Do you think it could be estrogen related side effects
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Hello again donbrooks, some muscle pathology is set off by increased inflammation in muscles during estrogen fluxes. The pain from increased swelling and muscle pain causes more muscle contraction and an increase in muscle tone. It is possible for this to be an effect but are you sensitive to estrogen bloating and other sides? Have you checked for breast tissue? also i must offer that in extended periods of high cortisol and low estrogen causes muscles to tighten and become fatigued. Low-levels of progesterone also tend to cause muscle tension as progesterone has a calming effect on the body and mind. I do believe I suffer from low estrogen and high cortisol and have been for a long time so this must also be considered for your health as well. You could go out and get an endocrine hormone panel done with all the hormones but you may likely need a recommendation from your doctor. Let me know if this helps and I hope it does! Stay healthy, safe and live well bro! Don`t forget to vote for q&a and product of the week! Reply if you need to.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
What exactly are you saying is estrogen related? If you are having puffy nipples that is estrogen related if you retain water that is estrogen related if you are extremely tired that maybe estrogen related. The best thing to do is go get a blood test and see where your estrogen is at.
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Onyx User profile
Hi brother, puffy nipples and water retention could be estrogen related. Use nolvadex or AI. I wish you luck and a successful cycle.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Hey Don, please reply with your question elaborated so we can give you better advice. Thanks and good luck.
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Yeah I can`t walk a thousand feet without my back and my calves getting so tight and painful I have to sit down I like to think that I`m holding too much water in the muscle and it`s swelling up or the pump from the testosterone is too much not really sure what it is you think I should see a doctor
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anonymous_1212 User profile Expert
Hello donbrooks, the calf problem has happened to me a bit and it is due to 3 factors: 1.) Low potassium in the cells and blood. 2.) Low magnesium in the cells and blood. 3.) Not properly hydrated. You may ask: well how do I get more minerals without over eating tomatoes, potatoes, nuts and bananas? Well to start Bananas have too low of potassium compared to potatoes and tomatoes so try that first. Above that what I really suggest, you can get two problems solved at the same time here, is to go out and either get a water distiller or a Reverse Osmosis filter. Get “concentrated sea mineral drops” from amazon, `Now Foods` Potassium Chloride powder and `Now Foods` 400 MG Magnesium caps. Put 10 drops of the sea minerals in the RO or distilled water with 1 teaspoon of Potassium chloride and also you can use the potassium chloride in a salt shaker as well. FYI 1 teaspoon of the powder is 8%, humans need a lot of potassium! With the magnesium make sure it has multiple forms for better absorption. There is also one called `Magnesium Transporters` by ‘Now Foods’ but I find I have to use more Magnesium with it because it is only 120 MG. This is what I use for myself because I not only get cramps, I also get spasms! They are very painful indeed and it’s also a sign of over-worked stressed muscle cells. A lot of spasms and cramps have to do with lost R&R. This is what I do to help myself bro and I must offer this as well; reduce caffeine intake to as low as possible. Meaning replace coffee with tea, replace energy drinks and pre-workouts with water and tea. Also, this will reduce stress and therefore reduce cortisol and adrenaline levels that deplete minerals so quickly. Let me know if this helps and I hope it does! Stay healthy, safe and live well bro! Don`t forget to vote for q&a and product of the week! Reply if you need to.
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Joeskee User profile
Either u can stretch or ice ur legs every once and a while and I`m hoping u drink a lot of water. But it should go away soon cause I get the same thing in my arm when I get back on test but don`t worrry it`s normal. Everybody experiences different things.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
I`d say increase water intake, increase your potassium as well. But alongside stretch good to prevent cramping and promote flexibility.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Potassium magnesium zinc. Is it like cramping or is it just like hard and hurts? If it iss cramping make sure you are well hydrated.
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Onyx User profile
Potassium magnesium zinc.? Make sure you are well hydrated. I wish you luck and a successful cycle!
