Hello everyone, Quick question. With test e being a long ester and EQ needing to build up in your system, should I front load this stuff. Maybe run double for the first week?
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Rian Hoeben
Is this your first cycle? Nothing wrong with allowing Test E and EQ to build up slowly in the system. Much safer approach in my opinion.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Front loading is not necessary but I would expect long-term results with this cycle.
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anonymous_386
No need to front load cause it should be a long cycle anyway 12 to 16 weeks. If 10 or shorter then yes but wouldn’t do less than 12 with eq.
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nickname_537 User profile
You can double up for a front load for faster effect. But if it`s your first cycle it`s not recommended to go that high. Also if your first cycle stick to testosterone only. This is the only way to know how your body responds to individual compounds and you can add one more next time and so forth until you know how each item works on you. But testosterone is a base and that means you need to run it every cycle to keep levels up because any steroid will lower testosterone and testosterone is naturally occurring in your body and you need it for proper function.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Slow and steady wins the race. You can but what`s the rush.everyone wants everything now.i don`t think it makes that much difference when I tried front loading but .you are going to do what you have decided anyway so give it a try bro.
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ViktorN User profile
No need to frontload EQ. Although some would say to do so. EQ takes 4-5 weeks to kick in so taking more in my opinion wouldn’t help much. Instead spend those 4/5weeks to push your muscle to your best. And when testE and EQ kicked they will pass that limit. Don’t forget your pct and AI before you start. Good luck my friend. (Late answer but just in case some search EQ/enanthate).
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Sup Big Bros, I just started a cutting cycle of Test E 500mg/week pin 2x, Primo at 600mg/week pin 2x and I plan to add in some Var at 50mg/ED the last 6 weeks. I`m also taking an AI .5mg anastrozole as needed. I just finished my 3rd pin (since the cycle started) 2 days ago and I`m feeling lethargic, my workouts arent enjoyable and my mood is not the best. I frontloaded the test at 500mg on day one (before introducing the primo) and immediately felt it. Felt great, good energy, training was good. After I introduced the primo I`m feeling everything stated above. Is it too soon to feel the primo working? Is the dose right for starting the cycle? Could it be the fact I`m cutting and the low calories? (182lbs, 5`11″, 14% bf, 2252 cal a day) Most importantly, anyone have any experience using Alpha Pharma primo? Gtg? Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks bros!
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Will1 User profile Expert
Well, cutting is about your diet, not the compounds you`re running. Im a little confused why you front loaded test. Very good chance that is what youre feeling right now. Highly unlikely the primo as you just injected it, but you`re also planning to run it at 600mg when you`ve never ran it before. I`d drop the dose to 400mg personally. Always run it lower the first time you run anything. I think you`ll get past the lethargy and energy if you give it a couple weeks. Again, I think front loading test is what has you feeling this way. The big thing with lethargy is just getting to the gym. Get yourself to the gym and follow your diet and you can endure this.
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BigZ User profile
Would not front load the test especially because you want everything to be as stable as possible and get your AI dose age down which is tough. I would just stick to 500mg a week and stick to that and see how you feel. Do bloods and check everything.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
It doesntbwork that way it will be a few weeks before you fell it. Did you take the AI? Well if you did then that`s what`s causing it. Just keep pinning 2x per week you ll be fine its all in your head the oil is slow even if you pinned 1000mg of test first week it will be a while before you kick in. And there s no need to front load that can just cuase problems and estrogen spike
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Onyx User profile
I think it is the diet brother. Try taking a few grapes before the workout. It always gives me extra energy. I have used primo before at 700 mg/ week no such effects. Good luck!
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test used to give me a fast kick in drive and energy, but it was years and years ago. Everybody reacts different. But primo doesn`t do such a thing. Recall it is not the compounds but your diet that determines a cut. Primo only preserves and even slightly builds muscle in a caloric deficit, it`s great on low calories.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test used to give me a fast kick in drive and energy, but it was years and years ago. Everybody reacts different. But primo doesn`t do such a thing. Recall it is not the compounds but your diet that determines a cut. Primo only preserves and even slightly builds muscle in a caloric deficit, it`s great on low calories.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test used to give me a fast kick in drive and energy, but it was years and years ago. Everybody reacts different. But primo doesn`t do such a thing. Recall it is not the compounds but your diet that determines a cut. Primo only preserves and even slightly builds muscle in a caloric deficit, it`s great on low calories.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test used to give me a fast kick in drive and energy, but it was years and years ago. Everybody reacts different. But primo doesn`t do such a thing. Recall it is not the compounds but your diet that determines a cut. Primo only preserves and even slightly builds muscle in a caloric deficit, it`s great on low calories.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test used to give me a fast kick in drive and energy, but it was years and years ago. Everybody reacts different. But primo doesn`t do such a thing. Recall it is not the compounds but your diet that determines a cut. Primo only preserves and even slightly builds muscle in a caloric deficit, it`s great on low calories.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test used to give me a fast kick in drive and energy, but it was years and years ago. Everybody reacts different. But primo doesn`t do such a thing. Recall it is not the compounds but your diet that determines a cut. Primo only preserves and even slightly builds muscle in a caloric deficit, it`s great on low calories.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
of course it`s very likely your diet. But how much arimidex are you taking? you said 0.5mg “as needed”, arimidex is one of the more “mild” AI`s and binds geometrically but is used to treat breast cancer and in some studies lowers estrogen as much as 80% in some studies. All AI`s are powerful compounds and should be used with discretion IMO. I would bet it`s your diet but crashing your estrogen can result in most of the exact symptoms you are talking about.
