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What`s up fellas, just have a quick question if I run HCG for my entire cycle will I still need to run a pct like clomid? Thanks in advance.
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BillySantos User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
Yup, you`ll still need to run a PCT just to be safe if you want the best chance of your hormones recovering
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
Absolutely you need clomid friend! Hcg mimick LH that is release from your anterior pituitary gland. LH is then bind to LH receptors in the testes to make testosterone. However hcg molecular shape almost like LH and share very very similar amino sequence so it has the ability to bind to the LH receptors to trick your testes to make testosterone but it is not natural since it is (hcg) is introduce exogenously. Therefore you still need clomid to initiate at origin of the hpta loop at the hypothalamus. hope that helps!
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
Yes you would still need clomid or continue hcg until your hormones normalize. After you stop your cycle your internal testosterone production takes time to catch up so people speed it up by doing a pct. Or to keep much better gains look into blasting and cruising. I blast and cruise, to me it makes more sense. To you it might or might not depending on your situation. I hope the info helped!
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A19 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
No you don`t. You can run HCG straight through your PCT. HCG and Clomids do the same exact thing through slightly different mechanisms. No need to run both. If you`re worried about an estrogen rebound, you`ll want to incorporate Nolvadex. Hope that helps. Don`t forget to vote. Thanks for the question.
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RyanVogel User profile
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
You run it with your pct only. Do 500 iu 3x week
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 25, 2020
Yes that would be for the best. Anything else feel free to ask.
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Hello, I have been using test cyp at 200 mg a week for the past 20 weeks and want to transition onto clomid until my next order arrives. Does anyone have any advice on how much I should take per day in order to maintain my testosterone levels as best as possible?Thank you!
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 19, 2020
Two weeks AFTER your last pin if cyp, run Clomid at 100mg a day (2pills) for 2 weeks. Then drop to 50mg a day (1 pill) for the next two weeks. Would be better if you threw in HcG and Nolva too though.
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A19 User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 19, 2020
JD Cycle hit the nail on the head. Start two weeks after your last injection. 4 week PCT. 100mg/day for 2 weeks, then 50mg/day for another 2 weeks. 100/100/50/50. And I`ll add this. Stay focused. Stay motivated. Coming off cycle can be a total mind fuck. Good luck brother. Don`t forget to vote. Thanks for the question.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 19, 2020
20 weeks cycle is a long ass cycle! So the longer you are suppressed the harder you get your natty back. I would incorporate hcg 2 to 3 weeks before i start my pct but not with my pct. Hcg protocol of 1,000iu eod for 3 weeks leading to pct. Hcg mimick LH to get your boys going. Once they are full then clomid will stimulate LH and FSH to get your natty back. Clomid standard protocol is 100/100/50/50 for 4 weeks. This way it`s a smooth transition from suppressed testes to testes being trucked to testes back in action! At the end of the game it is all about getting your natural testosterone back as soon as possible to keep your gain and your mind sane! Good luck buddy! Dont forget to vote.
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JamesEarl User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 19, 2020
You might opt running hcg with clomid or hcg alone to ensure you get on track hormonally. Good luck!
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Onyx User profile Expert
Answered: Jul 20, 2020
Two weeks AFTER your last pin, run Clomid at 100mg a day (2pills) for 2 weeks. Then 50mg a day (1 pill) for the next two weeks. Good luck!
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Okay so had some crystallization and my tests cypEnded up putting them in warm water but they fell over one of them had a cap on it and the other one did not am I screwed should I get new vials or am I okay?
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Mr and Mrs J User profile
Answered: Jun 28, 2020
Never had this happen to me but if it did. I`d be confident that no water got it in. That plastic cap isn`t stopping water anyways. Even with syringe punctures in the stopper not likely water got in. Maybe if it was boiling and it was u der water for a while. The other thing is oil and water can`t mix. If it got in the vile it would either float on top or sink to the bottom (not sure not a chemist. I think oil floats) just draw from the oil.
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crazy Dan User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 28, 2020
You are still good friend! You should not submerge below any part of the rubber stopper nor the metal crimp area to prevent any water to migrate into the inside. But good thing it`s on pretty damn tight. Just don`t keep sunken vial below the water line! 🙂 . Now wipe the entire metal and neck area with alcohol and then everytine you draw. Having a cap still on or not it`s irrelevant because water goes below the cap. No worries. that`s what the stopper is there for, to seal the inside from the outside. The cap is not tempering purposes. In short, wipe the cap and metal crimp area really good with alcohol and you are gtg!! Good luck buddy! Don`t forget to vote.
