In regards to length of cycle on this. I`ve read to run every day for at least 3 months, but not to exceed 6 months. What is your recommendation on cycles for this? I plan on starting at 300 mcg per day and working up to 500 mcg per day. Thank you
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
All hgh and hgh fragments should be ran at a minimum of 3-6 months, but fragments should not be ran longer than 6 months for the simple fact that there is no scientific studies on the long term effects of hgh fragments.
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I want to try Frag 176-191 to lose body fat. How much bacteriostatic water should I mix into the botter of 5mg?
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Gonna tell you right now you wont loose any bf unless your in a calorie deficit consistently every day. After you get that part down and count every calorie then this product might help burn an extra 10 percent. But if in a surplus of calories you will gain wieght far and muscle assuming your traing hard and eating the right foods
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Traianos123 User profile Expert
2.5 ml bac water will give u 200 mcg at the 10 IU mark, 400 mcg at the 20 IU mark on an insulin syringe.
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Why does HGH frag look exactly like HGH blue tops?I recently received what I though was an order of HGH Blue tops and they look exactly like the pictures of HGH frag, same type of box etc.
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MegaCycle User profile
It could be manufactured by the same company or even a sister company. Several companies released the same products under different names.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
It`s coming from the same manufacturer and the tops have to be a given color. IF the top was grey you would have said it looked like grey tops lol. And how much different do you expect the dry powder to look like.
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Slim3323 User profile
The box and the vile are just what they are, it`s what`s inside that counts. I`ve used the blue tops and dozens of other products from different companies on Naps and all were legit. Naps is the best, have trust in them. If you think there was a mistake, send a ticket to Napshelp and they will get everything straighten out.
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Miller User profile Expert
They are made in China in the same facilities, using the same packaging and everything for all of the profits they manufacture.
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Dromeo User profile
It`s the same manufacturer. If you wanna be sure ask Naps.
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Yes they look similar but u received what u ordered, i am sure of that, like others said they may come from same manufacturer. Both are powders in blue top vials but i am sure if u order HGH blue tops u receive HGH not something alse.
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Whats the dosage range with this??
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Papi1266 User profile
The range is between 250 to 500 a day, but I would start low side and see what the sides are and go from there. Good luck
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nickname_464 User profile
The normal dosage is somewhere between 250mcg and 500mcg daily. Taken all at once or split one dose in am fasting and another pre workout. This can affect blood sugar a little so be careful. Naps has a lot of great real HGH, but this will work too. Best of luck mate.
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novadesert007 User profile
Ive started at 250mcg each time. Sides are real with this one so find your comfort dosage and growth
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RJB16 User profile
Spilt your dose ED at about 200-500 mcg…. As stated start low and watch sides..
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Barry Gibson User profile
About 250 to 500mcg daily. However hgh is good on naps too. Grey tops seem most affordable to me.
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skitt User profile
250mcg to 500 mcg a day.. As stated the HGH on this site has great reviews rather it`s grey, black, yellow, blue or brown tops.. May want to give those a shot in the future.. good luck
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Hello, the other day I asked when I should use frag, during a cycle or during PCT. So this is going to be largely a repeat of what I posted tge other day with follow up questions: As I indicated in my previous question, my cycle is 500mg/week TestE, 200mg/week Deca, 40mg/day Dbol weeks 1-6; same minus Dbol weeks 7-10; 500mg/week weeks 11-12; PCT. I’m in week 7 and making good gains. My waist dropped from 36” to 32” but I jumped from 144lb to 163lb. I don’t have exact fat% but I am guessing 14% or so. I am 5’10”. All but one person said during, while Test was still there. One person said frag does nothing. Searching the web, I see the same things: it works great and it is useless. I can only presume that it does work or I wouldn`t have gotten the suggestions use during my cycle. So, I’m week 7 in my cycle and added frag today before breakfast and some cardio. Then I loaded up on protein and hit the gym. My schedule is for 2 injections/day for weeks 1-3 and 3 injections/day weeks 4-5. 500mg/day week 1; 750mg/day week 2; 1000mg/day week 3; 1275mg/day week 4; and 1500mg/day week 5. This is based on Ducuette`s video and approximates Fit_mom`s pre-contest use. I believe I read that fat loss won’t really be obvious until one gets down to about 10% body fat. For those of you that use it, do you agree that you have to be low BF to see results? Is it possible that those who say it doesn’t work just aren’t at a low enough BF to see its effect. I’d love to hear multiple perspectives, in other words, those with >10% BF that saw results and those who didn’t and those with <10% BF that saw results and those who didn’t. Perhaps I’m overthinking this, but I’m trying to see if it is that it works for some and not others or it works for everyone but is being perceived as not working. Comments please?
