Hey Bros, I`m on a cycle of 600mg Test and 400mg NPP a week.5 weeks in and I`m having trouble orgasming. I can get hard and fuck for hours which is great. Sexual desire is super high, but I can`t finish. The lady is getting upset. lol Is this a sign of high Prolactin or high estrogen? I have been taking Aromasin conservatively and have no other signs of high estrogen. I do have some Caber on hand, and I plan on getting bloodwork done soon, but just wanted to ask you fellas first. Ill vote up your answers, thanks guys.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Likely prolactin. I ran into this as well…then in a couple of weeks you hit deca dick. You can dose caber, but I would also drop NPP to 50% of test. Doing both should help immensely. There were a few nights I just quit cuz I was tired of trying. Because NPP is so short estered, try dropping the dose. Some can run high Nandrolone. I seem to do best with moderation.
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Gymmonkey User profile
I’m having same problem on just 500mg test. Finish but takes awhile. It’s becoming part of my cardio!
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Jogger User profile Expert
Yeah man I got this too but never used caber, it goes away after a while though, good luck
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
More than likely prolactin level is up that`s what gives someone a boner for days but he just can`t blow your load all over her.
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Zilla User profile
Definitely prolactin! I`ve ran almost exactly the same cycle and just dropped the npp a little bit (from 600 to 400) & everything went back to normal. I would think your dose is only slightly high bc your still getting up ok. Or you could introduce caber at .25 twice a wk & see if that corrects the issue. Good luck bro!
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POOKIE2 User profile
Sounds like slightly elevated prolactin so the NPP is working which is good news and you know your tolerance. Add a small amount of caber like 0.25 on injection days and see how that works. You should get immediate results and can adjust up or down accordingly. You are right on that fine line so would not recommend lowering the dose just yet…use your support to control it first. Good luck….stay swole!
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
Same thing happened to me. Its deca dick bro. Caber will fix it. Start taking it. I don`t run 19 nors without caber on hand anymore for that reason
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what is the difference between dostinex and cabaser?
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
The difference is the manufacturers. Both are cabergoline products. I personally buy the 1mg Cabaser brand and it`s always worked well for me. From what I`ve read, the compound is difficult to manufacture so I`m cautious of generics and I definitely would never use a “research chem” of this drug. Good luck and don`t forget to vote. Thanks.
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Onyx User profile Expert
how much of it do you use?
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Why the fuck did you give me a down vote?
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Onyx User profile Expert
I am sorry, it was meant to be a positive vote. I`ll try to correct it. Sorry again I am new to this QA thing.
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Jason123 User profile
Same product. One is just a name brand.
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Jaris User profile
Some of manufacturers just use different name for a product, so that is the case now
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Onyx User profile Expert
Is is ebough .25 mg twice weekly for cabaser? Thanks
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Does this Cabergoline actually make u last longer in bed? I just heard about this from by boy for gyno. But then he said he lasg all night wit his girl. He aint around now to ask thow of course but if i used it for fuckin would i take it just before like viagra or id have to be on it for a while i no odd question but who dont wanna nut 10x a night
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Patriot User profile Expert
The most Cabergoline I`ve used is 2mg a week split in two doses and I`ve never had any experience where I felt like this compound was an ED drug replacement. Literature states that this can reduce your “down time” after sex per se, but I just haven`t had anything that stood out as a sexual enhancement for me personally.