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JohnSmith User profile
Answered: Jun 28, 2020
I know this can be a scary thing, fearing your vials are contaminated but they are good to go. That rubber stopped on top of your vial keeps it sealed and prevents air, water and bacteria from entering. Simply clean it with alcohol and you`re Gtg.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 28, 2020
I`ve had this happen. Sterlize the exterior tmwith alcohol. Most gear is brewed with benzyl alcohol to help keep the gear sterile as well. If you research online, you can find common recipes for each chemical. You won`t find exact as the UGLs won`t disclose, but the homebrew recipes give you a good idea of content.
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MattBeard User profile
Answered: Jun 28, 2020
I work in a lab and we do the stopper test and even after multiple injections and submerged for 48hrs in water they are airtight so feel confident you are fine.
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nickname_311 User profile Expert
Answered: Jun 29, 2020
I would clean everything off of alcohol with every single pin that you do. You are fine if it has gone to the rubber stopper water gets to it as no big deal just make sure everything is sterilized well before using anything. Every single time I pin I take the alcohol wipe a single light for it and I wipe it across the rubber stopper to get any bacteria that may be on it off. This is one thing that people do not do that is a mistake they need to do it more often so they do not have irritation to the jection site
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I`m just wondering if anyone has been ordering anything since march or april to the east coast of the us and has actually got it yet. I got all the gear I need but I`ve been wait 3 months on my PCT and it is just stuck at isc ney York. I`m not looking for advice about submitting a ticket just want to know what labs are actually able to get goods to the U S so I can try to get my PCT and start my cycle. So far I have 2 different orders with 2 labs in 2 different countries and neither one is close. Thanks for any help
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steveo3194 User profile
Answered: May 12, 2020
I myself had placed an order back in March and I did receive it as usual and normal. I had just placed a domestic order and received it in under a week. I know a lot of people are reporting that the shipping times are sometimes twice as long with what`s going on. If your package really is sitting in customs for a long time perhaps there might be an issue hopefully not but after some time let naps know. One-time years ago I place an order for some test vials and it never showed up and then three four months later it came out of nowhere. My overall advice is to wait a couple more weeks and if you don`t see any movement or get a customs notification contact naps support.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: May 12, 2020
Hey by429, I just experienced a very similar situation. One package i ordered on March 17th (coming from Malaysia going to US east coast) just arrived last week. The other package I ordered at the very end of march will be arriving tomorrow. All of my orders were geneza and dragon. I was told by Naps it may take until mid-june before things arrive. For all of my future orders, I`m expecting everything to take no less than 8 weeks to arrive…it sucks, but there are new USPS regulations will cause more delays. There is an article on USPS site going into a bit more details about international packages arriving to US and the new procedures that they will be taking. I hope this helps. Good luck
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I`ve felt like shit for the last 5 years since my last cycle of test e/eq. My symptoms are low libido/ED, loss of muscle hardness, no vascularity, and low energy. All natural right now and 36 years old, my labs show test at 888, estradiol at 34, FSH at 1.9, and prolactin at 10.4…..Should I run a full PCT again or maybe do arimidex/aromasin to bring estradiol down?
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Siva User profile
Answered: Apr 18, 2020
how are your prolactin levels?….If low try Cabergoline.. I love it keeps my boys full and ready to go. It was probably the EQ….Maybe go on TRT. We all have to crossover to the dark side at some point, that is if you want to remain vital.
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FatDadstack User profile
Answered: Apr 18, 2020
sounds like low test bud. For me I have to run 400ml wk test prop to feel normal after gear use. I`m 35 5`10 210lb and feel great.
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Big Jake User profile
Answered: Apr 18, 2020
Your blood levels seem pretty kosher. I`d avoid taking an AI or caber unless your estrogen or prolactin levels were high and they`re probably not. You could see an endocrinologist for a better diagnosis, see more of the full picture but your problem might not even be hormonal. If you wanted to take any gear at all just to get right, outside of wanting to run a cycle, I`d say try some HCG. Get like 2500 or 5000 iu`s and run 500iu twice a week for 4 weeks then 250iu twice a week for the remainder of the bottle. I don`t think it would cause any real harm in your circumstances but it COULD help. Best wishes bro!
