is there anything can take with this to combat sides?
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Sean Phillips User profile
yes an ai, like arimadex or aromsin will help with estrogen. and caber can help keep progesteron down.
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Viking blood User profile
ai`s are easily taken on cycle to combat sides. there is alaso a pharmacy with bp meds and accutane for skin.
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mike User profile
you can take an ai to combat estrogen and caber to fight progesteron buuld up
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Jonathan User profile
of course this site has everything you need to fight progesterone, estrogen, bp, skin issues, and anything else.
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jenna User profile
theres a drug for any side you can have. what sides are you dealing with?based on your other uestions i presume gyno. take an ai anytime you are taking test or a drug that aromatizes.
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nickname_88 User profile
Of course.. just the basics as one would take to prevent sides with many different cycles.. Any AI and or Caber for Progesterone build up.. these should be plenty familiar to you if you`re experienced with gear.. if not, please read more and study up cuz how to prevent sides is almost more key than choosing what cycle you want to run.. always want to make sure you have what you need before starting a cycle.
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Jaris User profile
Caber, arimidex whatever you want. Depends on what doses you are going for
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Bearcan1 User profile
Anti estrogen and anti progesterone. Arimidex and Caber.
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Hey guys help please!!!!What you guys think about?cani use like:monday,Wednesday and Friday Ripped xl 300 (test propi,drosta propi,tren acetate)1ml each day And :tuesday and ThursdayMass mix 500 (test enanth,tren enanth,drosta enanth)1 ml each daythanks!!!!!!!!
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
The first mwf sounds okay but the test e and tren e don`t need to be pinned MW thats too close with a big gap. Something like Monday Thursday/Friday would be better.
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Taylor User profile
I personally think you`re going to want to choose one or the other. That would be way too much gear you`re putting into your body. Once again, that`s just me, I would go with the Mass Mix 500 and do two injections per week (Mon&Thur).
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No no no User profile Expert
Woah. Slow down. That`s way to much tren. Are you bulking or cutting. Figure out your goal first. I`ve never heard of doing this cycle before
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BigOlRed User profile
Yeah I would do a half each day or even every other day and knock the tren e off other than that it sounds good
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MegaCycle User profile
Are you trying to kill yourself? You need to slow way down and step back a bit. Do one or the other but also keep it consistent. 5 days of pin and then 2 days of no pin will throw you way off. Please do some more research
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EDubz User profile
Like most said, I would just stick with the 1st one, m/w/f, or every other day. No need to go crazy with those 2 mixes with so many different compounds. Your not going to get better results by adding so many compounds.
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Hi 24roidsters! I have been on this blend and some Aaster orals (5weeks) for 10 weeks now and it has been a hell of a great cycle! I made very nice gains and my strength went through the roof. The blend has a slight pip but nothing really serious. After all it is 600mg in one ml. And I prefer that rather than inject 3 ml at once:) The question is: how long can I run this blend? I feel like I am still making progress but eventually I wanted to switch to Perfect Mass Mix to introduce some changes. Do you think 10 – 11 week threshold is a good moment to make the change?
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traianos123 User profile
sure u can make the change, start now Perfect mass mix but stop your cycle at a total of 14 weeks, or max 16, maximum, because u will need to give your body a break and time to recover, do a proper pct at the end, so u have another 4-5 max 6 weeks of cycle, but the longer is your cycle the more u have to be clean, so 14 weeks cycle and 4 for the pct u need to stay clean 18 weeks or close to that.
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Jaris User profile
I never recommend going to crazy 10 weeks is plenty, for that kind of cycle, just prepare mentally for it and you should be good.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
i mean there really are no rules per say just conventional wisdom that other gearheads (who are not you btw) have found that work for most. Me personally, i dont let others dictate how long or short my cycles will be. One caveat, i do get frequent bloodwork and if i feel good and my labs are within limits i might run a little longer if not i stop or taper. the only thing is that this blend contains EQ so i would prob run that at least 16-20 weeks to get the full benefits of the EQ. not sure i would bother switching at all and really I would be more concerned with the orals then the blend, orals always fuck with my liver more than almost all injectables. glad to hear you like that blend tho, ive been meaning to try it. next order
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Depends on your bloodwork and how you are feeling. Can be upwards of 16 weeks. You don`t need to change mixes to make gains though if thats what you think.
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BigOlRed User profile
I`ve always noticed that my body will tell me when something is wrong or when I`m doing too much you got to be able to communicate with yourself and realize when your body is telling you that you are doing too much or need a break or need to step it down. But if you are okay and not having any serious issues I don`t see a problem with it.
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Bearcan1 User profile
With those items I would say 12 weeks minimum 20 max. 16 maybe a happy medium.