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omeed haji User profile
So, there are plenty of benefits that you enjoy when you take natural and safe HGH. But at thesame time, you should not take HGH for PCTunless you have used it in your cycle for 12 weeks because the hormone does not offer any benefits over a short period of time
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
I`m glad you searched the web and saw good things. I also saw that Elvis is living in the white house basement, please try searching reputable medical journals. The body building industry is filled with so much bullshit bro, same as hair restoration, fat loss and male enhancement by and large all is bullshit. As i said before, there really is no science behind this. It may come along at some point but currently i haven`t seen any, i never allow myself to be a guinea pig and try really hard to spend my hard earned money wisely. What does have science behind it and does absolutely work is AAs and HGH, why would you not stick with what works? I`m not trying to be snarky or even say this product does not work, if it does, it is almost certainly not as good as GH which is available right here, and currently there really is no science to say that it does. Even in the ad here on naps they are talking about GH, which Frag is NOT. This is what these people do-bait and switch. If it was a legit product do you think they would need to employ such tactics? I`ve read Rudmans study that they speak of and again it is not about real GH not frag GH, Frag is an analogue. Anyhow, you will do what you want and I`m no ones mom, just trying to save you a few bucks. I keep an open mind so let us know how it all turns out but still i prefer to Think critically and let someone else be the guinea pig.
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Lorddrip User profile
Dr.scott hahahaha let someone else be the lab rat that`s funny hey honestly someone has to start somewhere and test those in charted water good luck
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RJB16 User profile
As stated do not believe this gear is as good as Gh. Naps has a lot of options when it comes to that and when they run a sale it is very affordable…
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nickname_464 User profile
I think it works well especially when body fat is at or under 10%. I also think it works well for packing on muscle in the right situation. I find it is best when taken almost like insulin as it affects the blood sugar to some degree. Hope you`ve had a good cycle. Best of luck mate.
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MIGUEL HERRERA User profile
Is this a insulin shot if so where do you take it
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Hello, I’ve been running a cycle for 7 weeks and have abit to go to complete it. For the record, this isn’t my first rodeo. Also, I am not a big guy, but am making good gains. My waist dropped from 36” to 32” but I jumped from 144lb to 163lb. I don’t have exact fat% but I am guessing 14% or so. I am 5’10”. I ran: Test-E 500mg/wk, Deca 200mg/wk, and Dbol 40mg/day (with lots of liver support) weeks 1-6. I’m into week 7 now and running the same minus the Dbol weeks 7-10. Then I’ll run Test-E 500mg/wk for weeks 11-12 followed by PCT. I want to get that fat down, so what I would like to do is add frag to the cycle. I have calculated everything out so that I can exactly follow Duceutte’s protocol and have ordered and received several vials of frag to get me through Ducuette’s 5-week protocol. My question is when to start or does it matter? Should I 1) start now, 2) wait until I’m done with the Deca, or 3) wait until I am in PCT? Thank you for all your help.
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Big Dogg User profile
I would start now so you have the testosterone to help with fat loss. The Deca wont stip you from losing fat. It probably wont add much water at the dose you`re using. I would suggest 400þweek if you run it again and run it for longer. The long ester wont be fully built up until week 3 or 4. If you wait til PCT to start, your test is gonna drop for awhile and you`re gonna be working against that. Run the frag now and keep your diet tight and training intense into PCT. Maybe run some clen too into PCT to help keep the fat down.