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 18, 2020
So you`ve had lab work done. This would be the time to consult your doctor on options to treat those symptoms. I wouldn`t recommend running a PCT for the hell of it. You`ve had your lab work done, so it`s the perfect time to have your doctor look over the labs and work with them on the possible cause. It doesn`t sound like low test from the results you posted.
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Michael User profile
Answered: Apr 18, 2020
your test levels are normal although I`m pretty sure they are measured on a different scale in certain countries but for USA they are high. Don`t run another pct, start a cycle or start trt. You can do your own trt and just do 200 test a week plus or minus 50 and get regular blood work or go to a dr. I would personally do a cycle and maybe cruise on 100ish till your next cycle though since you are about the same age as me and that`s what I like to do.
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hello. i have been on quite a lengthy cycle of mainly test about 500 to 750 mgs a week and some deca and eq at times. as this is a good time to take a break, what should i take for my pct and how many mgs to help bring test back to normal and keep gains, also how long before last i jection should i wait?
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Big Jake User profile
Answered: Apr 04, 2020
I`d say pin hcg 500iu twice weekly for 4 weeks then 250iu until you`re done with the bottle – do like 5000iu total. If you want to do clomid as well or instead, wait 10-14 days from the last pin to start taking it. usually 2 tabs a day for 2 weeks then one tab a day for 2 more weeks.
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traianos123 User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 04, 2020
I am surprized to see that u was on a long cycle and u dont have your PCT ready, why?? anyway, u can take Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 or Clomid 100/100/50/50, also in the last weeks of your cycle u can pin HCG so the PCT will be more efficient.
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Htown User profile
Answered: Apr 04, 2020
250 iu for 6 weeks. Start 2 weeks before you plan on stopping and continue for 4 more weeks after cycle. Clomid for 4 weeks. Start 2 weeks after your last pin. 2 tabs a day for 2 weeks and 1 tab a day for 2 weeks.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 04, 2020
I tend to agree with htown and Jake either or. Over the years i have found that all i need is HCG at doses jake spoke about i can even get away with 2000iu but 5000iu (total) prob better to be safe. The only way to know for sure is to test your fsh,Lh and tot, testosterone and see where you are at at the end of your PCT. Or if at the end you still experience symptoms of low T run longer, higher or add some clomid . I do not believe in nolva for PCT unless you have probs with gyno and rebound which is entirely possible. its very individual lots of people suggest all 3 and thats fine to be safe but remember everything has sides and everything costs money. i have found over the years i dont need all that but that is me, maybe not for you who knows. best of luck
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Branko User profile
Answered: Apr 04, 2020
Wait two weeks from last pin then start HCG. 4 pins 500iu eod for four pins, then 250iu eod for four pins. During that second week start nolva 40/40/20/20 ed. If you choose clomid also it`s 100/100/50/50. To keep as much gains as possible continue to work out and eat right.
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Taylor User profile
Answered: Apr 04, 2020
I would start with 3 injections per week of 250iu per injection. I would start that immediately not waiting but only do so if your almost finished with your cycle. I would run this for 4 weeks or a total of 5000ius.
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What`s up Naps brothers, long question. I just got my blood work in and have question and need help understanding it. So I got blood work done 2 days after my 4 week post cycle of clomid and nolvadex. I ran a 16 week cycle of test cyp 400mg a week and EQ at 400mg a week. I front loaded the first 4 weeks with dbol 30mg a day and I ran proviron almost the entire time 50 mg a day then I finished my last 6 weeks with var at 50 mg a week. My post cycle was clomid at 100mg a day for first 2 weeks and nolvadex at 40mg a day first 2 weeks. Last 2 weeks was 50mg clomid 20mg nolvadex. So these are my results my AST 66.0 which is high, my ALT 59.0 which is also high. Testosterone 525 which is ok I guess kinda low and not to my expectations. Free testosterone 80.6 and my Estradiol is 18.7, my Luteinizing Hornone 10.5 which is kinda high and gots me wondering and worried my nuts are not going back to normal, did I damage my myself from going back to normal? Any help would be so greatly appreciate. Thank you
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Feb 26, 2020
Hey Zales, NO, you did not damage yourself from going back to normal. Not sure what your baseline levels were before the cycle but that would be good for you to compare if you have it. If you continue to take time off gear you will for sure return to baseline — some people take longer than others. Not to worry. If you want your balls back faster consider HCG. Works great. Thanks for the question
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Winning13 User profile
Answered: Feb 26, 2020
I did not believe that you damaged your nuts. LOL. You might want to go back and get blood work done 5 to 10 days when all your levels kind of settle when you give your body enough time to recoup after running your PCT. I believe you just ran your blood work too early in my opinion. Good luck!
