350 iu is .5ml
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omeed haji User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
every ml is 500 iu. So take .5ml for 250 iu You are going to want to use an insulin syringe and based on mixing with 10ml of bacteriostatic water 350 iu is .5ml
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I just wanted some advice on how much to inject and how often. I just finished the intermediate cutting cycle. Thanks
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skitt User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
I`d do anywhere from 250iu to 500iu depending on the strength of your cycle… Meaning 250iu every 2 to 3 days which would be about 750iu a week or maybe 500iu twice a week for 1000iu a week leading up to your PCT then once you start your PCT stop HCG altogether
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Trill User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
750 iu eod for 3 cycles, 500 iu eod for 4 cycles 250 iu eod until you finish the vial. Inject it subq instead of Im… Hope you have nolva for after that, cheers.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
My Protocol is pretty much like Trill`s except i run 750 x 4 and looks like: 750/750/750/750/500/500/500/250/250 EOD. You should start this a day or two before the last pin then at day 15 start clomid or nolva
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
You are going to get different answers on this topic. There people who take up to 2000iu a week for three weeks after cycle.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
What`s worked best for me is 500iu EOD for 2 weeks prior to your last injection. Some circumstances might change your dosing depending on what your have used and length of cycle. Get your PCT ready for afterwards. Good luck
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 05, 2019
250-500 IU every 3-5 days for the last 4-6 weeks of your cycle. Notice that there is not 1 dosage nor 1 length, it`s a range, and differs depending on your individual self.
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Okay, so I just started a new cycle recently and I added hcg to my stack for the first time ever. I did my first injection today of hcg (subcutaneous) and I feel like garbage. It made me crazy tired, nauseous, and just overall feeling like shit. I`m also getting cold sweats, sweating a crazy amount while I`m in a store that is 68° F. Is this normal? I think I`m going to cut the HCG out of my stack. I only used 3 units, which is 150mcg.
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Kai User profile
Answered: Jul 27, 2019
If you believe hcg is causing those symptoms I would discontinue its use. I actually would need to know a bit more about your cycle and what you`re taking to be better help. Did you use the the sodium water that came with the hcg or Bac Water? Also what cycle did you start? Test Cyp, Test Orals, Var, Etc..????
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 27, 2019
It is not likely that the HCG is causing those symptoms. If anything, it could be an oil used in the HCG product you are using, but nothing inherent to HCG would cause those symptoms.
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Marcus User profile
Answered: Jul 27, 2019
First of all why people use hcg on cycle? Roids shut your balls down but you keep on pushing them to work. Keep them shut while in cycle make them work after cycle. Also, find some roid informative book. Hcg is not a thing to play with. You can shut yourself down permanently. Stop reading on forums and read an actual book about it.
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Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 27, 2019
It might be the other compounds that you are taking, I have been taking HCG while on cycle(500iu a week) and never had any issues with it.
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Wes User profile
Answered: Jul 27, 2019
Marcus is right. If adding HCG add it near the end of your cycle to help. But during the entire cycle makes no sense to me and if anything makes things worse.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jul 27, 2019
Totally agree…HCG on cycle gives ZERO muscle gaining advantage. It`ll keep your balls bigger but other than that nothing else. Use it to come off right before PCT. Also not sure why it`s making you feel bad…doesnt make any sense.
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Im going to use HCG and nolvadex for pct while on HCG do i need to take a aromatase inhibitor? Im running hcg for two weeks and the nolva for 4 weeks should i take aromatase inhibitor those first 2 weeks that im on HCG doesnt it aromatize? And when should i come off the aromatase inhibitor? As soon as i come off the HCG? Or run the AI a couple days after i come off HCG?
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2797 User profile
Answered: Jun 19, 2019
I would say you wouldn`t need AI because Nolva is an anti estrogen as well. The best way to utilize HCG is to take it on cycle until 1 week after your last pin then start Clomid for 4 weeks.
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N88 User profile
Answered: Jun 19, 2019
Not sure what your cycle looks like so I`m gonna do some guessing and assume your are atleast doing long ester test a long with other compounds. Normally if you run a high estrogenic cycle you wanna taper off of the AI`s AFTER your last pin. So you you were doing .5 Arimidex EOD, you would continue this after your last pin x 3 does then go .25 for three doses then .25 every third day for approx 14 days after the long ester pin. This prevents Estrogen rebound that some of us get. HCG can be run during the entire cycle or you can start it after the last pin, blasting for 14 days. Not gonna get into the 50 different protocols since i have no idea what your cycle looks like. Nolva (or clomid or both) starts 14 days after last pin for 4 weeks. 40/40/20/20 or 20 x 4.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 19, 2019
You will not need an AI during your PCT. Your PCT should start 2 weeks after your last injection. Continue taking your AI during that time but you don`t need to take it during your PCT. Your PCT will handle your normal hormone levels and estrogen.