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nickname_464 User profile
You could start now, but if it was me I`d probably wait till I got closer to my PCT. Just because of the potential loss at that time. However if you are able to keep your diet and training on point you shouldn`t have to much loss. After stopping dbol and decca though your going to go through some loss for sure. Whatever you do just keep eating right and training hard. Best of luck mate.
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Lorddrip User profile
Awesome pct choice and Dr Greg is awesome but the way good luck
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EDubz User profile
I would wait closer to the end of the cycle, but thats just me. You could do it either way, I dont think it would really matter. Good luck
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Taylor User profile
It`s really up to you on when you would want to start but personally I`d wait until the end of your cycle to start. Good luck with everything.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Dont believe in FRag or any analogues or precursers virtually no science behind any of them. If the do work it`s in the same way as DHEA or and androstenedione works compared to AAS. They make audacious claims with no real science. What i can tell you does work is HGH and you can reap the frag loss anti aging benefits as low as 2iu a day. no doubt IME. Sure frag is probably much cheaper, i imagine for a reason. Good luck man
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I havent heard any reviews from users who have experienced body fat, only one on youtube who said it doesnt work. Can anyone who has personally used this give a review or link me to some?
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NPCLIFE User profile
Nothing works unless your diet is on point. Add this to your cycle and make sure you track your macros and I promise you great things will happen. There is no magic pill that will shreds you. It’s all in the diet. The answer is yes it works
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Youtube: Fragment 176-191 Secret Weapon Fat Burner for Extreme Cutting Cycles. Dosing, Timing Youtube: My Honest Opinion And Review Of HGH Fragment 176-191 Peptides-ghrp6: Results achieved by users – weight loss, fat burning hope this helps
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nickname_477 User profile Expert
Search greg doucett ifbb pro fragment 176 on YouTube. He swears by this stuff… I don`t know how much of it is true. Keep in mind peopke do and say anything for views
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N88 User profile
There`s two reviews on this product and one guy said it helped lose his love handles. Yes this works but personally not a fan of frag for weight loss. It wont get you shredded magically.
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Canadian User profile
I wouldn`t reccomend hgh for weightloss. Matter of fact I wouldn`t reccomend it at all. Only people who need it are those in their early 50s and up who want to be built like a semi. All you need to lose weight is diet and discipline. But yeah there are reviews of this product on YouTube, afraid I am not allowed to give the link though bud.
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Fit_mom User profile
I`m currently on a frag cycle. I started oct 14 and 500mcg a day split into 2 doses. Before 40min fastest cardio and at bed. I did this for 1 week. I`m now on 250mcg 3x a day 30 min before fasted cardio, evening workout and before bed. I`m currently at 8.8% body fat. Last week I was at 10.5%. Frag seems to work best at this low of a percentage. At least you can see the results. I believe my diet at just over 1600 calories with a 3 day carb cycle is the major factor. The last 2 days I`m up to 350mcg for fasted cardio and workout with 250mcg before bed. I am on other compounds as part of my show prep. Show is nov2. My plan though with frag is taking me to a new level. Does frag alone produce awesome results I dont believe so. I believe it ads a part to a plan. Btw I am using a brand not sold on naps. Good luck
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HGH FRAG 176-191 ? I am well aware I need to be using bacteriostatic water. But I am rather impatient and I was hoping I could suffice on bottled water with a dash of isopropyl or something? I agree Patience is the best solution to this problem but if you could give me a second best solution it would be much appreciated.
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BABA User profile
You are injecting this INTO your body. Your blood stream. Is your overall health not a concern to you? Be patient rather than regretful.