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Barry Gibson User profile
Answered: Feb 26, 2020
No you cannot damage yourself man. Once exogenous testosterone is cut off endogenous testosterone resumes. Endogenous means from inside. Some it takes longer for some it`s faster. No big deal.
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Pookie User profile
Answered: Feb 26, 2020
Give it time. Still trace amounts of gear in your system and they will drop over the next few months. Your test numbers are good for just coming off cycle. If u wanna get a quicker nut drop take HCG
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Mike User profile
Answered: Feb 26, 2020
Not sure if your age but I would be very happy with test levels of 500 post PCT therapy. Also how long has it been? 2 weeks, 8 weeks, a year since you finished? I would assume not too long ago due to you AST/ALT levels. These will be high for a bit. Make sure you were taking a liver protectant, preferably on cycle too, and drink lots of water. You may need to just give your body some more time to recover. It may be just too early since you finished and your body is still recovering. If you can get your hands on some HCG you could take that to boost your LH/leidig cells.
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John User profile
Answered: Feb 26, 2020
I don`t believe you damaged yourself. It takes tons to hand all your numbers go back to normal. Time on equaled to time off is a good rule of thumb. It`s tough but you have to ruff it out when you come off
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What`s the typical expiration date on these? Thinking of stocking up.
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Johnny Longsockz User profile
Answered: Jan 23, 2020
Mine was a little under 2 years last order
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novadesert007 User profile
Answered: Jan 23, 2020
Most of the time it will be expire in 2-4 years. From what i`ve seen mine
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Expiration User profile
Answered: Jan 23, 2020
You`re good for a few years.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Jan 23, 2020
They normally last anywhere from a year two three years.
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 23, 2020
As long as they arnt open and stored in a dry cool place you can use them after a couple years no problem
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Cameron Lujan User profile
Answered: Jan 23, 2020
I`d say 2-3 years as the others!
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Is it ok to take clomid during cycle to avoid gyno? I am running low on aromasin and am to far along in my cycle to order more now and have ot get here on time.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 22, 2020
Hey Lopez, NO, clomid does not make you avoid gyno. NOLVADEX will do this as well as an aromatase inhibitor. I like to take nolva before an ai because I`m not against having elevated estrogen and believe it to be beneficial for muscle gain as long as it`s not way out of range and causing side effects and mood swings. Thanks for the question
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: Jan 22, 2020
Clomid won’t help you. Nolvadex will block the receptor but not eliminate the estrogen. Ration the remaining AI that you have and try to get more here, or stop your cycle early.
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Papi1266 User profile
Answered: Jan 22, 2020
I use clomid after for a pct, it`s not really to use during your cycle it wont really do anything
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nickname_464 User profile
Answered: Jan 22, 2020
Unfortunately no clomid won`t help with gyno. Try and just keep an eye on your symptoms and maybe split your ai pills into quarters and go from there. Best of luck mate.
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 22, 2020
Nope! Nolva can be taken to halt the progression of gyno, but you need ai on cycle to prevent it. Then take both Nolva and Clomid during pct.
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Cyclone User profile Expert
Answered: Jan 22, 2020
Clomid will not prevent this, you must use nolvadex
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How long does it take for clomid to start working ?
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N88 User profile
Answered: Dec 28, 2019
Starts immediately…no delay at all. Most orals start immediately
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novadesert007 User profile
Answered: Dec 28, 2019
it works right away cause its oral. Now if you dont feel like its working because your test is low and your body trying to bounce back. it is normal. This time it is the mental game you need to up it and overcome it. PCT sucks but it is what it is.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Dec 28, 2019
I’m on pct Clomid and nolva. It works immediately but cos test is low we feel like crap for a while
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nickname_21 User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 28, 2019
Starts working right away but it`s hard to tell becuase your body is trying to bounce back
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Dec 28, 2019
It`s an oral pill. They get broken down and start effecting your body right away.