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Hi everyone. I took 3 x 1ml shots of this stuff over a couple weeks and with every shot I developed an infection. (I had been taking 1ml of 200mg/ml test-cyp for a few months in quads and glutes and never had an issue). With this gain mix, the first two shots were in a wrong part of the glutes (almost center) AND with a shorter syringe 21ga x 1inch, so I thought I may have delivered it in the fat. Also, I pinned both first shots back to back, 4 days apart, in the same location as mentioned. It got hard and I went to the doctor and he said it was an infection and gave me antibiotic SHOT and ORAL. The antibiotic shot was in the opposite glute. 4 days after the antibiotic shot, I gave myself the third 1ml of the gain mix in the same location as the antibiotic shot, but with a longer needle: 21ga x 1.5″ (40mm). I figured gear over antibiotic would not be an issue that`s why I used the same location. Well, this one also got infected and hurt a lot because it seems it was delivered properly to the muscle. I had taken 2 antibiotic shots in total and had been on oral antibiotic for 20 days now, just finished. All infection sites have seemingly healed, and the last site is still a little bruised but the pain is gone and it goes away day after day. I did my best to keep things sterile. On that third injection I even changed needles between drawing and pinning. Yet I still ended up with an infection. Any thoughts?? I appreciate your feedback.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
I have nothing but good experiences with aaster solutions. As you said you once injected into the wrong part of the glut and should be more on the side than the center. However, since you said you got infected again maybe you are just having a reaction to such a concentrated mix since 600mg/ml is very concentrated. Either way good luck.
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Dromeo User profile
You might be allergic to the carrier oil. Have you used this brand before?
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Papi1266 User profile
sounds like to me there is something in that mix, that is not agreeing with you, since you know it`s not the test. I would have said possibly contaminated syringes or your not cleaning it well, top of the vial should he wiped with alcohol and well as the injection site, some people wipe the syringe but always switch out the syringe you use to draw with the one you pin
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Drew User profile
First I would say you always want to change the needle head I between stabbing the bottle and doing your injections. Second I would try to avoid 1 shot ting into your legs go for the shoulders and glues second always switch up you place your pinning for example one day one shoulders next different should next one glute next the other glute and repeat.
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JB205 User profile Expert
First off you should pin upper outer portion of your glutes. Also, did you use alcohol wipes to swab the area pinned. I`ve used alot of gear from 24roids and never once had or have heard of the gear itself causing an infection. I have pinned cut mix from DP which was potent mix. It caused a swelling warm red knot when I pinned a lot of the time. I would warm the syringe and massage the injection site and it stopped doing that.
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Larry User profile Expert
Throw out the vial. Its a bad vial. Ugls have improved a lot over the years but they are still ugl and don`t have the quality control of the pharma grade. Next time put a little bit of water in saucer pan it`ll you vial is 1/3 in the water then put it on a site heat and let the water boil for 30 min.
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So just a update guys who have been asking about aaster. I placed my order 12/13 and just received an email saying it has shipped 12/30 so definitely longer than other brands I have used but At least it`s on the way.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
thanks for the info. I ordered from them before december and it showed up in 10 days (I live in Europe though)
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novadesert007 User profile
It`s holiday season bro. IT will take longer for sure. Yea but last time mine came from Europe get here 9 days after it shipped.
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Lord User profile
I placed an order with Aaster products at the end of November last year. It shipped around December 10 and I didn`t receive it until 3 weeks after the countdown.
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Nickname_883 User profile
Had mine take 12 day`s to ship and about 8 day`s to get to Ny be patient i always wait for them to ship if it`s passed 3 weeks then i`d send a ticket but it doesn`t alway`s take long to ship, it`s holiday season glad to hear you`re package is on it`s way and thank`s for the info
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traianos123 User profile
thanks for the info, i know is possible they move slower than others but also because is this time of the year is possible to move slower.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Shit. 2 weeks just to ship? That`s pretty long time to wait
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So I have made multiple orders of GP products paid with Litecoin and they ship 5 days after. I ordered some aaster for the first time also paid with litecoin and 2 was now it still hasn`t showed shipped. Anyone have some knowledge on this brand/shipping?
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novadesert007 User profile
GP almost all the time come from Ukraine. Never ordered anything else beside GP and DP. They just works and always have good reviews.
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C30 User profile
I ordered some stuff from AS and had to submit a ticket for follow up. It`s been 7 business days and they informed me that they are working on it. I recommend you submit a ticket. Good luck
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Pincushion User profile
I`m glad you brought this up because I ordered and paid for an order of DHB from Aaster about 7 days ago as well and it hasn`t shipped either. I think I`ll open a ticket with 24roids right now. Let us know if you hear anything.
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John Rambo User profile
Yeah man some orders take longer to ship. Different manufacturers have different procedures. Not much you can do until the 30 day mark. I would just be patient and your that 24roids will take care of it and most likey it`ll come before you could even open a ticket
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Iron User profile
I`d suggest to submit a ticket and it`ll take care of that to be honest man. I think it`s from Ukraine but I don`t think it matters where it`s from because 24roids packages correctly and my items always arrived of the 7 or 8 orders so far without issue within 2 weeks sometimes closer to three.
