Gonna do a cycle of test e and deca, what`s the recommended dosage for both and how long to run?
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POOKIE2 User profile
I run test e and deca often and 500 mgs test with 300 mgs deca a week as a first trial works pretty good. Sides are still super low at these doses and normally just AI support works. As always when running Nor 19s have caber on hand just incase. Good luck….stay swole!
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
If it`s your first cycle test only ip to 500mg per week. The reason is if you do a test deca cycle and developed acne or gyno or lump dick. you wouldn`t know what compound at what dosage did this if you did test only with no sides then second cycle added deca and broke out then you would know it was the deca and or test combinedNow if you have cycled before you can run the test up to 500 and deca from 300 to 400. 12 weeks. Deca takes a little more time to build up. Arimidex and caber on hand just incase good luck
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BB1 User profile
How many bottles for each to run 12- 14 weeks?
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
So if the test is 250mg per ml 2 ml per week is 500 so that`s 10 weeks. And if you get the deca thays 300mg per ml 1 ml per week 10 weeks. So you could do jus 10 weeks 2 bottles of tea 1 of deca 300. Or buy 3 and 2 and run it longer up to you usually by 10 weeks I m ready to come off
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POOKIE2 User profile
Sorry forgot length….I run test/deca a little longer since it takes a minute for deca to kick in….14-16 weeks normally.
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nickname_238 User profile
You can run your test at 500mg a week and the deca at 300-400mg a week. Run them both for 12-16 weeks. You can mix the test and deca in the same syringe, and split your injections up, twice a week. So on Mon 250mg of test and 200mg of deca. Same thing on Thursday. Enjoy the cycle ! Take care.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Test 400mg to 500mg weekly, deca 300mg maybe 350mg weekly. If first cycle test only at 500mg weekly because you need to know how test works before adding an additional compound. Cycle length about 12 weeks or so. Pct is hcg however no pct needed if you cruise on 250mg to 300mg test weekly during regular blast cycles after the cruise is done. Good luck man!
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Hi guys,I`m on TRT. My test levels are on the higher end of the range. But my body fat is quite high, currently at 21% body fat. Is a cycle of Deca with up dose of TRT would help me getting lean(less than 15% mark). If not, then which compound should I go for?
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
No it won`t. Its all diet dependent. And to frank it would make you look worse with water retention and bloat. How many cycles you got? If you`ve got big boy pants you could fuck around and try tren…… but please do research if you do. It will help lose some fat but there os a host of bad side effects that come with it. It is highly considered one of the last compounds one should try.
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SwollSparky User profile
I am no expert by any means but I do know that Deca is considered a “wet compound” which means you are likely to gain some water weight on it while gaining muscle. You should look into using a “dry compound” such as NPP which is nandrolone phenyl propionate. A couple more good compunds for losing body fat are clenbuteral, Cut mix, Winstol, or even equipoise. Tren Ace will melt the body fat off but you should always have a good ammount of experience before running any form of tren. Keep in mind that you always want to have some form of testosterone as your base. 24roids has other compounds to just do more reading but I dont suggest Deca for what your goal is. Good luck bro.
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Sal1507 User profile
Thanks for your repliesguys. Should I look into running HGH?
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Drgreenthumb628 User profile
Gh 2iu a day for fatloss if you considering that. But Before you mess with gear have your diet in check. No sense running gear if that is not dialed in. Best of luck nd do your fasted cardio
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Onyx User profile
The diet and cardio will make you cut. You can ad things like clen and hgh. Good luck!
