I`ve 8 cycles and am looking to drop some body fat while keeping my muscle mass and strength. I`ve got my diet ready. I`m 6ft/223lbs/12-13% BF. One the cut mix 150, whatlengrh of cycle, dose, and frequency is recommended? what kind of cycle support is needed? I have cyp 250, caber, anastrozol, and aromasin on hand. TIA for the advice
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RonaldCoe User profile
Are you going to use low dose tren for fat loss?
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DrGray User profile
I`ve used this product for 7 weeks at 1cc a day. That`s 350mg/tren, test, and masteron a week. I added in my usual trt dose of test of 150mg test cyp to put me at 500mg/test a week. From this cycle I gained strength, mass, and cut 3% of my body fat. Personally I didn`t use caber but this product has tren in it, so have it on hand! Have arimidex on hand as well. If you feel tren dick coming on use caber and any estrogenic sides use the ai. Good luck brother!
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
You can use this because it has tren that locks into the AR receptor tightly and helps lypolisis for fat burn to a degree, your diet must be clean with lower calories however. Maintain about 400mg to 500mg test weekly also. Use caber if needed. 24roids sells it in case.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
500 test a week with half tab of arimidex eod to keep estrogen in check also maybe another dry compound like tren a or masteron
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EQhead User profile Expert
Run Cutmix150 at 1ml every day for 8 weeks. The Tren and Mast in it will shred you as long as your training is good. When I ran this cycle my obliques were popping and striations in triceps and quads were visible. I added Winstrol 50mg for last 6 weeks. Oh and I added another 200mg a week of test Prop. Cutmix150 is all fast esters, but you could get away with adding test Cyp to it……only add 0.1ml (25mg) to your daily shots. This will bring your test higher than the Tren and Mast. Use Caber and Arimidex as needed. Good luck. Cheers!
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
I usually just use 300 on that
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Uhoh38125 User profile
700 mg primo (1shot per day) with 500mg test was taking weight off of me fast.
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Would this be good for a beggener? Someone that has never juiced before? And I`m in the food service industry and I deliver groceries to restaurants and shit and it`s high in labor and the faster I go the more I get paid so when I come off I don`t wanna be flat can I stay on it or what do I do when it`s time to come off, don`t wanna it to effect my job at all but I`ve been working out for a year and have mediocre results I`m trying to get shredded
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A19 User profile Expert
This will not be good for you. It`s too much. You can start out with an even simpler cycle. Buy some testosterone cypionate or enanthate. Inject 500mg/week split into two injecting of 250mg. One shot on Monday and another on Thursday. Do this for 12-15 weeks. You`ll also need to buy clomids for your PCT which is Post Cycle Therapy. You`ll want to start this two weeks after your last injection. Run 100mg/day for two weeks then 50mg/day for another two weeks. Four weeks total. You`ll also want to buy some arimadex which is an AI (aromatase inhibitor) just in case you experience estrogen related side effects such as fatigue, puffy or itchy nipples, bloating, to name a few. Watch “Rx Muscle Estrogen Management” on YouTube before you take any AI. Hope that helps. Don`t forget to vote by clicking the up arrow by my name if you found this helpful. Thanks for the question.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
I wouldn`t I`d just do test e or test c. 500mg for 12 weeks. Nothing else.
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EDubz User profile
No def not it has tren in it not recomended for first cycle at all. Save tren for your 4th or 5th cycle. You`ll be glad u did. Good luck n don`t forget to vote
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JohnCummings User profile
You should avoid trenbolone for as long as you can, definitely not a good idea for a first go around with AAS. Has the harshest side effects and most deleterious effects of really any injectable. Start off with testosterone enanthate dosed at 200 mg`s every 3 days. Run that for 12-14 weeks then pct. You will see great results if you eat clean and train hard. Have 10,000 iu of HCG and a pack of clomid for pct. Aromasin is the best ai option imo for on cycle, have some of that, or some arimidex if Aromasin is too expensive or hard to get. If you wanted to, you could also add in 20-40 mg`s every day of anavar for the first and last 4 weeks to boost strength quickly and help burn a bit if extra fat than test alone. Good luck
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RyanVogel User profile
For cycle should be a test only cycle. I`d say 300-500mg for 12-16 weeks
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Sounds like you not eating right or you`re not resting enough brother! If what you are saying is true about labor and then you also workout too?! Shit you should be shredded. But to answer your question, Cut Mix has trenbolone in it. It`s the most powerful steroids out there. It also had the most powerful side effects as well. Brothers don`t touch tren until they`ve done everything! So no it`s not a good choice for beginners. Instead EQ is what you are looking for. It give your strength, endurance, and can keep you working and not be tire. This is because it makes tons of blood cells and increase your vascular to support those rbc. But hold on just a minute. You need to test your body out first with test only cycle. 400mg split ot to 2x a week at 200mg for 12 weeks. then go on a pct and wait 12 weeks before you start another cycle of test only at 500mg a week for 12 weeks. These 2 cycles will get you what you are looking for! Eat right! clean and lean. Caloric deficit to cut and caloric excess to bulk. Get lots of rest. And soon enough you be in great shape hauling all them food around! Good luck brother and don`t forget to vote so a brother can eat! 🙂
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Ready to start this cycle! 1ml EOD for 8 weeks have caber on hand just in case sides pop up would run .5mg every 3 days also have aromasin just in case as well. Any other thoughts/ suggestions?? Would love to hear from guys that have run this. Have two bottles of GP Cyp as well if I need some more test.
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EQhead User profile Expert
Just started this as well (1ml daily). At 1ml eod thats only an average of 175mg/week of Test Prop. Id bump the Test up by twice that. Since you have Cyp250 throw 0.5ml in twice weekly, just mix it in with your Cutmix150. That`d put you at 425mg/week of Test. I`m going to be adding a bit more Prop into my Cut Mix. Good luck. I`ve always heard good things about Tren and I reckon we`re both about to find out. Oh also I did get the Tren cough immediately after my first pin, but it only lasted a couple minutes. Did second shot today and no cough. Cheers!
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
I have always though this product and the um …andromix is a bit low on test. i do exactly as you do and add 1/2 ml twice a week (and one weekly injection without). i like both products (especially when you can get them POW) but find that they do work a bit better with a small addition of testosterone, but to each his own. Probably not a huge deal either way but good point EQ.
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SwollSparky User profile
I have cut mix on the way please keep us updated. From what I heard the cut mix gives you dramatic gains of lean muscle and fat loss if training and eating right. Good luck bro.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
I would just buy more Cut Mix, run 1ml daily as your starting point. Eat well and enjoy.
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Jason123 User profile
Main thing with cut mix is be very lean so you can truly appreciate what it does. If you aren`t going to diet hard and get ripped you are wasting it. Ideally you run it ED to truly get crazy results and add in a little more test.
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POOKIE2 User profile
Dont know your experience history but if you have ran several cycles, 1 ML EOD wont be enough. I`d say to make a dent you`d need at a minimum 1.5-2 ML EOD. You can always start low and see how your body responds then bump it up. Good luck….stay swole!
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BigZ User profile
First time with tren… I’ve been going back and forth about that might do 1.5ml EOD for 8 weeks.
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Hey Team! I am looking for some insight. Can I or would you run a cycle of Cut Mix with Anadrol 50? I have three vials of the Cut Mix and looking to gain more hard muscle and pick up my drive. Thanks and please be brutal and honest!
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Traianos123 User profile
I dont think is a good option to use Anadrol with Cut Mix, as the name say is a compound for cutting, but if u use Anadrol u will gain some water weight, so i dont think is good to use them together, if u want to see better results take with the Cut Mix some Winstrol or Anavar, they are better for a cutting cycle.
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Zilla User profile
Can you? Yes. If you don`t mind a little watery weight. I always love the pumps I get from anadrol pretty workout. Would I? No. I like adrol but I only use it when bulking. Like traianos mentioned, winstrol or var would be a better alternative for use with cut mix.
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
No one would ever run masteron and at the same time since anadrol will give you a lot of water retention counteracting the drying effect of masteron. But from the standpoint of if those are the only steroids you have can you gain muscle then yes you will.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
You can but why. Using cut mix is designed forba cutting cycle where you are trying to loose bodyfat and show the hard defined muscle. Anadrol will add 10lbs of water and in a deficit you will bot gain any muscle all your gonna see is bloat. Now you can run anadrol for 6 weeks in a bulk then go right into the cut with the cut mix and change diet m in ght be able to add a few lbs of muscle before the cut dont forget to use some form of testosterone
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Jason123 User profile
I sure wouldn`t. It would really be wasting the benefits of the masteron. Save the anadrol for a straight winter gaining phase. Test, EQ, and anadrol would make for a nice bulk this winter.
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Simonak User profile
This question has pretty much been answered but I`ll throw my 2 cents. I like to only makes bulking steroids with other bulking steroids and cutting steroids with cunning steroids with the exception of being able to add test with both.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
There`s a lot of contingencies that would make me say yes or no… like if this is all you had, there`s no buying anything else, then sure. It would probably work pretty well to gain muscle for only 30 days (unfortunately) if you ran 1cc/day. Masteron will help downplay estrogen receptors and that`s not bad from Drol. If you`re open to buying other compounds, I`d say Test/Deca/Drol is extremely effective for mass and will cost less. You`ll gain a lot of water weight but there will be quality mass gains. Depends on your goals and options. Reply to keep the conversation going.
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If I pin Monday Wednesday Friday should I do 1ml or 2ml with every pin?
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
You should pin every day. Even at 3 days a wee 1 ml would only be 150mg of each. So 2 ml is better. But for best results pin 1ml every day for 8 weeks. Thays about 350 of each compound perfect combination. If you pin 3 days a week your levels will be up and down and that can cuase side effects to be worse. Good luck
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JohnSmith User profile
You are most definitely going to need to pin Way more than that! You should be pinning 1ml everyday or 2ml every other day. These are short eaters and your hormones are going to be all over the place with your current schedule. I`ve used this blend a dozen times and find I need to pin every day to minimize pip, and sides.