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Fit_mom User profile
You can order it online from a few places. It is not sold on Amazon. You could use sterile water if need be. This is going into your body so you want it to be free of any impurities. Good luck
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E man User profile
If your definitely not going to wait, I would boil bottled water let cool, and use that. But you should probably wait for the bac water
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Dude seriously….if you`re putting something into your body, do it right. Waiting an extra week or two will be worth it. Be patient. Good luck and be smart
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ddc2025 User profile
Bacteriostatic Water for Injection is a non-pyrogenic water solution for injection that contains 0.9% (9 mg/mL) of benzyl alcohol added as a bacteriostatic preservative.It would be beneficial as far both preservation and maintaining an unadulterated final solution. I received it in two days from e bay.You are better off waiting a few days for the laboratory preperation. Why risk creating an inferior final solution when reconstitutin.
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Jasonz User profile
Definitely dont do the bottled water thing you`re talking about mate. Sterile water is the only other alternative to bac water however you dont have much time to use it. Only takes a couple of weeks to get bac water from Ebay. Patience is a virtue!
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This is in response to Jose Perez` question on dosing. I dont feel you recieved proper answers to your question as they are all over the place. HgH frag is not full on hgh. It is a peptide which means it`s just a component of hgh and a very specific component. It only deals in fat reduction. That`s it! You will only see results when your very low body fat say 7 percent and less. For contest prep start 3 or 4 weeks out. You will need to increase dosage each week and pin 2 times a day. The first week 600mcg per day , pinned 300mcg each time. 2nd week 450mcg each time per day for a total of 900mcg each day. Week 3 600mcg 2x a day total 1200mcg. If you go for a 4th week you will be pinning 3 times a day. This protocol gets real expensive but if you looking for the last edge this is it. You will also pin 30 mins after you wake. Then perform your fasted cardio then eat a total of 2 hours from when you pinned. Your waiting for the completion of the release of lipids into your system for the fasted cardio support. There is a good video online if you google the complete hgh frag wording and number. Good luck with your comp. I`m going to run it with my next one in 6 weeks. Really excited about it.
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YD1 User profile
I take every advise fit mom gives. She knows her stuff. I think its about time that she gets the tittle EXPERT! There should be a vote system to vote for the EXPERT tittle. Thanks FitMom your awesome!
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Great info thanks for sharing
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RJB16 User profile
Agreed with fit mom, the component of Frag is the fat cutting coumpound.
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Jaris User profile
Thank youuuu for info and for 2 dollars! Have a nice day
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Greenleanmass User profile
She knows her stuff, she can give good advice , god bless stay safe. Thanks fit_mom.
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Don O User profile Expert
Good response and good on you for helping a brother out.
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What would be a good dosing here amount per day for contest prep
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Md Phd User profile
6iu per day is where I start and dose from there accordingly. Many factors are at play and I don`t know your body comp, weight, age, etc. Keep asking questions
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Tim User profile
250mcg ( micrograms) is the typical starting dosage.
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Bswole User profile
250 to 400 is the normal goose amount.good luck with your contest
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nickname_537 User profile
400mg here for what ive read. However for hgh (not peptide) 4iu daily divided tops.
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Greenleanmass User profile
4 iu divided between the day for food results . Stay safe God bless.
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N88 User profile
250 mcg to 500 mcg a day. Start low and work up. should last 8 days at low dose and 4 day at the highest. Good stiff here.
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I have been reading up on the benefits of HGH.My question would be how do I start out and with what dosage .Do I need to stack with anything and not sure what bac water is.I have noticed alot of answers include BAC water
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mchilds User profile
You should do more research before thinking about gh. Also not sure how many cycles you’ve done but gh increases growth in every organ in your body, not just skeletal muscle. You will get an enlarged heart, kidneys, etc increasing workload on your body. Unless your body needs it, gh can cause more long term damage than good. Having said that, a normal dose is 2-6iu a day for 6-12 months. BAC water is sterile water to mix the amino acid powder (aka high). Do some more research and see what you come up with.
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E-Bomb User profile
Bacteriostatic water is the solution you add to mix the powder. HGH at 2IU a day is a very common starting dose. If you can afford, slowly increase after a few weeks to 3IU and then up to 4-5IU. Really, you`ll benefit with 2-3IU/day. No need to stack with anything, AAS is beneficial to add… however you don`t need to use anything else with HGH. Long term HGH can cause insulin resistance and increase blood sugar, so keeping a lower dose is long term beneficial rather than going crazy and using high dose.
