The last batch of orals from geneza were solid blended color tablets. Now they are white interior with colored external coating. Is this a product change that ocurred? Or is this not true geneza product? The isn says authentic. Yet im still not sure.
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Ryan User profile
Orals have a tendency to change appearance and shape relatively often by companies (im not sure why but I wouldnt worry about it)
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
this just happened with GP Proviron. The ISN matched up authentic and I didn`t notice a difference. I wouldn`t worry about it
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
They keep changing the colours and packaging. If it says it`s authentic on their website then it`s authentic.
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Fit_mom User profile
Must be a running change. I was running T3 from GP that was red outer shell and white inner. That was ordered back in July. The new order from August is a light pink outer shell. Seems to be the same dose level as I`m taking the new shade.
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Nattygains User profile
I have never had any issues with the quality of any of geneza products. I would stand by them 100%. I wouldn`t worry about it at all.
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KSI User profile
Well not frequent, on some occasions underground labs will switch colors and even pill shapes based on availability the products and machinery. In five years, I’ve never had a single instance of underdosed or bunk products.
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If I was combining this with a tren 200 and test 250 3x a week would it be too much to also be taking anavar,proviron or maybe winstrol?
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Big E User profile
There is really no need in adding Anavar to a cycle with Tren. Tren is doing 10 times the work that Anavar can ever do.Proviron would be a good addition I`m my opinion. A lot of this depends on your goals. If your looking to cut than go with winstrol and if you want to do a lean bulk than just stick with Test Tren and proviron. Most importantly make sure you have some arimidex and caber on hand before starting.Good Luck
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JB Beckham User profile
I`m assuming you`re asking about test and teen E. The Dianabol will give you an excellent jump start to this cycle but once the tren kicks in usually by 3rd or 4th week, you can stop the Dianabol. If you are trying to lean out I`d save the winstrol for the end of your cycle (last 4 weeks) There is absolutely no need for car while running test/tren. Save that for post cycle during your PCT and beyond to maintain gains.
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Scott User profile
Your test, tren, and proviron is a good cycle. Dbol will provide a good kickstart. I would highly recommend NOT running var during any PCT. It shuts your natty test down which would defeat the purpose of doing a PCT..
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anonymous99 User profile
You really don`t have to use them all but you can if you want to. If your running a cycle longer than 10 weeks, you don`t want to stay on tren longer than 8-10 weeks. Proviron can be used with test and tren then add Winstrol toward final weeks, drop proviron and save the Var for another time.
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John User profile Expert
If you want to take 1 cc of each 3x a week, that a lot of gear by itself. 2x a week is the sweet spot for most people and if you are novice start with 200mg of tren e a week. Save the var for later cycle, you can take some Proviron to reduce the SHBG
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nickname_537 User profile
If you take winstrol be sure not to exceed 4-6 weeks because it`s liver toxic (orals are except anavar). If anavar is run take for 12 weeks because it`s mild and doesn`t impact the liver as much. Proviron is always good to run while on cycle for it`s shbg lowering effect because low shbg causes steroids to work better, proviron also has a mild estrogen blocking effect and that`s good because men need some estrogen too for proper bodily function.
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I am looking at taking GP Methan 50 for a cycle. Do you need an estrogen blocker and liver cleanse with this if its the first time use. I am going to split the pill and take twice to 3 times daily of the 50 MG. Any help on this would be much appreciated.
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Yes, you should absolutely have an aromatase inhibitor such as anastrozole (arimidex) on hand. A good starting dose is 0.25 mg every other day, adjust upward as needed. Do not take this for any longer than six weeks, and be aware that you are likely to lose a good portion of your gains without supplementing with injectable testosterone.