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skitt User profile
Sal… I saw your other question and this one.. Your going to hear this a lot.. You can take EVERY DRY compound out there and its wont make you hit your goals unless you utilize it properly with your DIET… Meaning NO ONE compound is going to make you lose BF% except maybe HGH which would still be a long process.. Point Im trying to make is there is no point in trying a compound out and because you didnt like the results you switch to another one and then another one and so on.. Its not how AAS works buddy.. If you want to loose body fat, eat a lot of lean meats and food.. Cut out fats as much as possible unless it healthy fats such as your omegas.. Cut out sugars, and simple carbs… Put your body in a caloric deficit but slowly and get to around 1200 cal a day with lets say no more then 100 complex carbs.. Flush your body with WATER lots of water and clean out toxins bump up your cardio and do lots and lots of cardio… ramping up your metabolism and getting your body heat up while sweating will trumendosly help cut Cal.. Get in a lot of veggies.. Whole point of all this is by doing a lot of what has been suggested not just by me but by others as well, you will see your body fat go done.. Your weight my not change much but that doesn`t mean your not losing the fat.. after a couple months of doing this look at how your cloths are fitting and that will speak for itself… I can`t stress enough on the Cardio and Cal deficit that will be your biggest game changer and with a bit of upping your TRT dose to 400 mg a week for a full blown cycle the test will help all this out.. but you have to do your part on the diet and cardio… good luck bro
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Jaris User profile
I would recommend something different like anavar or tren, because deca is mainly for bulking
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Hey 24roids, I am 42 yrs old and on TRT. I want to add Deca for its therapeutic affects. What dose would you guys recommend?
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Barry Gibson User profile
200mg to 300mg per week. It lubricates joints but need test as a base.
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Michael Vasquez User profile
I would recommend 300mg since you`re on trt you already have your test base.
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Traipse User profile
I would recommend buying a pack of an AI and nolva just in case you get sides and agree with others 200-300 would give you what you are looking for.
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Susta User profile
250 mg a week is good for joint lubrication and overall good results. Just keep in mind Deca has a compound called Progesterone which will usually cause gyno. If you feel pain or sensitivity in your nipples take an AI as soon as possible, once the gyno grows large enough it`s difficult to reverse without surgery. Buy an AI and have it on hand.
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Big Jake User profile
I do the same thing. Usually a TRT dose for me is like 125mg. I up it to 200mg when taking deca as well. I use dragon deca 500 and pin 1/4ml twice a weel for 250mg per week. If I were on cycle I`d do 500mg test and 500mg deca or something else completely.
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jason User profile
100-200 is probably enough if you just want it for lubricating the joints. Higher for good muscle growth.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
250 mg every 5 days for life should have you right
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Chayseboii User profile
You don’t need that much as everyone is saying! I add 100-150 a week and I feel the results , with a little anabolic effect .
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Hi guys! I`m looking for some advice on my next cycle. I want to bulk without the bloat look. Please inform me if changes need to be made. I will be taking an AI and Caber on hand if needed. Test E 500 1-14/Deca 300 1-12/EQ 300 1-14/Dbol 50 mg 1-4. This will be my 4th cycle
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
With test deca eq and dbol your gonna have about 15lbs of bloat. No way around it wrong compounds especially test at 500 and the deca dbol holds lots of water. If your bulking inguess just deal with it. But if you want no bloat. 250 mg test per week. 350 tren per week. And you dont need any more then that I mean you could add masteron but with the tren you ll grow dry
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Unc33135 User profile
Your going to see bloat with that cycle. Mostly from the deca and dbol. If you dont want bloat keep the test and eq and switch out the others for masteron or winstrol/anavar.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
I would swap Tbol and Dbol. Focus on diet as well. You can also consider winstrol with the deca. I personally love Winstrol, but will only take with Deca or NPP due to its drying of the joints.
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Gearpeace User profile Expert
Drop the deca unless using for joint pain, then only do 150mg/week. Drop the Dbol and replace with Tbol 20 to 40mg/day or winstrol 50mg/day for last 8 weeks. Double the EQ to 600mg/week.
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novadesert007 User profile
I love TEST EQ DECA cycle, drop test to 400 and up your EQ. Deca seems fine by me. Dbol is good. Good luck
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Gear User profile
As a cycle it looks great, but will definitely cause bloat. For less bloat try upping the eq, dropping the dbol, maybe change for tbol. Hard to avoid bloat altogether imo.
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Please let me know what you think of my next cycle if I need to tweak it or what. This is my 4th cycle. Never done Deca before. I`ll be taking an AI and caber during my cycle. I appreciate all your input. Thank you Test E 1-14 weeks 500 per weekDeca 1-12 weeks 400 per weekDbol 1-6 weeks 40 per day
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Not a bad cycle. I`m always a believer that less is more and would lover test and deca by 150mg each. If you`ve never done Deca or any 19NOR compound, start smaller. With Deca being a much longer ester than most compounds, it`s going to take some time to build up. Starting to high may bring some unwanted sides. Get your AI and PCT now. HCG and caber or worth investing in also. Good luck
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traianos123 User profile
Very good cycle with good dosages, one opinion only, do the Dbol 30 mg/day, for me i see that is not good to pass 30 mg/day, i feel some bad palpitations if i pass 30mg.