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I`m on prescribed TR (pinned subQ, 2X week) and plan to run this with Win. Has anyone pinned this subQ? If so where do I need to draw on the insulin syringe for the 200 mg week pinning daily.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Primo should be ran at 400mg minium 700 to 800 per week is way better. If you can afford it go for it just got done with 11 weeks at 800mg primo 400 test had some masteron in there and I felt great gained strength put on a few lbs i have ran primo at 400mg and I did see hardness some vascularity but that was it. Winstrol is good at 50mg per day so with test 500 primo 400 and winstrol 50 it will be a decent cycle depending on your goals this Is a cutting cycle but you can put on lean mass if the right calories are there
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AKS User profile
Thank`s for the feedback! I`m looking to put on more lean mass, so I will run the Primo higher.
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Onyx User profile
You should run primo at 700 mg/week and winstrol at 50 mg/week. Good luck!
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nickname_311 User profile
This really needs to be intramuscular. Inch to inch and a half.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
To draw Alpha Primo100 for a 200mg a week daily you would need 28.6mg daily. So this is 0.286ml of a 100mg/ml Alpha Primo. To get 0.286ml, draw the gear to the “30” marking on the insulin syringe. This is to answer you question only friend! I recommend you pin 600mg of primo a week. It`s a Enanthate ester do you can split it to 300mg twice a week. Primo is very mild so it takes a lot to get it going. This is why it is so mild you can use it as a bridge. To pin this much you would need 3ml worth. You cannot pin 3ml subQ! And even if you could, i highly recommend you don`t! Pin test/primo IM. They get into the blood and therefore target organs much faster and can do its job sooner including getting the enanthate cleave off. Go on a 16 weeks cycle with testE at 500mg a week. At the back end of this cycle around week 12 start taking 50mg of Winny and you will dry out and get stronger. Your pump will get better and you will develop a great look! But make sure you get you diet dial in. Lean and clean! I m currently on test500mg, EQ 600mg, Primo 600mg and its great! Starting on my anavar fir 3 weeks of 8 now and my abs is popping at fuk! Expensive cycle but awesome stack! Good luck buddy! And don`t forget to vote.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Primobolan needs to be run 600mg to 800mg for solid results but I would opt for 700mg weekly, and I suggest intramuscular shots. By the way I`ve injected in my delts, frontal, side, rear, chest etc with an insulin syringe with zero issues. As long as the needle is 3/4″ long it will penetrate into your muscle except if you`re very fat or carry fat to a great extent in those areas. At about 20% body fat which is far from lean I recall I personally had no issues whatsoever. Good luck with it man!
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I`m on prescribed TR (pinned subQ, 2X week) and plan to run this with Win. Has anyone pinned this subQ? If so where do I need to draw on the insulin syringe for the 200 mg week pinning daily.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Primo should be ran at 400mg minium 700 to 800 per week is way better. If you can afford it go for it just got done with 11 weeks at 800mg primo 400 test had some masteron in there and I felt great gained strength put on a few lbs i have ran primo at 400mg and I did see hardness some vascularity but that was it. Winstrol is good at 50mg per day so with test 500 primo 400 and winstrol 50 it will be a decent cycle depending on your goals this Is a cutting cycle but you can put on lean mass if the right calories are there
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AKS User profile
Thank`s for the feedback! I`m looking to put on more lean mass, so I will run the Primo higher.
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Onyx User profile
You should run primo at 700 mg/week and winstrol at 50 mg/week. Good luck!