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voodoo User profile
Answered: Dec 28, 2019
Natural test recovered in a couple weeks. But differ with everyone. That`s why the pct is a month long. Better safe than sorry.
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Hey gang. I pinned my last Test C about 9 days ago, when should I start my Clomid and Nolva? 10 days, or 2 weeks, and what is wrong with starting it earlier? Thanks in advance!
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Hitler User profile
Answered: Nov 17, 2019
Its not a big difference between 10-14 days but no earlier than that. You don`t start pct right away after long esters. It hasn`t had time to start to clear out of your system
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 17, 2019
I would wait the full two weeks. The problem with starting early is you still have exogenous test working in your system and thus your natural levels will not start producing again. I`ve waited even 3 weeks before on test E and got blood work and my test levels were still highly elevated so I guess the only way to really know is to get blood work. Good question and thanks for it.
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 17, 2019
These are just guidelines that have been shown to work with most people, prob nothing wrong with starting early IMO. Although it makes sense to wait until the test you have exogenously administered to clear out. But of course this is just an estimate anyhow. So to answer your question sure 7-14 post is fine. I`ve done it many different ways with no discerable difference. good luck
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YD1 User profile
Answered: Nov 17, 2019
Hey, 14 days is fine to start tour PCT. Make sure you stick with your dose and schedule so you can get the most out of it. In addition, dont forget to keep at it with your current diet and workout plan. Sometimes its hard but just try to push yourself. Im saying this so that you can keep most of your gains. Good luck.
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Matthew User profile
Answered: Nov 17, 2019
TestE and testCyp are very similar in length of ester. So start your pct cycle 2 weeks after your last pin of testE or testC. Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. That`s what I do for pct. other might do Nolva or Clomid.
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patsalos mixalis User profile
Answered: Nov 17, 2019
About 15 days gives time for test to clear before u start pct, good luck bro
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Once again I will post the factual data. ” Clomid works by blocking estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus, then the hypothalamus is stimulated to release follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), and luteinizing hormone (LH). So by reducing estrogen this in turn can assist in reducing the prevalence of gyno. But there are better things such as letrozole you can use on cycle I agree. ” Not sure if any of this is wrong but don`t listen to T Rex. He is on this forum to flame people who are more knowledgeable than him. I`m not going to get in a pissing match with this infantile uneducated moron but do your own research before listening to people like him who take things out of context and have no clue about the science and biochemistry of these medications.
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Don O User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 12, 2019
Pissing match over. Take the conversation to the forum.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 12, 2019
Guys, I hope this is the end of this little squabble. There is a stereotype about people that use steroids being aggressive and having a short temper. Let`s not play into that stereotype. It`s much more attractive to keep your cool. Whenever I`m getting impatient and pissed off I remember how Don Draper keeps his cool and never lets people get him aggravated. I hope this technique helps someone in the future. No one likes it when people lose their cool. I`m not saying that`s happening here and I`m not taking any sides. I respect both parties in this argument and you both have valid points. Let`s leave it at that.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Nov 12, 2019
You would want to use clomid and an estrogen blocker for you pct nolvadex is none to be one of the most productive stacked with clomid for pct.
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Growbygrow User profile
Answered: Nov 12, 2019
Ok if you want to use clomid as your base on cycle then cool.do as you do buddy and get huge
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Dr Scott User profile Expert
Answered: Nov 12, 2019
Clomid makes your body “think “it has lower estrogen, it does nothing to actually lower by blocking to a very small degree at the hypothalamus (in the brain). It also, does nothing at the nipple as is the case with nolva. I certainly would not call you an idiot and dont think that is productive. I understand what you read on wiki andit certainly is a serm but it does absolutely nothing to protect you from gyno, nothing. It actually increases your fsh and LH. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but I have been in the game for a very long time and nevr known anybody to use clomid for gyno, not ever, not one person. but by all means if you want to use it for this purpose you are entitled to. I feel like you are just trying to pose an alternative, actually Im not sure even what your point is. We can just agree to disagree and thats fine. best of luck brother
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RJB16 User profile
Answered: Nov 12, 2019
Agreed, clomid for gyno….. Think not. Just stick to the facts and what you actually know. If you are having Gyno issues get some Nolva…..