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Cycle User profile
I think it sounds good only don’t use the caber unless you need it can you cut the Dieball down to four weeks
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Will User profile Expert
Deca and dbol are usually used during a “bulking” phase, so I`ll assume that`s what you`re doing. As long as you raise your calorie intake with the added drugs, you should have a good cycle. I`d however switch the dbol from the beginning of the cycle to the end of the cycle when you might be hitting plateaus in your lifts. The dbol would be a plateau buster. Also, dbol tends to take away people`s appetite. If you experience this at all, discontinue using dbol. You cannot grow if you cannot eat.
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mike User profile
I`d shorten your test to 12 weeks, deca to 9-10 weeks and definitely cut dbol to 4 weeks.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Looks solid man. Good luck with this cycle. It is a great stack to build muscle and gain strength. Your AI and caber will prevent sides
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What currency does 24roids receive.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
bitcoin, litecoin and you can also pay through wu and moneygram. There is aoption were you can deposit cash.
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Nickname_45 User profile
From personal experience USD. They take money gram, western union and crypto currency like bit coin. Good question.
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RecoveryProject User profile
24roids;24roids uses USD currency… for the longest time I did not trust nor did I understand how bitcoin worked. I took some time, watched some videos, and took the leap. Well worth it. If you haven`t done so already, take the time to learn about bitcoin, and how to use it.
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Will User profile Expert
USD unless you use crypto currency. Then you can use Bitcoin or litcoin.
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Murderface User profile
Cryto-currencies – bitcoin, litecoin, etc. Also Moneygram, Western Union, and RIA I believe.
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traianos123 User profile
the best and most easy to use is Bitcoin or Litecoin, also u can pay with Western Union. Learn about cryptocurrency.
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I took this to heal my knee and I liked the athletic advantages. I am sensitive to prolactin sides so I can`t do deca anymore and The caber made me feel terrible. What is a good option to replace deca with for people prone to prolactin build up?
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Anonymous User profile
Have you tried lowering the dose? If so did that help? Or why don`t you try to see a doctor instead of like leaning towards steroids to heal you up.. I`ve heard that YK-11 which is a SARM can help but I can`t quote on It
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Eq is similar in that it will help with collagen synthesis and recovery. However, it likely won`t alleviate knee pain. I`d still consider taking deca and just lowering the dose or caber dose.
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Drew User profile
I would go with primo at like 500-600mgs a weeks
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Barry Gibson User profile
Try eq for lean consistent gains. Use vitamin b2 in place of caber, it`s tons cheaper and will keep prolactin in place, 300mg to 500mg b2 daily.
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Deca User profile
Deca does not heal joints. People in these questions keep suggesting as it does! It only provides water retention in the joints and provides a “lubricated,” feeling. Primo is a mild anabolic, and can run Deca at 200mg for the effects your looking for.
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Mike User profile
Deca is not going to heal your knee!!!! Yes it`ll provide some relieve to it, but won`t heal it! Run it at a low therapeutic dose of 100-200mg and you`ll be good!
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Recently started using gear. I`ve never experienced in my life the amount of cramps which I`m having now. What is the mechanism behind AAS and getting cramps? How have you found ways to relieve them and stop them from starting in the fast place. thanks for your help
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Regan Blake User profile
Bro, using test very often causes flushing out some of the minerals. This is probabaly responsible for your cramps. The main minerals responsible for that are magnesium and potassium. Supplement these two eating lots of raw vegetables and fruit or buy a good vitamin complex. Also, stay hydrated all the time.
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JB205 User profile Expert
It`s hard to say what may be the issue or the cause without knowing what your running. My calves cramp when I run winny, so I just don`t use it. So unless you can narrow it down, then I would say just run a test base cycle first then slowly add other components to see if you have any sides.
