I started my cycle March 1, so I`m about 5 weeks in – 500 test e and 300 tren e. Everything went well training hard as ussaul then bam 3 weeks into the cycle just as it kicked in all gyms shit down for covid 19. Now I can`t do cardio as I have to work from home and cannot go outside in my county, I do 400 push-ups a day, 300 air squats, I only have 30lb dumbbells (I usually use 70s at gym) so been blasting every excessive I can with it on verrrry high reps. Also been useing a little very limited home gym system. if I stop my cycle now as I don`t see the point since gains will be minimal and I cant beast out at the gym to get my kind of gains, should I even run a pct if I stop since it was so short of cycle? If so should it be shorter? (I have all full pct on hand Nola and clomid). Or do I need to keep going to at least X number of weeks before stopping?
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Vlakas User profile Expert
It’s your choice but this is what i did, I was on 1 month so I stopped and started my trt and try to train at home, when this is over I’m gonna start another cycle so 1 month on 1 off then restarting, let the receptors refresh bro
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Heavy Lifted 91 User profile
Why don`t you just cruise with a low dose of test? I have a pretty similar cycle I was doing and ran into the same issues. I`m just going to cruise for 2 months and blast back to it. No point in trying to come off, and go right back on.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Dylan, good idea to stop the cycle. That`s what I did too. After 5 weeks YES you should run a PCT. You may not need an agressive one so a big of HCG and clomid for 3-4 weeks should bring you all the way back. Thanks for the question
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JMann User profile
Absolutely run pct like you would have. If you don’t you will lose gains, and crash. No sense in being on a bunch of gear when you can’t train hard. I would just rest do what you can and clean out.
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traianos123 User profile
U can use a low dose of test, a trt dose until gyms will open again or u can stop your cycle, second choice i think is better, at least like this u will not waste the gear. If u use only Nolva it will be enough, i think is still better u run Nolva 4 weeks, 40/40/20/20.
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Tony User profile Expert
Tren shuts you down hard, you have to run a pct if running any amount of gear for more than a month. Blast HCG for 2 weeks and then clomid/nolva for a few weeks should be enough.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
You can if you want most people dont fully understand PCT it is to avoid the symptoms of low T caused by suppression of your natural test from your gear thats it ,the rest is magical thinking. Unlikely this has occurred in a few weeks but if you feel like it do it, or do like i did. I dropped to 200mg susta a week and 2iu/day HGH, focus on cardio and low weights high reps (its all i have) and ride it out.
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Great answers and suggestions on my last questionWinnie & All orals:Any yes I take Liv 52, Liver Cleanse and Milk Thisle whenever I use oralsIt maybe overkill but better safe than sorryAny thoughts on Cut 150 or at least I think I got it right I maybe wrong on the name but I`m sure that you well versed guys & girls know what name & compounds im referring to:How many vials needed for a quick cycle and what dosage do you recommendAs usual you have been a huge help & greatly appreciated!
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Cut blends User profile
Cut blends are test prop; tren ace; and mast prop. I use these every time o go into a prep/show. I run 350 a week. That`s 1 ml a day or 1.75 eod. I run this from 7-8 weeks. You can run it for 6 and have a great short cycle. I use 4 bottles. Aster from Europe makes a 300 blend, which has 100mg of each compound per ml. But you made find the molecular weight fairy heavy which causes pip; pain and bad reactions. I feel like I`ve been hit by a bat wherever I inject these blends and the muscle is tended dead and useless for a few days, plan accordingly: I find injecting everyday instead of more eod reduces this.
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Pookie User profile
Are you talking about cut mix 150 by DP? Personally don`t like this blend bc the mast prop isn`t in the right proportion with test p and tren ace. Mast needs to dosed at a much higher ratio to get better effects on hardening and SHBG. Also you`ll need to pin at a minimum 1 ML a day which means a vial will last 10 days-ish and still a baby cycle…you`ll need a lot of vials for a cycle.
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mic User profile
what the others said bro, tren and mast its a great cutter
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bob User profile
to cut man test tren winny can also use proviron and masteron
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Barry Gibson User profile
I`ve not done this yet as I`ve heard masteron is for those already cut to about 10% or less bodyfat, but I`m at 17% or so body fat so I cannot tell you from personal experience but from general reading the 1st post seems right although you`d need to probably add about 100mg to as much as 200mg more masteron on top of what`s already recommended man. Be sure you`re around 10% body fat or your wasting money because masteron does nod add muscle, it only hardens it up and you cannot tell unless already very lean to begin with.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Probably 3 vials pin every other day last you 6 weeks or so diet hard for this not really a mass buikder supposed to make muscles fuller and harder at lower bf
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Or a simple:Tren Enanthanate 100 Sustanon 250 WinnyWhatd you guys think? please let me know if you like the cycle. And at what dosage is do you feel works best. And if course if you guys have a cycle for like for cutting and hardening with a clean diet please do not hesitate to let qme know thanks so much fellas
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Dromeo User profile
I would run the tren at 400mg a week and the sustanon at 400mg also. I would run this combo for 10 weeks and add the winny into the mix at week 5 or 6.