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Vincent Valentine User profile Expert
You should use both a compound to reduce estrogen and a supplement to help protect your liver while taking methan. To help reduce estrogen buildup, an AI (aromatase inhibitor) like anastrozole is always a solid choice. Alternatively a SERM (selective estrogenic receptor modulator) like nolva or clomid would also help reduce the negative side effects associated with estrogen buildup, although it is more common to use a SERM during PCT. For the liver protection I`d go with milk thistle. As it has an active life of 3-8 hours, taking it three times a day is a good idea.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Yes you should definitely be using an AI like arimidex to combat estrogen related sides which are definitely possible while using dbol. You should also use a liver supplement like liv-52 purchased here on 24roids. I would just take the 50mg pwo or on an empty stomach if I were you instead of dividing it up. Also make sure the cycle is in the 4-6 week range.
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Should I spilt these pills in half or take just a full 1 pill a day
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Either is acceptable depending on your goals. Acceptable dianabol doses vary from just 10 mg all the way to over 100mg
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Split in half and take 1/2 at breakfast and 1/2 at dinner, dbol is great for shuttling nutrients to the muscles after a hard workout, and the half life is 4-5 hours so it’s best to split the doses accordingly.
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Adam Glinski User profile
split in half 1/2 in the morning and another half 6hr later
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Dan Drought User profile
split dose due to short half life.
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
Taking just one a day with something like Dianabol will likely send you on a hormonal roller coaster considering the short half life. In my experience the 10mg version of this same product is a better option. It allows for more control over your dosing. You could split the tablets, but if they`re still the diamonds, splitting them more than once is not fun. Go with the 10`s, keep the dose at the level that is most effective for you (less is more a lot of times) and stay healthy
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What are people experience on gp dbol
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Ike User profile Expert
Geneza is a good brand owned by 24roids themselves if I`m not mistaken. If you can`t decide Rus bio and alpha pharma are good to go too.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Rob, My experience with dbol is not a good one. It makes me sick even at low doses. When I can`t eat of course I can`t grow. I had to stop taking dbol all together and switch to adrol. Ironically adrol works great for me up to 100mg per day — I don`t get sick at all. Thanks for the question
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Big Dogg User profile
Swelling up with water weight quickly. You will look bigger and smoother very week. Should have good strength increase weekly. Gains will come quick but will go quickly also.
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
It was euphoric like had me ready to hit the gym all the time
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John User profile
Used it dozens of times and been great each time huge strength bumps and massive pumps.
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Anyone else not feel anything till after a week ? I been taking 50mg split 25 am and pm for 6 days and I have no strength increases or anything noticeable including e2 symptoms I didn`t even up my ai ? Hoping im just someone they take a bit to start feeling it and I didn`t get a unlucky batch or something any tips or ideas as to what`s going on would be nice thanks !
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Papi1266 User profile
I know people who have used GP dbol and felt things right away within a day or two of taking it. Depends everyone`s body reacts differently, I don`t believe that you got a bad batch, but if your not feeling anything after another week in would contact 24roids
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Michael Vasquez User profile
Try splitting the doses up to 3x a day, you should have definitely started feeling it withing the first week. But everyone is different.
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Steron12 User profile
That’s very strange I also bought from them but I used the 10mg tabs and I take 30mg a day 50is toxic to me to the point that I can’t even eat. My strength went off the chartsand I put on roughly 20 pounds in 4 weeks and I’m not going to lie I even drink alcohol on it of course I take massive amounts of pills to protect myself but I’m not recommending any of this. Try taking an entire tab 45 minutes before your workout in other words use it as s preworkout. I’m assuming you’re also on testosterone
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Are you already into a cycle and started taking this, as your comment about your AI would suggest? If thats the case, your prob not going to notice anything for a week or more. Some people might feel this after a day or two, but this might be from placebo or becuase they are starting off a zero androgen baseline right at the beginning of a cycle. In any case, dbol is crazy cheap to make, and virtually never faked or underdosed.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
I ran the GP Dbol 50mg split twice a day before and didn`t get much until about a week. I have the same issue with test prop and Adrol…it seems I dont notice much until about 8 or so days. But then it comes on quick.