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JB205 User profile Expert
I did this same schedule for the first time I ran this DP cut mix. I pinned 1ml Monday Wednesday and Friday. I did add a little extra on Friday, so like 1.2ml just because the extra hours between. But also I pinned late as possible Friday night and early as possible Monday morning. I had amazing results, just respect the Tren and don`t get carried away.
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Joeskee User profile
It`s depends how many bottles u got. If u have a few bottles the Monday wends and Friday sounds fine but there not enough test in there. U should buy separate bottles of test when u run the cut mix.
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A85 User profile
Hey bro`s thanks for the quick responses. If I take this stack it will be my 10th overall cycle so I`m not new to the game. Just curious on what kinda test you think I should add to it since I`ll only be pinning Monday Wednesday Friday. Also how many CCs of the stack and how many CCs of the added test? Also should I add test just once a week or twice? Thanks fellas
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Should I run Test E or Test C along with the cut mix or is the prop that is in it more then enough at 1ml eod ? ThankYou in advance for any suggestions.
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POOKIE2 User profile
This blend is designed to not have to take any additional long ester test. I would stick with the short esters 100% and keep your pin frequency on schedule. Good luck….stay swole!
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
Honestly this is a preference call IMO and depends on who you ask. If it was me, I`d run is as-is knowing that the Tren will be doing the lions share of the work. If you wanted to be a stickler and run Test slightly higher (EG: 500mgs/wk) that would be fine and I`d just throw in extra Prop in the same syringe. But to me, if you`re just trying to keep muscle in a calorie deficit and look hard, what`s the extra little Prop REALLY gonna do? Whatever route you choose, good luck bro.
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SwollSparky User profile
3- 4 vials should be enough for a good little run correct?
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Joeskee User profile
No I would definitely run it with test e or cyp cause if u just run the cut mix ur gonna need more that a few bottles.
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SwollSparky User profile
Correct me if I am wrong but If I buy 4 bottles that should be an 80 day supply. One vial should last 20 days at 1ml eod. That means 4 vials should 80 days. Thats 11 weeks. I consider that a decent cutting run. That`s almost 3 months ?
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SwollSparky User profile
I will take your advice and will be running extra test and some primo all along the way.
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This may be a dumb question but I`d rather ask a dumb question than not ask at all. For this cut mix I`ve read 1ml EOD and have also read 1ml 3 x a week. So if youre running 1ml EOD would you just run it like: mon,wed,fri,sun,tues. etc?? Or would you just pin mon,wed,fri and pick up again after the weekend?
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Jason123 User profile
Ideally you do run it Mon, wed, fri, sun, tues etc. It will keep blood levels more stable. I`m sure plenty do just run it mon, wed, and Friday though.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
As Jason said, people do both. I personally would recommend 0.5 ED as opposed to 1 EOD. The cut mix 150 is short esters which spike fast and crash fast. If you pin 0.5ml ED, you`ll experience less variation in blood levels over the duration of the cycle. Often, sides are the result of the hormonal yo-yo. When I went from EOD to ED on NPP, it made a world of difference and I actually was able to lower overal dosage slightly as it felt more effective. I can`t recommend strongly enough to get you some 29g or 31g to pin ED man. Good luck!
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Traianos123 User profile
I like to pin Monday, Wednesday and Friday, like this i have a program that i follow and is more easy to remember when to pin ))
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EQhead User profile Expert
Yeah eod, so the days won`t be the same every week. It averages out to 350mg per week.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
I would always tell people to pin eod, because it doesn`t matter what day it is. The goal is to have stable levels.
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POOKIE2 User profile
Either 3 times a week OR EOD works but would recommend an “actual” every other day which would equate to 3.5 MLs a week or exactly 7 MLs over 14 days (7 x 1 ml pins). Good luck….stay swole!
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JB205 User profile Expert
I`ve no shit done both, the first time I ran it was Monday early morning, Wednesday evening, and Friday evening late as possible, so that it only about 48 hours between injections. I had great results and no sides really at all, except occasionally night sweats. I ran it this way just because I had little experience with Tren and wanted to see how my body reacts. The next few times I ran Cut Mix I ran it EOD and didn`t worry about what day of the week, I pinned first thing in the morning and skipped the next day and pinned first thing the 2 day. Still had great results both ways, less aggressive pinning 3 days a week but still night sweats were the only side. I did however towards the last time running it EOD, get Tren cough the last 2 weeks a few times, but I might have gotten greedy and pinned 1.5ml EOD which could have been the issue. Other then that, either way could work.
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In the past ive had a really ruff time with tren and brutal headaches, with it being low dosed and mix do you think id have same issues
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Tren is tren not everyone can handle it. The only thing you can do is pin this cut mix every day for stable levels. That might help. This cut mix is good but you will need 1cc per day so 1 bottle will last 10 days.
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POOKIE2 User profile
If you have issues with Tren wouldnt recommend taking a blend since you would have to quit the entire stack if sides happened. Instead take tren A seperate and just stop that one compound if your headaches come back.
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Jason123 User profile
Tren sides seem to be very dose dependent. You may get great results with 150 mg wk. I`m running 280mg wk and getting insane results with no sides. If I go to 400 or higher the sides are terrible. I`m contemplating going even lower to see what my results are then. Ideally you want to keep blood levels stable by injecting everyday, but I`m doing 70 mg 4 times a week now and like I said no sides. I`d forget the mix and just use a straight tren acetate.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
How much did you pin Tren last time? Did it has test as a base? Yes one of the strategies to mitigate sides is to take slower dose but more frequent. I would not recommend you pin a blend this time. Start with a test propionate and a tren acetate. Both are fast acting so they can be adjusted on the fly to mitigate your sides and this is why you can pin eod. Even ed is fine. Here`s my recommendation, pin eod. TestP 150mg and trenA 40mg. This is 525mg TestP a week and 140mg of TrenA a week. After a week or two you can bump trenA to 50mg eod but keep testP where it is. Several weeks you can add more trenA eod but don`t go to high because you have a propensity for tren sides. I would keep a low as possible while still getting results. Tren is powerful so you don`t need much. Have cabergolin in hand as well! Good luck buddy! Hope that helps! And don`t forget to vote.
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jimmyarnold User profile
I was taking 250 test weekly and even dropped my tren down to 25 mg daily but couldn`t shake the headache, im 6`3″ 275 pounds and currently trying this low carb/ keto to try and cut weight, was really hoping to take advantage of the sale but dont want that headache for weeks again, leaning towards 500mg test and npp, really have to stay aware of test prop cuz of the aggression so not sure what my next move is
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nickname_238 User profile
If any compounds are making you feel sick or you get headaches, try lowering the dose. If that doesn’t work try a different compound, if you don’t feel good why take it and not be able to function properly.
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It says the vial is 150 mg but it also describes it as a 10ml vial , is it me or is there an error ? Is this vial a 10 ml or 150 mg ? Imcurious if a 150mg vial will last a month.
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Jogger User profile Expert
Hi man it just means it’s a 10ml bottle and there is 150mg per ml of steroids so if you inject 1ml a week meaning 150mg of steroids it will last 10 weeks, good luck
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EQhead User profile Expert
When you see the number on a vial, it`s the milligrams per milliliter (mg/ml). So Cut mix is a total of 1500mg/10ml which is 150mg/ml. Test P 50mg + Tren A 50mg + Mast P 50mg = 150mg/ml. You`d want 3 to 4ml a week. So 1 vial will last max 3 weeks. Get at least 4 vials for a 10 week cut.
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
150mg/ml. There are 10 mls. If you inject twice a week or less it will last a month or longer.
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POOKIE2 User profile
10 MLs in the vial….150 milligrams in EACH ML. So….the entire vial has 1500 mgs total. Each 150 mgs contain 50/50/50 of the three compounds. Make sense? Good luck and stay swole!
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
This 10ml vial contain 150mg of gear per 1ml. This means it has 1,500mg of gear. This is a pre-mixed vial of gear that has 50mg of testP, 50mg of Tren acetate, and 50mg of drostanolone which is masteron PER ml. This is why you have 150mg per ml in the vial of 10ml. Since these are fast acting esters you should pin 0.75ml which contain 112.5mg of these pre-mixed gear EOD. Then wait a week to see if you have any sides from trenA and adjust accordingly. I am also assuming you have done test only cycle and you know how your body react to test. Have cabergolin in hand before you start pinning in case your develop prolactin sides. Of course, arimidex for estrogen and clomid for pct. Good luck buddy! Don`t forget to vote.
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Patriot_1234 User profile Expert
150mgs of compounds (50mgs each) per ml of oil. That`s how it informs the user of the dosage/concentration of the compound(s). No question is a dumb question. Take the time to understand everything before you commit! Good luck
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
It`s all right I used to get very confused myself but it is 150 mg per milliliter. Whenever you see a product that says a certain number example 250 mg/ 10 mL it is 250 ml mg per milliliter. This was a very good question to ask because myself I was confused when I first started looking at stuff on here. Welcome aboard!!!!
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Thinking of running this for my next cycle, how long can your run this was thinking 8 weeks. 1ml EOD and pct with clomid. Also I have read that guys will run test e with test p or Ace to keep blood levels some what stable. Any advice would help boys?
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
I would recommend keeping it short like the 8 weeks you`ve stated. I plan on running this same cycle, except with a slight bump in test. I would recommend pinning ED with short esters over EOD. I get 31g insulin pins and use a larger needle to backfill the weeks worth. I get less pronounced sides pinning everyday and it made a world of difference for me. For this, you can pin 0.5ml ED and make the same weekly count, but you`ll have more stable bloods. With a 31g, you can pin delts, pecs, and lats. Then I mix up with a 27g in each glute once a week too to rotate areas. Also, while not mentioned, make sure you have caber on hand for any tren prolactin sides.