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So I`m on my fifth week UPS 500mg a week and when I walk my calf muscle is in my back muscles tighten up so bad they hurt so bad that I can`t walk is it just water buildup is it normal has anyone ever had this problem I`m in a lot of pain
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Donbrooks, make sure you are hydrated and stretching. I experience this on a daily, so I use a tennis ball or foam roller to really get into the muscle, bring blood flow to it and it should loosen up. Don`t overthink it bro, all is good. Not saying you did this, but I know some people pin in their calves….it just doesn`t make sense to me. Calf anatomy can be tricky and I would avoid this. Good luck
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Could be holding water or just a lot of blood pumping to the calf when walking you can try to take arimadex .5mg twice a week or you can lower your dosage drink lots of water stretch other then that not sure
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nickname_238 User profile
Sounds similar to shin splints, it’s when you over work the muscle, tendons, and body in the calve. If you have changed your leg or calve work out recently l would back off a little and let your body get use to the new stimulus you are giving it. If you are taking pump products like nitric oxcide, or others, they could be inflaming the over worked muscle group. I had bad pumps in my calves before from Dbol from just walking.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Increase your water intake because it in turn signals your body to expell extra water reducing bloat and hopefully cramping while staying adequately hydrated. Increase potassium, think bananas and supplements etc. Definitely stretch too. It should be a 1, 2, 3, punch.
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So my next cycle I want to inject intramuscularly in my delt , I just want to know if I run the same risk of hitting a vein or blood vessel in my thigh as I would in my delt. I just want to make sure I do it at the right spot .. I know about aspirating so I`m not that much of a rookie at this method. (I did subq last cycle & I got shit to baby results)
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Bob Johneser User profile
Why delt? If its esterfied test, thigh is better. But winstrol makes sense as it can cause local growth. Ive done boldenone at least 10 in each delt with no issues.
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nickname_464 User profile
The best and easiest place for intramuscular injections is the glutes. Look it up on YouTube and watch a couple videos. They will show you in detail each step to a successful IM injection. You can inject in the delts much easier then the thighs. Don`t inject more then 2cc at a time in each delt for best comfort. Hope this helps. Best of luck.
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nickname_238 User profile
Yeah intramuscular is the proper way to inject steroids. As long as you hit the meaty middle part of the delts you will be fine. I always rotate glutes and delts. You will not run the risk of hitting nerves and blood vessels like in your legs. For a reference Point search site injections and you can see a detailed picture of the muscle group, for proper injections. Good luck Take care.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
If you google injection sites, a ton of info will pop up and many sites provide instructions. I`d start there. Also, make sure you use the thinnest needle you can get away with. I draw with 22ga and shoot with 25ga. You`ll thank yourself for that. Good luck bro.
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skitt User profile
I use glutes and delts myself.. Yes some can do thighs but I have ran into to many guys having issues with thighs even after cycling for years.. I would use 25 or 27 gauge for delts all depending on BF% and size and no bigger then 1 inch.. I use insulin syringes quit often on my delts and have had NO problems at all.. As others have stated high the middle part of your delts, the research I have read is you don`t want to do the front side of the delt as that is were there is more nerves.. Not sure how much but I cant say I have tested it to see either lol so I aim for the middle fleshy part works every time.. Nickname 238 and 464 have good info.. good luck man
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Jason123 User profile
I absolutely love lat injections. You can do 3 cc easily with no issues. It is such a large muscle group that I`ll do 3 cc`s in each lat twice a week. Everybody should really try it. Delts always seem to be uncomfortable when I train shoulders close to an injection day.
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Does anyone know where this ships from. I`m looking for something that doesn`t take too long. Domestic would be great.