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John User profile
Curious to know if you are just using Deca or Test and other AAS stacked. You cramping up could be being cussed what you`re using. Also could be many other factors. sure to keep hydrated. Around a gallon of water per day is standard. Don`t over train. Take some Liv52 for support
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Dan User profile Expert
I don`t see a direct link between aas and muscle cramp. I had cramps in my recent cycle with test/eq/var. var was new to me. I got lots of crazy pumps on var. it push me extra harder. I Got great abs definition for the very first time. Could be because you work out harder and sweating more and not replacing the water you lose through sweating and metabolic water. So that`s indirectly related. Drink more water. Hydrate while working out. I actually start taking magnesium pills now. In short, cramps equal dehydration and/or lack of mg2+.
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Big Dogg User profile
Drink a lot of water. Take Potassium and Magnesium in addition to a good diet. You dont mention what you`re using but dbol, winstrol and some others cause “muscle pumps” that can be painful. Not a lot you can do about those.
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Mary Wagner User profile
Make sure you are well hydrated. Check your blood test and potassium.
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When will geneza deca and test e or c be available again ??
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Matt Beard User profile
Ask 24roids, they will have a much better idea then any of us.
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TLT User profile
That`s a question for 24roids live support but doubt they will have an exact date for you. The good thing is we know it will be back at some point 🙂
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nickname_88 User profile
Best answer you`ll read on here is, click live support or 24roids and ask customer service.. 24roids has your answer better than we could answer for you..
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.50 caliber User profile
Only 24roids knows for sure there are so many things out of stock I think there’s something bigger than the Chinese holidays but that’s just my opinion
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Papi1266 User profile
Usually mean they are sold out, you can try asking 24roids if they know when the stuff will be available again
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Larry User profile Expert
Nobody harder knows. Submit a ticket to maps and since this is their brand they should know
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My question is not about Deca . I need to know what`s good SARM to take it . thank you for help
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Big Dogg User profile
24roids doesnt sell SARMs. You should be asking about that is a group/forum/site dedicated to that or one that sells them. Just to answer quickly though, no SARMs are good to take as there is little to no research on their safety and use in humans. You wanna be a Guinea pig go ahead. When your D dont work in a couple years hope that wont bother you.
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Papi1266 User profile
I would stay away from Sarms, you won`t find them here on this site. Good luck
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Matt Beard User profile
I have tried mk2866 and S4 and didn`t do much for me.
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bob User profile
no sarms here. they are not very strong either. dont need them man
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traianos123 User profile
U cant find SARMS here on 24roids, i suggest u take some AAS, u will have better results and they are more safe.
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gear hair no User profile
the results I got from sarms where the same as I got from just doing creatine_ save your money bro.. and get some real gear
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I`m currently using Deca 250mg a week and test prop 50mg EOD. Was going to run masteron e 200 a week and sust270 1ml a week after. I have clomiphene HCG and proviron on the way 4 PCT. Should I run PCT immediately after the DECA and test or run the mast and test and then do PCT. Going to end up being a 16 to 20week cycle. And would 2000iu twice a week be good for hcg after doing longer cycle. Thanks. also my diet is clean and I work out one and a half to three hours a day. Trying to do my first competition 2021. Bodybuilding classic physique.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
I would pct after the deca and start the second part after your done with your pct.
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Papi1266 User profile
I would definitely do you PCT after deca, always increase my test when I am using deca to counter the effects it has on your junk.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Hey BOR, do the PCT when you are completely done with steroid compounds. So after the 20 weeks. HCG can start at week 18 — I like to run it 500mg/week split in two. Masteron I would run higher like at 500mg/week as a finisher. I would not use proviron during PCT as it does not help get your endogenous test to reproduce. It will actually hinder this process. It`s great to use on cycle though. Thanks for the question.
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Jason Mikeska User profile
I would start the pct two week after your last shot
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nickname_88 User profile
If you`re running a test and deca cycle and want to stop there then of course run your pct 2 weeks after finishing your last shot of test… but if I`m reading your question right and you`re wondering about staying on a little longer continuing test and mast, there is nothing wrong no reason why that would not work just as fine to finish up your deca cycle.. you`re just staying on cycle longer and I do 20 week cycles all the time sometimes a tad longer, with heavier compounds.. so yes follow up with the test and mast well basically just stay on the test drop the deca and add in the masterton for the remainder to help dry you up some.. then start your full pct a couple weeks after your last test shot.. best of luck competing!