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nickname_311 User profile
This really needs to be intramuscular. Inch to inch and a half.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
To draw Alpha Primo100 for a 200mg a week daily you would need 28.6mg daily. So this is 0.286ml of a 100mg/ml Alpha Primo. To get 0.286ml, draw the gear to the “30” marking on the insulin syringe. This is to answer you question only friend! I recommend you pin 600mg of primo a week. It`s a Enanthate ester do you can split it to 300mg twice a week. Primo is very mild so it takes a lot to get it going. This is why it is so mild you can use it as a bridge. To pin this much you would need 3ml worth. You cannot pin 3ml subQ! And even if you could, i highly recommend you don`t! Pin test/primo IM. They get into the blood and therefore target organs much faster and can do its job sooner including getting the enanthate cleave off. Go on a 16 weeks cycle with testE at 500mg a week. At the back end of this cycle around week 12 start taking 50mg of Winny and you will dry out and get stronger. Your pump will get better and you will develop a great look! But make sure you get you diet dial in. Lean and clean! I m currently on test500mg, EQ 600mg, Primo 600mg and its great! Starting on my anavar fir 3 weeks of 8 now and my abs is popping at fuk! Expensive cycle but awesome stack! Good luck buddy! And don`t forget to vote.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Primobolan needs to be run 600mg to 800mg for solid results but I would opt for 700mg weekly, and I suggest intramuscular shots. By the way I`ve injected in my delts, frontal, side, rear, chest etc with an insulin syringe with zero issues. As long as the needle is 3/4″ long it will penetrate into your muscle except if you`re very fat or carry fat to a great extent in those areas. At about 20% body fat which is far from lean I recall I personally had no issues whatsoever. Good luck with it man!
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Could I stack eq 300 with this, and maybe a small dose of dbol? Probably 20-50mgs a day of the dbol. 300 a week of eq. And 2-300 of the primo. I`ll also be running a test with this. I`m pretty sure the eq and test is fine, but what if I added the dbol?
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
That`s alot of gear at low dosages you would be better off doubling the primo or doubling the eq. And run test at 500. I just got done running primo at 800mg per week with test at 500. And I enjoyed that I have also ran eq at 600 and I really enjoyed that too. They are both very mild so you can run them higher then test. But together that low you won`t see much. Now if you were doing this as a cutting cycle I would say go for it minus the oral. But if your looking to put on mass pick 1 and double it same the other for next cycle. Just my 2 cents
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JohnSmith User profile
Yes you can stack Eq with nearly all compounds. Eq is a great compound to take in combination to cutting and bulking compounds as it has benefits for both goals. I tend to keep the dose at 400mg at a minimum. Also primo is very mild and won`t do much to increase bp as other compounds that could have a negative effect if taking with Eq.
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nickname_311 User profile
I put the EQ up to 600 and call it good
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Potter User profile
I appreciate the feedback, fellas. I`ll probably just drop the dbol for now, and save it for later. I`ve ran eq as high 750mg a week and around 500 of the test. With my body type, and age (41) I`m not exactly trying to put on major mass. Just lean muscle, that I can hopefully maintain once off cycle. I was thinking fbe dbol would be a good kickstart to the cycle, and maybe help with a pre workout. But I would end up dropping it within 4weeks. I`ve always stuck with a test/deca/eq cycles in the past. And used a little tren/mast/testp in my younger days. I`m new to this primo, but I`d like to give it a run
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Potter User profile
Anybody remember the good old days of Reforvit-b? Came from Mexico, but damn you would put on some major size and strength quick.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
I m on test/EQ/primo with anavar in the back end. Great result. 2.5 weeks on var at 60mg and now abs is pronounce as fuk! Test 500mg and EQ 600mg. EQ got to be high. Primo at 600mg also. Both EQ and primo are mild but result are great. This is why you run these two at minimum 16 weeks. Instead of dbol as a kickstart, which is fine but wet, a better compound would be tbol with this stack. tbol doesn`t aromatize so it a dry compound. 40mg a day for 5 weeks and you will be gtg!! Good luck buddy! And don`t forget to vote so a brother can eat!
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it`s been a long time since I`ve ordered primo and it was thicker then test cyp or anything else from what I remember especially loading it in a pin so I just received some primo from alpha and its pretty easy to load and doesnt seem more thick like it was bfor and seems like it`s just like test or cyp my question is how can I tell if this is real cyp besides waiting 8 weeks for it to kick in
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Bob Johneser User profile
Straight legit primo! Also, 24roids wouldnt carry products that are bunk. Hope you see benifits soon!