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Barry Gibson User profile
Different brands ship from different places man but as a matter of fact the same brand can ship from multiple places in for the sake of safety from customs
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Big Dogg User profile
Para Pharma is a European lab but where it ships from depends on what warehouse it is in. Para Pharma is a good lab though. Shipping is hit and miss right now no matter what you order. 24roids has a limited domestic section but this want in there last I checked.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Ships from europe at the most 30 days from order usually 18 days. Good brand. If you want domestic goto go with lab it shops in like 5 days its domestic in the u.s I believe. But it is new not very many people have had a chance to test it out but cant go wrong with 24roids
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Swoleville User profile Expert
I just placed an order 3 days ago and tracking number says its coming from Malaysia
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novadesert007 User profile
Ukraine. if you want fast domestic refer to …. New labs 5-10 days
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Franky User profile
How confident are you in ..? As far as shipment and red flags etc
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Dan User profile Expert
Most gear come out from Malaysia lately. Average time is 3 weeks. If i were you and need gear asap i would try to order from the lab in the states, .
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BDiese User profile
You guys answering with where the packages are coming from are dumb fucks…plain and simple. This stupid reward system they have for answering questions brings out the shithead bottom feeders for sure.
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Is ok to pin 375mg every three day …in same spot delt pinning with this brand para pharma so a ml..and a half every time i pin
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Big Dogg User profile
I would pin other spots. Delts are easy but not the best spot for absorption. 1.5 ml on each shoulder every week is too much in my opinion. If you`re big enough you could probably do 2ml per delt but not every week
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Big B User profile
I Would Definitely Rotate Your Delts, Better Yet, Also With Your Glutes & Upper Thighs. That`s Just To Much In Ur One Delt In My Opinion..
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MegaCycle User profile
Typically delts can only handle about 1ml before people start to notice issues. Lats and chest can both take 2-3ml without issue. Glutes and quads can handle 3ml as well
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Your delt really can`t take more than 1ml. If you`re new….close to 700mg a week is high. Do 1ml per delt every 3.5 days. I rotate delts and glutes so I hit only once in a week.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Yep can do a lot more if you want.
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BABA User profile
Alternate injections sites to the point that you do not inject one area more than 1 time per week.
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This question is based on vials NOT BOUGHT FROM 24roids. This is not a review or comment on 24roids or anything they have supplied to me.Anybody else come up short with Para Pharma Test E 250? I`m pinning 250 ml twice a week, but only get 3.5 weeks from a vial instead of 5 weeks. I`m dead-on 1ml per pin.
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Big B User profile
That`s Pretty Strange Bro. Some Bottles Will Be A Little Short Sometimes, IMHO. But Thats Whey To Short.
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.50 caliber User profile
That just typical bullshit that fans of other sites and forums put out to bring their business up. I no that is untrue because I have bought many many vials of different oils from 24roids and I’ve never been shorted neither has anyone I no personally. If something like this was to happen I’m sure 24roids would make it right
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Unc33135 User profile
Thats a big difference. Id be able to tell its that short just by looking at it. Sometimes theyre over or under by a half of ml but thats the most ive ever noticed. Im assuming the seal wasnt tampered with or you would of said that.
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Bob User profile
I have used the same one and never come short, who knows what’s going on
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Jd D User profile
I come up short but never that short doesn`t seem right
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Simonak User profile
They may have had some removed, and then resealed. Generally I can look at a multi dose vial and tell if its around 10 mls or not. I wouldn`t get anything fromthem again, and stick with 24roids.
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How many bottles would i need if i’m doing 500mg per week for 12-14 weeks
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NPCLIFE User profile
What are you taking? How many mg per ml? You have to do the math. 250mg would be 2 10ml bottles for 10 weeks.
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Taylor Pendley User profile
3 bottles. 250mg/ml times 2 per week. 2ml per week. 5 weeks per 10ml bottle. 3 bottles equals 15 weeks.
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K-Nine User profile
Yup 3 vials. 250mg/ml at 10ml/vial. 500mg/week equals 5 weeks per vial.
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nickname_610 User profile
One vial is for 5 weeks, 3 vials for 15 weeks .