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anonymous255 User profile
Hgh is great. Take 2iu first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Take it five day in a row and then take two days off and repeat. Bac water is sterile medical grade water. You can google and easily order it from many different websites. Bac water is what you will mix your vials is hgh powder with. Buy at least two 100iu kits to get started. Use a 31guage insulin needle and inject into your belly fat.
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Fit_mom User profile
This is fragmented HGH and some people have said it does not work as well as HGH. It is less expensive so that is a draw for some. If your going to go through the 6 month plus use of pinning a couple tims a day, go with the real deal. Good luck.
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Will User profile Expert
Are you wanting true HGH or are you intending to use the HGH frag peptide? They are different and have different benefits. I`d recommend HGH and not peptides. The real thing is better than peptides from me experience.
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nickname_48 User profile Expert
You can buy bac water online legally and they ship domestically. Your typical hgh vial contains 10iu of hgh and comes in a powdery disk form. You mix 5ml of bac water to the vial and gently roll it on the palm of your hand until mixed(don`t shake it because hgh is a very fragile hormone). This way you would get 2iu/ml
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Would the proper BAC water reconstitution be 2ml to yield 2000mcg? Or would it be 1ml to yield 1000mcg? I wasn’t sure if you reconstituted with more BAC water, it would be less potent.
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Tuck87 User profile
Bolth amounts are effective just difernt measurements it just comes down to personal preference
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Dustin User profile
Correct, the potency doesn’t change if you add more BAC water, just the overall dilution strength. So if you have twice as much water, the solution is half the concentration. You may want to look up a reconstitution Calculator, they can be found easily on the Internet and will do the math for you.
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E-Bomb User profile
The mcg would not change… just the ml. 1ml will net 1000mcg, 2ml will net 1000mcg, but you would be using 2x the “solution content” with 2ml of bac water.
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nickname_458 User profile
Yes your math is correct. You can make it more or less concentrated, just depends on your preference.
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nickname_518 User profile
The strength will not change no matter how much water you put in. If it’s 2mg it will be 2mg no matter what. The only difference would be for easier dosing. For example, if u wanted to take a lower dose than it may be easier to add 2ml instead of 1 however it’s reallt personal preference.
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N88 User profile
Good math. if you use small doses go with more BAC water. Itll make it easier to nail down correct dosages.
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Should i freeze this stuff after reconstitution or refrigerate. Is this stuff really effective? Can people share experience
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Jaris User profile
Just keep it in a relatively cold place, dont freeze it, it should be written on the instructions manual
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Will User profile Expert
Refrigerate. Only mix as needed, don`t mix all the vials at once. Once mixing with bac water, it should be good for 3-4 weeks in the fridge.
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YD1 User profile
Please do not freeze.The change of temperature from freezing to thaw will become a problem within days. Just keep it in the fridge. I found it best in the butter section where you can open and close the lid. Good luck.
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omeed haji User profile
no do not freeze any of anabolic or hgh just leave in dry place you will be fine I did freeze my vial one time after that I couldn`t take it
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Fridge only, don`t mix all vials at once with the Bact water, one at a time. Not sure how effective it is, have not ran gh before, sorry bro. good luck
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nickname_768 User profile Expert
The common practice is to put it in the fridge after you mixed it with bac water. I`ve never used peptides simply because they are new, when people sort out the winners after years of try int different ones it`ll try those
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How much would this be if its run for 6 months at 250mcg. How many of these would I need seems like I`d need tons and be rediculious price.
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YD1 User profile
You get 8 days worth running at 250mcg daily from 1 package. So you will need several for 6 months straight. So now you can do the math for 6 months total. If my math is correct 😉 GLuck my friend!