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TonyJuarez User profile
Dapoxetine works wonders. Sold here of course, high quality
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MikeOxlong User profile
I`m going to have to agree with Patriot on this one. I`ve used minimum amounts of Cabergoline (1mg per week) to offset prolactin issues. I`ve never had benefits of it acting like an ED med. I`ve read that it reduces refractory period, or the time in between being able to achieve another erection and or orgasm, but I haven`t experienced that either. Maybe at a higher dose it`s possible, but not for me at the dose I ran. You`re better off getting some generic Viagra, Cialis or Levitra. Good luck
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Jogger User profile Expert
No friend I’m just makes you ready for action quicker, it made me more horny too, good luck
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Anonymous_7 User profile
I have only taken this to combat prolactin side effects. Never for ED or lasting longer. I have heard is speeds up the time before you`re ready to go again but that is it. Really when on gear even without Caber I`m ready to hit it again quicker
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Ahdudu User profile
Yes it does work like an erectile dysfunction pill … it works better if you haven’t taken it before . It makes you too horny and too hard it actually hurts I would not suggest it you will become a slave to masterbation and your standards of who tou fuck will go out the window . Prolactin is the hormone that causes lactation in breasts in females and in men it causes after ejaculation a man to become less interested in sex as it floods your system after sex and than you don’t want anymore sex .. however since prolactin is always present in a mans body it slightly keeps your sex drive from being at its best so when you block prolactin the hormone that causes you not to be horny what do you think is going to happen . If someone has severe hormonal imbalance than caber wont work as an erectile dysfunction drug not for someone who hasn’t been on gear abusing steroids it will work insane for sex drive and hard ons . For someone on tren it might just cancel out the tren dick or deca dick but for a someone just in basic test who has not ducked their hormones and caused severe dick issues it should work wonders so much so it’s not comfortable at all . I would suggest cialis it feels way better than caber and it’s just a healthier option being that caber can effect your heart if ran to high or for too long where as in cialis improves cardiovascular health supposedly and improves your gym pumps and vascularity. You just feel better on cialis
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If I use 500mgs of test enth per week and 250mgs of deca, how much cabaser should I use?
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Frank User profile Expert
Good question. I`d like to first say that if I were you I`d increase the deca to 350mg. You don`t want too much of a variation between the test and deca. I like to keep them within 100mg of each other. As for the caber. Do not run this for the duration of the cycle. ONLY run it when we experience sides such as deca dick. If you do, run .5mg every three days for two or three weeks or until the sides subside. Then stop. When taking gear your test, estrogen and progesterone need to be in sync. If you take caber all the time you`ll kill your progesterone which will throw off the balance. The best thing to do if possible is to get bloodwork done once you have sides. This way you can treat the sides effectively. Hope that helps brother. Don`t forget to vote by clicking the up arrow by my name. Thanks.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
I would use zero. But that`s me. Thays a low dosage of deca. Maybe have some on hand just incase but I wouldn`t worry.
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nickname_199023 User profile
I agree with nickname_21 I ran the same cycle my first time but I kept some on hand and as far as keeping them 100 mg apart that might for you but not for Everbody I could see maybe 500/300 and see how it goes but you don’t want deca dick for me the 500/250 doses worked out great my libido was super high the whole time and I made some really good gains! Good luck
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Mike Oxlong User profile
I recently ran a cycle of 500mg test E and 500mg deca. I ran 12.5mg of aromasin twice a week for an AI. I had Caber on hand but I had zero prolactin issues or sides. No Deca dick. Infact my libido was high AF!!! It was a great cycle. Don`t use Caber if you don`t have prolactin sides.
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jason User profile
I run caber at .5 mg on Monday and Thursday, but only when I get some nipple sensitivity.
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Patriot User profile Expert
With that low of a dose I would say you`re probably not going to have any issues. Have Cabaser on hand just in case as others are saying. With all that said, 250mgs/week isn`t going to really stir things up IMO. Me personally, I would run 400mgs/week to start and .5mgs/week of Cabaser just as a precautionary. Whatever you choose, good luck.
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If I run 600mg of test per week and 20mg of Dbol per week for 12 weeks, what is the average dose for using this product to combat negative sides?
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Traianos123 User profile Expert
If u run test and dbol u dont need Cabaser to combat sides, u will need an estrogen blocker like Arimidex, 0.5mg/EOD or twice per week. Cabaser is used by those that run deca or trenbolone in order to keep prolactin levels under control.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
This is NOT the right product. You need aromasin at 12.5mg every 3 days, OR arimidex at 0.5mg every three days. Your managing elevated estrogen from the excess testosterone aromatising (converting) into estrogen.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Test will convert to estrogen through an enzyme can Aromatase. So taking an aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimidex or A stronger AI, Aromasin. I dont recommend you take ai unless you needed it. Once you start to feel estrogen sides take arimidex first at half a pill eod. if sides does not slower down take one pill eod. Caber is use to mitigate prolactin which cause gyno. Caber is use for nandrolone or tren. got it?
