What should I expect from running 500 mg of test enanthate for 9 weeks and switching over to prop for the last 3? Would letrozole be a stronger AI than arimidex and how would I dose that with my test?
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nickname_75 User profile
Why do you want to switch to prop in the end of the cycle, makes more sense to use prop in the beginning of the cycle for a kick start and than use the long ester at the end because even when you stop injecting the ling ester is still going to be active in your body for at least 2 more weeks and you can still take advantage of that last period of time.
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BillySantos User profile
If I switch to prop from enanthate at week 9 then I’ll dry out and lose a lot of the water weight that comes from the enanthate, prop doesn’t make you hold on to as much water as enanthate does, also if I switch over then I can pct sooner and not risk shutting down as bad
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Traianos123 User profile
Test is Test, u can change ester but make no sense to change from a long acting ester to a short one. As AI dont use Letro, better use Arimidex (Anastrozole) 0.5mg twice/week or if u take more compounds at higher dosages 3 times/week, but many guys even they dont use at all, listen to your body.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
Letrozole is much stronger then arimidex, it is a suicide inhibitor and considered chemotherapy (look it up if you dont believe me). i am of the school of thought that letrozole cannot be used safely with gear for a number of reasons, but primarily it depletes estrogen completely and effectively even at quarter dose. I dont begin a serm or an AI until i am symptomatic and then i always begin with nolva (for gyno), it works almost immediately (the pain stops within a day or two) and doesn`t mess with the actual estrogen levels if you are still having problems begin arimidex not letro
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MattBeard User profile
Well, however you look at it you will see decent gains as you tend to with 12 weeks of test but it will be out of your system quicker at the end. Unless I`m missing something as said above surely you should use prop at the start to get it into your system quickly? As for AI, let is to strong imo, and at 500mg you may not need to use anything, I don`t at 500mg test, estrogen will obviously be elevated but if not experiencing sides that`s no bad thing.
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JohnCummings User profile
I personally like using Aromasin opposed to arimidex. Adex does not take aromataise out of the body, it inhibits the binding of it. Aromasin or examestane eliminate some aromataise without completely nuking your levels the way letro will.
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If you`ve been on trt for ten years along with cycling on and off steroids, will taking hcg and possibly clomid allow you to have kids?
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Joeskee User profile
It`s definitely possible but I would take hmg and hcg at the same time and u will have a better chance.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
If i could answer that question definitively i would need to charge you $30,000 like the fertility clinics do! 🙂 As long as your testes produce sperms you will be able to have children. You only need one! That being said, yes taking hcg and then go on a proper pct will help you get your natty back. The less time your testes get shut down the less chance your testes “stop” working. In other words, you want to take care of your huevos. And using hcg and clomid will help them. But no one can guarantee you. Just be mindful that people not taking gear still can`t have kids as well. Just because you on gear doesn`t mean you can`t have kids. I hope that doesn`t scare you but convince you to do a proper pct and you will be gtg especially when you incorporate hcg Prior to your pct! good luck. Don`t forget to vote.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
There are total hormones you need to focus on LH and FSH. LH Is responsible for testosterone production but if your main concern is fertility you have to focus on FSH. HCG mimics LH and makes testicles produce testosterone, FSH on the other hand is responsible for Sperm production. Clomid makes the brain produces FSH and LH together . There`s a compound called HMG it`s quite expensive, it mimics FSH and increase increases sperm production and is the most effective. You pin 75Iu eod for a few weeks along with hCG and Clomid.
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Jrawk User profile
Most likely. Clomid and Hcg and time. Some say Hcg and Hmg will do the trick, even on cycle!
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
According to my TRT octor, that`s exactly it. He prescribes HCG to aid in testicular function and sperm production. My TRT programs includes HCG for this reason. Good luck and don`t forget to vote.
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POOKIE2 User profile
Absolutely! If you were fertile before taking gear (some are not) then its highly likely you can get it back. I have friends that ran gear for 20+ years with almost no cruising and they were able to get fully fertile again. Good luck
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
That`s encouraging. So they basically blasted for 20 years and still regained fertility?
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POOKIE2 User profile
They did and have kids. That one guy on RX muscle youtube was a bodybuilder for a few decades and took clomid/HCG and now had 2 or 3 kids. He talks about it and is fully fertile now
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JB205 User profile Expert
So I just had this conversation yesterday with a guy I workout with and he`s getting married soon and his girl keeps talking about having kids but he`s been on gear for several years ( TRT, test sust, test prop, Tren A and E, Deca, Dbol, and Provirin). So he had a semen test done while still on a Test sust and Tren E cycle just to see what his sperm count was, the lab called him back and informed him he needed to come back in because he only produced 7, yes just 7 sperm total. He came off cycle and went on a PCT ( clomid, nolvadex, HCG) for 3 weeks and took another test which then produced several thousand sperm. So maybe this gives you some hope, good luck bro.
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thanks, sorry to reiterate,if I plan on 500mg per week for 12 weeks, one of these packs would cover 5 weeks? therefore, I would need another 2 pack and would have some leftover?thank you guys
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RJB16 User profile
Yes you will have some leftover if that is the amount you will run over a 12 week cycle…
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MegaCycle User profile
Yes, you will have some extra but make sure you get extra. You never know what will happen. Several people have dropped a bottle during their cycle and it broke and then they were short on the amount they needed. Having extra is a good thing.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
YEAH MAN 5 WEEKS SO FOR 12 WEEKS YOU WILL NEED JUST OVER 2 VIALS MAN FOR 12 WEEKS
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
You have enough for for 15 weeks up to you to save the rest
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Yep you`ll need 24ml. You`ll have some extra for next time or give some to the family pet. Cheers
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EDubz User profile
Yeah I always get at least 3 vials for any cycle. In this case you will have some left over but nothing wrong with that. Better to have extra, than not enough. Good luck
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Guys, If I want 6000mg for the course of 12 weeks, how many packs of this would I need? (3 packs?)thanks.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
2 bottles for 500 for 10 weeks so ya I guess 1 more should do it
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John User profile
Im Assuming you mean 600mg a week. They would be 7200mg. 2500 mg per bottle. That would be 3 bottles
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Yup 3, well actually about 2 1/2. 2,500mg/vial –so 2 full vials and 4ml out of the 3rd.
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Matt Beard User profile
At 500/week each bottle would last 5 weeks, allowing for going slightly over 3 would cover you fine.
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RJB16 User profile
You are correct you will need 3 bottles for that amount.
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MegaCycle User profile
3 bottles is correct but you always want to have a little extra so that`s fine. It`s better to be safe and have some extra then to be short.