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Can Clomid be used similarly to HCG to keep testicular function going during a cycle? (Rather than after) Or even for a TRT scenario where its a cruise dose?
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 26, 2019
Clomid is only useful during a PCT in restoring your levels. Besides, with the emotional sides you experience with clomid, youd never want to take it other than when you must. HCG for libido during cycle or experience with your test dosage.
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nickname_481 User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 26, 2019
They have different functions. HCG mimics LH, the hormone that signals the testicles to produce test while Clomid binds to estrogen receptors in the brain starving them of estrogen. That tricks the body into thinking there is no estrogen therefore stimulates LH production that make the testicles produce test so body can convert it to estorgen. I don`t think Clomid during cycle works but you can give it try
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 26, 2019
They are separate in function and the purpose of clomid is to regain your natural levels once you come off cycle.
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Drew User profile
Answered: Oct 26, 2019
No sir only hcg came mimic the receptors in your balls to keep them functioning. Clomid is only used during pct.
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Mr.smith User profile
Answered: Oct 26, 2019
Nope. Hcg can’t even do it. It will help keep your balls the right size that’s about it. Your body still isn’t gonna want to make any test wilhilenyoyvare injecting test. It’s a waste of money, who cares about having giant balls. No ones gonna be looking at your balls, being all like, man, this guys got nice balls. Don’t worry about it. Just add it in your pct and everything goes back to normal.
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LongIslandBEAST User profile
Answered: Oct 26, 2019
I’m theory yes but I’m practice no. Clomid can work during PCT to keep test going but on cycle you won’t be able to stimulate production unless you take HCG or HMG
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I have some left over Clomid from a previous pct. I feel like this could potentially be a dumb question but I`m going to ask any way. I`m currently running tren A and test prop eod, if I were to introduce a low dose of clomid into my cycle would it combat potential sides or create problems. I have no side what so ever at the moment and I have proviron and that`s what I plan to add in the near future. Just seeking out opinions on the clomid topic.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Never use any drug unless needed, not just clomid but ai`s too. If you have no side effects then let it go (not everyone gets side effects). Besides clomid helps raise test after cycle, it`s best used post cycle.
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RNPCLIFE User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
To much clomid can become your enemy. Don’t take it unless you have side. Depending on your dose and how long your cycle is will depend on weather you need it during your cycle. Tren actually helps with estrogen sides. Good luck and be safe
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EDubz User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
I would save it for your next PCT if your having estrogen sides, I would use ai, aadex etc. You might need caber when using tren. As well good luck
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Jasonz User profile
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Never actually heard of introducing clomid during cycle only pct. Like the others have said dont take it if it`s not necessary. You will need it however with the cycle you are on when doing your pct. Good luck.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Clomid is pointless to run on cycle when you`re running any other compound. Especially one like Clomid which has not very ideal sides and emotional imbalance sides. Stick with an AI if you`re worried about estrogenic sides.
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JuiceNaps User profile Expert
Answered: Oct 22, 2019
Contrary to what the others have said I`ve had good results using low-dose clomid as needed on cycle. It works way better for me than a-dex and I don`t feel any noticeable sides. Just my nipps feel way better and less puffy. Good question
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So I had a PCT set up of clomid 100/100/50/50 along with nolva 40/40/20/20 but my nolva seems to have gone missing. My question is could I use aromasin instead of nolva? I have plenty left from my cycle. It`s what I was using to control gyno while on cycle.
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Old school User profile
Answered: Sep 08, 2019
You should be fine running Clomid alone. Back in the day that was pretty much all that everyone ran as there pct with no issues. Give it a whirl. You may find that it is just as effective and easier on the wallet.
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Zach Linder User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 08, 2019
Clomid only man. Nolva is great in some situations, but I wouldn`t worry about it…and we also are not sure what your cycle details are. Good Luck
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JD Cycle User profile Expert
Answered: Sep 08, 2019
My decision on Nolva would be based on the length and type of cycle personally. If it`s a harsh cycle, would try to acquire Nolva. Test only and relatively short, clomid only.
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nickname_537 User profile
Answered: Sep 08, 2019
You probably can. But use these items only if needed. As per me I`ve not ever used an ai nor caber even on 1,500mg test weekly and 1,000 tren ace weekly. Still no prolactin or estrogen related gyno…everybody is different.