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Swolebro User profile
3 vials bud. 2500 mgs per vial. 500mgs per week would give you 2500/500= 5 weeks per vial.
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swoleville User profile
It would be 3 bottles sir
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What needle size would you recommend injecting, do i need estrogen blockers and which for the test, thinking about 250 for 10 weeks. And where would i get needles etc
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BABA User profile
Use 25 gauge to inject and 20 gauge to draw. You can also inject with insulin needles subcutaneously. Many guides on this online. You should have arimidex, nolvadex and hcg on hand before beginning your cycle. 10 weeks is too short for a cycle. You need at least 12-18 weeks for good results.
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E man User profile
I would use 25g 1″ works good for me. Gpzmedlab. Might wanna order 18g to draw with 25g to inject
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nickname_802 User profile
I prefer 25ga 1″ to inject and 18ga to draw. 18 gauge you can draw quick. If you live in the US, you can get packs of 100 for pretty cheap on amazon. Needles and syringes are usually sold seperately. I just got a few 100 this week for pretty cheap. Make sure to pick up some sterile swabs to wipe down the injection site. Lots of videos on YouTube if you have any questions.
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nickname_537 User profile
#1 not everyone is estrogen sensitive. I not once used an ai even on over 1,000 plus testosterone weekly. *But have arimidex on hand in case you need it. Don`t use chemicals unless needed. #2 as a beginner do about 500mg test per week. You`re off to a good start. Beginners need only testosterone. Add additional compounds one by one later during future cycles so you know how you respind to each. Look into blast and cruise, it`s higher dose cycles and then yiu cycle lower dosed testosterone about 250mg to 300mg per week but no more. Why? You keep gains plus you avoid the roller coaster effect of on and off cycling with pct that is not good for your endocrine system. Testosterone is naturally occurring in your body, so unless you have a genetic pre congenital predospision it should not effect you negatively. Remember pros stay on cycle for 15 to 25 years and are not (not) dropping like flies. Basically you`ll learn as you go along. Try to get blood work done man so you can gauge your health. Get cholesterol, liver values, kidney gfr, rbc count, estradiol (i believe it`s estrogen), blood pressure which is routine per doctor visit. If you`re like 99% of the population you`ll see the doctor won`t be alarmed at the values out of proportion. Many (many) non steroid using people are out of wack by far worse. Now, don`t get me wrong. If you`re the few with bad genetics, you`ll get bad blood results that`ll raise your doctors eyebrows, but then again chances are you`re not. 250mg test per week is nothing. I suggest about 400mg but really 500mg per week. Anybody else please chime in and help our fellow brother put. Only people who know and have used steroids for over 10 years. Anyway still be safe. But honestly there you go brother, the truth. Unless you have a genetic predisposition to health problems. This is not meant to be professional medical advise. It`s only meant to aid you from my personal experience as an average guy using about 600mg tren ace per week plus about 500mg test per week plus other stuff, npp, primobolan, eq, for about 2 years with not much time off cycle. Everybody is different, but based on my experience and others, don`t worry. *Unless you are genetically prone to adverse effects.*
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
1.5″ 22-25g for injection, and 18-21g for withdrawal. You`ll need estrogen blocker on hand, Arimidex is the most popular. 250 for 10 weeks is quite low, try 500 mg/week for 12 weeks, thats a beginners cycle.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
I like 25 guage but draw with 20 guage I use 3/4 inch but some prefer to go deeper I dont and works fine for me. As for estrogen at 250mg test per week you might be sensitive to it but if you split that dosage in half twice a week the odds are less for estrogen sides. But have an AI on hand just incase
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So how long would this last me? i’m trying to inject only once a week. How much can i do each week? And how would i go stacked with oral anavar or winny
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K.D.T User profile
Sounds like your first cycle just stick with 250 to 500 mgs a week of test one bottle will last 5 to 10 weeks hold off on the other compounds until you know how you respond to test
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TrenDaddy-Z User profile
That depends on how much you want to take. I’d recommend around 400mg for a starter cycle. If a bottle is 250Mg/ML then there is 2500 total MG in the bottle. If you ran 400 a week then you do 2500/400. A bottle would last you about 6 weeks at that dose.I recommend injecting this twice a week instead of Once. One is not nearly enough to keep your levels high. If you’re doing once because you’re afraid to inject more than once a week; maybe reconsider your choice to hop on.