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Given the accurate dose you would need 24 vials to run this for 6 months at 250mcg or .25 mg
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
250mcg x 4 is 1mg..so 8days off 2mg aka 1bottle..let say 1 bottle per week to be safe250mcg once a day with no days off you need 24 – 26 bottles
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anonymous255 User profile
You would need 22.25 vials so go with 23 vials.
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nickname_957 User profile
8 days out of the 2mg
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N88 User profile
My math says 23 vials…go with a few extra just in case. Yup this stuff puts a little dent in the wallet for sure
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SO FOR THE 2MG BOTTLE PAYING $16 BUCKS THAT`S ONLY WORTH 2 SHOTS IF YOU DO A 1MG A DAY?
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Your math is right but your dose is high People run this at 250mcg daily (.25mg) up to maybe 600mcg. Still gonna need a few jugs to do much, but I wouldn`t be whacking a milli a day.. pry start at .25
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
That’s way to high of a dose to start out at, you should start at .25mg or 250mcg and slowly work your way up to a higher dose every few weeks. At .25 starting a bottle will last you around 8 days
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Yes if you want to run 1mg per dose the you will get 2 doses off of 2mgs
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nickname_957 User profile
yes but that is a high dose, start at around .25mcg
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anonymous255 User profile
Correct, but I would run 500mcg per day max.
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nickname_556 User profile
Yes but it can be ran much lower 250 to 500 daily
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Hey what`s the doses range for Fragment 176-191?
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Anywhere from 250 mcg to 1 mg/day, either split AM PM or single dosage first thing in the morning.
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omeed haji User profile
500mcg a day. 250mcg when you wake up on an empty stomach and then 250mcg after your workout/cardio so your body can utilize this product without any glycogen in your system and it needs to be run like a gh cycle 6 months or longer .
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nickname_464 User profile
250mcg to 1mg a day is plenty. If your looking bulk go on the heavy side and if your trying to cut go on the lower side. No matter what you choose be sure to splot your dose up into atleast 2 doses a day. Best of luck.
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anonymous255 User profile
I do 400mcg twice a day on an empty stomach. This has been very effective for me personally.
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Gaingang User profile
I would start at 1iu and then slowly increase the dose depending on how you feel. Everyones bodies react differently, if u increase to 4iu per day and you start getting negative sides decrease the dose slightly
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nickname_556 User profile
259 mgs to 500mcgs twice a day should be very effective start in at 250 then go up to 500
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Hey guys and gals. I have a two part question. First one: Do I absolutely have to use bad water with this product? I’ve used hgh in the past and used distilled water for reconstitution and made sure that I used sterile technique for my storage, injections etc. The second part of my question is will the hgh fragment also help with new cartilage growth like regular hgh or IGF-1 does. I’ve been researching about this and found that both will help with cartilage growth. Please correct me if I’m wrong about this. One of the places that I read this was on this site. Thanks in advance ! I just proof read this and I meant to say bac not bad
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Yes you need to use bacteriostatic water and yes it will help with new cartilage growth.
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Johnny Juan User profile
Bac water is anti bacterial so not a must but definitely a good idea. Although your being safe and sterile, Bac water is fairly cheap and lasts. Long time. I wouldn’t risk not using it with all the money you’ve already invested. Go to ETSY. They sell Bac fairly cheap and quick delivery
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Mtrain User profile
Bac water is sterile water containing 0.9% benzyl alcohol that is used to dilute or dissolve numerous supplements and medications. An added benefit of the benzyl alcohol is preserving the shelf life of that medicine longer. Highly recommend using it
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nickname_537 User profile
Hgh, etc etc, is expensive and it`s indicated to be reconstituted using bactiorastatic water so I would not risk it. Yes it is supposed to aid in cartilage rebuilding.
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N88 User profile
Yes bac water is the way to go and def dont use anything else that will put you at risk. This product will actually help rebuild it also.