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James dunleavy User profile
Answered: Sep 08, 2019
Youll be ok just using clomid. I would tryn get some nolva just in case tho. You never know, everyone reacts differently what works for one might not work for another
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anonymous255 User profile
Answered: Sep 08, 2019
No. You need tamoxifen. It is very easy and cheap to get.
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Need advice. Not sure where to post this question so I thought here. Has anyone heard of N2Guard? Well it’s basically a cycle support on and off cycle. I just wanted feedback if anyone else uses this and there opinion about it. I know it has milk thistle and tudca on top of 40 other vitamins and herbs, but is this support good enough for on cycle to support liver my main concern when stacking orals with injectables? The serving dose is 7 pills a day when on cycle. Does anyone know how many pills to take during pct or off cycle and off pct? I just want to make sure this product is protecting me at all angles and I’m not missing something that is better and more effective. Thanks for all comments and advice. Also any advice on my dosing for pct would be great, I’ve been told 100 different things as far as dosing and length of time. I plan on running clomid and nolvadex. This is my last week of a 12 week Test Cyp
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: May 08, 2019
As far as over-the-counter products go n2guard is solid. I would just dose as laid out on the label along with the touch of milk thistle for the liver. The liver is the most regenerative organ, and even without supplements recovers fairly well. I would get bloods near the end of my cycle, and again after post cycle using these compounds and see if the liver is back where it needs to be. As far as other off-the-shelf compounds daa is wonderful. I use it after serms well I`m off cycle. Just be sure to use it 2 days on 1 day off, or two weeks on 2 weeks off. There are many places online to lay out protocols.
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smalldres User profile
Answered: May 08, 2019
N2guard is a good cycle support product. If it’s just live support that you’re worried about then supplementing with milk thistle during your oral cycle is fine. Use Tudca for about a month after you’ve ceased the oral cycle.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2019
N2Guards is a good product, but from what I have heard is COMPLETELY overpriced for what you are getting. Essentially it is Milk Thistle, TUDCA, and a multivitamin, all of which can be purchased separately for 1/5th of the price, perhaps cheaper in bulk. From what I understand, the strain on the liver is pretty manageable if you don`t drink or take lots of OTC medication. Just limit your oral runs to 4 weeks (up to 8 for anavar), and take an equal time “off” to allow your liver to recover. I`ve personally never used liver support.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: May 09, 2019
The only thing you might add is Choline and Inositol. It will literally reverse fatty liver disease and have your organ in tip top shape. Old school guys used it religiously.
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anon5_uk User profile Expert
Answered: May 09, 2019
I Googled the product and had a look at the ingredients list. Seems like multivitamin that has the addition of TUDCA and some other herbs. However, this other herbs may be in negligible quantities, since you can`t cram the effects of all of these herbs into one pill/capsule. That`s the problem of all-in-one supplements. There is a reason why the Rock takes a handful of capsules every day – it`s because you need the quantity of these herbs for it to work the benefits for you. But since TUDCA is first on the ingredients list, this product may help you with liver health, since TUDCA may be in good-enough of a quantity. But I would go to Examine. com and see liver support supplements and buy them individually at quantities that actuall make them work.
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mchilds User profile
Answered: May 09, 2019
I have used it but realistically wouldn’t use it again unless I was taking a heavy oral cycle. Which I would never do anyways. It’s kind of snake oil like other supplements. You would be better off finding individual main ingredients online at cost and taking them individually. Personally your liver would be fine with just 12 weeks of test cyp. I would drink a lot of water. That is the essential thing needed to flush your organs out during a cycle and do not drink alcohol ever on cycle. (Or ever at all)
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Hope this isn`t a stupid question, but is this best taken with or without food, or it does it matter ?
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smithpress User profile
Answered: Apr 30, 2019
Take with your first meal of the day and be careful with women, this is a fertility drug and makes you way more likely to impregnate a woman because your sperm live longer and travel farther.
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GainsVille_85 User profile
Answered: Apr 30, 2019
Usually with food but I’ve taken it without and didn’t have any problems. I’d say it’s more important to take your dose as scheduled.
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TKel9 User profile
Answered: Apr 30, 2019
I dont think it really matters but id take it with food just in case anytime you take pills on an empty stomach you run the risk of becoming nauseous.