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Jlo24 User profile
It all depends on how much you are going to inject weekly.. the whole bottle is 2,500ML total so that’s 10 shots at 25ML so it would depend on your dose. And you could take winny or var it would be fine
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Unc33135 User profile
If your only injecting once a week which is 250mg a week then this will last you 10 weeks. If this is your first cycle you dont need to stack anavar but if you did id do around 30mg a day to start. Just stick with the test only though and see how you respond to that.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
This is not something that I`ve heard about or that I think. I test my hormone levels, LFT`s and renal function almost obsessively when I`m running. I can tell you that my levels do not drop appreciably until 10 days post injection, of any esther (obviously this does not include water based products or oral). For me 7 days is fine, cost effective and just easier. I know conventional wisdom may say differently but I wonder how many of those people have actually done the work. I cannot imagine that I am that different then anyone else, but everyone is different. For a beginner I think once a week is fine for a host of reasons at anywhere from 250-500mg a week. I am not saying that anyone else is right or wrong, this is just an alternative perspective. Good luck
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Skuchie User profile
1cc or 250mgs, when injected once per week, will last you ten weeks. With the last shot possibly smaller just because of waste. Stick to just this until you have more experience.
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Has anyone gotten any test e batch:PARA003? When i got my package i could easily scratch the vial label off, just seemed a little sketch.. so I ordered some eq and another test e and it`s batch# is TE001 and looks much better.. I`m sure it`s just fine just was curious
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Go on Para Pharma`s site and check the batch number if you are concerned with it not being legit….the batch number is printed on with ink…ink can ware away…stop worrying 🙂
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Will User profile Expert
Depending on the temps it was sitting in and the length of time it was sitting in the supply facility, that can contribute to label looking worn or falling off. All orders through 24roidsnare shipped from the lab company and 24roids seems to do a great job making sure they are associated with legit and quality brands.
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N88 User profile
Para is now a legit company i believe but just like many of the UGLs on 24roids sometimes they cut corners on labeling. Doesnt make it a bad product but def doesnt give reassurance either.
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anonymous255 User profile
I wouldn’t worry about as I have ran Para Pharma many times and never had a problem. Their vials used to be blank. Also, I trust everything on 24roids.
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nickname_556 User profile
I purchased para one time when 24roids first added to there stock sime test deca and eq no issues great products probly just were and tare threw shipping and packaging
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nickname_537 User profile
I believe also that although legitimate many ugls need to cut corners on labeling because this has occurred before to me with another company but the code verified correctly online anyway.
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First cycle with test e, I have Arimidex and nolva how to use each with this
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Heller User profile
Well as for arimidex a lot of people favor .5mg Every other day and as for the nolva dont use it until 2 weeks after your cycle ends, and use it with clomid 40/40/20/20 and use the clomid for 100/100/50/50
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K Reyn User profile
I`m on week 11 of my 1st cycle ever….running test e only…..I haven`t used an AI my entire cycle….I showed no symptoms of elevated estrogen levels so no need to take them. Always good to have on hand, but if no sides then why bother? Good luck bro, I got fucking HUGE (AND shredded) running only 350 mg of test e a week. Less is more man, especially if you can get great results at a lower dose….I`ll be doing this for awhile and running future cycles so I left myself plenty of room to increase my dosage and continue to get maximum results. Do not start at 500 mg a week….blast 400 and see how your body reacts….then tweak the dosage if need be. You gonna LOVE it! Good luck!