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Sam User profile
Answered: Jun 19, 2019
The estrogen rebound is usually due to people having a long ester test still in their system and they stop taking AI and start taking HCG, basically a double whammy for estrogen rebound. Like people have mentioned just taper off the anti estrogen but keep in mind nolva itself has anti estrogenic effects by blocking the estrogen receptors so you might not need an AI. Nolva doses are 40mg for the first two weeks and 20mg for another 2 weeks, I prefer Clomid at 50/50/25/25 and I recommend you getting it for the next cycle.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 19, 2019
I`d rethink that. HCG is suppressive, using it during PCT would be counterproductive. Could you use it and still recover? Possibly. But that`s like sticking with a crank start Ford in exchange for my truck that I can start from my phone. If you didn`t use HCG on cycle I suppose you could blast it. Though, I`m admittedly not familiar with this method because I always have it included in the cycle. A little research will provide a blasting protocol you could use. Just stick with true, science backed clinical research before going all in on a method. I always tell people to not take what you`re told here or elsewhere as fact and to conduct your own research. After all, I might have not gone to medical school, or worse, could be a podiatrist… A good clue when doing research for how to use AAS and other related compounds is to look at forums and Q&A boards like Wikipedia. It`s a good place to start, but ultimately you`ll want to seek concrete facts before you bet your life on it. Another trick is to pay attention to the dates on posts reccomending use. While some things will likely not change, those that do could save you a headache by knowing. I`m suspecting that`s how the theraputic HCG during PCT thing is still floating around. Anyway. You`re right, HCG will increase estrogen levels. Some more than others, but you`ll definitely want to have an AI readily available. During PCT I recommend using a suicidal AI like Aromasin, over Arimidex. Aromasin will essentially kill the excess estrogen in your body while helping your system reach homeostasis easier. Arimidex, to put it simply will block, or suppress estrogen. When discontinued many experience a rebound effect that just throws things out of balance. Often I`ll hear guys just chalk the symptoms of a rebound up to being in recovery. A little Aromasin later and they`re feeling better. For when to discontinue your AI it all depends on your unique situation. I use Aromasin throughout and frequently beyond PCT. When I do discontinue, I taper off by spacing out my dosing intervals instead of lowering my dose of 12.5mg. While this works remarkably well for me, it might not for you. That said, test the waters. Take 12.5mg of Aromasin and wait a few days. Keep a record of how you feel. Then repeat until you find a balance that suits your needs. I have guys who need a full 25mg dose of Aromasin everyday and others who are good with half of that every 4 or 5 days during PCT. Last but least, I can`t stress enough, get blood work done. PCT is only completed once you have recovered. Just like your muscles don`t know how many pounds are on the bar, your balls could give a shit how many weeks it been. Good question, have fun with the research!
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 19, 2019
hCG does aromatize slightly. If you are going to need AI or not, it will depend on individual use. Have it on hand, but don`t use it if there isn`t any need for it. 2 weeks hCG, 4 weeks nolva.. wait, are you going to use hCG during PCT and not during cycle? Don`t do that, hCG is supressive on its own, use it only during cycle, and for PCT use Nolvadex only. hCG does not belong in PCT, it belongs in the last part of a cycle. Stop hCG 3-4 days before start of PCT.
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How do you use this as a pct? What are the dosing requirements? Can it be used with clomid?
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Jay User profile
Answered: May 31, 2019
Its HCG not a PCT exactly. You pin 250iu twice a week while on cycle until 2 weeks after your last pin to keep your balls from going to sleep. Then you have to stop taking it and let the body start producing test again by itself. Some take Clomid at this point but its not necessary. HCG is fragile, when you mix it make sure you don`t shake and only roll it on the palm of your hand very gently and from there it starts loosing potency and after 3 weeks it will loose all potency.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: May 31, 2019
To add onto Jay`s answer, store in the refrigerator whether in powder or mixed form. It needs the cold temperatures to last longer. Once it`s in liquid form, it will last just over a month. Powder form in the fridge can last years.