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J-Juice User profile
Yeah wait until about two weeks after your last shot before you start your pct. Make sure after a 20 weeks cycle to continue your pct for at least 4 weeks then wait an additional 20 weeks before starting anymore cycles
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I am on trt and my doctor requires I get blood work done every six months. How long do I need to cut out Deca for my blood work to be normal ?
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Lorddrip User profile
2 weeks just to be sure to make sure it all gets out of your system for sure might even be shorter for some people everyone`s different good luck
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Dromeo User profile
If you`re worried about your doctor cutting off you TRT program I would stay away from DECA. Some people say it can be detectable for 6 months. I`ve read that it can be detectable for up to a year. You can always just run your own TRT without your doctor and buy the testosterone from 24roids.
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Roid_Head User profile Expert
Deca is a very long ester. I`m not sure if it shows up in blood test but lets say it does show up in blood as test, its still in your system after at least 30 days.
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JB205 User profile Expert
So is your doctor running blood work or making you take a urine screen test. All the blood work I`ve had done never showed any toxic screen like drug test which identified substance by chemical make up, just testosterone levels, liver function, and several other test organ function test.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
3weeks maybe 4 will have the deca low enough to not show elevated level
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
But your TRT doc is not testing for the presence of deca so it doesn`t really matter how long it is detectable in your system. What you are asking is how long does it take to return to baseline. For me 2-3 weeks after my last pin things return to close to baseline. but everyone is different i would think if you gave it 3 weeks you would be fine
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I messed up with with the dosage on the last post so I redoing it ,but anyway I`m going to be starting my next cycle at the end of the month ,but my question is it ok to run test p at 100mg eod for 8 weeks and deca 200mg 8 weeks while on trt my current dose is 220mg and I`m not sure if the deca will affect my bloodwork. I do labs every 12 weeks or should I not even bother with it? Thanks in advance
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Dromeo User profile
Deca is detectable I`m blood for a relatively long time so I`m pretty sure it would affect your blood work but the recommended dose for deca is 400mg-600mg a week for 8-12 weeks. You running such a low dose in my opinion is a waste of your time and money. You won`t get the biggest bang for your buck.
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Big Dogg User profile
If you`re gonna run such a short cycle you need all short esters. That means test prop and NPP (nandrolone phenylpropionate) the short ester version of deca. Deca wont really kick on til week 4. Run both short esters at 100 EOD for 10 weeks. Save you TRT test and start it again the same day you do your last shot of prop or a couple days earlier. All your blood work should be back to normal on 2 weeks. Deca or NPP will have no effect on trt bloodwork. Maybe fuck up your lipids a bit.
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
It`s your life so you can run whatever you want but if your wondering if it will affect your trt bloodwork deca is a testosterone analogue so therefore it will show your testosterone levels to be raised in addition to the test your taking
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
You don`t run trt with a test cycle. You just increase your trt to a higher test dosage. As for deca 400mg per week is probably what you need to see anything along with your test. If your using test prop 50mg per day is fine then before last dosage start ba CV your test trt. Deca should be ran for 12 weeks takes about 5 weeks to be at highest level
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Jasonz User profile
A slightly confusing question however what you are wanting to do is blast and cruise. I agree with the others that your dosage of deca is a little low and your cycle a little short. If you dont want to run it for at least 10 weeks then change your deca to NPP. Your test dosage is fine. When you are finished doing this blast then simply go back to your trt dose. And yes your bloodwork will alter from your bloodwork from trt.
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Mr.Kim User profile
Everyone starts with labs who cares to be healthy now and later. Low Testosterone is only one of many side effects, some deadly. How are you managing you Hematicrit ? Where is Your HCG?
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I`m going to be starting my next cycle at the end of the month ,but my question is it ok to run test p at 350mg a week for 8 weeks and deca 200mg 8 weeks while on trt my current dose is 220mg and I`m not sure if the deca will affect my bloodwork. I do labs every 12 weeks or should I not even bother with it? Thanks in advance
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
It`s your life so you can run whatever you want but if your wondering if it will affect your trt bloodwork deca is a testosterone analogue so therefore it will show your testosterone levels to be raised in addition to the test your taking
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JB205 User profile Expert
Your labs will show higher test levels if you increase the dose. I would get blood work done before and maybe 2 weeks after going back to trt if you are trying to avoid your doc seeing higher test levels.