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I want to run a n.p.p cycle soon with base test etc..cabergoline vs pramipexhole for onboard support
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Pastaboy, I would use caber for elevated prolactin. The brand you linked to is good — it`s the exact one I use. Blood work is the best and only true way to know if you need it. I had blood work done before and after taking this caber and it`s definitely legit. It got my prolactin levels back in range. Thanks for the question
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I will be starting my next cycle in June. I will be taking 300mg of test cyp a week and 200mg a week of tren a week. Week 1-4 I will be kickstarting with dbol 30 mg a day. Starting week 6 I will be adding proviron 50mg a day and Var 50mg a day until week 12. I have Aromasin and Arimidex on hand but I`m going to get Cabaser for the Tren. My question is how will I know the difference between high estrogen and when I need my Arimidex or when I need my Cabaser? What sides do I need to look for to determine which I need?
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
You will know trust me sore nips or swelling or tender they will get real sensitive then just take and a tab of adex for eod a week and will be gone
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MegaCycle User profile
Prolactin sides are much different then estrogen sides. There are way to many of both to post here. Reddit steroids wiki has an estrogen handbook that shows high and low estrogen sides, prolactin sides are much different but there are still lots of possible sides. Most people only get 1-2 sides of each, it`s just which 1-2 sides that change. Most common one that people worry about are issues getting hard and milking nipples.
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Cycler11 User profile
Every TRT doctor I`ve seen put out content about it says the same thing, that they have never actually seen the tests come back indicating high prolactin. It`s always the estrogen they. Your Est can get pretty high before even noticing the sides. That is a fairly moderate dose, so if it were me I`d not use the arimidex or the caber unless you experience sides. Sides for est can be itchy swollen nips, flushed skin, moon face, wanting to cry over a tampon commercial lol, etc. Always use the arimidex for this. I`d recommend having Nolva on hand incase emergency if you go any higher on doses. Never know and Nolva will kill the problem real quick if it got to be an emergency. Prolactin sides can be the nips, but usually Arimidex, .5 twice a week is plenty. More common is erectile dysfunction, and anxiety. If you start feeling anxious take .5 caber 2 a week for a week to 2 weeks, I have never had to longer than a week and social anxiety all but disappears even. I wouldn`t recommend long term use of caber. Long term use of the Adex is fine tho long as you target that sweet spot. Remember, it is hard to crash your est but if you do you will be in a world of shit for a while. GL!
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Frank User profile Expert
High estrogen you can see puffy or itchy nipples. Increased fatigue. For the prolactin sides you`ll have what`s referred to as deca dick. You`ll know it when you have it. You don`t get a full erection. It`s somewhere in between hard and limp. Like I said you`ll know it right away. Running through low dose of tren you probably won`t need it. The cycle looks good otherwise.
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Will User profile Expert
The side effects of prolactin and high estrogen are rather similar. A blood test is the only way to know and blood tests during a cycle would be smart. Sticking with the dosing protocol of twice a week for Caber and one day on and two off of you AI is a good protocol to follow. If you notice side effects like the sensitive nipples, acne, water weight, then you can change you AI dosing to every other day. I know you didn`t ask but as you laid out your cycle, you`re essentially taking an oral for 9+ weeks which is a terrible idea. Proviron is weak enough that you could run that, but dbol and then anavar without any break or a short 2 weeks break is simply not enough. Do your health a favor and rethink your oral plan.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Zales, this is a good question. The best and only real way to know is to get blood work done. Get it before, during and after the cycle. If you have itchy, puffy, hurting nips and the adex or nolva doesn`t take care of it then it`s a prolactin issue that needs caber. Only take if really necessary. Thanks for the question
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I was told b2 works just as well as cabergoline has anyone heard of this ?