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Will User profile Expert
Answered: Apr 30, 2019
It really doesn`t matter if you take with or without food. My first couple PCT`s I took everything first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. More recent PCT`s I`ve taken with breakfast. Your body will absorb it either way, so I wouldn`t worry about it.
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SocalJuicer User profile Expert
Answered: May 01, 2019
This is a drug used to treat infertility in FEMALES, not males, and will not make your more likely to impregnate a woman. LOL. It`s really your choice, but some people will notice minor indigestion if taken on an empty stomach. Some suggest taking it at night, so that the side effects are less noticeable, but it`s up to you. Have you considered Nolva? It accomplishes the same goal, but does NOT have the unpleasant side effects of clomid. Just a suggestion!
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Big E User profile
Answered: May 01, 2019
To my knowledge it doesn`t really matter if you take it with or without food.
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Hello naps fam!I need some advice on a proper pct. I ran 10 week cycle tren A and sust250 for the 4 weeks and tren A and test E and did the 21 day of clomid and nolvadexI`m thinking of running the cycle again not sure if I did a proper pct. Not sure that is the proper pct. Thanks in advance.
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big baby bear User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 02, 2019
PCT`s can vary according to a persons age and the length/”strength” of the cycle. Many men do fine with an oral only PCT and if youre planning to jump back onto another cycle soon then dont worry about full recovery because youre going to be shut down again anyway and having slightly lower testosterone levels for a short period may actually help resensitize your androgen receptors. The common PCT combo is HCG (for testes jumpstarting) and a SERM like nolvadex or clomid or both (to get the hypoyhalamus to release GrH and the pituitary to release LH). Doses for the HCG can range from 350ius EOD to 2000ius EOD depending on who you ask, nolvadex at 40mg per day is good and higher doses arent proven to be more effective, clomid doses can range from 50mg per day up to 150mg per day but start on the lower end because some men report feeling crappy on clomid.
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evan johnson User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 02, 2019
Yes you are using the right compounds. Just make sure your clomid dosing is 100mg ed for the first 2 weeks and 50mg for another 2-3 weeks and your nolva is 20mg ed for the duration of your PCT
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Lav3ga User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 02, 2019
After a tren run it is always good to run a through PCT. my protocol is this.4 days after last test e shot start HCG. Run HCG at 1000 iu every day for ten days. On the 11th day stop the HCG and run Clomid at 50 mg a day, and Nolva at 40 mg a day. Keep the SERMS at that dosage for 2 weeks, and then drop the dose to 25 mg and 20 mg and run that for a week. For the fourth week run the Nolva at 10 mg and at the end of the fourth week drop all drugs.Good luck man
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Mike Jones User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 03, 2019
So first you should have ran the pct for at the minimum 30 days 21 days would hypothetically be ok but for tren since it’s so strong you should run a full 30 days. After you wait the length of your cycle that you’ve been on, the proper pct should have hcg from the beginning of your cycle at 250iu twice a week until your cycle is over and starting nolva/clomid then you should run the nolva/clomid at 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50mg a day
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Socaljuicer User profile Expert
Answered: Mar 03, 2019
A proper PCT for the cycle you described would be Nolva ( tamoxifen) at 40mg per day for weeks 1-2, then 20mg per day for weeks 3-5. Alternatively you could run Clomid (clomephine) at 100mg per day weeks 1-2, and 50mg per day in weeks 3-5. It’s not necessary to run both, but it won’t hurt either.
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J-Dawg User profile
Answered: Mar 03, 2019
I`m no expert…. But myself and my circle go by the golden rule “Go off cycle just as long as you were on cycle”, meaning basically if you just ran a 12 week cycle, at least take off for 12 weeks before running another one. (im thinking that`s after running your pct as well since its just as important as the anabolics)… So maybe if you just ran 4 weeks, go ahead and do your pct, and then crank it back up! That`s my two cents anyways…-Mad Skills
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michael vanacore User profile
Answered: Mar 03, 2019
rule of thumb is to usually be off the same amount of time you were on for not including pct. so if you were dping a 14 week cycle with trena and sust take at least 14weeks to br off everything and get your body back to normal then go on again. your body will not only respond better to your next cycle but your receptors will be fresh a swell.

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