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similia similibus curentur User profile
Lab tests help you to analyze your hormone cascade and a list of other variables documenting your progression. Always get documentation it`s a page in your file for future analysis. On the other hand if you are living in a police state it is a weapon for the trillion dollar insurance racket. Remember when to give blood so you don`t die and tell a friend to have a CBC.
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nickname_464 User profile
Yes it will affect your lab values. If your worried about your test being to high then you might at least planning stopping the extra gear 2 To 4 weeks before lab work. Best of luck mate.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Yeah it will be effected just cut dose a few weeks before
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Deca will raise test levels,200 for 8weeks is pointless it takes 5 to kick in fully and that low will not give any gains,run 500 a week
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Okay I am currently running test prop equipoise Masteron and tren. I am about to switch to deca. What all could I keep running along with the DECA so far I was debating on taking the masteron out I`m almost finished with the tren and just run Deca with test propionate and the equipoise. Any feedback advice would help I have ran test cypionate alone that was my first cycle then I tried methyltrienolone with test patches and then I tried Deca and test I mainly use geneza. I started out with tren e 100 mg a week just to see how my body would react the third week I threw in 100mg of equipoise and I started using 50 mg of test propionate every other day my masteron and deca came a week ago. I`ve taken 50 mg of the masteron the first day and then 3 days later another 50 mg. It`s been 3 days since my last Masteron dose. when could I start the DECA I still have 200 mg of the tren e left. The masteron is gp mast 200 prop and enanthate blend. Thanks all.
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Skuchie User profile
Sounds like your running whatever product comes in the mail first, with no specific rhyme or reason. Did you make a plan ahead of time with specific goals or dosage schedules? You provide nothing in terms of body composition or experience with AAS, and I can only infer by your question that you have little experience, and only a basic understanding. With that being said, I`d objectively look at your results thus far and possibly drop everything but the testosterone, and hold your deca until your next order of testosterone comes in.
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nickname_629 User profile
What a mess – do you have any strategy to this cycle? We have no idea how long you have been running the base compounds, what your goals are, etc. Masteron/EQ and Deca are polar opposites – the first two designed to provide lean gains and a dry look, while deca will bloat and puffy you out.
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
I agree with the others here. The dosages are all wrong and the plan is complete chaos. I like to run EQ at 600mg/week for up to 20 weeks to see the full benefits; masteron at ~500mg/week. Props I pin every day to keep blood levels stable. Check out steroidcalc dot c o m to see a graph of blood levels rising and falling. If I were you I would immediately take out the tren and watch some greg doucette youtube videos on beginner cycles. Thanks for the question.
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traianos123 User profile
U have to figure out what kind of cycle u want to do and like that to decide what compounds u will use and stick to them, dont use so many different things in one cycle, i will say try Test and EQ with an oral, that will do, u can add the Deca if u want, u will need to take care of the estrogen level so take an AI like Anastrozole 0.5 mg EOD, if u decide to use deca or tren take care of your prolactin level with Cabaser, and when u finish your cycle do a proper PCT with Nolva or Clomid or both.
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omeed haji User profile
Run some test e or c with Deca and eq . That was my last cycle and I got good results I did for 12 week and I did take dbol for 12 week I did take for 2 week and than 2 week off and again back for 2 week and so
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Barry Gibson User profile
As a beginner or so stick only to testosterone and once you learn more about stacking you can slowly incorporate that into your regimin.
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Has anyone used low dosage deca, say 50mg/wk along with their TRT dosage?Also, is this compound relatively safe to take in in low cruise doses in conjunction with test?Thanks guys and gals!
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John Rambo User profile
I believe this is too weak to make a difference. You also left out goals so it`s difficult to advise you but If you`re on trt i would suggest a blast and cruise. When you blast you can increase your trt dose and throw in the deca at 250 or higher. I don`t think less is gonna give you decent results.