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nickname_311 User profile
It just depends on the carrier oil some wheels are thicker than others I`ve had the same thing with different testosterones
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
I m using primo200 from Dragon right now and it`s pretty thin. Not as thin as GP but thinner than Dragon EQ500 and it`s tests. So it`s all depend on the carrier oil the gear is place in. I prefer thinner oil than thick since i m pinning testE, EQ500, and primo200 in on syringe. The only way you can find out if gear is legit is to send it in and it run through a HPLC and examine it with a known sample. But 24roids is know for its reputation friend so you are gtg! Hope that ease your mind about legit gear buddy! And please don`t forget to vote.
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BigBro User profile
You can buy a Dave Palumbo RoidTest Test kit. Cost about $50 – 75$ and will have it in a week. It tells you if the gear is real or not. Good luck.
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Breeden81 User profile
Thanks very much I appreciate it where should I go for the test
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DanielOConnell User profile
This company is legit no worries my man.
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Does primobolan cause balding? I`ve noticed hair thinning and can see my scalp more. Is this reversible?? I`ve used finestaride but just cannot handle the side effects. Can I use topicle minoxidle plus topicle finestaride, like more 5% and will it work? What can I use, any help will be appreciated!!
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Stephen Jefferson User profile
You know primo is such a good steroid… unfortunately that`s the Down sideside finersid
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Big Dogg User profile
Ya. Primo is a DHT derivative so MPB is going to be a side effect if you are prone to that. That is not an issue for me but I have heard that primo is especially bad for that. Try topical solutions. Finasteride will not do anything as it is already DHT and doesnt convert to it.
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Taylor User profile
Unfortunately Finasteride wont help if you`re using Primo and already susceptible to hair loss.
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Primo User profile
Sides with primo are very mild, but if your disposed to mpbit a going to speed up and happen with any anabolic. Be careful with finasteride. Taken with nandrolone and it with cause alapecial and make everything fall out.
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ThePony User profile
Not a lot at 4-500mg but still bound to happen especially if taking test or any other drug. proscar with prevent dht converting and binding to the scalp. I use Rogain (2.5%) preventively.
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bob User profile
It is possible yes, all steroids can mess with your hairline friend, I have the same problem but just try not to overthink it
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I already have a high level of testosterone in my body, could I do a cycle using only primo?
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Nah man run some test with it. Try 200mg/week (100mg 2 x week). AAS will shut down your endogenous test production. That`s why all cycles include a test base. If this is your first cycle just use test.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
No. As soon as you introduce any sort of anabolic agent, your body will detect the presence and suppress or shut down your natural testosterone production, causing you to be in a low testosterone state within a 4-6 weeks.
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S-C-J User profile
As others have pointed out, this wont work and will create a bad hormonal situation in your body. Primo is pretty weak anyway, and typically the cherry on top of an elaborate stack of 2-3 other steroids.
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Dromeo User profile
You should always use test as a base with anything you run.
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Big Dogg User profile
I`m assuming you mean natural test and I am assuming you are assuming that as you did not post an actual result from a blood test. That it all irrelevant anyway as the bodies chemistry is far more complicated than that. As soon as you inject Primo (within a couple weeks anyway) your natural test production will stop. Sex drive will crash… as soon as you stop primo you`ll lose any gains or losses quickly.
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Bearcan1 User profile
No, as soon as you introduce and outside compound your natural production will stop.
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Im going going to buy 5 vials of primo to use 500-800mg a week for 8 weeks, should I use something like test cypionate or sustanon and much test should I use.(never used primo before)
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Try and run primo for longer it`s slow 12 weeks would be prime. As for test the more test the more results. A minium of 200mg per week there will be no water retention or other sides at that dosage and perfect for cutting. But if your trying to put on lean mass double it to 400mg per week. If you dont have enough primo for 12 weeks start out at 40g per week then every 2 week s increase by 100m or so until you hit your desired dosage to get a few weeks more out of it
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Will User profile Expert
Test should be the base of every cycle you ever run. So test or Sust as a base would be a smart idea. Nobody here can answer the “how much” question because you didn`t tell us how much you`ve used in the past or how the results were and if you had any side effects. If your last run with Test was a good experience, run it at the same amount. If you had a lot of side effects, bump the dose down. If results seemed only decent and you had a good diet and training routine, then bump test up.
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Bobby User profile
350mg a week or You can go up to 500mg a week without huge sides to worry about. I love a primo stack. Although expensive, I get great results from a longer and consistent Test C / Primo stack. I go to about 16 weeks give it take and usually keep a good amount of the gains after a PCT.