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traianos123 User profile
If your order status is PAID/PROCESSING u dont have to worry, they will ship your order soon, just is this time of the year, u know.
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thinking about this for next go around. Anyone actually used it? What do you think?
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EDubz User profile
Great product only need to pin every 4 days and thr gains are great if diet and workout routine are in check
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novadesert007 User profile
I never tried this product before but I have run a similar cycle like this twice. A very concentrated substance so you might experience PIP. Just rub it very well. Masterone is acting just as well as Proviron so there is no need for AI. Have some on hand just in case. Pct is still going to be the same. Id pin twice a week for best results cause More than 400mg of Masterone a week just gonna cramp you up. It`s going to harden you up for sure. I generally run the low test, Mast and Tren. Good luck!
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Beard User profile
I don`t see the positives of running these pre mixed. They`re not dosed correctly in my opinion. You need more test. But ull get easy more out of a cycle buying it separately and dosing right.
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John Rambo User profile
I would help to know your cycle history and goals. Also like another dude said I`m not a huge fan of pre mixed gear. You are insane to control the distribution of product. Sometimes you need to pull back on one of the compound and with a pre mix you cannot do that. So i always grab everything i need sperate. Good luck brother
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Unc33135 User profile
I have run all these products together. Not this exact mix for reasons other people said. Its a good size builder and the sides werent bad at all. I usually run them at 500mg a week but im sure youd be fine doing it twice a week at 400mg each.
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Big Dogg User profile
Never run that product. I like to be able to adjust dose of individual compounds to attain goals, alleviate sides, etc. so I dont run mixed products (I have in the past). I do like that stack though and you will be happy with the results assuming your diet and training are on check. I run test and eq as a base for most cycles. Adding Deca you should be able to train hard and often and still recover and grow.
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Hello brothers in arms! This product is amazing and I had great results using it. I also used Halo while on it, for about 25 days. My cycle was just great and I love Aaster the most of all 24roids` brands. One thing I noticed that worried me is that I had numb hands sometimes when I woke up in the middle of the night. It always took me like 30-50 seconds to shake off this weird feeling of having my hands numb and difficult to move. I didn`t have that kind of sides when I was just cruising on Aaster Test Cyp before my proper bulking cycle. What do you think guys could be the reason for this? I assume it is related to my blood getting thicker due to boldenone included in the mix. Correct? If so, what should I use in the future to prevent it? Aspirin?
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FLJay User profile
There are many reasons why this can be happening especially due to the EQ. My best advice is and im sure you already know is to get some blood work done to check your blood count. I never tried it mix 600 but I was actually looking at it today and Ment. Anyways bro go get that checked out. Good luck bro.
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N88 User profile
You have carpel tunnel and when on anabolics it makes it worse. I have the same issue and have been diagnosed with it. My hemoglobin does get worse when on heavy anabolics and could also contribute to the numb fingers. Next cycle recommend getting your hemoglobin checked or just donate regardless.
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skitt User profile
Not saying it isn`t or that it is do to the gear.. But I have not ever had my hands go numb due to gear also compounds are different for everyone.. Usually my hands would get numb like that due to over working them at work.. With that being said if on good doses of gear and working with your hands a lot its possible that you could be over working them and not feeling it untell they are relaxed if that makes sense… If you are concerned about your RBC being up to much and think this could be the reason I would just get a blood test and see where your count is at.. I have done plenty of compounds that raise RBC and not have this issue but like I said they can affect everyone differently.. Maybe someone else may have had the same issue being on same compounds but again I would get blood work done on your count first before throwing in other things.. Yes I know Baby aspirin will help thin it out but know your count first and compare then maybe go that route.. good luck bro
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jimmy User profile
Aspirin or motrin is also a blood thinner. Stimulants often do this to me, due to the fact that more blood is going to the brain and less to the extremities.
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IFBBPRO Elite User profile
Very common due to boldenone use for some people. This is a good sign in a sense that you know that you have boldenone of good quality in your mix. Aspririn should help. And these sides will stop around 10-14 days after discontinuing use of boldenone.
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nickname_65 User profile
As already been said. Some ppl react like that to boldenone. Many of my friends had similar symptoms when they used good quality boldenone or DHB. You can use some aspirin or motrin as already advised to make your blood thinner. Just do that and there is nothing to worry about. Enjoy your cycle!