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Hill User profile
In and of itself without any other compounds onboard yes you should be starting to feel some thing at about a week or less
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My first cycle ever was from a aluminum foil package with120 g testosterone cypionate my buddy ordered from China and he home-brewed, I did 1 ml every 3 days and blew the f**** up, so I have always been a test cypionate guy for that reason. I had no AI and ended up running clomid with HCG for my PCT and kept most the gains, I was also eating very well, 12 years younger and training with a gym across the street from my house. Order the test cypionate you can grab some nolvadex most likely won`t need it clomid HCG and eat eat eat train your muscles until failure every time you train no matter what muscle it is,,,,,
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John User profile
Great formula Rick. I`m a cypoinate guy myself. I love the longer ester on it. Train hard eat and sleep is the only way. The gear is a small piece of the puzzle. Thanks for sharing.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Ran Cyp for first cycle as well. Big fan, but I motice zero difference between Enan Na Cyp. For some reason though, Enan seems to be the most popular. But lets be honest….is there any better feeling than when whatever ester you use “kicks” in?
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Cyp and E are the same for me, both great. Definitely train hard 6 days a week and switch up workouts, high/low reps, supersets….etc. Going to run a prop ester cycle this summer for 8 weeks this summer.
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Matt Beard User profile
On first cycle now, test e only, 3.5 weeks in. Strength is definitely increasing, not sure if it`s the test yet or just because I`m pushing extra hard because I know I`m on the test but either way it`s good. Gained 6lbs so far. Looking forward to the next 8 weeks or so.
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JB205 User profile Expert
I know test cyp and E are both long esters and no real differences between them, but for some reason when I run test cyp I`ll start to have sides like acne on my back. I`ve run different brands with different oils and even test cyp from my doc, every time about 3 weeks in I get the same sides. But I can run test E and run DP test blend with cyp in it and no issues. Never could pin point why so I just run DP test blend as my go to test
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Taylor User profile
For me personally Test Ent and Cyp are also identical. I needed to get a long lasting ester this last order as well so I went with Sus 350 blems of 5 different esters.
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I meant to say geneza orals,you do not have to order 10packs now they are doing single packs for half off on the selected orals so can get a few of each type,I`m gonna grab a few winny,tren,adex,Nolva,dbol,now that I can get 2 or 3 packs and get half off, Just wish they would throw a few oils in there,
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Will User profile Expert
I highly recommend giving M1T a try while it`s as cheap as it is. Just 1 10mg tab gives a hell of a strength increase! Add in 2 and 3 tabs later on and damn do you jump up in strength! Zero issues with appetite loss or acid reflux like I`ve gotten from other orals.
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Papi1266 User profile
GP`s a great brand, I ran their dbol with amazing results just on a 4 week cycle, and yes I agree their prices are not bad at all
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Dragon pharms also has clen and clomid on sale. Pretty good deal. I`m wanting oils too.
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Unc33135 User profile
Ya they ran something similar to this before, i think it was 40% off though. Great time to stock up.
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novadesert007 User profile
I just got 10 pack of winstro oral from GP. Great stuffs!
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Nickname_66 User profile
Time to try out some new stuff thanks!!
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Hey guys, do you think of it being ok to use this as a bridge between cycles? I know it says that it`s ok to use a low 10mg dose until starting the next cycle, but I wanted to hear from fellow 24roids members what they use for a bridge or if they use one at all. Thanks.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
This question comes up a lot and i know lots of guys who do it with either tbol,dbol or proviron. I prefer low dose test (100-200mg a week) and/or a bit of proviron. I imagine you are doing it to help preserve your gains and i`m sure you could although i don`t know if 10mg a day is enough to make any real difference, but you know your body better than i do so why not.
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Will User profile Expert
Well leta put it this way, if you`re PCTing and taking dbol, you`re really not PCTing and recovering your health. If you`re cruising on a TRT dose of Test and you`re taking dbol, you`re still blasting, not cruising. The point of time between cycles like PCT or a cruise is to recover your health. Your health and natural levels aren`t recovering if you`re taking an oral because an oral is suppressive. Either drop down to TRT only or fully come off and be patient. Health > muscle/strength
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traianos123 User profile
I think Dianabol is not a good choice to use as a bridge between cycles, i know 10mg is a small dose but u should choose something that dont convert and that not suppress your test production, i dont use nothing between my cycles as bridge, your choice but i think is better just to make your PCT and nothing alse.