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ViktorN User profile
TestE: week1 to week12, 400mg per week split in 2 pins at 200mg. AI; Arimidex. No need to use it until you feel at estrogen sides. But when bros use high dose or stacks they take 0.5mg EOD. Week14-week15. Nolva 40mg and Clomid 100mg. Week16-week 17. Nolva 20mg and Clomid 50mg. Good luck my friend!
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Will User profile Expert
Arimidex is an AI you take while on cycle if you notice estrogenic side effects. It can be taken either every 3 days or every other day. Nolvadex would be used with Clomid for your PCT. Youd begin taking it 2 weeks after your last injection of your cycle.
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Winstrolback User profile
It depends also on dosage. Should only need .05mg 2-3 times a week. Unless your at a high dose. Nolva for pct if you start noticing any side effects or gyno up your dose
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J.P User profile Expert
Nolvadex is for PCT. Don`t fall for the b.s. about using it on cycle. Arimidex you should start low, .5mg and assess your needs from there. Try starting with every 3rd day. It`s stronger than people think. In the meantime, get online and do some research that doesn`t involve forums or Q&A boards since most of them are filled with guys still not tuned in to the true nature of Arimidex. Going forward, Aromasin is the better choice
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I received this product and it is a yellowish color. Is this normal?
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
It`s not abnormal to have a yellow tint. It is very likely from whatever carrier oil they used.
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Robert User profile
Its probably just the carrier oil. Grapeseed is often yellowish, even slightly greenish. MCT oil is ofter clear. You don`t have anything to worry about.
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Will User profile Expert
Test is usually clear but the yellow tint I`ve seen depending on the type of oil the compound is mixed with. No reason to worry.
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ViktorN User profile
First 24roids is legit. Buy with confidence. Next carrier oil has fiiferent color tints. Normal they r yelllowish some r deeper yellow. As long as the oil is translucent you are good. Murky color r sign of contaminants. I never heard of that on 24roids. You are good to go my friend!!
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Marcus User profile
Nothing to worry about. Ive done test e with yellow color.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
A lot of test is yellowish in color due to the carrier oil used in the manufacturing process
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Hello. I am highly allergic to EO oil. Does this brand use EO in their oils? About lost my leg the first time I tried EO.
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ROBERT User profile
Would you can do is google the brand, then search the specific steroid to see exactly what they use. I have done a search to look for certain compounds before and it worked. Some also have them on the bottle. Good luck and BE SAFE.
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LegacyLifter User profile
I wish they’d list the ingredients on these products as I’m not sure.
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Jaris User profile
Yeah, oils hardly gets stated, maybe try water based products? I tried water based tren, worked for me perfectly.
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Micheal Ervin User profile
If your worried about the carrier oil, go with hilma they list all the oil and solvents that are in their products
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Check brand websites to see if they have the ingredients list, If not email the company to verify the carrier oils. If those fail like Micheal said, go with hilma they come with ingredients on the packaging and vial
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RJB User profile
Not sure but also as stated maybe water based is you r route.
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Should I take a during cycle Supplement while taking testosterone E250 I understand I need a post cycle hope this is a good question
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Yes you’ll need an ai and depending on your test doses will determine the ai dose so if your running 500mg/week of test e you’d run adex at 1mg every day if your running just 250 a week that’s low and .5 everyday will be fine.
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JESSE PEARSON User profile Expert
A good cycle support supplement is generally beneficial. It can be something fancy and expensive. Or simple and cost effective like hawthorn berries and milk thistle. But more important than a supplement is a good anti-estrogen. A lot of people like to start out with something like Arimidex. It`s cheap, and can be taken as little as a couple times a week for some. A better option however is Aromasin. It`ll cost a little more, but it is a better drug since there is no estrogen rebound like there is with Arimidex. Also it has been shown to improve lipid levels. Just be sure whatever way you go to have enough to last throughout post cycle therapy, an often overlooked period where an anti-estrogen can save the day