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Mr.M User profile
If my math is right at .5ml Ed for 8 weeks going to need 6 bottles? (Math not my strong point)
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Correct. 8 weeks will require 6 bottles and leave about 4 ml left, per math. Although getting an exact 10ml out can be challenging.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Since this is product of the week it makes sense because the price is half off but next time get each compound separately. You can pin 1ml eod or 0.5ml ed for 8 weeks. you don`t need to pin test e of you are pinning test p eod. Get a few Test p and mast p vials to add 4 more weeks at 50mg(.05 ml) of each eod and prolong the cycle to 12 weeks. So it would 8 weeks on cut mix then 4 more weeks on Test p and Mast p for total 12 weeks. You can take 25mg/day of proviron instead of Mast P. The reason for this is you don`t want to take Tren ace more than 8 weeks but at the same time 8 weeks is too short of a cycle, that`s why a lot of us are not fans of these premxied vials.
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MikeOxlong User profile
Hey M, you can definitely run Test E with this CutMix. Some like to run Test slightly higher than the Tren, others like Tren higher than the test, it`s all about experimentation and personal preference, see what works best for you. And either 1ml every other day or .5ml every day would work. Once again, try both and see what you respond better to. And as far as how many bottles you need for an 8 week cycle, each bottle is 10ml. If you decide to go with .5ml every day, you will get approximately 20 .5ml injections, assuming there is a full 10ml in the vial, but…. you`re always going to have some liquid wasted removing the air from the syringe and some liquid that stays in the syringe. So one vial will last you approximately 20 days, 8 weeks multiplied by 7 days a week is 56. So you will need 3 vials of this cut mix for an 8 week cycle, which would give you 60 injections. If this is your first time running Tren A, hold on because this compound kicks in hard, but at such a low dose you should be good. Order 4 vials in case you decide you want to up the dosage a bit or extend your cycle out a few more weeks. Good luck and be safe
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JB205 User profile Expert
You can stack any ester of Test or run extra Test prop with this Cut Mix 150. I love this blend, I used it 3 different times and changed it up a little with adding different gear with it. I pin 1ml EOD and I`ll run this Cut Mix for around 8 weeks depending on sides from the tren. I get serious night sweats with this, so just have anything for AI on hand like armidex and Caber.
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I need some help guys!!!!! I need this Dragon pharma Cut Mix 150 to get voted POTW boys….. If you have never tried this product, I will tell you from personal experience using this last year, you WILL have incredible results even on a shit diet and minimum training. This stuff will make you feel like a God in the gym, at the beach, and in the bed with your girl.. The gyms have all been closed the last few weeks so this little Cut Mix I promise will jump start your body back to and even better then it was before the virus….
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CommiBiden User profile
If you are buying cut mix in May then you did it all wrong bro. Just stay the course; base test one week, (Oxy,Deca500, Eq500, Tren200), then an oddball the third week. Everybody jacks up POW with their private microfinance drama. Never operate by emotion. You crush reason under the weight of emotion 1) Base test 2) Primary AAS 3) Oddball (i.e. test suspension for your 35mg Oxy injections)Budget for the complete cycle if not year. If you are broke then may I suggest compound interest investments.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
“Like a God in bed???!!” Shoot!! SOLD! i will vote for it! 🙂 Really i know how you feel. POTW is a deal and a half! i don`t use premixed since i like to control the concentration but i will definitely vote for this one friend. Good luck. Hope you win. A do t forget to vote.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
That`s what Tren does. This mix is solid, Test as a base, tren to shed fat while building some muscle and Mast to keep you dry. I will vote for it only so you can wear your girl like a glove, lol
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MikeOxlong User profile
JB205, I`m already a “DEMIGOD!!” I don`t know if I can handle the responsibility of a full-blown GOD!! But….I`ll take the challenge and vote for the Dragon Cut Mix. Like Crazy Dan, I like to control the individual doses. Ive been interested in trying this product or the Geneza Cut Mix, so I`m down to try it. good luck brother
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nickname_404 User profile Expert
Ha, I agree good product especially if POW I have had good results from this or andromix. I do find either to be a little soft on test so for every 2 vials of cut mix i by one vial of test (or susta) and add it to the regime. but sure I`ll vote now. good luck
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Joeskee User profile
I don`t like the cut mix I rather get one of each bottle so u can run a better dose and see better results.
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Can we get this Cut Mix 150 or even GP Andromix as POTW????? I`ve run this stuff for summer cuts before and its hands down the best results. Especially since the gyms have been shut down and about to open back up, I know anyone could benefit from this mix and be shredded for the beach after 4 or 6 weeks easy.
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JB205 User profile Expert
Hell yeah. You have my vote all day long. This stuff is very strong fat burning and I built awsome muscle on it last spring and summer. Pin 1 ml EOD and throw in some DP test blend. 5ml twice a week and the end results are incredible…
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EQhead User profile Expert
I would vote for it! Actually have the individual components for my summer cycle. Test prop, tren A and Mast 100. If I got the Cut Mix, I`d add another half ml of prop to 1ml of Cut Mix eod. Not sue if JB205 meant “5ml” of DP Test Blend twice weekly….that`s a LOT of test! The fast esters in Cut Mix will reduce water retention. Get ripped! Let`s vote!
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
We can vote it but ultimately whatever product gets the most votes wins man. But give it a shot, I`m all for it.
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What`s up fellas? History has been up for a long time. Don`t want to bother you guys with that. Quick version: I`m 48, 2 kids, 25+ years with AAS (All tests, trens, anadrol, dbol, masteron, etc.) Ran the Ad Lean Bulk last summer … AMAZING! Currently, I`m on 2nd month+ Grey Tops at 3ius (5 on 2 off). Low dose Sustanon 350 ( Monday 175mgs – Thursday 175mgs) I have 3 bottles of Cut Mix 150 I`m thinking of running all 3 together?? Any thoughts on dosage? Or … Do you not agree with the compounds together? I`ve never ran a blend (other than Sust) AND … SHOULD I run Winnie at 40mgs at the end? Any thoughts, advice, guidance would be greatly appreciated from you guys!!!
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey Adicam, I would run cut mix at 1mL per day. This gives 350mg per week of each compound. Would be great with grey tops and winny at 40-60mg per day at the end.
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RecoveryProject User profile
Always enjoy reading your posts Juice.
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Adicam User profile
Wow! That`s a great compliment coming from a guy like you! I always feel that I right things that are elementary to those in the know! Greatly appreciated Juice!!
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Adicam User profile
Hey Juice & all others on site!
Again, thanks so much for your response and follow-up comment!
Do you think I can run a Cut Mix 150 through the entire summer???
I`m going to run it at a LOW DOSE cuz Tren thins my hair a bit (I DO NOT HAVE ANY MPB IN THE FAMILY), but I will add either Suston 350 (Mon 175mgs & Thurs 175mgs) and/or Test Prop ( Mon 50mgs or 100mgs / Wed 50mgs or 100mgs/ Friday either 50mgs or 100mgs! Any recommendations from you would be greatly appreciated on dosage on the extra sustanon and or propionate??
Do You recommend Sustanon or Propionate or BOTH?
I imagine adding BOTH Propionate & Sustanon to the CUT MIX IS overkill on the Propionate????
As I mentioned & and you were nice enough to comment on the last post:
I`ve been on:
1. Grey tops for 2 months (have 10 months left & and plan on running it for many many years!! 2. Sustanon for 1 month at low dose (I have enough sust. a year) 3. I`m going to start cut mix 150 on May 1st.
4. WHAT DATE do you think I should start Winnie at 40mgs?
SO, DO YOU THINK RUNNING THOSE BLENDS THROUGH THE SUMMER IS TOO MUCH? I do plan on running the Tren at a low dose.
**And if you do think it`s too much or too long … do you recommend anything to drop and or add or switch to any other AAS???
I`d like to get through the summer and cruise after the beginning of the Fall.
Bro, I realize I`m asking a lot, but if you have the time or any of you other fellas on the site has the time … Please take a take a shot at it!
Once again, I thank all of you guys for your guidance and support!
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RecoveryProject User profile
Thanks for the helpful info. Absolutely, you can run both Sust and the Cut Mix. Run your sust at 500mg/ week and your cut mix at 1ml EOD. You should see great results. If you can, inject your HGH after your workouts; your BG levels are lowest and you will get the greatest benefit from doing so. Take about an hour before eating your first meal after injecting, easy on the carbs first meal post workout. Definitely add Winny 40mg`s at the end of the cycle. I hope this helps. Best wishes
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Adicam User profile
Thanks so much! I usually run the HGH in the a.m. about an hour or two before breakfast, but thanks so much for the tip I will certainly switch it up! And… How do you guys get through your training without gyms being open? I would taper everything down & wait for gym open, but I have a feeling it`s going to be quite a while! I have home DB`s (the heaviest is only 50lbs, No Bench, obviously no cables, I have some heavy bands that`s about it) Of course cardio, but I definitely feel myself slipping and gaining a bit of weight where I shouldn`t. A lot of long days with the family!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
You guys have all been fantastic
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Im looking to do a physique show, and was recommended this. would you agree?
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Juice World User profile
yes, i use this blend during all of my preps and add in 50-100mg of winny the last six weeks.
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Turducken User profile
these 3 drugs are some of the very best to help get you lean hard and vascular. definitely effective to prep for a show with.
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FatDadstack User profile
works great but I find the pip it a little more than normal. Also run with test prop for stapble blood levels. pin evey other day. 1 ml and keep your test around 750mg week and cut it down to the day of your peek.
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Simpleton User profile
good luck with your prep during these hard times. Yes, you can take this and do a wonderful prep in 8 weeks, if you are dialed in and prep diligently .
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jenna User profile
this would be a great blend to use during a prep. these three drugs are my go to during any cut cycle. you will benefits by adding in winny or var.
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Viking blood User profile
ive used these blends half a dozen times or more, and absolutely LOVE them. 300 mg is fantastic and sometmiies run a little more test and mast in addition to that.
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Was wondering how much and how often to use 1 ml twice a week?
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Short User profile Expert
That uses short esters so you should inject at least eod
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Pookie User profile
This blend is meant to be pinned ED or at a minimum EOD. For intermediate users 1 ml EOD to start. If you`re a beginner dont use this blend
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Dan User profile Expert
These has very short esters, acetate and prop. You need to pin eod. Best is ed but we ain`t crazy! Start with 100mg eod. That`s 300mg a week. You don`t need much with these gear.