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JB205 User profile Expert
I`ve used Tbol alot while running trt. I know Tbol can be used as a bridge in between cycles and also provirin is also a good combo for me, helps keep gains from blast cycles and keeps sex drive through the roof. Deca for me personally has too many sides I dont want to deal with like deca dick.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
I have not known anyone to personally do it, but there was a study of Nandrolone that may kind of help inform you. Since I cannot put websites, the study is simply called Beyond testosterone cypionate: evidence behind the use of nandrolone in male health and wellness. May help inform you on your decision.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Rambo is probably right. Of course you could do this but to what end brother? I unerstand your hesitation but at some point fish or cut bait. TRT is amazing but for mostly the quality of life benefits (libido, energy, fat loss ect) but if you want to make substantial strength and size you really should do a proper cycle, you know what i mean. But to answer your question directly, other than what John Rambo already spoke about i`m sure you could do that but again to what end? I`m sure you`ll figure it out sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. And Susta and all the boys, thanks for the kind words. And skutchie, sorry brother i have never used that particular brand of growth but really kid i have done a fair amount of vetting and the grey tops are legit and full strength–you will find them(especially when combined with a test back bone -to be nothing short of amazing!!) just the cost. but really they are almost 5X cheaper then most of the name brands i`ve used
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Drew User profile
I would say that is a way to low of a dose to do anything for you. You would want to do at least 200mgs a week to have any effect.
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Abu tom User profile Expert
I take 100mg a week of deca for joints even during the cutting cycles. I notice the difference even at that low of a dose
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Am I supposed to get night sweats from deca? I thought that was just a tren side effect. Thoughts?
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Juice24roids User profile Expert
Here is one anecdotal experience: I am running 750mg of Test E and 600mg of deca and am 6 weeks in. About 10 days ago I stared getting HORRIBLE night sweats. Literally soaking my clothes where I wake up in a shivering cold sweat 3-5 times a night. Bedroom temp is controlled by AC (probably 60 degress or less) and ceiling fan on high. I sweat through my pillow, Sheets, Blanket and mattress cover. It as if I have a serious infection..but I dont. No fever and I dont sweat during the day…only at night. I am completely fine during the day. I have used Deca since 1999 with no issues. I dont even get deca dick when on. I do get night sweats on Tren…But not like I am currently experiencing.
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Norman User profile
That is odd. I`ve ne at gotten night sweats on Deca. Maybe you`re running too high a dose
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
Any and all gear causes night sweats.im sure or hope your running test with the deca and test may be high that will cause it..what all and at what dose are running?
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Anonymous56 User profile
I believe it is a rare case but it can cause night sweats. It is much more common with tren but Deca is not excluded. Just something we gotta deal with whole on gear. Good luck man
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Will User profile Expert
No, deca is not known for night sweats or increasing body temperature. Other things can cause thermogenesis in your body that can be supplement, diet, or temperature related. You`ll want to look at another contributing factor.
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N88 User profile
Yes you can get deca sweats at super high doses some have reported. I have never gotten sweats but do with tren often.
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Hey, I am planning a cycle of Deca at 300 mgs a week and test dust at 250 every 5 days. I am wondering if I should run the test dust at 500 every week instead in accordance with the Deca (5/3). I was wondering what AI is best to use during this cycle to keep away any unwanted sides. I have Nolva on hand.
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My name is Jeff User profile
If you want to stay a women I wouldn’t do deca. It’s not going to do anything that anavar or or primo can do without upping the dose enough to cause bad sides. Would also be helpful to know your goals, strength, curing, bulking, bikini ansso on.
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Drew User profile
Yes I would do you test at 500mgs a week to get the best bang for you buck. I personally like arimidex .5mgs eod when I cycle is mild and does it`s job well.
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K.D.T User profile
You could up the test to1 1/2 ml a week to bring it 375 so at least a little higher then the Deca so as not to get any Ed sides kinda sounds like your new to this so if th8s isn`t always your 3rd cycle just stick with test
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barclord User profile
I have never heard of test dust. Is that like fairy dust? If you have to ask then you should be on the low end. If you stick with 250mgs you probably won`t need an AI. Nandrolone`s side effects from progesterone/prolactin can be worse than estrogen though and are not affected by AI`s and SERMS so do your research and be prepared.
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N88 User profile
Sus should be pinned EOD because of the short esters. I think 500 mgs a week is good dose to mix with Deca.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Use Arimidex. By test dust you mean sust? It`s fine doing 500 with 300 deca. Make sure you have caber on hand as well besides the AI. Nolva is a must so I am not sure why you`d merely have it on hand since you will need it for your PCT.