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skitt User profile
Yes, you can use this as a bridge, like you said at 10 mg a day possibly even as low as 5 mg a day… I cant remember where but I do know I read it more then once that it was either 5 mg or 10 mg and I think it was a 10 mg a day dose though was enough to raise androgen levels in a man 4 to 5 times the normal rate. I have not personally used this as a bridge all though I have some and was thinking about giving it a try, but personally if I was to bridge I would use a low dose of test but that`s just me.. 10 mg a day I would think would not be that much liver toxic but none the less it still would affect a persons liver.. That would be the reason I would probably run low dose test as a bridge but every one is different.. Go ahead an give it a try and good luck
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RJB16 User profile
Run Trt brother or come off and Pct to get your levels back to normal…. Have bloodwork done, there has been a lot of questions about bridging but as 123 stated I do nothing in between cycles but you know how you react to the compounds and how your body feels…
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Unless you are on trt what ever aas you take in between the cycle is going to further delay your natural test production and hamper pct.
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This will be my first time kicking a cycle off with oral DBOL. what would be a good dosage to start with?
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patsalos mixalis User profile
You don’t need more than 30mg dbol take 10 mg every 4-5 hours you will grow trust me
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mixalhs patsalos User profile
About 10mg 3 times daily have an ai ready to go my friend
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Papi1266 User profile
I found that 50 workedbest for me a day spread out throughout the day, u will see gains quickly. Be sure to take something along with it, very harsh on liver and kidneys. Good luck
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Jonathon, I like to start at the lowest dosage of 10mg per day split up into 5mg in the morning and 5mg at night. If that is tolerated well as in no nausea then I will double that to 20mg per day and work up to 50mg per day. This can be done over the course of a few weeks. You can even split the dosage into 3 taking it with breakfast, lunch and dinner. Thanks for the question
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Big Dogg User profile
Start at 20mg/day and see how that works for you. If no problems go to 30 after one week. You could go to 40 after the second week but you would probably be happy with the gains at 30/day.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Don`t go above 40mg a day. I prefer 10mg in the morning and 30 mg an hour before workout each day.
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Hey guys unfortunately my dbol was seized by customs how do I contact 24roids in order to get this product shipped again. This is the first time I`ve ever gotten anything seized
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Dromeo User profile
I wouldn`t worry about it. Contact 24roids and they`ll reship. They`re very easy to deal with.
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voodoo User profile
Register at 24roids Then place a ticket. Give order number. A rep will contact you with a day. You have nothing to worry.
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traianos123 User profile
Open a ticket, 24roids will resend your order, is easy…
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Like the rest said, go to 24roids and submit a ticket. They should take care of you. Good luck
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LilBear User profile
Go to 24roids d o t c o m. You can put in a ticket there. Send them a photo of the seizure letter.
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JB205 User profile Expert
Just take a picture of the seizure letter and send it to 24roids help department and they will give you the info you need.
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I am 1 week in on Test Prop 50mg per day. ,Npp 100mg EOD,,and adding dbol 30mg day split in 3 doses..is this good on the dbol..also should I be doing the Npp 50mg a day same as my test…It`s kicked in for sure starting dbol today. I have Liv 52 and adex .5 a day
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
If it`s your first dbol run 3x10mg split throughout the day is perfect. You can also pin the NPP and Test at the same time in the same syringe. That will keep you from pinning everyday. Also make sure you have some PCT on hand for after, but looks good.
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nickname_753 User profile Expert
30mg of dbol a day is fine. You don`t have to pin npp ed but since you are pinning test p ed you can add in your npp too. Watch your blood pressure, you are taking multiple compounds that raise blood pressure.
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YD1 User profile
Hey bud. I think your doing great. I usually like to keep my test above any other compound. But your cycle is not bad. If its working for you now. I would rather do Anadrol before DBol any day due to water and estro sides. Good luck. Continue reading GP Methan 50 (Dianabol) Geneza Pharmaceuticals