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RecoveryProject User profile
Yes, the cut mix has short esters. Therefore you will see results almost instantly instead of waiting about 4 weeks for those esters to kick in. Subsequently, you need to inject EOD.
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EDubz User profile
Every day or every other day you need to inject this for stable blood levels, I would pin this every day.
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Taylor User profile
Short esters injection being every other day making it 300mg one week, 400mg the following back to 300mg etc
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which is better for (cut)**Cut long 300(Trenbolone Enanthate, Testosterone Enanthate, Drostanolone Enanthate)_______or________ **cut mix 150(Testosterone Propionate, Trenbolone Acetate, Drostanolone Propionate) enanthate??? Or propionate???
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Big Jake User profile
Both are excellent and similar cutting stacks. It`s the difference between a short ester and a long ester, meaning one of them you need to inject daily and the other twice a week. If this is your first cycle, test only is always advised. If you`ve never taken these substances (particularly trenbolone), try the second one which is shorter lasting. This way if you get side effects and want to stop taking it it gets out of your system faster. Many will say to take the substances separately so you can adjust the dosage as well.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
test propionate has long been considered the best test for cutting, i hAVE NEVER FOUND THIS TO BE THE CASE, test really is– test injection times obviously differ, dont forget the cut mix 150 has tren acetate as well. For the cost the cut long is really the way to go IMO
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BigOlRed User profile
I personally use the enanthate it lasts longer and you do not have to dose as much you can take it twice a week rather than every other day the enanthate are long-acting esters the acetate is short
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Joeskee User profile
They both are good but I would got with the 150 cause if u get a bad side affect from the tren I can stop it real quick.
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nickname_88 User profile
Both are obviously great, just a matter of time given the esters.. I have ran the cut mix or GP Andromix which is the same as the Cut mix and it is a good stack.. loved it!! Now I chose to run each compound on it`s own so I can dose how I prefer but you can`t go wrong with the fast acting esters..
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CHARBEL ABOU-CHAAYA User profile
both are good but for cutting ppl use short easter for tht i personally use tren acetate test propinate and mast propinate
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Quick question hows the pip with Tren A?
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Depends on brand your sticking experience etc.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Might depend on the brand but unless your muscles are virgin muscle to pinning it`s not that bad. Might be a little sore but I would only do a half cc at a time so 50mg per day and 50mg per day of test prop you will get amazing gains assuming diet is for your goals
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Pip User profile
The pip with this is insane expect a dead leg or muscle wherever you pin and Tren cough is a bitc h and no fun!
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ThePony User profile
I`ve run this a half dozen times and get crazy pip Tren cough and abscesses. Be sure to move injections around. I have broken veins all over my glutes from them.
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Lord User profile
I`ve only tried GO`s teen a. I didn`t think there was much of any.
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Bad User profile
It`s not the pip but the cough that`ll get ha.
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Woman can use it??how many times week????
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mixalhs patsalou User profile
yes but i strongly recommend using anavar low dose if you want to stay a woman, if u want to lose weight only clen or t3 are effective but could be dangerous, please be careful
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john dogget User profile
I would be advised as to to dial in on cardio and diet and use anavar only for women as above said, but its up to you, yes above is effective
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Shemale User profile Expert
I would use a very low dose. .25 to .5mg twice per week.
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Big Jake User profile
I personally would not recommend a woman to use this at all. I like big clits too… just sayin`… stick to 10mg per day of anavar and stay a woman. test and tren for women? even in small doses, I think it`s just a bad idea.
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MegaCycle User profile
I would stay away from it for women. Just run anavar at 5-10mg/day and eat clean and it will make a huge difference. Unless you are a professional female bodybuilder that competes regularly, you don`t want to run this.
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Mary Wagner User profile Expert
This is alright just low dose and make sure to have your blood work done. I wish you the best of luck.
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Hello Fellas CUT 150 How are the night sweats with these compounds?Ive run tren several times at a much higher dose My wife almost divorce me over the amount of time we had change the sheets each night. No historyo MPD in my family including mother`s father. Ive had thinning in the past again at higher dosages . I`m that this low dose will keep the thinning to a minimum. Anyone have that problem with CUT 150? Any way that hair loss can be avoided on 150I only have 3 Vials and I`d like to time it to work into the summer . I`m going to run Sustanon with itJust began HGH at 2 ius will run at least 6-12 months. I will increase up to 4ius looking 4 fat burning, an overwhelming feeling of wellness and put some some lean muscle on. At 48 I`ve almost run every compound in the past tren, Anadrol dbol all test masteron etc Once again thank you so very much
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Drew User profile
I would start off with like 1ml or even 3/4 of a ml eod and see how you feel. Pick up some caber and take it .5mg twice a week to avoid some of the tren sides.
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Larry User profile Expert
This is a mix only 50 mg tren ace so if you pin the same amount you will sweat the same amount.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Forgive me as I haven`t used the Cut150, but I do know how to get lean and ripped. Taking hgh 2iu/day for 1st 2mos then increasing to 3iu would be a great start. Add some Proviron in with your cycle 50mg/day. Tren, test and finish with a drying oral last 4 to 6 weeks ( Winstrol, Var). Train core eod 20 to 30min. Get all necessary macros in.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Night sweats come and go. Aimed get it every time they sleep some dont. I have heard late night carbs can effect this being that tren loves carbs and while you sleep your body is burning them up and cuase a temp increase. Now that`s just what I heard it could be true I tried a few time to limit carbs late in the day and it seemed to help but I sont knw6
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nickname_464 User profile
I am currently running it and find that as long as I keep my levels steady I don`t have hardly any sides. I take 2ml every other day. I take adex .5 every third day as needed. Hope this helps. Best of luck mate.
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Pookie User profile
Higher the tren the more likelihood of night sweats. You`ll have to take a lot of MLs to get high doses with this mix. Also tren and mast impacts hair big time. Take 1 ML of finasteride a day to help
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This would be my first cycle since 2016 , since then ive been working and traveling alot and put on a few pounds. Looking to cut up and build some muscle. Any recommendations? Im 37 , 5`7 232lbs
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JB205 User profile Expert
I`d start with a test cycle to get your body adjusted back to running gear. I came off a few years ago for 24 months with back to back deployments and went back on cycle. I made the mistake of adding too much too fast and had all kinds of sides. You could try 300mg to 500mg of test a week and maybe add in some EQ, it`s on sale as product of the week right now and it typically wont cause any sides with low dose.
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Barry Gibson User profile
Probably 500mg test per week to start is fine man. Restart it like that and work up on succesive cycles.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
for you I`d run test/eq/var 300-500mg of test a week 500-800mg is eq a week and 20-40mg of var a day run the oils for 16 weeks and the var for 6-10 weeks and you should get some good results
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.50 caliber User profile
i asked thi same question a while back because i took 2-3 year break. start off like your a beginer do a test only cycle first at 300-500 mgs get the most out of your gear by not going overbourd at first. you can add more compouns in every cycle after
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
1ml EOD maybe a little under 1ml EOD and see how that feels but it does shit if you don`t train hard and eat Alot of good fuel for the body
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Start back with a test only cycle and see how you do.
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I`m going to run a cut stack for the first time. Ingredients in the bottle are as listed. Testosterone Propionate 1000mg, Trenbolone Acetate 1000mg and Drostanoione Propionate 1000mg. Cut stack 300mg 10ml Carpe Dian Pharma. How long should I cycle it, how much should I injection and how often. I will be running this with just a 1/2 ml of testosterone taken every 3 days Also any other tips would definitely be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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novadesert007 User profile
Id do 8 weeks, I did Andromix which is same thing as this. Pinning could be every 2 days but I did every day for 8 Weeks and I got jacked!!!
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Will User profile Expert
Nobody can answer this without knowing your cycle history. Have you taken any of these compounds before? What dose did you work up to on them? If it`s your first time using any of these compounds, I wouldn`t go with a premix. Buy separate and only run test and the new compound so you know how it reacts with your body. The problem if you don`t have experience with all these compounds is you don`t know which might be giving you negative side effects.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
id say 8 weeks and pin every other day. syat safe and watch for any sides. good luck
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K.D.T User profile
8 to 10 weeks would be adequate since all are short Esters every other days pins is best dose would depend on your cycle history and experience
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N88 User profile
How many cycles have you done? At a minimum you`ll need to run 1 ML ED or 2 MLs EOD = 7 MLs a week which will get you 350 mgs per week of each compound. This mix is kinda a waste bc you wont feel any of the effects of Masteron since that compound is dosed way way too low in this blend.
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voodoo User profile
Cut mix has fast esters so 8-10 weeks cycle is suffice to see results. As for dose, and lack of info just take the same dose as test you`ve been taken without sides. This will correlate with dose of Tren and Dros as well since they are mixed. Have all ancillaries ready just in case.
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This is my first time doing the cut stack. Any tips about it and what to expect? Also I drink a gallon of water a day, should I increase that while running my cycle?
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skitt User profile
Well all depending on if you have ran tren before.. If Not, then maybe start at 1 cc EOD or even 1/2 cc EOD and if you handle it you can always bump it up.. Personally I`d run it daily at 1/2 cc daily and then asses tolerance.. If you have any extra prop you might want to throw that in as well.. Some handle the amount of test thats in it already but most add a bit more of test so its higher then the tren in total mgs for the week.. I think a gallon a day should be good but just watch your intake.. If drink to much water you can screw up electrolites and the symptoms from that are no fun man.. I`ve flushed my electos before and felt like shit for about 3 days tell I balanced everything out.. Nausa, headachs, achs.. it sucked but anyways a gallon should be good… good luck man.. You will have great results off of this..
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Karl User profile
Great stack and very powerful. Be careful with the dosing. Tren can be rough if you`ve never taken it before and don`t know what you`re doing. You will burn fat and get some de ent gains however remember less us more. Start of with a lower dose and increase as needed. 1 gallon of water a day is more than fine.