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Pookie User profile
If you`re gonna use sustanon stack tren ace with it pin EOD. You can do a 1:1 or go low test and moderate tren.
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Test n tren User profile
This cycle is great to add on mass or get lean as possible! It will determine greatly on your diet and training. If looking to cut, add in 400mg of mast per week. And maybe 50mg of oral winny per week the last 4-5 weeks. to bulk you can front load with Dbol, and back load with anadrol.
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Bobo User profile
I agree with test n tren man so good luck on that cycle
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RJB16 User profile
Sust and Tren will be good just be aware of the side from Tren…
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
A good cutting cycle all you Need is 200mg tren per week 200test per week. With strict calorie deficit. Alot of people use high dosages but if your goal is muscle preservation then low dosages is all you need. Now if you want to put on mass double dosage on both and be in a surplus. I always add cardio on tren usually before I even start it 15 minutes a day dose wonders. Cardio actually should be done by every one that dabbles in aas on or off
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Received 2 bottle of teen E from para Parma and same lot number and exp. date and they are totally different color oil. This in my opinion is a problem they are drastically different. What do I need to do??
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Atesrn, this does sound a bit strange and is something I would bring to 24roids` attention. Although different color oils or pills generally are not something to be concerned about since these UGLs have various reasons for changing carriers, shape, color etc. the fact that they are apparently the same batch is a bit suspect. Tren has a very distinct amber kind of color. Maybe put them side by side with a vial of test to show the difference and ask 24roids what they advise. Thanks for the question
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John Porco User profile
That is odd. It could be the cold weather that affected the gear. You can try to heat them both up with some warm water and see if that helps. Best thing to do is contact 24roids. They have great customer service and will help you with your situation
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Siggs User profile
That is odd. I have had a slight color change in products but I have never had a color change in the same shipment or lot number. Contacting 24roids would be the best option here.
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JB205 User profile Expert
So you said teen E, I`m not sure if you meant tren or test. I have seen test cyp bottles from DP and GP come with this issue, same lot and exp. Date. 2 of the vials seemed to crystallize and it changed the color when I warmed them up, but I`ve never seen tren do anything like that. I would contact 24roids.
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nickname_464 User profile
I agree, I`ve never had things be different when they had the same lot number. Just take pics of the bottles and of the packaging it came in and contact 24roids help. If there is a problem they will correct it. However we have to remember these are underground labs and not pharma grade. So it is probably just a different carrying oil. You can always get a roid test off of Amazon for cheap and it will tell you what`s in the product, not the dose but at least you`ll know what`s going on. Best of luck mate.
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Michael Vasquez User profile
I`d contact 24roids and provide pictures.
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how much of a dosage do need per wk. and how many bottles for a 10-12 wk cycle
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
400 mg a week if just using this.pin 1ml every 3 days. Might want to run test E 2x a week 500mgs will be a nice 10week run . Get 2 10ml bottles each
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Gman User profile Expert
In my opinion, and every one is differnt. I would run it at 200mg per week for the first time along with test either 250mg per week or 500mg per week. Tren e can effect everyone differnt 1 bottle 1 cc per week I would split the dosage 2wice per week. Many on here may say run it at 400 or 500 per. But you dont know this beast. At 200mg per week I got night sweats and acne. Some people experience some of the sides that others dont. 200 per week for first time is plenty next time up it to 300 or 350 remember it is approx 5 times stronger then test. I have found the more injects per week the more stable blood levels the less sides for me. Good luck keep diet tight
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KTUCK User profile
Tren is very strong if you never ran it before start at 200 to 300 mgs a week for 10 to 12 weeks wich would be 1 or 2 bottles also run it with a test base
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Will User profile Expert
Your dose depends on if you`ve taken tren before. If you have, you just slightly increase the dose. If you havent, start at a very low dose like 200mg and see how your body responds and how you react to the drug. Then you have a to decide how long you want to run tren. If 200mg a week for 15 weeks, then you`ll need 2 vials of Tren 200 and take 1 cc a week. You`ll have 5 cc left over.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
2 weekly injections for 400mg/week. 2 bottles will get you through 10 weeks.