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ViktorN User profile
Aseptic techniques is a given when you deal with injection procedures. Bact water is use to reconstitute drug to be injected into you. Bact water is not just water. It prevent from things growing in the vial if your aseptic techniques sucks. Distilled water is not sterile. There’s even water that’s double or triple distilled. Don’t go cheap on this my friend! As for collagen building, I assume it does because it’s rejuvenate your entire body. People look younger because of skin smoothing out. That can only happens if cartilage collagen is being restored. I haven’t done any research on this at the cellular level. Meaning cellular mechanisms. But it’s they experimental data (folks using hgh) that it rejuvenate yourself to a youthful look. Hope that helps. Good luck my friend!
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Hey guys and gals. I have a two part question. First one: Do I absolutely have to use bad water with this product? I’ve used hgh in the past and used distilled water for reconstitution and made sure that I used sterile technique for my storage, injections etc. The second part of my question is will the hgh fragment also help with new cartilage growth like regular hgh or IGF-1 does. I’ve been researching about this and found that both will help with cartilage growth. Please correct me if I’m wrong about this. One of the places that I read this was on this site. Thanks in advance
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
You can use non BAC water IF it`s sterile and IF you inject it immediately after reconstitution. BAC water is used when you want to reconstitute a product and then store it for later use. With cartilage, your best bet would always be straight HGH. I am not sure why you are even looking at these peptides when nothing matches actual HGH.
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N88 User profile
Yes bac water is the way to go and def dont use anything else that will put you at risk. This product will actually help rebuild it also.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Bac water is necessary if you don’t plan on injecting the whole solution right after reconstitution, bac will extend the shelf life of the solution while sterile water or injection solution is meant for immediate injection. This product should help with cartilage regrowth but will pale in comparison to hgh or legit igf1
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Mtrain User profile
Just to reiterate what has been stated, MUST use bac water if you plan on using the product after that one use. The benzyl alcohol helps break down the solution, but mainly prevents the formation of in your solution after the initial use. Best of luck in your journey!
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
You can use any water that you like, but anything other than bacteriostatic water will leave you vulnerable to infection as bacteria can grow in any solution that does not include an anti microbial.
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nickname_537 User profile
You need bacteriostatic water. Also I believe it helps regenerate cartilage also.
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I just mixed my HGH fragment and it looks cloudy. I looked online and it said that this is common. Has anybody else had this issue and is it normal?
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J0539 User profile
Nothing to worry about. Be sure to keep it refrigerated.
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ViktorN User profile
Have no fear my friend!! HGH are made up of amino acids the base for all peptides/proteins. HGH was lyophilized after it was purified. (Freeze dried) those increase the shelf life of the proteins. When you add sterilized water it will be opaque. It will never be clear. Once reconstitutes with water, degradation will begin. Therefore it’s prudent to place your HGH in a fridge. It will slow down the degradation process. I hope that answer your question. And good luck my friend!!
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nickname_963 User profile
This is totally normal. If you use less BAC water, the cloudier it will be obviously as it is not as diluted with using more BAC. The cloudiness should dissipate over a day or so. Like already mentioned, just make sure you refrigerate. Also, don’t try and shake it too much as it may ruin peptide chain and make the HGH less potent.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
This is par for the course. I’d be more worried if it wasn’t cloudy. You’re good to go.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Clioudy HGH frag is normal, it can even be interpreted that you`ve gotten legit frag.
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Maison Jardin User profile
It is 100% normal for your hgh frag to be cloudy after you mix it. If it wasn’t cloudy than you would be worried.
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I’m 18 years old and planning to run hgh for height growth I was wondering how much do I need to take and if this product is injection?
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michael vanacore User profile
first off i wouldnt take growth until ypur about 27 at least. this is hgh fragment not regular growth. and your asking if its injection means you have no clue about what your about to put in your body. i would train, eat and wait to take anything for a long time. read up about this stuff before you take it. hgh frag lasts just a few hours its more of a pre workput and or post workout to increase igf1 levels. regular hgh ia expensive. cheap growth is around 300 generic and real humatrope or norditropin full kit to last is 500 to 700. save your money your not done growing yet. it can negatively affect your growth for the worse. 25 to 27 is tbe age i wpuld wait until. your choice. .