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nickname_88 User profile
It is indeed a great combo… I have ran this before while adding in Dragon Susta 350 for extra added test along with cycle.. I have ran this a few times.. first 2 cycles were 1ml eod.. the 3rd cycle was 1ml everyday and with everyday is where I saw the best results.. the only side that I experienced was night sweats from the tren.. but yeah, throw in some extra test with this and you`ll get some great gains along with some cut.. enjoy!
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patsalos mixalis User profile
A gallon is fine. watch yourself with tren its no joke go light on the doses and see first. read up about all the side effects to be prepared.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Lots of people talk about the horrors or tren and all of the sides ect, i suspect most have never even used tren because i have have never experienced all of these strange SE. but the one thing i do notice is increased night sweats and sweating in general, so you will absolutely want to increase fluid intake. people talk about gear and the liver and this is absolutely true but they tend to ignore the kidneys. This lifestyle is tough on the kidneys, high protein diet, constant muscle breakdown, cardio ect. Definitely increase fluid and look up a product called chitosan, its very renal protective and helps lower serum creatine. i use it every day. it supposably has fat burning potential but the studies dont support that but they do support the kidney protective benefits. kind of like liv52 for your kidneys. Anyhow i like this mix, or the andro mix 150. both a little low on test IMO but i love tren and masteron (drostanolone) like its oral counterpart proviron is a nice addition to any cycle. you should be pleased. good luck
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Cut some water if you are wanting to cut cut but a gallon is plenty do not over do water intake that`s a misconception
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Hello All. This was my most recent cycle – the cut mix 150. I did 450mg twice a week for a total of 900 mg a week, for 10 weeks. In all this was my furth cycle. I saw a little bit of muscle growth (but not much), some muscle hardening and a little bit of leaning out. I want to grow some more and am looking for recommendations on the next stack and quantity. Thanks guys!
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Lorddrip User profile
3500 Cal or more a day eat 5 meals or more daily most of growing is with your the diet and eating its eat eat eat shit without compounds you will grow for sure dbol any test don`t matter deca as well or tren but really it`s all in your diet and how much you eat daily is what is going to decide if you grow or not
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Trenbologna sandwich User profile
I’m 2 weeks into a cycle of sustanon 250 2x a week 400 mg tren ace weekly 50 mg Dbol daily have gained 12 pounds in first 2 weeks 282 to 294. Eating everything I can get my hands on very heavy training
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nickname_704 User profile
week 1-12 test 500-600mg (your choice ester) week 1-8 NPP 350-450mg week 8-12 Tren A 350-400mg week1-2 and week 10-12 tbol or dbol 40-50mgED optional 2-4iu hgh ED. With proper diet this will put on a great deal of lean mass make sure you have everything else you`ll need (do your research) adex caber pct or trt after. good luck!
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traianos123 User profile
u can try CUT LONG 300 from Dragon Pharma, also try to have a bigger intake of calories, good luck
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C30 User profile
I`d add some Tbol or Dbol on your next cycle. I wouldn`t go up on Test. Keep it the same. You can do 12-16 week cycle. As everyone has mentioned, eat a lot healthy food and train either 6 days or or you have time, 2 x a day for 6 days. Your body is recovering quickly so take advantage and train each body part twice a week. I typically eat 1 cup of cooked oatmeal before bed or I add it to my protein shake to increase quality calories. Give it try.
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Billy User profile Expert
Deca, anadrol and test e. 400mg of deca a week for 12 weeks, anadrol 50mg a day for 4 weeks and test e 500mg a week for 14 weeks. Have some AI one hand to counter estrogen
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3rd cycle, first time running tren A, what kind of results should I expect
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Will User profile Expert
Unfortunately this is an impossible question for anybody on here to answer due to AAS having very individualist responses and the lack of information provided. We would need to know your goal and if you`re eating in a calorie surplus or deficit. What your training intensity and method is. If you get enough rest to properly recover. Sorry, just way too generalized of a question. Tren is typically a hardening steroid that helps with losing bodyfat while boosting strength. However if you`re not following a proper diet or using a proper programmed training method, your results may be different or limited.
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Mr.smith User profile
Expect little results if you eat like crap and don’t train hard. Expect amazing results if you eat proper and train hard. Expect side effects either way. I recommend looking at some before and after videos that may be on maps, stay away from YouTube, a lot of that stuff is fake.
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skitt User profile
as will stated not a whole lot of info to go on here,,, which you can get a lot of different responses… Either way it`s all going to depend on if your trying to bulk or cut… In which everyone knows that has a lot to do with your diet and what your goals are… Now if your just a normal gym guy and not ever planning on competing Im going to presume that your just trying to pack on some lean quality muscle… And also in my honest opinion its your 3rd cycle, WHY do Tren?? so much you can do with other compounds that you havent even done much yet… so whats the rush?? I know people will do what they want to do and I get that but honestly theres a lot you havent experienced yet.. I have double the cycles under my belt and still havent tried Tren yet,,, I want to but Im having fun watching my body transform over time with other compounds…Either way if diet is on point you can expect to get harder more dense and full muscles as well as vascular but again that depends on your training as well… Definitly have strength gains.. all in all your trying to take the most powerful and harshes compound out there… Do some research and look things up… but if I were you I would wait awhile before doing tren bro and take your time with other compounds and learn about them first.. good luck
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swol User profile
Well, generally speaking I make great lean hard gains with tren that I tend to keep. I run tren in most cycles and love it. It would help to know diet, what youre running with it. Tren works great for bulking and gutting. My favorite is tren, susta and winny. never lets me down for lean hard gains. As long as I keep it below 200mg a week with the exception of increased sweating and night sweats I have no other sides. I have caber but truthfully have never had to use it. I feel great and love tren it is highly anabolic, this mix isnt just tren and I used Andromix or whatever ( i think they are the same its just GPs version) every other day with 1cc of susta350 every week and 8 weeks of winny and found it exceptional
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BABA User profile
Start at no more and no less than 50 mg every other day. It`s all you need for about 8 weeks. If you`re already lean then expect crazy pumps, vascularity, muscle bulging and definition. Expect a lot of side effects potentially as well. Sleep issues, acne, mood changes, etc.
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JB205 User profile Expert
I saw awsome results on cut mix. Dropped 6% body fat without eating clean and felt strong as hell.
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What”s the best dosage for maximum results, 1 cc per day or 1 cc eod? Any suggestions? Using this for a cutting cycle, 2nd time running tren.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
It’s hard because it’s a blend but I would say 1mL a day would give you the best results. Every other day just doesn’t seem like enough to be honest. Give it a try and if you need to adjust it than you have a baseline.
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Fit_mom User profile
Ed for short esters works well for me. This keeps levels the most level. Some have indicated at least for tren taking it ed rather than eod seems to keep night sweats lower. But everyone seems to respond to all geat slightly different. Good luck
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skitt User profile
Depends on how your body responded to Tren first time around and if you used Acetate or E… For most I believe they would do 1cc a day but I think you can get away with EOD…just depends on what you want for a dosage for the weeks.. Ive done enough cycles to do Tren but still havent yet as Im still gaining off other compound and experementing with mixing things up and it works,,, So one day Ill take the plunge into tren but Im not in any rush.. Although I have been tempted to try this out,,, Now for me if I was trying this out and it being a new compound I would do half a ml per day then add a little more prop through out the week,, but thats just me as I know I would have awesome results with that… Plus I dont mind taking my time with AAS.. You could start with half a cc a day for first week or two and see how you feel and if you think you can handle more then bump up to 1 ml a day good luck
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nickname_88 User profile
I never ran Dragon Pharma`s blend of this but I have ran Geneza Pharmaceuticals Andromix a few times.. it is the same blend as this and yes I have ran other Dragon products though and they are all very good quality.. I ran this the first 2 cycles eod and saw good results.. the third cycle I switched up and ran every day and I saw even better results… Short esters can be ran eod but for maximum benefits, every day is key.. So if you`re stocked up good, I would advise every day for best results..
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nickname_518 User profile
I would start with eod but if you feel you need to then go to every day
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Alex User profile
These are all shorter esters so i would suggest eod but you can also do every day.
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Injection pain shooting every other day and just too sore to continue my glutes are so sore and any help would be great just dont want to have to stop my cycle
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Joe User profile Expert
You did say how much you are pinning. Give each site as much time as possible before pinning into it again. Rotate injection sites. Do left delt, right delt, left glute, right glute and so on and use a 1.5″ needle to go deep enough into muscle.
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Nashdaddy User profile
Be sure to spend some time after injecting massaging the area firmly and helping to disperse the injection. Rotate your sites. Some soreness is ok but it shouldnt Be unbearable.
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Swoleville User profile
Try a 1 inch needle. Rotate your injection sites. I pin eod and rotate right glute left glute. Right shoulder left shoulder
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Will User profile Expert
Do you rotate your injection spots? Glutes, quads, delts, chest. If your injection frequency is high, make sure you`re rotating. You`ll build up a lot of scar tissue quick if you don`t and the injection spots won`t heal in time for your next. One route you can also look at in using insulin needles. I began using them when my injection frequency increased. As long as you`re a lower bodyfat, you can still pin IM with insulin pins. If a higher bodyfat, you may need to stick with what you have.
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Scott User profile
Fast acting esters my dude. They can hurt. Are you pinning correctly? Are you heating up the oil before you draw or pin? Are you massaging injection site for 30-60 seconds after you pin? Rotate your sites. Hit the glutes, VG, and delts.
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Anabolix250 User profile
Once you draw it in your syringe try running it under hot water for a minute or two right before you inject. Dont try to inject too quickly. Slow steady administration is the best way. When your done massage the area thoroughly. I always pin before my evening shower and let the hot water run over the injection site and massage it at the same time. I inject in my glutes only and rotate left to right even with short esters EOD. I also change the injection area just slightly up or down to keep off of the sore area from the last injection. Doing all of this has helped me combat the short ester PIP. Even after all that is still get soreness in which case I take a few inuprofen and that always does the trick. Hope this helps. Good luck!!!