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Drew User profile
Absolutely you 100% want to take test with primo you would want to run it at 400 500mgs a week.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Use 400ml test e weekly split twice bro
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j.b. User profile
yes test is always base for all aas. if your tlying to lean out you should consider test prop because you will hold less water than cyp or enanthate. 100mg eod would be a decant amount, and try to run both for 12 weeks
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I`ve used test before and got really good results but didn`t like the side effects I were looking for something less potent and with the least side effects and one of my friends suggested me to use primo because it is not too powerful and have way less side effects than test, does anyone know if I can trust it, and please comment if you know any other roid with low side effects.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Primo is exspensive and hate to break it to you but you need test in every cycle. That being said try out equipose you can run that at 400 to 600mg per week for 12 to 16 weeks its milder then test less sides. But run a low dosage of test you can get away with 125mg per week for the whole duration. Primo is good but you would need 600 to 800mg per week to grow. EQ is better option for now
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Even with Primo you have to take at least TRT dose of test(150mg-200mg a week). Primo is mild and is one of my favorite steroids. It takes time to work, you have to be patient with it and nail diet and exercise. It works best during cutting cycles because it helps with nitrogen retention and keeps the muscle full on calorie deficit diet. If you want to bulk with it you have to be patient.
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nickname_464 User profile
You didn`t mention what dose of test you ran last time and if you took and ai. Running a low dose of test is going to be the easiest on your system and is why it`s still regularly prescribed by doctors. Try taking less then you took last time and keep an AI like arimidex on hand this time. Best of luck mate.
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Barry Gibson User profile
Primo is mild yes. But all roids inhibit internal testosterone production. You still need to add testosterone to any cycle for your health. Uh b
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gear hair no User profile
It sounds like you was running test way too this.. try running it at half or 25% less than what you rented last time.. i would love to know what you was running it at
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Dromeo User profile
Well anything you run will need to have test as a base. I like test/ DECA/ eq personally. Low sides and great results.
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Does anyone knows if I can trust on this primobolan I used primo before but never from this brand.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
While I haven`t used this particular brands Primo, I have used other products from them and all worked as advertized. I had zero issues with any product I`ve used. But as expensive as primo is, I don`t blame ya for being hesitant. I would personally order it, but if worried maybe try GP, aster or Dragon.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey PH, YES, you can trust Alpha Pharma for sure. It`s my understanding that this lab was actually very to becoming certified as a pharmaceutical brand in its home country but I could be wrong. Plus, 24roids vets all the suppliers it uses and will not stock products until they are verified legit. This is how 24roids has stayed in business so long. Not just anyone can sell their products on here. Thanks for the question
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skitt User profile
I can tell you I have not used Primo but if I wanted to, I would order from this lab.. I have used other products from this lab, such as there test, deca, a dex, clomid and few others and it was very very good, quality and potency was all good.. Honestly you cant go wrong with Alpha Pharma health care..
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Big Dogg User profile
Alpha Pharma is a registered pharmaceutical company. It is definitely legit. Since it comes in a box with insert literature it is also unlikely to be counterfeited.
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Nickname_09 User profile
Yeah bro i trust them my friend has used there tren and test i am going to order some oral`s this week used this lab before legit i would order from them
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Will User profile Expert
Everything sold on 24roids is legit. They are good as screening and quick to remove if a brand starts losing potency in there products.
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How many vials would I need to do a 8 week cycle. (First time using primobolan)
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Dan User profile Expert
You didn`t say how much dose you are planning. If you are planning 100mg per week then take 8 weeks time 100mg. This give you 8000mg. Each vial is 1,000mg. So you need 1 vial. I recommend you get 2 vials just in case…You also lose some liquid as you draw for each pin. The extra that`s left from the second vial can be use on subsequence future cycle.
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Big E User profile
If you were to administer 500 mg per week then five vials would be plenty. You would pin 2.5 ML on Monday and Thursday. Essentially one vial will last you 2 weeks therefore 4 miles will last 8 weeks and you will have one extra vial to allow for waste factor.
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Pookie User profile
How many mgs per week are you taking?? One vial = 1,000 mgs. If you do 500 mgs a week then 4 bottles will last 8 weeks. 250 mgs a week then 2 bottles will last 8 weeks. Primo is semi weak so most take at least 500 mgs a week to feel anything. Good luck
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Primo works best on longer cycles. If you want to do 500mg a week which is a good dose for primo you would need 4 vials of 100mg/ml
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Big Dogg User profile
You`re wasting your time and money to run less than 600mg/week for leas than 12 weeks. There are far more effective compounds although you sont state your goals so I cant recommend any. For 12 weeks at 600/week that is 7200 mg. 7 vials would short you on your last injection. 8 would give you a little extra. Of you`re gonna run an 8 week cycle you need short esters.
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.50 caliber User profile
no offence but sounds like your new new to aas . do some reserch and stick with test your first few cycles. read all you can on q/a