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
You don`t have much time, if any, since growth stops at around 19 years. First off, you would need to buy actual somatropin/somatrem. You`ll need up to 1 IU/kg/week, which, with real somatropin, will give you quite a dent into your wallet. Does spending $700/week to gain, perhaps an inch or 2, if ANY at all since your growth spurs are close to closing, seem worth it to you? I wouldn`t advise, you are too young for any of these things, especially for hormones. Wait till you are 25.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
There is little chance that this product actually makes you taller. If you want some of the benefits of HGH without the added cost then you might want to consider HGH frag.
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john smith User profile
Eat good and train regularly to increase your natural growth hormone.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Well first off this is an hgh fragment and not the full 191 amino acid chain so this product will not help in anyway with height growth because it doesn’t convert to igf-1, that being said if you were to buy real growth hormone you have about 2-3 window before your body will not be able to grow taller anymore because growth stops around 20-22 in most ppl for the purposes of height you would need to run 1-3 iu a day for a 6 month period, this would be a subq injection in the stomach fat area 1-2in away from the naval. For this purpose I would buy real pharma growth hormone which would be very expensive $700+ a week. Most growth studies have shown that subjects that don’t have dwarfism only grew up to 3 inches maximum
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Mike Childs User profile
If you want hgh at 18 yr old I would get a dr opinion. It doesn’t just make your height grow, it also makes your organs grow like your heart and kidneys which can lead to death in a decade or two (ie. Piana, Dallas) Get a doctors opinion first and have some labs drawn to check your pituitary and if they come to the conclusion that it is a gh deficiency then look into finding a cheaper gh alternative source here on Naps.
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I’m Tryng to run this for fat loss and recovery not growth, how much product do I need? Or how long is a cycle or how long can I run? What’s a good dose?
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TB40 User profile Expert
500mcgs daily, split into two doses, once in the morning, once before workout or in the afternoon. Note that this product works better in the ABSENCE of sugars / carbs. This product has not been studied extensively, but no adverse effects have been noted with continuous use, so you can run very long cycles (6 months or longer).
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D-man User profile Expert
Studies have suggested that a typical beginner protocol would be the following:200mcg before breakfast200mcg 30 minutes prior to trainingApproximately 5-7 days a week – subcutaneous injections
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
500mcg a day. 250mcg when you wake up on an empty stomach and then 250mcg after your workout/cardio so your body can utilize this product without any glycogen in your system and it needs to be run like a gh cycle 6 months or longer
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How much Bac water for each of this 2mg vial needs to be added ?
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Steve User profile
I`m using 2ml bac water for this so every .1 on the slin pin is 100mcg. Recommended dosage is 500mcg so it makes it easier when doing this way because 5 clicks is proper dosage. Get more than you may think you need as i found that it is easy to have some squirt on you if you dont pull it right. hope this helps.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
It all depends on the dosage you want to run 2mg=2,000mcg so 10 units on a insulin pen reconstituted with 1ml of bac water will be 200mcg or with 2 ml it will be 100mcg all personal preference.
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Can you stack HGH Fragment 176-191 with HGH 191AA? What is the recommend dosage for 176-191 and the minimum length to use it?
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
You can stack either Somatropin or genotripin with this hgh fragment as this is only a fragmented peptide and not actually growth hormone, the recommended dosage for this peptide is 200-500mcg a day.
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Eddie Haul User profile
200-500mcg is proven to be a very effective dose and can yield even better results stacked with your regular hgh dose.
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T-dog User profile
You can stay any peptides together that you want, the combo that you suggested will have very good muscle growth and fat loss effects. Minimum length of HGH would be around 6 months however for the fragment it would be as long as you need to get to your body fat % goal.
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Is it liquid form or is a peptide
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Tristan
Peptides are supplied as white lyophilized (freeze-dried) powder like HGH, HCG etc.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Almost all peptides come as white freeze dried powder that needs to be reconstituted with bac water.
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T-dog User profile
Most peptides on Naps are in powdered form you need BAC water to mix with and inject.