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Whats the best cutting agent on this website to trim off the stubborn fat to rip my stomach up & also make ya gain some lean strong muscle at the same time?
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Acfit User profile
Your diet needs to be in check before anything for getting lean and cutting up. If you have proper nutrition and add some cardio, Trenbolone would be my all time favorite for putting on lean mass and cutting. Make sure to add some Test, even at a Trt dose of 125mg a week so your testosterone doesn’t shut down.
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Kayler User profile
Ive heard good about tren and helios (but thats for fat only), also deca can be used for cutting to a point but at the end of the day if you dont have the proper diet and exercise designed for what exactly what you want, your not going to get your desired results
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Joey ricci User profile
Winstrol, clenbuterol, tren, drostanolone (masteron) are all good but first Make sure your diet is good, as low sodium as you can, cut out the sugar and hugh fructose corn syrup. Oatmeal, chicken, fish, rice, and vegetables. Also try fasted cardio in the am before you eat and hit abs right after cardio.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Diet is the most important thing to put I. Your body. People think a magic drug el do it all and it`s not the case. Food clean food..and Any cut mix from 24roids with correct food and workout high rep low rest will lean cut shred your ass up
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N88 User profile
Diet first and if you are experienced user tren works very very well. there are also good products like carderine and other fat burners that are safe. Lots use clen but it can be dangerous at high doses
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Winstrol injectable. It’s better than the oral but you need to inject daily. But this is the best cutting agent in my experience
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Hey everyone. Just joined this website. I used to be into working out every single day after a back surgery. Problem is i used to get all mys stuff from a cousin of mine in san diego & i would tell him i want a bulk cycle or cut cycle. Then he would send it. I dont have the slightest idea what the names or brands were. So im hoping you guys can help me out. What is the best cut cycle in your opinions. Im lookin to do one bulk cycle & two rips. Gonna shred this fat off me. There isnt much. Im 5`10″ 165 athletic build but im tryna get back to being as strong as i was & look how i used to look.. any help?
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Answer User profile
You did not give any information as to when you had your surgery but I am guessing your last cycle was well over a year ago. If this is the case I would reccomend a low dose of test, possible combine this with winstrol. I`m no expert but I know you dont jump right back into something that you haven`t done in a while. Make sure you have your AI and PCT on hand when you start the cycle. Start with a low dose of test (300mg-350mg per week). Then introduce the winstrol later on IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN HANDLE IT. Treat this like your first cycle, don`t run too many compounds and listen to your body.
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Will User profile Expert
Jm not saying this to come off as insulting, I`m saying this to help you, and that`s to do your research on all the different compounds, what they do, and the health issues they can cause. You`re pretty tall at a low bodyweight which doesn`t sound like you hit your natural limit. Do this naturally before looking at using illegal and health threatening compounds. Eat in a calorie deficit and train with high intensity to cut bodyfat. Increase calories to a surplus and continue the high intensity training to build muscle. I highly recommend you get that down and reach your goals naturally and then down the line when you`re a heavier bodyweight and lean, then look at adding AAS.
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N88 User profile
If you are 100% healthy and recovered from surgery use test only at 300-400 mgs for 12 weeks….test C or test E. If you are still in semi recovery you should really wait to do a cycle but really low dose deca like 200 a week is really really good for joint recovery or recovery period. 200 mgs would be considered therapeutic…really even a lower dose would work too.
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omeed haji User profile
Do test e 500mg a week and 200mg Deca like they said Deca is best for joint and take 30mg of dbol every day do it for 12 week and 6 week dbol
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anonymous255 User profile
Bulk on testosterone enanthate 250 at 500mg for 10 weeks and 4 weeks of dbol at 30mg first 4 weeks. For cut use testosterone 250mg at 250mg a week and masteron enanthate at 400mg both for 10 weeks. Use winstrol 10 at 40mg for last 4 weeks of cut. Use Geneza pharma for brand.
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Ryan User profile
Use a test e only cycle just to gauge where you are and its effectiveness on you, theres a pre built stack on this site that includes it, and make sure to use a pct and AI
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hey guy i quit my workout 2 1/2 year ago, by that time i was buy my first testosterone mix but never used, i keep with me on my home, 77-75 degree temp ambient all time, never opened, i dont see any due date, is still usable or for be safe should not what u guys think?
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
I can already tell there will be commenters telling you it`s okay to use. I personally wouldn`t risk it. I never go cheap-skating for things that I inject into myself, and that includes injecting old inventory just to save a few bucks on buying new. You don`t even see date of manufacturing on the label. It`s too risky just to save a few bucks. I`d order new.
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lord User profile
I personally wouldn`t use it if it didn`t have an expiration date on it. You never know what type of separation you can have.
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Jack User profile
Not worth the risk honestly (im sure you would be fine but still theres no need to take the chance)
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
You`re here on 24roids so you know where to get good gear. It looks like you linked the dragon pharma cut150. Personally I`d run that shit. 1 bottle isn`t gonna last you though so I`d get a whole cycle worth and just add in the potential totally expired gear. If jts not from 24roids I dont know if I would run it
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N88 User profile
Was it home brewed? If not it`s still good. Regardless, it`s so easy and cheap to buy gear better off buying a new batch. Also it`s pretty strange if its not home brewed to NOT have a exp date…they all do.
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How many vials would i need for one cycle? I`m new to all this but have heard from friends they get great results off this.
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Will User profile Expert
You do NOT want to do the Cut Mix if this is your first cycle. You don`t know how your body will respond to one compound, let alone the multiple compounds in this. I highly recommend you so some serious research on AAS to really weigh if you want to potentally mess up your health by running cycles uneducated. Testosterone is always your base, so it makes logical sense you`d start with just Testosterone low dosed and see how your body responds. Then if you like it and are okay with the increased risk, running Test again at a higher dose. Then adding other compounds. But do extensive research first because you do damage to your health listening to friends.
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Beard User profile
That depends on ur dosing. Theres 10 – 150mg doses in a bottle. So once you figure out what ur going to use just get enough for at least 8 weeks I`d say. 1cc every other day would last you like 2 and a half weeks per bottle. If this is ur first cycle tho tren is pretty strong stuff. Theres other options to cut up.
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mchilds User profile
If this is your first cycle do not do this mix. You will quit the cycle a week in due to the side effects without having an immense knowledge of how to manage your LH, FSH, Prolactin levels, determining your sides based on either high estrogen vs high prolactin, night sweats, severe insomnia, impotence (even if you are taking the right dosages), as well as acne and mood alterations to name a few. You would be better off getting the most out of a solid test cycle.
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smithpress User profile
I appreciate your ambition and i would agree to try a test only cycle first. BUT if your gonna do it anyway. You will want to do 1cc EOD for at least 12 weeks. Thats roughly 5 bottles. But you need to order some caber and arimidex. Take the arimidex if your boobs become tender take the caber if your boobs produce milk or you cant get hard. Also order some pct tabs from dragon pharma. Take those after your cycle. Again i do highly recommend you dont do this if its your first cycle. Honestly the product of the week is sustanon 350 and you could order 2 bottless of that and have a nice cycle of 700 mgs of test a week for 10 weeks and you would see great results for 60 dollars instead of the 600 cycle i described above.
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evanjohnson347 User profile Expert
You probably do not want to use this for your first cycle and should opt for just test instead. However, you would need 4 of these vials if you were going to inject eod for 10 weeks.
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nickname_537 User profile
As a beginner use 500mg test per week max. No more. Cut mix rod. 5 vials should be fine for the cut mix. If adding more test make sure the total is not over 500mg per week altogether and match the ester. As per sides have arimidex and pct in place. Some don`t get sides some do. But proviron also inhibits estrogen so you can use that during cycle like 50mg to 100mg daily. It effects shbg rendering other steroids more effective. Proviron is not as strong as arimidex as per estrogen control, but that`s exactly it. .. even men need some estrogen because it works with test to build muscle. No need to reduce it too much unless needed then you can resort to arimidex, but I always use proviron just for the enhanced effectiveness it gives other steroids (secondary benefit is it blocks estrogen too).
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ROBERT User profile
If this is going to be your first go around and you`re looking to cut I would be hesitant to use this for my first time maybe try a testosterone Propinate and maybe Winstrol. You might be just fine with the test for being your first time. eb5qyvv
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N88 User profile
Just run test for your first cycle. You`ll get great results from test alone. This three way mix is pretty costly because really to run it right a non beginner will have to do 2 cc`s three times a week which equals 6 to 7 bottles. Lots of other options out there to get the same compounds for cheaper.
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Massgains User profile
I’m going to start by say dragon is by fare my favorite line of gear 24roids carries. So for the cut mix I would run it at 1cc eod. Each bottles will last you 21days. I would say go with 4 or 5 bottles. That will last you about 4 months. Four month is a good first cycle length.
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Would avoid art and Dutagen combat hair loss for this cycle?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Yes it can certainly help, but considering that masteron is a DHT it may still affect your hairline if you are prone to male pattern baldness. I would avoid DHTs altogether if you are that concerned about it.
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D-man User profile Expert
These will help curb the conversion from Testosterone to DHT, butlike Evan said Drostanalone (Masteron), is DHT. If you have male pattern tendencies, Avodart will not help when taking it.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
No, dutasteride will not help. Masteron and trenbolone are very harsh towards the hair, probably the harshest possible in terms of hair loss side effect. Androgenic side effects should be expected, regardless of using dutasteride. If you are predisposed to male pattern baldness, you should avoid these two components. Dutasteride + testosterone only will be a WAY better option if hair loss is your consern.
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john smith User profile
Hair loss is mostly genetics, avoiding DHT will certainly help. ..
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
First off adovart and dutagen are the same compund dutasteride. As previously stated, male pattern baldness is mainly genetic with that said the addition of more dht into the system will accelerate this, which is a good thing if your just running testosterone because it will block the 5-alpha enzyme that converts the test to dht, unfortunately with tren and mast it doesn’t work the same since Masteron is already a dht androgen dustateride only works to stop the conversion to dht.