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can anyone tell me when a person has crossed the line between a personal supply and gettind to distibute. ive put some big orders in before like $2000 what if that order got bagged by cbp???
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Will User profile Expert
Based on how much you spent, youd easily be tagged as supply with intent to distribute. Pretty sure it`s such a low amount that`s considered a personal stash. Like 1 vial of a compound is personal. It`s pretty ridiculous how low is considered supply with intent to distribute. Basically, don`t get caught.
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Unc33135 User profile
There is no set dollar amount its more of a case by case subjective thing. However, id say that def qualifies as more then just personal use. Say you were to get caught and they charged you with intent to distribute, that doesnt necessarily mean the charge would stick. You could make the case its for personal use. Most likely theyd drop the intent charge and just keep the possession charge.
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Dr Scott User profile
Well I did 6 years in prison for a small suitcase and i also assaulted a border guard (long story) so I know what I am talking about. The laws were different and prior to 2004 one unit consisted of a 10 ml vial or 50 pills. now it is .5cc or 1 pill. see 2004 anabolic dteroid act. Also, person use infers that you have an actual rx and no more then a 3 month supply per that rx. This is the reason no one crrently bothers with mail order. If you are pulled over with a single 10cc vial this is a felony and you very likely be charged, probably will not do time but it is a felony. personal use is a 3 month supply according to your rx, if you dont have an rx within 6months all this goes out the window
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skitt User profile
Honestly It would really depends on where you live… Laws are different from state to state as well as country to country.. For example say I have an oz of Marijuana… In most states if it`s in one baggy and on me then it`s personal BUT if I take half of it and have it in a couple other baggies with baggies lying around they can charge with intent to sell rather I was or wasn`t that`s just 1 example but I would look up your local laws as well as your R.C.W laws on said products and see what they consider compared to what you order and how you do it… that would help give you a better idea and maybe a few tricks to help you avoid anything just in case.. good luck
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Mr.smith User profile
I think they have to determine your intentions. For instance if you bought 2000$ of the same thing they would say that’s way more than a person can use in a whole year. But if it’s 2000$ and 5-10 things then it’s different. In court you would be able to prove your cycle and needs, only problem is you don’t want to get arrested at all and court means Amit’s already gone to far but if it ever did I think you would be proven innocent of intent to distribute.
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swol1 User profile
Skitt anabolic are a CIII in all 50 states and federally the penalties concerning anabolics are nearly the same in all 50 states look it up
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im no roockie but never cmbined eq and deca in the same cycle, is it advised. was thinking cyp 250mg twice a week eq 300 twice and deca 200 twice week. wanted to add in deca for joins is that enough? is thisok i mean eq and deca? thouhgts please
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BABA User profile
Choose test with either deca or eq. No need for both at the same time. EQ and deca both help with joints. EQ will give you more dry gains while deca will be wet.
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barclord User profile
BABA is right on. Test is a better option than both EQ and Deca. The Deca will be slightly better on the joints so if that is your concern, just forget the EQ. Plus the EQ ester is so long that you won`t even notice results for a month. HGH is even better for connective tissue regeneration.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Why would you? No need for both. And that EQ dose you mentioned would not be optimal (way to low). Pick one or the other. Less is always more. Good luck
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NPC LIFE User profile
No need for both. I am old school fan of deca while not in prep. EQ is a must in prep. If you want to add a third compound add some tren. I`m only saying this because you mentioned that you are no rookie. I would never recommend tren until you had at least 4-5 cycles under your belt. Good luck
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Gman User profile Expert
Ya no reason to run both. You have to run a test base with either or. You can go as low as 100mg a week of test or 250 or 500. If this is your first cycle I would say test only becuase you dont know how your body responds for side effects. If you run 3 compound and you start growing man boobs or break out every where in acne you wont be able to pin point what compound did it and at what dosage. Equipose can be ran at 400mg a week for a first timer very mild compound. Needs test with it. Deca is more watery you may get ba little bloated from it but decent gains probably better the equipoise each are good but run them at separate time just make 2 cycles out of it. 250deca to 400 be good for first time cycle. Dont forget testosteron good luck
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RJB16 User profile
No…. Eq and Deca don`t run them together. Like NPC I am a Deca fan feel amazing on it and so does all my joints. Eq will take a lot longer to see results. Depends on your goals….