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nickname_963 User profile
Answered: May 31, 2019
This is HCG, not pct, you cannot use as such. You should use HCG during a cycle to keep the testicular atrophy from occurring. Take 250 ius twice per week. You can also take larger amounts at the end of a cycle but generally it is not recommended. Make sure you read up on how much and when to take pct agents such as clomid and Nolva.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: May 31, 2019
You can use it to “jump start” your PCT if you choose not to run it on cycle. It’s a versatile compound and there’s more than one way to use it. Most guys prefer to use it while on to prevent atrophy. Good luck.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Answered: May 31, 2019
HCG can be used on cycle and PCT or PCT alone. You need about 500-1000 IUs dosed at 250-500 twice per week.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: May 31, 2019
Great PCT choice. I would blast all of that HCG starting a few days after last injection of test. Just split it into 10 shots and bang one a day. After that run Clomid at 50mg a day for two weeks, then 25mg a day for two more weeks.
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I only use synthetic rHCG (recombinant hcg). Regular hcg comes directly from pregnant female piss (urine) and I find it sick and unsafe as well. Can you please tell me if this is synthetic hcg (known as rHCG) and if not does napsgear sell synthetic rHCG??
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Tren Man User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
I think all big pharmas are synthetic. Its produced from cultures of genetically modified cells using recombinant DNA technology.
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RJB User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
I agree with Tren I believe all of the companies use a synthetic to get Hcg.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 17, 2019
My understanding is that all comercially available HCG is rHCG / synthetic, but I`m certainly not an expert on this compound.
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ViktorN User profile
Answered: May 17, 2019
I hate to tell you this but back in the days hgh was extracted from cadavers. Dead human. Now with the biotech industry it’s produce thru recombinant DNA technology. This is why they called it the 191 amino sequence. Because each amino acid has a 3 DNA code triplets. Once you know the amino acid sequence then you can sequence the order of DNA. Then you inserted that DNA sequence into a bacteria DNA called plasmid. The bacteria we used and most commonly use for everything is E. coli. Yup the one you hear on tv but with a different modification. That recombinant E. coli grow at an exponential rate until it is a lot ALot. Then we kill it and extract all the protein that it reproduce. Lyophylized the 191 amino acids (freeze dried), bottled it and sell it to folks. So pharma used E. coli to mass produce hgh. You can do this with spider web and any protein you can think off. It’s the most cost effective way to mass produce something biological. That’s it. Hope that answer your question.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: May 17, 2019
All these compounds are synthetic and made in a lab these days. There is nothing to worry about.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: May 17, 2019
All of these gentlemen are correct, all pharmaceutical produced hcg is technically rHCG just as all hgh is rHGH the fda no longer allows for the extraction of hcg from women’s urine or the placenta. with recombinant technology now a days it would be less cost effective to extract it that way, the only times your will find and endogenous hcg product is usually in homeopathic settings
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how many vials of this exact product do i need to purchase for a proper hcg cycle with test and anavar cycle of 15 weeks. i dont understand whether one vial is one single shot and i need 12 freaking vials or if one 5000iu vial is enough for one round(cycle)
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Chip User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2019
If you use the “basic” 500 iu EOD for 2-3 weeks protocol then you`ll only need one 5000 iu kit. After a testosterone and anavar cycle thats probably all you`ll need to get your testes up and running. Some users report much higher doses for PCT protocol but typically thats after “bigger” cycles with stronger anabolics. Piana was famous for saying he used 2000 ius EOD and Palumbo recommends using 2000 ius every third day but they are very big boys with decades of anabolic use and likely desensitized testes. After test and anavar Id go with the 500 ius EOD for 2-3 weeks.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 24, 2019
One vial is designed to be enough for a single AAS cycle. Start 2.5 weeks into your cycle, and inject 200 iu subcontaneously twice a week. This will last you through the end of your cycle and keep your testes in good shape. Never exceed 500iu per week, as this can desensitized the Legid cells and cause issues.
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how much does a person take
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Rene Chang
Answered: Dec 04, 2018
I would suggest using this product through the cycle at 250iu every 3 days up to PCT. There are many ways to use HCG though.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 05, 2018
Studies have shown best hcg protocol for HTPA restart is starting from mid cycle so if 12 weeks start at 6 at 250iu twice a week up until pct.
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J.P. User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 12, 2018
HCG works well being taken every 5 days. Doses as low as 250iu`s will be effective. Too much will likely screw with your estrogen levels. You`ll have to work out the dose and protocol that works best for you, but this is a good starting point for most people.