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Don O User profile Expert
Dutasteride is an excellent DHT conversion blocker for testosterone but wont stop androgenic allopecia from the trenbolone and since masteron isnt effected by the 5a-reductase enzyme it wont help with that either. It will help reduce the total effects of your cycle slightly (from the testosterone) but tren and masteron are pretty hard on the hairline.
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What hcg would you recommend with this 150 cut I`ve never used hcg before and when should I incorporate it into my cycle and how much,is this a injectable or oral
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D-man User profile Expert
HCG is usually taken during cycle at 250iu twice per week. when to start this depends on how long you are going to run this cycle. You could start at the beginning of the cycle and run it all the way through, but I would suggest waiting until a few weeks in. It takes a while before it is even necessary. The cut mix should be taken by IM injection. HCG is usually taken as a sub Q injection. You will also need an AI on hand. Have your PCT on hand and planned out as well. And it might not hurt to have some caber just in case you have prolactin issues with the Tren.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
The cut mix is oil that is to be injected into muscle. You don`t need HCG during the cycle but you will want some afterwards to kick start your HTPA. On cycle with this stack you want some arimedex or aromasin to keep your estrogen in check, and possibly some caber for the prolactin effects of tren. I always have nolvadex on hand in case I get any breast sensitivity on cycle. For the HCG you want to wait until your almost off cycle and blast it for ten days. With the short esters in the stack you want to start HCG 7 days before your last pin of cut mix. Use the HCG at 1000iu a day for 10 days and then start your Clomid and or Nolva. Continue taking your AI until you start your Clomid/Nolva to keep the estrogen from the HCG induced test in check.
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N88 User profile
Lav`s protocol is solid. At a minimum you can start HCG right after your last pin and dont overlap into PCT. Never run HCG longer than 17 days after your stop taking anabolics.
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nickname_537 User profile
Only hcg I`ll ever take is rhcg. R is for recombinant and it`s synthetic. Regular hcg without recombinant written on it is real piss eerived hormones and the medical literature I`ve read and logically so simply will not guarantee it is 100% disease free. Besides why inject piss in your body or piss derived items man? R8ght now i have about 12 12,000 iu each of unconstituted hcg but i refuse to touch it. I`ll either sell it or throw it when it expires. If others don`t care and wanna pay to inject piss i can`t stop them, i can only advise them. Fortunately my insurance covered that damn piss hcg so it added up cuz i never used it after i found all this out. I think recombinant hcg is much more expensive so i might have to source it and buy it. They rather collect huge vats of piss because it`s cheaper to do so rather than use recombinant dna technology. But i don`t think the cost would be too high, maybe $15-20 more per vial.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Hcg start after last shot and run for 3weeks on last week I start clomid and nolva.this is what works for me
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Barry Gibson User profile
Hcg is for after your cycle. Nolvadex or clomid can take its place. RHCG with the “R” is for recombinant but regular hcg is piss derived and its medical insert (rightly so) simply cannot guarantee it is 100% disease free. RHCG is synthetic (artificial) therefore is guaranteed disease free. I`ll only take RHCG however nolvadex may cause eye problems but clomid seems ok…
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What is the best dosage for this product how many cc per week
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D-man User profile Expert
If you were to inject 1cc per day that would be a nice 350mg of Tren, Test, and mast per week. You could also do 2cc EOD, but the more often you inject, the more stable your blood levels will be. As with any cycle, the dosage would depend on a lot of things. Goals, cycle experience, health etc, but this would be a pretty good range for this mix.
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Don O User profile Expert
Typically guys run 2cc EOD like D mentioned and theres quite a bit of anabolic firepower in that to really reshape your physique. If youre new to tren maybe start off a little lower and up the dose after a few weeks, if you do 1.7cc EOD that works out pretty close to 300mg of each compound per week (297 to be exact).
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evan johnson User profile Expert
If you are not running anything else, than I would recommend 1cc eod or 525 mg per week. YOu do not have to use much tren to get great results from it, but if you start off too high and get too many sides, then your whole cycle will be ruined.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
The product contains trenbolone, the harshest, strongest, and most side effect unfriendly compound on the planet. If you don`t have much experience, I would strongly encourage that you start with 1cc every other day, run that for several weeks, then make adjustments if needed. The good news is that all three compounds are short ester, so you can easily adjust as needed, and effects will be felt within days. Enjoy!
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ltl trucker User profile
I have used this product. I used 1/2cc E/D, that was enough for me. Some people aren`t fans of pinning themselves every day. So you could do 1 to 2cc EOD. 1cc E/D or 2cc EOD is too much for me. I agree with social juicer, start small, then make adjustments later or next cycle
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Jaris User profile
2cc eod is a good option. It depends on your body, you need to do your blood work. And see, hows your body is responding to a compound.
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I just received this today, fast shipping! But I have a question. I bought this before reading the comments below regarding taking this as a first cycle. If I take it as a first cycle should I take less? And please expand on what you meant about aromasin and arimidex.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Yes it is generally a bad idea to use tren on a first cycle. That being said you should certainly take less, however the injections must still be frequent since the test prop and tren ace have a short half life and you will need to keep blood levels stable. Start with .5 ml injections eod and work up from there after a few weeks not exceeding 1ml eod. Aromasin and arimidex are aromatise inhibitors meant to combat estrogen related sides. A good idea especially considering it is your first cycle. You may also need caber to deal with prolactin related sides from the tren(again why tren isn`t usually a first cycle). If I were you I would hold off before injecting before you buy either aromasin or arimidex as well as caber. You can buy them all right here on 24roids.
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D-man User profile Expert
I know you`re not going to want to hear this, but I would suggest saving this for a later cycle. I`m not on here to lecture anyone, but my next suggestion would be to do an extensive amount of reading and research before starting any cycle. That being said, a good beginner cycle would be 500mg of test C or test E per week. I would split that into two injections of 250mg. You may also need an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) such as Aromasin or Arimidex. When you`re body has excess testosterone, your Aromatase enzymes will convert some of this testosterone into estrogen. This will cause estrogenic sides such as bitch tits, and water retention. The AI will help combat this. You will also want to order everything for your post cycle therapy (PCT) and have that on hand before you start taking anything.
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Chris M User profile Expert
This is a great mix and one of my personal favorites. However, tren is a very harsh compound and not one i would ever recommend using for a first cycle. Of course the decision is yours but for a first time user, a simple test only cycle will give you amazing results if done properly. If you were to try this mix, even if your an experienced user, i still recommend started at below then average doses. You do not need much of this stuff! And you can get great benefits from a small dose and much less side effects. Most people dose this mix at 2ml EOD and that not bad, but in my opinion not ideal. Starting at 1ml EOD and increasing to 1.5ml EOD after 3-4 weeks would be much better. And then going to 2ml EOD a few weeks after that. If you train hard and eat smart you will get unreal results from this mix! As far as arimidex and aromasin go, they are for controlling estrogen. When you take testosterone or other `wet` compounds, some of it gets converted to estrogen. Controlling your estrogen is crucial and will kill your cycle if not kept under control. Personally i only use aromasin, as it is far more superior to arimidex. But either will do. The masteron in this mix has anti estrogen properties and will help, but it should not be relied on as your AI. With a small amount of test and the masteron in there some people dont even need to run an IA with it, but it should ALWAYS be kept on hand just to be safe. 12.5mg of aromasin EOD is a good starting point, but again everyones body is different.
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
In regards to this being a first cycle, most would say that tren is a no go. Most want you to understand the way your body deals with testosterone before adding compunds to the mix (so you know the effect of each). The advantage of the short esters you have chosen is if you do have harsh side effects, you can stop using the mix and the sides will go away much faster than longer estered gear. If this is your first cycle this is going to be painful for your injection sites as you are not used to pinning and you need to inject every other day. Since it is your first cycle I would keep the dosage low and the cycle short. One cc of the mix every other day will yield great results and should be tolerated well in regards to injection site pain and sides.You do need an AI for this. The difference between arimedex and aromasin is that arimedex lowers your estrogen while you are using it by blocking conversion from test to estrogen, when you stop taking it, it frees up the enzymes to again start converting. The aromasin will lower your estrogen by destroying the enyzme that does the conversion so when you stop using it there is no potential for estrogen rebound.For you either would work with this cycle. Adex at .5mg every three days or aromasin at 12.5 mg every 4 days would suffice. Do some research on cabaser. At a low dose progesterone should not be an issue, but as the dose goes up it will be required.Good luck and welcome to the dark side
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Chip User profile Expert
The Cut Mix 150 for a first cycle will make a significant impact on your physique and you`ll be extremely impressed with the results. Testosterone and masteron are relatively easy to tolerate its only the trenbolone that may give you some noticeable side effects, nothing out of control but some users find trenbolone sides annoying such as night sweats and the occasional tren cough. As a first time user I`d dial down the dose just a touch to maybe 1.8cc EOD which will give you about 315mg per week of each compound and run that for 8 to 10 weeks. The only aromatizable compound in the mix is testosterone and thats why you may need to add an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex or exemestane to keep estrogen levels low. Start on the low end because your testossterone wont be too high, maybe 12.5mg EOD of exemestane or .5mg EOD of arimidex.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
You could certainly reduce the dosage to mitigate the possibility of side effects, but this is still a poor choice for a first cycle, as Trenbolone is the harshest steroid on the planet with the most extreme side effects. A simple testosterone cypionate or enanthate cycle at 400mg per week would be a good first cycle. Aromasin and Arimidex are what you call Aromatase Inhibitors, aka an “AI”. When you take high levels of anabolics, your body converts some of the excess testosterone to ESTROGEN, which can cause a range of side effects. Aromatase inhibitors address the elevated estrogen issue and prevent or reverse side effects like bloating, gyno, acne, loss of libido etc. Generally speaking, you should have some on hand anytime you are taking anabolic steroids. A good starting does of Aromasin is 12.5mg every other day, Arimidex would be 0.25mg every other day. HOWEVER, with this particular stack of steroids, you are unlikely to need and “AI”, especially if the dosage is low.