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Kevin User profile
Its vitamin b6 to replace caber at 600mg a day. This will help lower prolactin levels. Works great for me as caber gives me indigestion.
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nickname_88 User profile
Just as the first answer states…. vitamin by not b2.. and yes helps lower prolactin… I take 600mgs each morning after I pin tren ace.. or just the same each morning if I`m running tren e as well.. never once had to use caber..
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Yes i heard that b6 can reduce prolactin level, i like to use Caber when i run Deca, 0.5mg twice per week is enough to keep the level of prolactin under control.
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Jim User profile
Try it and if it doesn`t work well then just go to caber.
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Matt Beard User profile
600mg B6 is what you mean. There are a few studies of it on the internet, Dr Scott informed me of this when I posted a question a while back.
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JeyReign User profile
Vitamin b6 at 600mg a day. I don`t think it would be as effective as Caber though.
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FatDadstack User profile
Everybody is different. For myself I use prami or caber. If your not prolactin sensitive I`m sure a high dose of b12 would help but if your having sensual disfunction you need caber ..
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Lord User profile
It works well with something like deca but I never tried it with tren. I always stuck to caber.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
As Matt and the others said B6 although this is the 2nd or 3rd time that i have heard someone bring up b2 maybe something to it??, but prob just a typo. to answer your question I did read a few studies on B6 and prolactin and does seem to work, but probably nothing works “as well as” caber or um…bromocriptine. These compounds work exceptionally well, not trying to speak for you but your question should perhaps be: does B6 work well enough to mitigate the sides i have from increased prolactin so i can avoid caber? The answer, it seems, according to the others and some small studies that i have read seems like yes (or at least a solid maybe). But you really have to try it yourself, i have never had prolactin sides but i have caber in my top drawer JIC, so should you IMO. best of luck
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Why is this so much cheaper than the other caber? Am I missing something? 20x1mg, right? I`m not complaining, but it`s obviously important that I get the right thing since I`m rapidly approaching an NPP/Test cycle.
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novadesert007 User profile
Its bulk and buy bulk cheaper. This you have to cut 1/2. These are my go to caber on deca and tren cycle
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Pookie User profile
Not missing anything. This is the exact product I`ve been ordering and taking for years. I always keep this exact brand on hand. It`s 100% legit
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Big Dogg User profile
Caner is ridiculous. Just use bromocriptine. Way cheaper. I`ve used nandrolone and tren and never had any prolactin sides. Always run with bromo. Tou can use pramipexole too. Also way cheaper than caber. Any dopamine agonist will work.
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Dan User profile Expert
24roids has quality stuff at discounted price. Just look at the POTW. Yes definitely have it on hand when you start nandrolone!
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nickname_464 User profile
One is name brand Pfizer and the other is a generic. However both are going to work the same.
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Larry User profile Expert
If you want to reduce your prolactin levels because you are on deca or tren then this is the right product. The more you buy the better deal you would get, you are buying 20 pills instead of the usual 4.
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What`s up homies??? If I`m gonna be running a Test Cyp, Tren E and Masteron should I take this during my cycle???? What other maintenance is good for this stack??
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Taylor User profile
You don`t have to immediately take the Cabergoline but I`d have that on hand along with Aromasin. Ypu can start with Aromasin 12.5mg twice a week and Caber .5mg twice a week. You can always bump it up to 3 days, 4 days, etc just start of at a lite dosage and monitor your side effects.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Yes take caber 0.25mg 2 x week. Have Arimidex on hand as well, 0.5mg 3 x week. I`m assuming you`re running about 500mg test and moderate tren and mast. Next time give us dosages. The more info the better answers you`ll get. Cheers
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BigOlRed User profile
I`d get some clomiphene or Nolva and cabergoline
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
You can I dont personally if your tren is below 350 you should be fine but every one is differnt I would ha e it on hand just incase it I wouldn`t use it untill I felt like symptoms are occurring
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
Sounds good. Make sure to get you blood tests.
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
Make sure you keep caber on hand but other than that sounds like a plan maybe add some winstrol at the end