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mchilds User profile
I did 350 a week (50mg/day) on my first cycle with it. So if it works out to 400 with the concentration then I think that won’t be bad. But I also agree that starting off with lower doses is best. If you need to start at 250 then taper up you should be able to gauge what your body can handle after a few doses. Then taper accordingly. Everyone is different
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How many weeks do bodybuilders usually take tren e and in what amount? should I take 200mg for 10 weeks or 400mg for 5 weeks?
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smalldres User profile
8-12 weeks. You can run it up to 16 weeks but trenbolone is one of the harshest drugs on the body.
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ROBERT User profile
I wouldn`t go over the 12 week mark. If you overdue it the possibility of side effects being much greater are probable. Good luck!
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anonymous User profile
200mg a week for 10 weeks is more reasonable, see how your body reacts first then increase the dosage
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Mike Childs User profile
At 5 weeks you will most likely lose the majority of your gains so it should really be run a bit longer. I do 350 for 8 weeks and that’s my sweet spot. But if this is your first time using it start off at 200 and see how your body reacts.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Either is a solid option as long as you run a test base with the tren, and the test run is alteast 10weeks. The 200mg a week will definitely deliver some results and you can get some experience with how YOUR BODY responds to tren. If you whack the 400 mg and start with some bad sides, your in for a three week ride. For that reason I usually recomeded tren ace for a first dip with tren. My advice, run 350 mg test a week with 200 mg tren, if a 6 weeks, you can still sleep without ruined sheets from sweat, bump it up to 300. Don`t forget your AI for the test and some caber for the tren.
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Don O User profile Expert
Tren E is usually used for 8-12 weeks but the dosage definitely depends on your previous experience and can be as low as 150mg per week up to 700+mg per week for very experienced individuals. Of the two options youve listed 200mg per week for 10 weeks will probably be the right choice, even at that dose theres still quite a bit of physique transforming power in there.
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Is taking 200mg of tren e a week has the same punch as taking 200mg tren ace a week?
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john smith User profile
Tren e you have to inject every 4 days, but tren ace has to be injected eod. Because its fast acting ester you get hit with what ever dose at once
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Mike Childs User profile
Ace will technically give you a faster “punch” as you say. Some may argue but enanthate would be a longer onset as well as a longer duration so gets into your system smoother unlike ace hitting you like a freight train. Some love that about ace and some hate it.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
The ace delivers more actual trenbolone per mg. This is because the esters have different weights. Ace is a tren molecule with a fatty acid with three carbons attached to it. The tren e has 7 carbons. This results in a different weight of ester, in each my of the drugs. Because the ace is lighter, a gram of tren ace has slightly more tren than tren 3.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Acetate contains 87% of trenbolone, while enanthate contains only 70% of the actual hormone. Acetate will have a bigger punch on mg to mg basis, and it will also work faster.
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Micheal Ervin User profile
Tren a will give more bang for your buck but clears out faster while tren e will give you a nice steady punch
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evan johnson User profile Expert
As previously mentioned acetate is slightly stronger. However, that being said enanthate is quite potent as well and your gains won`t be that much different if you do not wish to inject at least eod.
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Since this is Tren E, does it take 4 weeks to build up in your body like test E in order to see results, if not how until it kicks in and how long until its out of your system?
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Anavar User profile
People usually see results after the first week with tren E
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ROBERT User profile
Tren Enthanate is released slower into the body. So it take may take longer for it to start with results. Tren ACETATE is actually stronger than TEST Enthanate. ACETATE offers smaller ester and occupies a smaller space. I would also suggest taking Testosterone along with this.
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Mike Childs User profile
You can see results by your 2nd dose of e. It’s slower onset but not like deca or anything. Think of test e vs. test prop. Same concept, just different drug. Could take a month or more to get out of system if getting drug tested for a comp.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Tren is powerful shit, you will know you are on by end of the week. The enethate ester doesn`t take a moth to build up, people just think you should feel every shot you inject. If your running 300 mg a week you will be steady blood by 20 days or so. Look at a half life calculator. Roid calc is a good one.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Given the use of an enanthate ester, this drug will exhibit virtually identical pharmacokinetic to testosterone enanthate, providing a peak release of its steroid within the first several days after injection, followed by declining levels for approximately 2 weeks.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Both lav and anon are correct, tren e is pretty similar to test e in that it builds up slowly in your system but you will feel tren e much quicker than when you get the “testosterone kick” due to the fact tren is 5x more powerful than testosterone. Test starts working immediately but it takes 3-4 week to “feel” the results.