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Phillip User profile
I think why people would be reluctant to recommend this as a first cycle is mainly because.. you`re not aware of how your body will react to the hormones so to mix 3 things into 1 shot could turn negative if you can`t figure out which compound you`re reacting negatively to (if you react negatively)… also for these compounds.. you`re going to feel a LOT of kick if its your first shot and you have such short esters, I can almost guarantee you that you`re going to feel like someone kicked your ass.. as far as the aromasin/arimidex I didn`t see what exactly you meant so I`ll just say that aromasin is superior to adex (in my opinion) because its a suicidal estrogen AI, meaning its much less likely to crash your estrogen while adex can easily crash if overdosed.. but again the dosage is related to how you react to these hormones, but to start I would say 12.5mg aromasin E3D since the mast is also slightly killing your estrogen.. but thats very much a shot from the hip and thats personally what I would feel.. you could start with that but keep an eye on estro sides (puffy/itchy nipples) and dose accordingly.. get bloods if possible… and finally as far as your dosage I would recommend no less than every other day… slowly build up to every day (in my opinion) but you might have trouble because like I said.. this shot is gonna leave you in some pain since its a virgin muscle.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Well I personally wouldn’t recommend using this as a first cycle, because tren is the harshest of all steroids and some people just don’t do well on it, and for this specifically the frequency of injections could turn some off. If you do choose to cycle it I would take .5ml or 1/2cc everyday to see how you take to the mixture. As for the aromasin/arimidex thing I hope you would be smart enough to have an ai in your cycle because tren/test can both aromatize and cause gyno. If this is your first cycle it sounds like your not ready no offense is do some more research and get some different compound to see how you do on aas
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Levi Adams User profile
I wouldn’t recommend this for a first time user. I would start off with a 12 week cycle of test c or e at 250mg twice a week pinning on Monday and Thursday. Once you’re a few cycles in then I would recommend taking the cut mix. Aromasin and arimidex would be your on cycle support or in other words estrogen control. If you’re just doing test arimidex will work fine. I hope this helps.
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Justin Schlonger User profile
24roids always has the fastest shipping! I would recommend that you take it how the plan is laid out, unless you feel like it would work best for you to take less. I don`t recommend doing that though, because you would just be replacing natural testosterone and not doing anything more. Aromasin and Arimidex are both AI. They both work the same but different for each individual. It really depends on how your body responds to each one. I highly recommend always taking one while on cycle, gyno is a real b*tch to get rid of without surgery.Hope this helps!
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I have cycled test and tren a few times, never this mix, the test dosage seems low to me. Just wondering if it is necessary to supplement with additional test, maybe additional cyp 250 once a week?
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evan johnson User profile Expert
No it is not necessary given it is test prop and you will be injecting at least eod for a minimum of 150-200 mg per week. Not to say that you can`t add in more test or other anabolics but it would NOT be necessary.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
This all depends on how frequently you inject, and at what quantity. Most inject propionate estered compounds EVERY DAY, so if you injected 1ml daily, you have 350mg of testosterone and over ONE GRAM of gear per week, which is a pretty high amount. Keep in mind this mixture is intended to be used as on a cutting cycle. Adding additional testosterone would likely provide little benefit, while at the same time leaving you susceptible to bloat / water retention – not exactly a good scenario during a “cut” cycle.
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A Bruhl User profile Expert
Cut Mix 150 is a standard Test/Tren/Mast all-in-one blend with equivalent amounts of each compound. Different individuals react differently to each drug and if you prefer higher levels of testosterone without increasing the amount of Trenbolone and Masteron then supplementing with a Cypionate or Enanthate may suit your goals.
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J.P. User profile Expert
The best way to answer this is by referring to your previous cycle. Did you run testosterone higher, lower or the same as Trenobolone? Whatever you did in the past, providing it worked out well, repeat that here. That may mean bringing extra testosterone into the picture. It may mean this mix isn`t right for you. If you find that extra test is the answer, my preference is to stick with the same esters, and pick up the test from the same lab. In my experience mixing esters when Trenobolone is involved can make for a hard time controlling sides. That`s not to say it can`t be done. Just that in my experience it`s been better fitted for those with a good bit of cycle experience.
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Matthew User profile
My suggestion for ALL cycles of this nature is as follows. If your goals are sheer mass with potential for it to be nice lean mass if diet and cardio are on point then I hugest running this at around at least 6 ccs a week spaced out. This gives you 250 mg of each product test prop, tren a, and mast p. Now in ANY cycle I suggest based on your goals to either run your tren higher than your test or your test higher than your tren by at least 200mg per week. If your goal is the leanest shred you can achieve them your diet is extremely key and in this case I would run 6ccs a week of this product as I stated, but I would then add additional 300 mg of tren ace a week. This will bring about SIGNIFICANTLY larger results in the shredding aspect with the tren being higher than your test. If your goal of your cycle is to stay lean but to add more mass, then do the same thing 6ccs a week minimum of your blend, and add an additional 250-500mg of test e to this cycle. This cycle would add a substantial amount of mass to your cycle, however keeping you leaned toned and shredded from your tren and hopefully your diet. Another thing to think about is if libido is an issue for you ALWAYS run your test higher than your tren. If you run your tren higher than your test depending from person to person the person with higher tren will run into some erection or libido complications which is what happens to me. So in the end, if goal is more mass orientated, add 250mg+ extra test e, or c to your shot regimens. If your current goal is to be as lean and vascular as possible, then keep your test from your cut blend but add an additional 300-400mg if tren a week to your cycle and your results either way will be PENOMINAL. choose your cycle based on your person goals.
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First timer with anything. Is this cut mix good and what else should I get if needed while on cycle and off.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
This this mix is good although I`d recommend not using tren on your first cycle. If you elect to do so anyway, I`d recommend having caber on hand as well as either aromasin or arimidex. For PCT use get clomid and nolvadex.
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Thomas Baumann User profile Expert
This cut pre-mix is considered an intermediate to advanced cycle, for a first timer use dragon pharma testosterone cypionate 250. Order two bottles and run for 12 weeks at 400 mg per week ( two 200 mg shots run 3-4 days apart). Make sure to also purchase Nolvadex (at least 40 tabs of 20mg) for your post cycle therapy.
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mike vanacore User profile
first cycle stay away from mixes until a few cycles in. start off with straight up testosterone. your first cycle will be your best. stick with the basics. test cyp..test enanthate..or sustanon. youll see some sides as you increase mg sueing the cycle. start with 250 and go from there. next cycle add another compound. as you get used to doing it
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J.P. User profile Expert
For a first timer, running a compound that includes Trenobolone is probably not the best option. Introducing your system to anabolics will require some getting used to enough as it is, throwing something like Trenobolone on top of that is just asking for trouble. Essentially what I`m saying is, if something goes wrong, is it the tren, test, or???? However, if you run testosterone only as a first cycle, you`ll know exactly how you respond to test. So the next cycle, when you add something else into the mix, if you have problems you`ll be able to target what is causing them and take a precise corrective approach to getting back on your way to achieving your goals. This is a good mix. Just wait until you gain some more experience before going with something as powerful as Trenobolone. A good place to start is in the pre-designed stacks section. Here, 24roids has all you`ll need for beginner cycles including one for post cycle therapy. So to sum it up, test only for a first cycle and use a pre-designed PCT stack. The only thing else I`d add is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor like Aromasin or Letrozole.
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What’s a good post cycle treatment for this. Wanting to do my 1st ever cycle. Any info is greatly appreciated
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
For this I would take hcg from midway through cycle at 250iu twice a week, and nolva and/or clomid as soon as you stop injections at 40/40/40/20/20 for nolva and 100/100/100/50/50 for clomid. But I’d personally stay away from tren if it’s yours first cycle.
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What is a normal cutting cycle for this product?
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Jared Lord User profile
If you are a first time user then you can start by doing 1 ml to see how it reacts. If you can hamdle it then 1 ml everyday. I personally use 2ml eod
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
This plus Masteron, adex, and caber for the length of the cycle and to add in for cutting winni or var from weeks 6-12 of the cycle. Remember var is more side effect friendly so I suggest that but winni is as effective and cheaper just with more sides so up to you and if you wanted to you could throw in some clen and hgh into the cycle.
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Dan Drought User profile
1-2cc`s 3x a week
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evan johnson User profile Expert
I would recommend 1cc every other day to keep blood levels the same given the short half life of the test prop.
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bigmurph User profile Expert
Short and sweet with great results is to take the cut mix at 1ml every other day or(eod) for 8wks. This will be plenty of mgs of each compound its basically 200mgs of each compound a wk. This would be what I would reccomend to someone who is using these compounds for the first time. It would also be good because even though you should still get caber. 5mg and arimidex 1mg to have just incase you probably won`t need to use either at this dose. You should have minimal sife effects with solid gains.If you want to up the dose and take 1ml every day (ed) for 8wks during the cycle then you would be around 400mgs a wk and you would get stronger results but stronger side effects also and you should have arimidex or aromasin to help control estrogen levels plus caber to help control progesterone levels on hand just incase you need to combat estrogen levels or progesterone levels.The good thing about this cut mix is the synergy between the compounds is great and test prop with mast prop helps control the estrogen so you probably won`t need an aromatase inhibitor to control estrogen. The trenbolone acetate is a nor19 compound so you should have atleast some caber. 5mg on hand just incase you have progesterone issues.For your PCT you should run 1 wk after your last injection Wk1&2 100/40 clomiphene/nolvadex Wk3&4 50/20 clomiphene/nolvadex After you finish your pct wait 2 wks and then you should run a female hormone panel I know that it sounds funny but a female hormone panel will test for everything that you need to know about including estrogen,levels, progesterone levels, testosterone levels, fsh and lh.If you`re still shutdown and not producing your own natural testosterone levels run another 4wks of clomiphene at 50mg a day. After that if you still can`t regain natural levels TRT is an option that you might need to look into.Some will say to use HCG you can but with short esters and running for 8wks I don`t believe that it`s needed.