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Any advice on dosage? How often I would be required to pin? Starting a cycle after a few years on the couch, due to injury. Cheers
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nickname_364 User profile
Most esters are pinned twice a week unless its phenyl propionate, acetate or propionate. Those you would pin every other day or at least x3 per week no less
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Anon14 User profile
I’m sure you know that a dedicated diet and training regimen is always the first best option when Wanting to get in shape and add some mass/size. If this is your first cycle ever then just test will add plenty of size by itself, like test cypionate or enanthate 400 mg/wk biweekly injections ie:Monday, Thursday. Take advantage of getting the most benefit from as little of hormones as possible before stacking multiple compounds. If your dead set on this particular product then 1cc 2xs a week as well. Get some adex for a test cycle .5mg 2x a week but if you get this blend get some caber as well. If you haven’t been in shape and trained in years it’s definitely recommended to get in routine of diet and training before resorting to hormones. Best of luck.
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nickname_518 User profile
Everything both guys already said is correct especially about the diet and training and only doing a straight test cycle either enenthate or cypionate. It’s not recommended to add multiple compounds that you haven’t ran before because u won’t know which one ur body is not responding well to if it happens and with this mix u can’t just drop one compound because it’s a blend. If you are gonna do this blend tho then pin it twice a week 2cc’s a week but imo this isn’t the best dosed blend. If u decide to run this then make sure you get your ancillaries and pct. an ai like arimidex is good however since u have deca in there u might want to get caber Incase you get side effects from the deca
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Will User profile Expert
The amount of pinning per week depends on the dose you run. These are longer ester compounds, so you can pin 1-2 times a week. Your dose will depend upon what you`ve previously ran these compounds at and slightly raise the dose by 100-200mg. If you havent ran one of these compounds before, start at a low dose like 200-300mg.
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anonymous255 User profile
I would do half a ml every 3.5 days for 10 weeks and then start pct 14 days after last injection.
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Jacko User profile
If you’ve been off for a while, I agree with the bro’s above. Try some Test c or Test E alone for your first cycle. You can always add if nessesary but you can take away from a blend. Always Be safe. Everything else will fall into place of you train hard and keep macros in check
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How sore does one get? Like test prop?
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Xman User profile
No, this will NOT be like test prop. All three compounds in this mixture are long ester products, meaning the time release component is slow. With this in mind, PIP should be very minimal.
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YD1 User profile
Its not that bad. You still feel something. I was the most 3 days sore but that was my quads. Delts might be a bit easier depending how much you inject. The more concentrated the more pip. Good luck
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Bobby User profile
No, its not that bad, although all compounds that ive used including test prop, didint hurt.
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nickname_458 User profile
Blends of long Esther test are produce mild pulp vs short esther blends. If your not used to aas injections then you will probably have some soreness but will get better with each injection rotating sites. I prefer glutes and ventro glutes, ventro glutes are best for me with oils that tend to produce pip, just have to get my wife to pin for me cuz I can’t twist that far around, lol.
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Jimbo User profile
It will not be like prop because they are all long esters. That being said, it is still a very high concretation of compounds and pip will really come down to wether or not you have virgin muscles. (Virgin muscles meaning haven’t injected in those particular muscles before) as well as your injection routine
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Gymrat_092 User profile
These are all long esters wich usually arent bad but the concentration is quite high. Shorter esters will always have more pip
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How is it possible to have 200 MG of enanthate, 200 of Decca ans 200 of eq in 1ml?? Thinking about buying it. But I would like all my 24roids buddies to give some advice first. Would it be better to just buy these separately so you know your getting the correct dosage? Your input would be great. Thank you.
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Joe Hodgins User profile
i dont doubt it’s possible man and while I haven’t used it, people have said some good things about aaster but I personally haven’t tried them out yet. If it is legit, it’s probably gonna have a good amount of pip to it for sure lol but that’s no reason to deter from something. If you can’t find any reviews about this specific product than I would say either buy the compounds separate OR buy test e 200/ eq200 from either dragon or geneza as well as some deca if that’s the combo your going for. I say dragon and geneza cause they’re both great companies and I’ve personally tried both of their test/eq combo and love them. If u do try this stuff from aaster out, definitely let us know how it goes
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Marcus User profile
High concentration. Never used it but probably injection hurts. Ive done geneza andro mix which is mix of test prop, tren ace and masteron ace. Its a good thing but its always better if you buy all these separately so you know you are doing right dosage.
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N88 User profile
No it`s not possible but GP makes a product that has 200 mgs of test and 200 mgs of EQ in one ML. Then you just gotta add the deca. They make high dose deca so it`s possible to do 1.5 mls with all that jammed in there.
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ViktorN User profile
What you asked is 600mg in one mL. That’s high density. I haven’t seen a stack like that. But GP and DP sells EQ200/TestE200 already mixed. I actually voting on it in 3 weeks so I can get it half off. So with this stack you 400mg in 1mL. Then draw deca separately. You have to pin more than 1mL if you want the 3 in one pin. Good luck my friend!
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michael patsalou User profile
It’s hiGh concentration and probably painful