Hey allI am about 2 weeks into taking this. I`ve been splitting one pill AM and PM. I have noticed an intense level of fatigue setting in about an hour after taking the pill. I need a nap in the morning! And I`ve ended up skipping some morning workouts – not ideal. I`ve seen some mentions of fatigue related to this product but for me it seems quite extreme. Wondering if anyone has any experience or insight with this?Thanks for any info!
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
This has happened to me with some of the more liver toxic orals like anadrol and usually some nausea involved. This indicates to me that my liver is inflamed and overworked (lab tests confirmed this). That being said anavar is one of the few AAS processed all most entirely by the kidneys. This combined with a high protein diet, intense cardio or general workouts, creatine and all the rest can put a tremendous strain on your kidneys. fatigue or lethargy is a common side of impaired kidney function as well as nausea, itching and back or flank pain. Of course it could have nothing to do with your gear all. You could get a CMP (comprehensive metabolic panel) which contains a BUN and eSR Cr-blood test for about 50 bucks. Or better yet just stop the Var and see how you feel. dropping the var will not have a huge impact on your cycle but dragging ass all day every day will. Hope this helps good luck
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Are you taking test. If not that`s your problem your suffering from low t . If you are taking test then it might be in your head. Taking anavar although mild will shut Down all natural testosterone. Its counter productive . Your doing more harm then good and at the end of the cycle you will have lost all gains and maybe more
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Either the anavar may be causing fatigue by straining your kidneys along with diet factors and training, or maybe you`re not using Testosterone as a base. Remember Testosterone is a base for a reason on all steroid cycles. Either way add testosterone or drop the anavar, but preferably get blood work done to see factually what`s going on as well. Good luck with it man!
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Spin User profile
I got labs done a month ago and everything was in range, including those you mentioned. I`ve only been on Anavar 2 weeks so I don`t think it`s causing liver or kidney strain. I am also on a a TRT dosage of testosterone.
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Dr. Scott User profile Expert
well you had labs a month ago and you have been taking the anavar 2 weeks so that really tells nothing other than you were fine BEFORE you started. 2 weeks is plenty of time, orals begin to be metabolized within hours-in about 10 hours after taking it half the dose of anavar is already metabolized. But you are right anavar is generally well tolerated and most people have no issues with it unless they are taking crazy doses. Generally speaking all AAS are CNS excitatory its what causes increased sweating, problems falling asleep, aggression and increased libido. it should never make you sleepy without something else going on. If its not your kidneys or low t probably nothing to do with the anavar or your gear.
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Swoll,onthe,low User profile
You should at least trt dose of test that will help with the fatigue. Continue with the dose that you are on
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
I take 60mg a day and split it 30mg morning and 30mg in the evening an hour before i workout. It gave me the craziest pump at the gym on top of EQ/test stack. If you are taking 50mg a day that`s the normal for guys so i don`t see any issue. Now are you taking test or anything else with var? if not that could be the culprit. 2 weeks into var you can definitely feel it! Fir me, i started to see a pronounce in my abs 2 weeks into on my second half of my cycke. Let us know what`s your cycle is now and we can help you find out about your fatigue issue. Good luck friend! And dont forget to vote.
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Guys I got lucky and had a doctor friend write me a prescription for oxandrin. It`s oxandrolone. How can I incorporate it into a cutting cycle and at what dosage as well as for how long?
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Lucky User profile
You`re lucky but it`s expensive!! And no insurance is going to cover the anabolic dose. With real bad 40-50mg for 6 weeks would show amazing results, most dr write for 1-2.
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ThePony User profile
I`m veryy curiosity what dose he wrote it for, and he`s reasons for it in your record. Also what the cost is out of pocket at a pharmacy. It is usually ran secondary to injectable a at about 50-100mg increasing the the high end closer to show date.
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Good dr User profile
That sounds like a good and close friend. I`d ask for a moderate anabolic dose and try to get more over time so it doesn`t reflect poorly on you or him. 60mg has been my sweet spot but run it through my whole cycles lean bull and cuts.
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Bobby User profile
You still need to take some Test as a base. You may get some results but without Testosterone, you`re pretty much wasting gear. It`s a big decision to go on so please keep researching and asking questions. The good thing is that you found 24roids. They are the best and have all quality companies on here.
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Lucky User profile Expert
Don`t get too excited. No reputable doc is going to give you a prescription for performance level that you would need
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More User profile
Take and start your cutting compounds; test/Trenast and add it in the last 5-6 weeks at a dose of 50-100 as suggested above. It`s a drug with little sides and could benefit greatly towards the higher end if able to afford it
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So I`m running a 16 week long ester cycle, 500 mg test E, 600 mg tren E, 400 mg mast E, HGH tappering up to 4 – 6 IU 1 year – 1 1/2 years, anavar tapering up to 75 mg last 8 weeks. HCG last 4 weeks 250 IU twice/week. PCT clomid/ nolva 4 weeks as recommended. How long would you recommend I stay off cycle and what would be a good recommended cycle to follow this one up with to build quality muscle and shred? I can handle same intensity cycle as I`m on week 7 with minimal sides and am getting great results. Side question, can you tell the difference between gyno from test and gyno from prolactin issues? I have caber on hand incase I need it. Preciate yall in advance guys/girls.
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Swoleville User profile
Sounds solid
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More gear User profile
Thats a very potent cycle. The only way you can go higher is increase the dose BUT i wouldn`t recommend it. Give yourself some time off between the cycle to get your receptors sensitivity back. Run hcg while on cycle and prevent your testicle from shrinking in the first place. When your balls are sleep its going to take mega doses something like 2000iu a week for 3-4 weeks to fully wake them up in that short period of time. The difference between gynos on test vs tren/deca is on estrogen gyno you develop a lump that is painful to touch but gyno on prolactin actually lactates. If its not taken care of immediately and the breast tissue develops milk might come out of the nipples.
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Massgains User profile
Your Going to have to play with it up your doses lower doses of caber and arimidex untill you figure out what it is I would pick up so letro if it’s estrogen letro will take care if it right away.
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ROBERT BERG User profile
You`re putting a lot into your body. You can always start off low and creep up higher. If you start seeing side effects then you know to slow it down. You can take the HCG as a cycle support to help your nuts from shrinking. Just take it easy, get bloodwork taken and follow a cycle support. You`re not going to take any PCT while you`re taking your HGH. Cabergoline, Aromasin and Letro are all things I would check out. It doesnt hurt to have them on hand for the future if needed.
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Dan J User profile
Standard safe procedure is to wait at least 3 months between the end of PCT and the start of the new cycle.For next cycle, you can always repeat the cycle from before, there is no need to “up the ante” if you are getting the results. It always stacks up as long as you are on proper training and diet regimen between the cycles. I`d say the difference between estrogen gyno and prolactin gyno would be lactation, squeeze your nipples hard and see if anything liquid comes out.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Only thing I will say is to run the HCG longer during your cycle. It will cut down on the time it takes for the boys to bounce back in my experience. I would begin about two weeks to three weeks into your cycle and stop with the final injection before you begin PCT. I would PCT for 3-4 months after this cycle which sucks but that’s what is recommended. I hear great things for shredding by taking winstrol (stanozolol) whether injected or oral. I have always had good results getting lean by taking testosterone Propionate with Trenbolone Acetate eod. Don’t forget to add aromasin when it’s time and the caber should be used sparingly and at minimum effective doses as the sides from too much caber can be pretty uncomfortable.
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General question. Why is para pharma oxandrolone 50mg for 100 tabs not showing any lab results? Besides can`t any company send a well dosed item for lab analysis and after getting a good test result can`t they just underdose their items but still use the original lab test certification??
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GainsVille_85 User profile
I don’t think it works that way. I believe 24roids pulls a sample and sends it off for a third party lab to analyze. This way the supplier has no control over which batch gets tested. If it comes back bunk or severely under dosed 24roids can scrap everything with that batch number. This is not in the best interest for the supplier.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
You can check out anaboliclab. com for independent, blind, 3rd party lab testings – para pharma gets really good results, typically slightly overdosed. Respectfully, I think you have it backwards. .. labs make TONS of money by selling legit gear to bros, so they come back over and over and are loyal to the brand. If a lab were to underdose a product and were caught (Shree Venkatesh about 5 years ago is the only example I can think of), they would be essentially put out of business, as word travels fast in the underground. Again, Para Pharma has been around for a couple of years now, and I have NEVER heard of any issued with potency for this lab.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Most tests are from consumers sending the products in. Not all labs are going to have them and it is not something to worry about. If a supplier wasn`t legit it wouldn`t be on 24roids.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Only new and shady ass random pharmacies dilute their stuff. The legit ones that have been around for a while and are sold on this site are generally g2g.
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Massgains User profile
I personally can say para pharma’s anadol are really really Potent. But for the lab test the bottles and pills are bought and then sent to a lab by someone that is not Affiliated this the labs that are being tested so it’s just like me or you testing a bottle and sending in the results. And for the reasonings for it not being tested I guess it just hasn’t been picked yet to be tested but I will say over the year 24roids has added some many testes good and bad on there site.
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N88 User profile
Most labs wont do that on their own. if that were the case they would send in the good stuff and sell the diluted stuff. All the lab tests on 24roids is done by a second party and not by the respective lab. Adrol is hardly faked and if it`s on the site it`s gtg
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Has any one used this anavar 50 by para pharma? Is it as potent as GP or SIS labs? It`s a good deal if it is.
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Anonymous User profile
Para pharma has a pretty good reputation. All the lab tests I have seen on their steroids around the web, show they are dosed accurately
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Beard User profile
I use a lot of para pharma products and all are legit. Plus they have lab tests all over to prove such
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Even if it`s not as potent, you can always cut a pill and slightly add to it, to perhaps match the dosages of other brands. Although I am doubtful any of them are underdosed at all – usually they are slightly overdosed. At the end, anavar is anavar regardless of brand.
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ROBERT User profile
I doubt that 24roids sells products that are under dosed or not up to par with the standards they gave set. I think it should be just fine
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Massgains User profile
I can honestly sit here and say I’ve used all three products and all three are good to go. As for para pharma they are one of my favorites there packaging it’s the greatest they come bottle only no box. Basic lable but there products are fire. If I use the lab to buy primo than there legit and I love paras primo. I ran para anavar 50 with there susta 350 and tren a I got the best lean results I have ever got.
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LegacyLifter User profile
Parapharma has been around here for a while. Usually 24roids does not associate themselves with shitty brand or knock offs so you should be good to go. Get it and review it for us as I`ve never tried their brand of anavar.